Late Late Nite FDL: I Don’t Give a Damn About My Bad ReputationBy: TRex Wednesday September 26, 2007 10:24 pm |
Tucker Carlson apparently called FDL a bunch of “haters” tonight. Since he is the second most unwatched man in cable news (Glenn Beck’s ratings are the lowest), I couldn’t find a direct quote anywhere, cos I guess nobody saw it.
Hey, Tucker, next time you want to throw rocks at us, go do it when you’re a guest on a show that people actually watch (like Olbermann). That way we’ll be sure not to miss it.
Kthxbai!
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TREXXX!!!
TREX!
Zed?
it’s TRex trivia night downstairs…
Hey TRex, dont go downstairs. We were not talking about you.
Dang, TRex, I thought we were gonna bust 500…!!!
But we don’t hate everyone.
TRex!
punaise @ 4
There is nothing trival about TRex.
Oh lordy. ‘Haters’. Child, please.
cutest dog
Or known as Miss Dog…
We only hate stupid boys who’s rich daddies make sure they get high paying jobs in cable teevee making fools of themselves.
Gee, Tucker, you’re so hip. Are we drinkin’ the haterade?
Tucker’s all jealous of O’Lielly and the attention he’s gotten, so he decided to jump on the bandwagon.
marymccurnin @ 12
Tucker? Geez, no one listens to that gasbag. He used up his relevancy years ago.
Suzanne @ 16
He was relevant?
The entire male white-wing of the Republican Party are behaving like Michael Douglass in Falling Down.
They are having a bad day and no one understands them.
The more the heat gets turned up the quicker these marshmallows melt.
-GSD
Tucker was just stealing one from the Gooper playbook. Accuse others of being (hater in this case) something that you are actually guilty of.
I don’t hate Tucker. Only watched him long enough to name him The Angry Little Shrew and still I think his bow ties were clip-ons. Now the sound of his voice sends me scrambling for the remote/change channels instantly.
marymccurnin @ 17
Yeah, when he was on that dance show.
Alicia @ 10
Seriously.
Makes me want to write him an email:
Dear Tucker-
You don’t know the half of it, bitch.
Lurrrrrrve,
TRex
no one knows the name of suzanne’s dog?
lovely letter T
Eureka Springs @ 19
Whose voice do you think is higher, his or Hannity’s?
GSD @ 18
Then why is the democratic party fellating the republican party?
was downstairs told?
TexBetsy @ 22
I do but I am not telling.
Tucker can’t even keep his lefty blogger talking points in order. Talk about irrelevant.
I must be delusional. I think the FDL crowd is the most humane, loving online group I’ve come across.
Marilyn in TX email me and we’ll add you to the list. You are our 3rd from SA and #12 or #13. Tex Betsy at g mail dot com
Tokin.
TRex @ 21
come visit us here, Tucker, if you’re looking for the hateration!
Loo Hoo. @ 31
Token.
hee, hee, hee.
a little toady in the shadow of a line of authoritarians with a microphone and a signal….
and the line stretches back to Goebbels….
and the bow-tied toady projects “haters”….
in a muffled croak.
On the rest of the pond, life goes on as usual.
TRex @ 24
Chris Matthews.
TJ @ 29
Yes but you are a lovely friend and NOT a right wing idiotic racist talk show host.
I dare Tucker Carlson to invite TRex on his show.
I would HATE to miss that.
Oh, I was thinking Tokin as in Tokin’!
TRex @ 24
I wouldn’t know Hannity’s or his sidekicks voice. I never ever watch FOX, it’s blocked from my television.
I was going to give her credit. Teachers can’t spell.
Though I will admit to being foul-mouthed ;-)
Last Suzanne trivia from me. How old is Suzanne’s youngest child.
Alicia @ 32
Not only is he a shrew he is a chickensh*t, too.
Oh wait. Was that hateful? Should I censure myself a little more?
prick
/s
Loo Hoo. @ 38
No, as in too small to be a real dog, he is a token representation of a dog.
Mary,
Because the Dems are hoplessly corrupt too. But they aren’t flaming out they are just fading away.
-GSD
Chris Matthews.
“Tweet”
neurophius @ 37
OHMYGOD!!
I would be in HEAVEEEEEN!!
I know just the outfit.
marymccurnin @ 43
Oh yes, otherwise you will incur the pique!
Loo Hoo. @ 38
Hey, no bogartin’!!! ;-)
Suzanne @ 45
I always think of him as the little ‘token’ dog in Monopoly…
Forgot to say evening all downstairs – pardon the rudeness: evening pups!
