Comments on: First Amendment, First Principles and Rush Limbaugh http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/28/first-amendment-first-principles-and-rush-limbaugh/ Firedoglake weblog Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:49:38 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: damagedone http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/28/first-amendment-first-principles-and-rush-limbaugh/#comment-1002718 damagedone Sat, 29 Sep 2007 00:49:44 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/09/28/first-amendment-first-principles-and-rush-limbaugh/#comment-1002718 <p><a href="#comment-1001660"><em>humboldtblue @ 106</em></a></p> <blockquote><p><a href="#comment-1001560"><em>damagedone @ 104</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>Congress has turned into a bunch of homophonec(s) - to coin a word.</p></blockquote> <p>Homophone is a word … it means two words that are spelled differently but sound the same…. air and heir</p></blockquote> <p>Thanks, I know. Going for a one-liner, there. Maybe I should have defined the word -that is ok at least in academia. But on the other hand if you have to explain attempts at humor - it sort of kills it. Trying to suggest Congress has a fear of words that sound a-like thus the Betray-us condemnation but probably no condemnation of Limbaugh. Maybe, homophonexia would be a better made-up word.</p> humboldtblue @ 106

damagedone @ 104

Congress has turned into a bunch of homophonec(s) – to coin a word.

Homophone is a word … it means two words that are spelled differently but sound the same…. air and heir

Thanks, I know. Going for a one-liner, there. Maybe I should have defined the word -that is ok at least in academia. But on the other hand if you have to explain attempts at humor – it sort of kills it. Trying to suggest Congress has a fear of words that sound a-like thus the Betray-us condemnation but probably no condemnation of Limbaugh. Maybe, homophonexia would be a better made-up word.

]]> By: shargash http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/28/first-amendment-first-principles-and-rush-limbaugh/#comment-1002064 shargash Fri, 28 Sep 2007 18:46:18 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/09/28/first-amendment-first-principles-and-rush-limbaugh/#comment-1002064 <p>There are no circumstances, ever, under which it is even remotely acceptable for the Congress to censure anyone for exercising their right of free speech. Individual Congresscritters can say whatever they want, personally. But using the official voice of the Congress is simply beyond the pale. It is representative of just how far down the path towards being a police state we’ve gone.</p> <p>This is the sort of thing the governements of Nazi Germany and Stalinist Russia did. It has no place in America.</p> There are no circumstances, ever, under which it is even remotely acceptable for the Congress to censure anyone for exercising their right of free speech. Individual Congresscritters can say whatever they want, personally. But using the official voice of the Congress is simply beyond the pale. It is representative of just how far down the path towards being a police state we’ve gone.

This is the sort of thing the governements of Nazi Germany and Stalinist Russia did. It has no place in America.

]]> By: helen kenney http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/28/first-amendment-first-principles-and-rush-limbaugh/#comment-1001819 helen kenney Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:10:13 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/09/28/first-amendment-first-principles-and-rush-limbaugh/#comment-1001819 <p>i don”t think it will make a difference, but it made me feel better. i sent an email senator feinstein and told her after her votes on the move-on business and the iran authorization she does not represent anything i stand for. i have been a democrat for over 40 years and my family has fought for this country since the war of 1812, just like thousands of other families.</p> i don”t think it will make a difference, but it made me feel better. i sent an email senator feinstein and told her after her votes on the move-on business and the iran authorization she does not represent anything i stand for. i have been a democrat for over 40 years and my family has fought for this country since the war of 1812, just like thousands of other families.

]]> By: Scarecrow http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/28/first-amendment-first-principles-and-rush-limbaugh/#comment-1001767 Scarecrow Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:53:24 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/09/28/first-amendment-first-principles-and-rush-limbaugh/#comment-1001767 <p><a href="#comment-1001400"><em>Judge Moonbox @ 102</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>I think that what you’re saying is that any government action against Free Speech is censorship; and I think that’s as illogical as saying that if it’s not the government suppressing speech, it isn’t censorship.</p> <p>Okay, only the government has the power to arrest. However, no serious person is talking about arresting anyone. Just John McCain who mangles Beach Boys hits.</p> <p>Which would you find scarier: the Cornyn resolution against MoveOn, or the Astroturf campaign against the Dixie Chicks using a report from a British leftist newspaper that the Country Music fans would have never heard of if not for Bushite opposition research?</p></blockquote> <p>This one completely baffles me, but I guess one response to a scarecrow is strawman arguments.</p> <p> When government censures speech, it has a chilling, detrimental effect on everyone’s speech, whether or not anyone goes to jail. </p> <p>As for non-governmental actions, nothing in the post condones bullying intimidation by others.</p> Judge Moonbox @ 102

I think that what you’re saying is that any government action against Free Speech is censorship; and I think that’s as illogical as saying that if it’s not the government suppressing speech, it isn’t censorship.

Okay, only the government has the power to arrest. However, no serious person is talking about arresting anyone. Just John McCain who mangles Beach Boys hits.

