Wow, twice

fyi - looks like there will be a live webcast of the the rules commmittee hearing this morning, if anyone is interested in watching. here’s the link & info:

10 am - Senate Rules and Administration
Business meeting to consider the nominations of Robert Charles Tapella, of Virginia, to be Public Printer, Steven T. Walther, of Nevada, Hans von Spakovsky, of Georgia, David M. Mason, of Virginia, and Robert D. Lenhard, of Maryland, all to be a Members of the Federal Election Commission

for a complete list, see the hearings weekly list (updated this morning with 14 additional hearings)

You’ve got to hand it to this bunch. They NEVER give up! Instead of lying low for the rest of his term until he can slink out of office, Bush and pals continue to push the agenda. It’s all about getting the deck stacked properly, and they are on a deadline!

(I’m calling now)

Good Morning Christy

thanks!

DiFi’s line is busy… I wonder if that is a good sign?

OldCoastie @ 5

DiFi’s line is busy… I wonder if that is a good sign?

was busy everytime i tried calling yesterday too.

I got right thru yesterday morning but not today.

OldCoastie @ 7

I got right thru yesterday morning but not today.

i didn’t start calling until the afternoon.

all righty - talked to a nice young staffer and registered my objection to von Spakovsky…

Got through to Inouye’s office,told them I’m STRONGLY against the appointment

Feinstein: got voice message and then was disconnected. Reid: Spoke to aide. He took my message.

My the lines are jammed this morning. Got to get lunches made (hot lunch is apparently “gross” today) but I will keep trying!

I’d love to see Feinstein ask to see photo IDs from Mitch McConnell and Trent Lott before letting them vote on this nomination.

O/T, but good news (and related to Democrats in Congress doing the right thing): Senate Dems nix CIA torture guy

Mornin Christy n pups,
Called Schumer yesterday and will remind him today.IANAL so can anyone say if this last paragraph is cagey? Thanks in advance and all my best to pups everywhere.
Last paragraph

Just underscores the importance of the DOJ- Rove investigation, if that is the correct term. Nothing matters unless the pols have the balls to do what needs to be done.

Without secure voting, we are no longer a democracy!!

Katie Jensen @ 17

Without secure voting, we are no longer a democracy!!

Agreed - that’s why given von Spakovsky’s history, I wouldn’t want him anywhere near the electoral process.

But the supreme court is going to come down on the side of the republicans anyway, roberts and alito will make whatever decision thet think will help republicans win

@ don’t think too many people think this court will do anything but vote for idiology’ regardless of the constitution

I’m going to dig out fax numbers and that handy online faxer ;-) I only got busy signals yesterday, but to be honest, I’m not in a position to sit on the phone for a while trying to break through that which is why I emailed instead. But faxing might be something to try today :-)

Mr. President,

Hans Van Spakovsky(VAN-SPA-COFF-SKI) says the election(E-LECK-SHUN) is in the bag.

Love and pleasure(PLE-ZER) serving you.

-Karl Rove(TURDBLOSSOM)

Oh, and good morning Christie, everyone!

(hey, still working on that first cup of coffee, not all awake yet)

perris @ 19

But the supreme court is going to come down on the side of the republicans anyway, roberts and alito will make whatever decision thet think will help republicans win

@ don’t think too many people think this court will do anything but vote for idiology’ regardless of the constitution

which is why the election needs to not be close enough to come before the SCOTUS

Um, question from a newbie at political calling…can we still call these people if we’re not in their district? What do I say if they ask where I live?

Would I be correct in assuming that Nelson and Pryor are the biggest question marks?

Think I’ll check out Hagel too.

Thanks CHS for keeping us so up to date on the ongoing efforts to suppress votes.

Calling again and passing the word on and on via many list serves.

Hysteria @ 24

Um, question from a newbie at political calling…can we still call these people if we’re not in their district? What do I say if they ask where I live?

I always speak the truth.
In this case, I say I’m calling everyone on the committee.
In the case of Habeus, I told them that my two senators were already on board to vote correctly and that I was helping friends reach their Members with the importance of said vote.

Hysteria @ 24

Um, question from a newbie at political calling…can we still call these people if we’re not in their district? What do I say if they ask where I live?

I dunno - with DiFi, they always ask for a zip code - helps if you are in the state - perhaps you have a relative or friend whose zip you could borrow?

Christy, I reached everyone except Feinstein, Durbin and Hutchinson. I’ll keep trying those. I always tell committee members the state I’m calling from. Lets them know we’re watching. Committees serve all of us…not just their district.

OT..

demi, no “F” yet?

Where is everyone?

Steve-AR @ 30

OT..

Almost there. Got my fdl url last night.
Check me later, tho. (thanks for asking.)
Phone calls, emails, reading.
So little time for f’ing. :)

The echo in here is making me nervous. Has the meeting started yet?