Read Patrick Graham’s articles today. Am now exponentially better informed about Iraq dynamics…. (also have a wee crush on Patrick).
Thanx again TRex!
kirk murphy @ 44
Yeah, dickhead. What the fuck do you think this is, a goddamn ashram?
SunnyNobility @ 52
Christ, Chris Matthews, is that you?
-GSD
‘Haters’?
Better that, than a bottom-rated undulator.
;>)
hi hi hi hi hi hi hi hi!
Just got home from work ‘n read both TRex posts, no time to go thru the comments. Miss anything good?
Dear Senator Feinstein,
What the hell is wrong with you??!!! This is not remotely the performance I expected from you when I voted for you, and frankly I wasn’t expecting all that much.
You’re -so- fired.
Sincerely,
Your (Alleged) Constituent Hmmm.
newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 56
There was a quiz and tomorrow we will get our grades.
*pointedly says nothing*
*looks innocent*
evening sunny
Hey NDFG!
marymccurnin @ 60
Failers will be shot.
TRex @ 62
Nah, my injections aren’t for another month.
TRex @ 62
metaphorically, of course
“Failers will be shot.”
Because we HATE failers!
marymccurnin @ 60
yikes!
neurophius @ 65
Especially those who fail on TV dance shows.
darkblack @ 55
That’s what I’m talking about! Shake it like a Polaroid!
can we do trivia about each other suzanne?
GSD @ 54
707, yep!
Suzanne @ 45
One hookah makes you larger, one hookah makes you small? *G*
Bet he don’t inhale . . . ;-)
TexBetsy @ 61
Hi TEx! hope life is boring at the moment (talking totally from my experience … as a single mom w teens, a boring day was good, ie no crisis *g*)
Hey, is that Mickey Kaus playing the Warner’s exec in this Joan Jett video? I swear it is.
neurophius @ 67
I hate those ‘reality’ shows…!!!
Does anyone have a link to the Bush Family pool boy story?
-GSD
Alicia @ 68
I’ll put the first quarter in for him.
;>)
darkblack @ 55
Michelle’s coffin-nail is a nice touch, db!
GSD @ 74
http://www.crooksandliars.com/…..d-all-day/
She’s so trashy.
GSD @ 74
might have been salon.com – I linked to it the other day. Will go check.
pool boy
FYI, I’m starting my own news ninja website. Will have all the content from here, but also posts and room for comments.
TexBetsy @ 81
cool!
Alicia @ 77
I tried to capture a glamourous pose that those of us with a yen to musically entertain have espied in many a fine establishment.
;>)
darkblack @ 76
That sure takes me back!
darkblack @ 84
instead of her usual ho in a cheerleader outfit?
Suzanne @ 86
Gimme an L….Gimme a detainment camp…..
Hoo-rah!
-GSD
darkblack @ 84
A fashion accessory that no skank worth her Aqua-Net would be caught dead without!
Niters all you late late nite rascals – sweet mr.brat just popped in to remind me Jon Stewart and Colbert are on deck – see you dynamos later. poof -
TexBetsy & Punaise,
Thanks.
-GSD
Bush is looting the remaining goods out of the house and he’s getting ready to torch the frigging place.
Party’s over.
g’nite npb
monarch on
night npb
kirk murphy @ 90
flutter by any time
Nite, NPB! Jon’s on fire…!!!
It must be getting late. My ability to think of anything interesting to say has disappeared.
Good nite all!
Handcuffed kids steal U.S. border agent car
via The Head-On Radio Network
http://headonradionetwork.com/…..agent-car/
MONTERREY, Mexico (Reuters) – Three Mexican minors detained in California on suspicion of smuggling drugs stole a U.S. Border Patrol car while still wearing handcuffs and drove it back across the border to Mexico. Police in the Mexican border city of Mexicali said on Tuesday the three boys had been driving a pick-up truck on a […]
Night all.
-GSD
lol @ BREAKING: Dems WANT to lose 2008
punaise @ 93
quit mothing around
Nite, Mary and GSD!!!
night mary
waving to the leaving pups
Tucker Carlson – what a maroon!!!!!!!!
night, all!
g’nite mary – good reams.
Suzanne @ 99
can’t her pillar decide?
Suzanne @ 86
Or her luxurious sleepwear.
;>)
Goodnight, FDL
Alicia @ 105
Nite, Alicia!!!
That made me laugh louder than anything else has all day.
darkblack @ 108
Hah, won’t go there…! Nite, DB!!!
Tucker using “haters” reminds me of a story a friend of mine used to tell, about how he’d see white kids driving their parents’ beemers and cranking gangsta rap, and scream at them, “You are The Man!”