Which would you find scarier: the Cornyn resolution against MoveOn, or the Astroturf campaign against the Dixie Chicks using a report from a British leftist newspaper that the Country Music fans would have never heard of if not for Bushite opposition research?

This one completely baffles me, but I guess one response to a scarecrow is strawman arguments.

When government censures speech, it has a chilling, detrimental effect on everyone’s speech, whether or not anyone goes to jail.

As for non-governmental actions, nothing in the post condones bullying intimidation by others.

]]> By: Willem van Oranje http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/28/first-amendment-first-principles-and-rush-limbaugh/#comment-1001746 Willem van Oranje Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:48:29 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/09/28/first-amendment-first-principles-and-rush-limbaugh/#comment-1001746 <p>sorry, Pat Tillman (double L)</p> sorry, Pat Tillman (double L)

]]> By: Willem van Oranje http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/28/first-amendment-first-principles-and-rush-limbaugh/#comment-1001740 Willem van Oranje Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:47:41 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/09/28/first-amendment-first-principles-and-rush-limbaugh/#comment-1001740 <p>When discussing the “phony soldiers” comment from Limbaugh, please include Pat Tillman as on of those “phony soldiers”.</p> When discussing the “phony soldiers” comment from Limbaugh, please include Pat Tillman as on of those “phony soldiers”.

]]> By: JoyB http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/28/first-amendment-first-principles-and-rush-limbaugh/#comment-1001676 JoyB Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:26:11 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/09/28/first-amendment-first-principles-and-rush-limbaugh/#comment-1001676 <p><a href="#comment-1001140"><em>Scarecrow @ 17</em></a></p> <blockquote><p><a href="#comment-1001138"><em>JoyB @ 15</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>Wonderful post, Scarecrow. THANK you. Dead on right about Congress, and their duty to defend free speech. Thank you also for mentioning Jon Soltz of <a href="http://www.votevets.org/">www.votevets.org</a>.</p></blockquote> <p>If you want to support Soltz challenge, check out the link to General Wesley Clark — there’s a petition/letter you can send.</p></blockquote> <p>Thank you!</p> Scarecrow @ 17

JoyB @ 15

Wonderful post, Scarecrow. THANK you. Dead on right about Congress, and their duty to defend free speech. Thank you also for mentioning Jon Soltz of http://www.votevets.org.

If you want to support Soltz challenge, check out the link to General Wesley Clark — there’s a petition/letter you can send.

Thank you!

]]> By: humboldtblue http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/28/first-amendment-first-principles-and-rush-limbaugh/#comment-1001660 humboldtblue Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:19:48 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/09/28/first-amendment-first-principles-and-rush-limbaugh/#comment-1001660 <p><a href="#comment-1001560"><em>damagedone @ 104</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>Congress has turned into a bunch of homophonec(s) - to coin a word.</p></blockquote> <p>Homophone is a word … it means two words that are spelled differently but sound the same…. air and heir</p> damagedone @ 104

Congress has turned into a bunch of homophonec(s) – to coin a word.

Homophone is a word … it means two words that are spelled differently but sound the same…. air and heir

]]> By: humboldtblue http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/28/first-amendment-first-principles-and-rush-limbaugh/#comment-1001658 humboldtblue Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:18:28 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/09/28/first-amendment-first-principles-and-rush-limbaugh/#comment-1001658 <p><a href="#comment-1001143"><em>raven @ 20</em></a></p> <blockquote><p><a href="#comment-1001139"><em>Scarecrow @ 16</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>raven — remember well; you might want to remind folks about “article 15.”</p> <p>Good morning everyone.</p></blockquote> <p>Sorry, “Non-Judicial Punishment” sort of like a misdemeanor. In the Navy and Marines they call it “Captains Mast”. You could get them for all kinds of stuff, like puffing a bit (wink wink).</p></blockquote> <p>I got two of those while in the Air Force … Nothing like a few drunken brawls to get the command in a tizzy … sheesh it was 1988, can’t a 21-year old get in a few drunken brawls every now and then?</p> raven @ 20

Scarecrow @ 16

raven — remember well; you might want to remind folks about “article 15.”

Good morning everyone.

Sorry, “Non-Judicial Punishment” sort of like a misdemeanor. In the Navy and Marines they call it “Captains Mast”. You could get them for all kinds of stuff, like puffing a bit (wink wink).

I got two of those while in the Air Force … Nothing like a few drunken brawls to get the command in a tizzy … sheesh it was 1988, can’t a 21-year old get in a few drunken brawls every now and then?

]]> By: damagedone http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/28/first-amendment-first-principles-and-rush-limbaugh/#comment-1001560 damagedone Fri, 28 Sep 2007 15:27:44 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/09/28/first-amendment-first-principles-and-rush-limbaugh/#comment-1001560 <p>Congress has turned into a bunch of homophonec(s) - to coin a word.</p> Congress has turned into a bunch of homophonec(s) – to coin a word.

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