GSD @ 21

Mr. President,

Hans Van Spakovsky(VAN-SPA-COFF-SKI) says the election(E-LECK-SHUN) is in the bag.

Love and pleasure(PLE-ZER) serving you.

-Karl Rove(TURDBLOSSOM)

GSD-

Hysterical! Shrub is Hooked on Phonics (FON IKS)

Burma on Diane Rehm
http://wamu.org/programs/dr/

Anyone know if there is a count for the yea and nays yet?

No one will give an answer how they are going to vote.

Lindy @ 31

Where is everyone?

On the phone.

Me too. I’m still trying for the three I couldn’t raise.

peanutbutter @ 20

I’m going to dig out fax numbers and that handy online faxer ;-) I only got busy signals yesterday, but to be honest, I’m not in a position to sit on the phone for a while trying to break through that which is why I emailed instead. But faxing might be something to try today :-)

I find faxing much easier to do. And this web site will give you all the fax #s you need.

GSD @ 21

Mr. President,

Hans Van Spakovsky(VAN-SPA-COFF-SKI) says the election(E-LECK-SHUN) is in the bag.

Love and pleasure(PLE-ZER) serving you.

-Karl Rove(TURDBLOSSOM)

nuclear (NOO-q-lur)

The right to vote in a representative republic such as ours is a sacred trust between those who govern and those who are governed. This issue is so crucial that the US Supreme Court will be taking up a voter ID case in the next term to ensure that an opinion is issued prior to the voting in 2008: “As in many constitutional disputes, the choice of standard will drive the case. If strict scrutiny applies, the state will have to show not just that voter fraud is a valid reason for requiring identification, but that impersonating a registered voter is such a serious problem in Indiana that it justifies a remedy that will predictably deter members of identifiable groups from voting at all.”

In that regard, could cagers be prosecuted under Title 18 Section 241 (Conspiracy against rights)?

If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District [or go in disguise on the highway, or on his premises, with intent to prevent or hinder him] in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same … [t]hey shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both …

I’m told that in this case, the perpetrators don’t have to DO anything. Simply talking about it is a felony.

bluejeansntshirt @ 33

The echo in here is making me nervous. Has the meeting started yet?

live webstream is up and running (see link above) but meeting hasn’t started yet.

meeting has started.

difi says that the vote requires a majority, of present committee members i think.

there is some disagreement on whether the vote will be for all of the committees at once or individually.

… and DiFi is the Chair for this committee. Is there a chance that this appointment won’t be manipulated or allowed to pass through poor management, inattentiveness, and obfuscation?

Do pigs fly?

Hysteria @ 24

Um, question from a newbie at political calling…can we still call these people if we’re not in their district? What do I say if they ask where I live?

At the least, you can call Pelosi and Reid no matter where you live. They are the leaders in each part of Congress after all.

difi says that she wants to vote “no” on one of the nominees. but that one of the Ds wants to vote “yes” on that nominee. she suggests that the nominee be reported out without recomendation.

back to the disagreement about how to vote on the nominees - by block or individually.

OT: Larry Johnson has a diary up.
snip
Certainly not an earth shattering headline, but disturbing nonetheless. The lack of love between George Bush and the United Nations is an old “dog-bites-man” story. Having put haters like John Bolton at the helm of the U.S. delegation, Bush’s in-your-face “go f*ck yourself” hostility to all things UN is no secret.

But today’s performance in New York set a new low even for the Bush Administration. Except for tepid applause when Bush was introduced and when he left the podium, no one clapped. Not even our allies. The world has caught on to the George Bush propaganda game and declines to show him a modicum of respect.

bluejeansntshirt @ 15

Mornin Christy n pups,
Called Schumer yesterday and will remind him today.IANAL so can anyone say if this last paragraph is cagey? Thanks in advance and all my best to pups everywhere.
Last paragraph

No the Boards of Elections in NY usually send postcards, that are clearly from the BOE telling voters where their polling place is. If the card is returned, that CAN trigger an investigation BY THE BOARD to see if the voter has moved or died.

Cageing is when an NGO (like a cmapign) sends out letters to voters (often disguised to create the impression that they are bill collection letters –kinda like thos magazine offers that try to look like they are important registered letters, then you open them and they are just a magazine offer) and then uses the list compiled from the returned “undeliverable” letters to falsely claim that the voter doesn’t live their.

Little known fact, just because someone mails you a letter, you are not obligated to accept delivery.

What I am curious about, is how a Republican operative came to have the list of returned voter post cards. It may be a FOIL-able document, but I don’t know that for sure since it it is not a “record’ or a “final Agency decison” or (well it’s a long list)–but raw investigative data–which is what it is, is usually not FOIL -able.