(oh dear)
Try again, Kirk:
good dreams
sorry about that…
kirk murphy @ 112
Thought you were wishing her copy paper.
I meet such innnteresting people.
for Chysalsis’ sake.
Time for me to call it a night. Enjoyed hanging out with you all.
kirk murphy @ 113
Here I thought Kirk was getting kinky.
Oh, and
P.S. You guys are freaking me out a little with the TRex trivia thing.
But for the record, my major was English (of course!) and my favorite Target is not Ann Althouse. It stopped being fun with her when I realized that there really is something, like, psychologically wrong with her. Besides teh stupid, I mean.
Same with Malkin. Ultimately, her reach is really limited beyond that small circle of some of the people who want to be fooled all the time. She’s beneath me, now. Whenever I go after her, I feel like I’m kicking a cripple.
Sweet dreams, Betsy. I may be joining you.
Well, Pt. III of ‘The War’ is on, I shall bid ya’ll a fond adieu! Aloha Oe!!! *g*
TRex @ 110
Yeah, that is funny.
so who is your favorite target?
TJ @ 119
Bed ain’t big enough. Should I pull out the sofa bed?
didn’t mean to creep ya out trex (sorry big guy)
kirk murphy @ 116
you’d better larvae to the experts
night CT
TexBetsy @ 124
The floor is better for my back ;-)
TRex @ 119
think of it as institutional knowledge
TexBetsy @ 122
Teh Preznint hisself.
Everybody else is just…cocktails.
Sleep well pups….
off to cuddle with the felines….
thanks for the joy of joining y’all….
(…chysalis…another victim of CTFS)
can’t type for shit
been a while since you have done a boosh post trex
Suzanne @ 131
Nuh uh. Didn’t I just do one with Ahmadinejad?
Read thru a lot of topics here at FDL, and elsewhere today trying to catch up from not reading much at all since Sunday night.
Here at FDL, some great threads and posits.
This one, yet another good one.
I smell MSNBC leaning left, all the way.
What I HOPE to be a trend towards phreakin sanity across the board as the pendulum swings from Radical Right Loon back to somewhere to middle of the road duck walking quackery but at least for the masses . .
In Wishful Thinking There MIGHT Be A Withdrawl From Teh Penetration, Before A Nuked Sands Of Glass Harbinger Of End Times, Here’s A Good Read We Can All Paganly Pray 4
Suzanne @ 132
Didn’t he say something stupid today that might be worth mocking?
KO mentioned it but I wasn’t paying attention.
TRex @ 130
Now the mighty Trex interviewing the preznit would be must-see-tv.
TRex @ 59
dammit
TRex @ 133
that was boosh and… i’m talking just boosh
Pffffft. I do not think that I could find any words. I think I would just grab something heavy and club him like a baby seal.
MMMMM…Bitch slapped by TC…MMMMM…
Name (required) @ 140
Yes, I feel that I shall perish if he does it again. Oh, fie! I’m nearly dead already just thinking about it.
TRex @ 138
Aw, comeon, I know you’d like to see him lose his shit with a few reasoned and directed questions :)
What could you ask him that he wouldn’t lie about? He’s so stupid, he’s virtually impenetrable, anyway.
“Well, heh heh heh, yer entahtled tuh yer opinion, young man, but yer wrawng.”
And that’s when I would be forced to knee him in the groin.
Name (required) @ 140
I think I’d actually watch TC for that one, lolz.
Big Dawg does good on the MoveOn faux scandal.
I’m off to bed, folks. g’nite
Now that Suzanne is gone, do we get to run amok?
I’m watching a replay of the presidential debate. Did you notice that in the “Lightning round,” Biden was offered an easy opportunity to take a cheap shot at MoveOn.org, and he refused to do it. He didn’t praise them, but he didn’t diss them, either.
Bob in HI
hasta manana Suzanne
TRex @ 143
Na, pointed direct questions calling his lies. He wouldn’t be able to take a sustained line of questioning. That’s probably why Nancy took the peach off the table.
I think that’s it for me, too, kids.
Good night!
*crickets*
Just a quick visit, folks. Was it fdl BillO was referring to on the radio this morning, when he accused another “wacko lefty blog of smearing me”? I was running around in a car with an awful AM radio, and was on the phone with ET, Jr, so didn’t quite hear it all.
Great work, TRex.
‘Night, TRex. If you’re looking for mock-worthy material, you might want to check out the question submissions for the Republican YouTube debate. Lots of them are fine, of course, and others are clearly not from Republicans, but there are also a fine selection of wingnuts, too. (I haven’t listened to a lot of them, but I was quite fond of one asking when the government is going to spend money on Muricans, instead of it going to foreign aid and Muslims and Hispanics…)
ET – perhaps this:
neurophius @ 147
wouldn’t be the first time I trashed this place…
Ed*ard Teller @ 153
***
Hi, ET: If memory serves me, Bill was accusing Media Matters of the “smear.” However, FDL was targeted tonight by the inimitable Tucker Carlson on his show…for being “haters”.
Ed*ard Teller @ 156
I’d like to run a mock
trial of W at the Hague….as prelude to the real deal
punaise @ 155
I was mostly wondering if he’d actually had the guts to name this place yet. I suppose not, as the more he directs people here, the more his viewers/listeners might question his omniscience. Or develop a sense of humor, which will get them to start seeing/hearing him as the comedy I’ve grown to know. He isn’t always funny, though. duh…
punaise @ 158
***
Official ice cream flavors of the event…Impeach Mint, and Haguen-dazs.
CD @ 160
Iol, Haguen-dazs! I’ll take both and in that order.
TPM Muckraker has just posted another article on Don Young. Taxpayers for Common Sense has filed a complaint with the House Committee on Standards of Conduct on Don Young’s changes of Federal Highway legislation for FY 2006, back when he had power and wasn’t having to pay his attorneys $250,000 a month. Their complaint is viewable, and is more definitive, though it has no more standing before the committee, than the complaint Young challenger Diane Benson made on September 17. My comment is at the bottom of the thread…
Ed*ard Teller @ 162
Am I reading that correctly? They are politicizing who brings charges?
tw3k,
I’m not sure who you mean by “they.” Taxpayers for Common Sense?
Ed*ard Teller @ 164
Oops, sorry. Diane Benson and Jake Metcalfe. Just trying to take in your comment without the proper background.
I’ve been feeling intellectually lazy lately. I can only take so much in without tuning out for a bit.
twȝk @ 165
Laura McGann – who has done sterling work on investigating Don Young – is knowledgeable enough to get the point. Weird that Metcalfe is taking out ads in all the Young articles there, when he discouraged people from even running against Young last year. And, the Alaska Dem primary is still ten months away.
I always think of my step father when I see the pogo site. He had a bunch of the old pogo comic books.
Sorry my browser is freaking out with a weeks worth of windows open.
I leave you with this:
Pat Metheny – Finding and Believing
Part 1
Part 2
So Young and Benson are competing on bring charges?
Ug, I think my synapses are misfiring. I’m hitting the hay too.
twȝk @ 168
I used to have a bunch of Pogo books. As an undergraduate, I once wrote a paper on why Pogo was funny– and got an A on it! Good thing I had a sympathetic teacher!
Bob in HI
twȝk @ 171
Who’s on first?…
No. Don Young is our sole congressperson. He’s a crook, with more ties to Jack Abramoff and Bill Allen – the ex-head of the now defunct VECO – than the spiders in those last two’s prison cells.
Benson ran against Young last year, and came closer than anyone has in 20 years on about 10% of the money Young spent. In 2006, Jake Metcalfe, Benson’s opponent in next year’s Dem Primary, was chairman of the Alaska Democratic Party. He refused to support her candidacy until the last few weeks, and then the party gave less than $10,000. He now claims that he and Rahm Emanuel didn’t think she was worth ANY support.
Benson filed an ethics complaint against Young over a week ago. Taxpayers for Common sense filed theirs this past Monday. I commented on the irony of Metcalfe’s “JAKE2008″ ad on the same page as McGann’s article which didn’t mention Benson’s earlier complaint, which Metcalfe has since dissed.
It’s going to be a long primary campaign.
You can donate to Diane Benson here.
punaise @ 145
Thanks. Very good stuff!
wigwam @ 175
Guy can talk, can’t he? I voted for Chelsea…
wigwam @ 175
nice clip. was he asked why hillary voted to condemn moveon?
1,610 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND..
Latenite Firepup Patriots:
Anyone see the New Hampshire thing…I only got ta read the liveblog commentary, sounded ta me like Edwards kicked ass. Why is the corporate media tryin’ ta give Mrs. Clinton the nomination…I don’t think she’s gunna win the Iowa caucuses. I live in western WI and am a native Minnesotan…Iowa is no gimmee for the wicked witch and those Hawkeyes HATE liars and triangulators, Edwards is gunna wipe the floor in the barn with her Iraq stance.
KEEP THE FAITH AND TAKE CARE OF EACH OTHER!!
neurophius @ 147
Nice try.
Oh I did it again, fell asleep, missed everything~!
Good morning everyone.
howdy lurking mod and NFt!
and here i thought it was just me and my insomnia hanging out here. *g*
Morning. Wherezza cawfee? Oh, right. I haven’t made it yet.
morning Margot!
glad to know i can stop thinking i should be asleep. much more fun to go make some coffee and start my day…
An early good morning to Firepups!
It’s not very cool this morning in central Jersey, with very high humidity. We’re having a bit more summer this week. Rain is in the forecast for later today, tonight, and tomorrow.
Yesterday was another bad day, with Dems in Congress not standing up for progressive values. I try to remember what’s been said often here at the ‘Lake: “it’s a marathon, not a sprint,” and not get too discouraged, but days like yesterday make you want smack a few folks upside the head [I’ll start with my own senators Lautenberg (NJ-Likkud) and Menendez (NJ-”I owe Lautenberg for voting with me for the Military Commissions Act when I had to look tough in my Senate race last year”) who both voted for the dreadful Kyl-Lieberman amendment]. Part of my frustration is that I’ve been trying to make my voice heard, calling their offices to voice my opinions.
I’ve got a big pot of coffee made. I’m going out for bagels this morning. Be back in a jiffy!
Work for peace, every day.
nj, will you pick me up an onion one? I have homemade fig preserves and cream cheese. It probably sounds gross, but it’s delicious.
Good morning Selise!
Lindy, that whole breakfast sounds great, especially the homemade fig preserves.
Did somebody say marathon not sprint?
Good morning pups!
Margot @ 186
Morning, Margot. It is delicious. This was my first ever batch of preserves…and they’re nearly gone. Husband took half back to New Orleans with him.
while i was having trouble sleeping, i went and uploaded the audio to another hearing;
To examine proposed budget estimates for fiscal year 2008 for the President’s supplemental request for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Senate Appropriations Committee – Sept 26, 2007
Hearing chaired by Robert C. Byrd, U.S. Senator, D-WV
Witnesses:
Peter Pace, Joint Chiefs of Staff
Robert M. Gates, Secretary, Department of Defense
John D. Negroponte, Deputy Secretary, Department of State
** special guest appearances by the members of code pink *g*
Lindy,
Only thing I ever preserved was mulberries.
What sour little things they are! I am positive the ratio of sugar to mulberries was 10 cups to 1. Not worth it.
Margot @ 190
LOL! We used to have a mulberry tree in our front yard when I was a small child. Purple feet.
As for the figs, I used less sugar than the recipe called for, and simmered them for 6-7 hours. Exquisite!
Good morning, just checking in from Fabulous Blue Ridge GA. Mixed clouds, glorious full moon, 60 degrees and Rain in the forecast.
Got a backlog of paperwork so ya’ll play nice till Marion in Savannah gets here.
Morning, all!
Egregious, wasn’t it you who first said “marathon, not a sprint”? It’s good to remember when the frustration level runs high.
Bagels, we’ve got poppy, sesame, oat bran, marble, cinnamon raisin, plain, pumpernickel, everything,…oh, look, there’s an onion bagel for Lindy. May I try some of the fig preserves? Sounds yummy!
Be good to one another.
njprogressive @ 193
Help yourself! I can make more next season, assuming we’re still around. And thanks for the bagel :)
just finished updating this week’s congressional hearing list… a couple of hearings postponed, and a couple added.
….
lindy – someday will you post your fig preserves recipe? sounds yummy!
This
is good news. The Jena 6 prosecutor was convinced by Gov. Blanco
selise @ 195
Of course, though there’s not much recipe to it. Just figs and sugar and lots of simmering.
Great! Final comment on this thread is a food/recipe thing. People are being killed, wounded, tortured, threatened with US/Israel bombing or attack. But, you’re having a chatline about “zip”. That’s the problem, folks. Real fathers, mothers and children are dying, starving, orphaned, etc. because of the actions of people (so-called) “serving” in your name. But, all you do is groan, gripe and wring your hands, and nothing changes.
There’s only one party in DC. It’s called the War Party (Rep/Dem – no diff.).
Anywhere else in the world – and I’ve lived, worked, traveled all over – such a “government” would have been dragged into the street and spat upon, kicked, strung up, whatever…
You may argue that this is the USA and it’s none of my business. Sadly, the USA’s policies/actions impact on every living human, worldwide – currently, it seems, for ill rather than better.
For the world’s sake, please get off your cushy asses and do something to repair your government and the disgusting image you convey to people who share this earth with you.
Thank you.
Lindy @ 197
that sounds like my granny’s brownie recipe – “bake until done”
that’s actually what she wrote down when she shared her recipe.
works if you know what you’re doing…. *g*
OT, or yesterday’s T:
Good morning from a BlueState where the sun is not yet up, and the tea not yet drunk, but the wheels are turning.
A way to turn around yesterday’s Hans V.S. inaction? I had squirreled this away for politically rainy (well, more like dark and stormy) day. If anyone can call these to the attention of a lawyer (Christy, Looseheadprop?) who might advise us….
from the Muck:
A suggestion from a Jane that I summarize:
Von Spakovsky is a member of the Tennessee and Georgia Bars. That they required him to explain how Von Spakovsky justifies the signature of Shelton Bradshaw days after Bradshaw left on the letter contrary to DOJ policy.
“it might be worthwhile.”
And now with the shenanigans about his article, there is even more reason to call him to the attention of his bar.
The disciplinary agencies for these states are:
GEORGIA
William P. Smith, III.
General Counsel
State Bar of Georgia
104 Marietta Street, NW
Suite 100
Atlanta, GA 30303
404/527-8720
FAX: 404/527-8744
Website: http://www.gabar.org
TENNESSEE
Lance B. Bracy
Chief Disciplinary Counsel
Board of Professional Responsibility
of the Supreme Court of Tennessee
The Oaks Tower, Suite 730
1101 Kermit Drive
Nashville, TN 37217
615/361-7500
800/486-5714
FAX: 615/367-2480
Website: http://www.tbpr.org
http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/ar…..6.php#more
GGwizz @ 198
Yes, people are dying. The living still have to eat, and I, for one, cannot maintain the level of stress you think I should be maintaining 24-7. I’m also working my tail off to see that these thugs are kicked out. What are you doing?
GGwizz @ 198 –
as a member of the human race, of course it’s your business too.
… just an fyi, do you know what each of us has done (the getting off our asses part)? i’m sorta thinking the answer is “no”.
and no matter what we’ve done when we’re away from the keyboard, it doesn’t stop us from being human and enjoying sharing the little joys of life.
but if you’ve got something specific for me to do right now, i’m all eyes.
selise @ 189
It was show stopping experience!
.
Good Morning pups!
must keep telling self it is a marathon and not a sprint (can I still wear my spikes?)
BlueStateRedHead @ 200 –
that’s an idea! will you bring it up with christy this morning? she may know someone in the TN or GA bar.
Elliott @ 203 –
morning! do you know who tom harkin was yelling at (at about 1:30 into the hearing) when he said something like “i don’t need any lecture from you” ?? i couldn’t figure that out… was it a member of the committee or one of the protesters?
selise @ 205
No I don’t, sorry.
“(Rep/Dem – no diff.).”
Yes, yes, right, right, it’s deja vu all over again, the voice of the Bush = Gore flat-earthers. Who apparently still can’t tell Bush from Gore.
Sort of like holocaust deniers, but with more blood on their hands.
(Which they so dislike one mentioning.)
1,610 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND..
Early Mornin’ Firepup Patriots:
I’ll re-ask a question from up stream: Anyone catch the New Hampshire debate…I read the blog commentaries from the live blog and got the impression thaqt Edwards kicked ass.
Why does the corporate media insiste on givin Mrs. Clinton the nomination…I live in western WI and am a native Minnesoatan and I don’t think she’s gunna win the Iowa caucuses…Edwards should wipe the barn floor with her vote on Iraq2 and her triangulating war with Iran.
KEEP THE FAITH ALL THEY GOT IS OUR MONEY!!!
Good morning, pups. The NYT has Collins and Cohen today: Collins on Democrats not going to Florida. Mr. Cohen is in Sweden and points out that of all the scandals surrounding the Iraq war our failure to do anything to help Iraqi refugees stands out for its moral bankruptcy.
http://mgpaquin.wordpress.com/
Coffee and tea are ready, and I’ve got a selection of bagels and cream cheese. I’m going to toddle off and get some of that tea… Have a good day.
NorskeFlamethrower @ 208 –
i listened to the first part. can’t say i thought anyone kicked ass, but then i’m not a big fan of any of them (except maybe kucinich).
clinton freaked me out (more than usual) with her responses to questions on iran and israel. i didn’t record it, but i expect/hope the video will be posted. maybe at archive.org? so you can judge for yourself.
No Blood for Hubris @ 207
i think it’s up to us to make sure there IS a difference. if the difference is small enough that some people can’t see it… well then, some of the blame is on those who make it hard to have big differences.
plenty of blood to go around.
Haters is the new republican tag for anyone who disagrees with them.
Sorry, I don’t mean to be antagonistic or smartass, and I do appreciate the overall thrust – and individual/collective efforts of FDL folks. I have been a longtime lurker on and early image contributor to FDL. As (I hope) a sincerely concerned and compassionate “world citizen”, I get rather exasperated at what appears to me through various blogs a lot of talk-not-walk activity by those members of U.S. society who appear to share my fundamental viewpoint. I can’t do much to implement the efforts that I urge because I’m not a citizen of your country. I do recognize and salute the efforts that people like you are making, every waking moment. I love and applaud FDL and its denizens, but I still lament the lack of effective action to realize the goals that I think you (and I) aspire toward. My country is pretty smart but far from perfect and I am relatively lazy in working to help fix what I perceive to be its faults, so I ain’t no paragon of activism. I guess what I’m trying to do is encourage engaged, concerned, “real” American citizens to be less “lamenting” and more “fomenting”. Please excuse my impudence, and please keep up your efforts in a cruoial cause. Peace.
Ooops – “crucial”
NorskeFlamethrower @ 208
Why, Norske (hey, I’ve got a nyckelharpa and I’m going to use it!!)? Well, I think that they are handing it to her because she’s beatable. There are huge numbers of people in this country who hate her guts – choose your reason: she’s female, she’s Bill Clinton’s wife, she’s Bill Clinton’s wife and did NOT leave him over Monica Lewinsky, She’s a woman who has worked all of her life, she’s a nasty person….take your pick. I’m of the opinion that no matter what happens, even if the party elders come to her and beg her to step down so that a Democrat can get elected (and bring the rest with him), because she’s got the big war chest, she is going to be a king maker for sure. But that is just my two cents.
(returning to your regularly scheduled programming)
FYI 1.4127 dollars = 1 euro this morning’s quote. It has been at record levels this last week.
1 USD = 1.00002 CAD
Arnie @ 216
heckuva job, Bushie
Mornin’ all!
GGwizz @ 213 –
no need to apologize (although i appreciate your kind comments). we’re all pretty frustrated by events, and the temptation to lash out is a real one i think we all can relate to.
i hope you will continue to comment (no need to just lurk)… it helps motivate me to be reminded that there are people outside the usa counting on us and who are wishing us well (and wishing we’d take more action *g*).
just to help put things in perspective, i know some of the commenters here have been very active off-line… including everything from going door to door in support of anti-war politicians to getting tear gassed, pepper sprayed and threatened with loaded automatic weapons… right now, because of some personal stuff, i can’t do much of that… but i hope to get back to it.
mostly though, i think people are doing what they can – and trying to figure out how to do more. no saints here, but we try to encourage eachother and help eachother in our understanding and in our action.
and sometimes we even trade recipes. *g*
Mornings here at the ‘Lake are a time for gathering strength for the day ahead, both in what we do collectively at the suggestion of the front pagers and our peers here on the comment threads, and in our own lives.
Marion in Savannah brings us links to the NY Times op-ed columnists, and several of us bring virtual breakfast, weather reports, and links to interesting things we’ve read or seen or heard. The kindness and encouragement for the challenges we face as citizens and in our own lives are treasured support.
My thanks to all of the early morning folk here at the ‘Lake. You inspire me, you console me, you make me laugh out loud, and you give me hope.
U.S. troops open fire on Afghan civilians
Anyone watching Morning Joe? Russert was on. I have never hated Timmy as much as some others. But, that might have just changed. He was positively gleeful over the fact that the top 3 dems all said they’d stay in Iraq. Giddy, smiling from ear to ear. Said ‘you could imagine the cold water being poured over all the dems across the nation who elected these people to end the war’. Ha Ha Ha.
Neverending war…so amusing.
Myanmar soldiers fire weapons into crowd
Norske, I thought Edwards did very well, indeed! Obama did little to distinguish himself, a very mediocre outing on his part, IMO. HRC laughed a lot, guess it is the new Hillary. She refused to reply to several questions by saying, “I am not going to answer that question”.
GGwizz, wow that’s a pretty harsh indictment of the community. You might be comforted to know there is a lot more going on than can be put onthread.
We can come and gripe here, regain our courage, and head back out into the world to fight another day. Why would those necessarily be mutually exclusive? We are one of the most politically active communities among progressive blogs. My point is that not all of this is highly visible.
solai @ 223
he actually said that, about the cold water?
And giddy, his portfolio must be heavy in war stocks, GeeE.
There was a graph in a local paper showing the exchange rate (per euro) since the euro was established. Up to 2000 showed steady gains favoring the dollar (declining graph from 1.15 to 0.82 $/€). After was a steady decline in the dollars value until 2003 and the rate became more rapid until todays 1.40 plus. The graph was in El Pais last week, Friday or Saturday. I don’t know if it would be available on the net. The slopes sure indicated the effects of administration change on world money markets, contemporaneously also with the price of oil/bbl.
I think Russert misqouted Clinton on torture. I remember him saying that there was a clause in the Geneva Convention that allowed for some circumstance where time was vital. That’s a whole different approach than what we’re doing.
twolf1 (#222, #224)
Will we see similar headlines from the USA one day?
solai @ 229
I don’t believe there are any such exemptions.
Elliott @ 227
solai @ 223
as much as i don’t like russert, i think he did us a big favor last night by making the candidates answer the question. now we know and can put pressure on them to change their position.
nothing was served by allowing them to have one policy and pretend to have another.
selise @ 220
1. Accept invite to “pick yer own mushrooms” from dairy farmer who hates the damn things in his field, pile lotsa butter in the pan, activate toaster meanwhile, and gently shuffle those babies around until a black sauce is generated. You know the rest.
2. LuvYa, Selise, and thanks for the very appropriate and thoughtful response (let-off). I AM aware of the many and varied activities and concerns of many FDL and many US people, but I am constantly annoyed at the ineffectual nature of those efforts (thanks to the HoJos et al of your sphere) I don’t envy your struggle, but it’s vital.
Gotta run, pups!
Be kind to one another.
Work for peace, every day.
solai @ 232
Yes, he actually used the ‘cold water’ expression. And smiled. Ear to ear.
Elliott@230
We have before, I see no reason we won’t again. Especially when you consider that the events in the past were frightened National Guard, now we have hardened Mercenaries who will most likely be doing the shooting. Taken with the current attitude towards dissent and freedom of speech and peaceful assembly, one had best indeed “watch what they say and watch what they do”. The repercussions could be fatal whether from a Taser or a bullet…
GGwizz @ 234 –
1. oh, for a friendly nearby dairy. yummy!
2. i think events in congress these last few months have been an unpleasant reality check. things are much worse than i was thinking (silly me – i thought we might have an opposition party if the Ds could get the marjority in congress).
i have no idea if we can prevent an attack on iran, or even how we might go about it. but it’s too important not to try.
… gotta go make more coffee… too many hours spent awake worrying about the state of the world.
GGwizz
Thanks for your words of encouragement. It always motivates us to have armchair critics in other countries tell us that we are being ineffectual. Your insights are inspiring. Anything else we might be missing?
egregious @ 226
Hi, EG
Didn’t set out to antagonize, rather help energize.
Your points are well taken, and the whole reason for my comments is based on my respect (if not shock’n’awe) for the fundamental principles and people of FDL. So, tonight (NZ-time) I guess I must’ve come to gripe. You all still shock and awe me.
Luv,
GG
“First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.”
I think we are at “then they fight you”. A good thing.
egregious @ 239
hey egr – to cut GGwizz some slack here… haven’t we also been frustated by the lack of results for our efforts? i think we’re all feeling the pressure… but that doesn’t mean we’re not all on the same side.
Kathleen @ 241
yeah. i just didn’t realize that “they” were going to be most of the democrats in congress. :(
Selise, you are right of course.
It just breaks my heart to know of the sacrifices of certain people in the fdl community, of their work which is not always visible to others, and then to have our efforts snubbed as ‘ineffectual’ when they absolutely are not, I guess I just lost my temper.
GGwizz, I apologize.
that’s an idea! will you bring it up with christy this morning? she may know someone in the TN or GA bar.selise @ 204
thanks for the vote of confidence in the idea that something can be done.
I sent my idea to her via her e-mail address, which has bounced in the past. still waiting to see if it bounces this time. If you know a way to bring it directly to her attention, I would be very grateful.
Maybe it’s time for Jon Stewart to visit Tfucker on his show and tell him to ‘just stop’ like he did on Crossfire. Tfucker’s show is horrendous and worse than Crossfire ever was. What a joke..
This silver spoon fed wussie is just the type of weakling that is intimidated by women…..strong or weak women, it doesn’t matter. He is nothing but a waterboy for Daddy’s cronies and probably only gets a hard on from afar. I have a vision of him jacking off in the bushes as pretty girls walk down the street. His appearance on the dance show proved he has no rhythm.
awww come on…attacking blogs has worked well for billo and tucker needs numbers now or he will never make it to the sweeps….and we have all figured out he is not much good at anything.