Very early in my legal career, I was the FOIL (Freedom of Inofrmation Law) officer for the gov’t ageny I worked for.

selise @ 43

meeting has started.

difi says that the vote requires a majority, of present committee members i think.

there is some disagreement on whether the vote will be for all of the committees at once or individually.

If DiFi doesn’t cave like she did over Southwick, Von Spakovsky’s nomination should die in committee. And I hope no other Dem caves either.

selise @ 46

difi says that she wants to vote “no” on one of the nominees. but that one of the Ds wants to vote “yes” on that nominee. she suggests that the nominee be reported out without recomendation.

back to the disagreement about how to vote on the nominees - by block or individually.

Thanks Selise. I appreciate the info.

senator bennett is arguing to have the vote done by block (vote on all nominees together).

mcconnell is arguing that the vote should be by block. minority leader is, i think, not a member of this committee and he is just visiting. says that when the nominees come to the floor they will be voted on altogether or not at all.

ccmask @ 47

OT: Larry Johnson has a diary up.
snip
Certainly not an earth shattering headline, but disturbing nonetheless. The lack of love between George Bush and the United Nations is an old “dog-bites-man” story. Having put haters like John Bolton at the helm of the U.S. delegation, Bush’s in-your-face “go f*ck yourself” hostility to all things UN is no secret.

But today’s performance in New York set a new low even for the Bush Administration. Except for tepid applause when Bush was introduced and when he left the podium, no one clapped. Not even our allies. The world has caught on to the George Bush propaganda game and declines to show him a modicum of respect.

That suprised you? The rest of the world finally said they’ll give him the middle finger right back. How the rest of the world figures it out, yet their is still the 30%’ers here, I’ll never understand. Unless they like having a daddy figure that much.

Oh, BTW

I would be calling Schumer. I worry that he will have traded his vote on this for Yeah Votes on Mukasey.

selise @ 51

senator bennett is arguing to have the vote done by block (vote on all nominees together).

mcconnell is arguing that the vote should be by block. minority leader is, i think, not a member of this committee and he is just visiting. says that when the nominees come to the floor they will be voted on altogether or not at all.

No surprise there, eh?

The goopers are trying to “squeeze” SPA-KOF-SKI through by hiding him among other nominees. Boy they think a lot of him huh!

Per AP: There is a hearing today by the House Commerce Trade and Consumer Protection re the content of hip hop lyrics. Why is Congress spending time on this? I thought this b/s would be over with the Dems in charge?

We have a war/occupation, we have impeachment off the table, we have a health care crisis, a constituional crisis, but Pelosi allows this. Disgusting.

selise @ 51

senator bennett is arguing to have the vote done by block (vote on all nominees together).

mcconnell is arguing that the vote should be by block. minority leader is, i think, not a member of this committee and he is just visiting. says that when the nominees come to the floor they will be voted on altogether or not at all.

So they are holding the unobjectional nominees hostage to Spakovshi? Evil, but clever

looseheadprop @ 53

Oh, BTW

I would be calling Schumer. I worry that he will have traded his vote on this for Yeah Votes on Mukasey.

That deal concerns me. Good ole boy network isn’t just a Republican thing.

DiFi is lookin’ to move Von Spakovsky on to the Floor vote with no recommendation from the Committee.

This isn’t good…

there is a motion to report out Hans von Spakovsky without a recommendation and approve the rest (sorry i didn’t catch who made the motion).

there is a second and then an objection.

difi says that if the motion is passed the senate could later put them back together again to vote on all the nominees in block.

looseheadprop @ 57

selise @ 51

senator bennett is arguing to have the vote done by block (vote on all nominees together).

mcconnell is arguing that the vote should be by block. minority leader is, i think, not a member of this committee and he is just visiting. says that when the nominees come to the floor they will be voted on altogether or not at all.

So they are holding the unobjectional nominees hostage to Spakovshi? Evil, but clever

They probably came to realize that’s the only way Spakovsky will get anywhere today, riding on the shirttails of others.

Where have I seen that before? *g*

Finally, after two days of trying, got through to Durbin’s office. His aide said that he hadn’t stated a position yet. I said he can kiss the 2008 elections goodbye, and any further support from me as well, if he voted to confirm this scoundrel.

What’s it going to take to get these guys to wake up? They’re still trying to act as though the senate is still all mannerly and high minded. Attack, attack, attack!

DiFi will never learn. Maybe she doesn’t want to.

CHS,

I saw your explanation last night when I got home from work about the A*P*C filtering problem. Thanks.

JH

looseheadprop @ 57

selise @ 51

senator bennett is arguing to have the vote done by block (vote on all nominees together).

mcconnell is arguing that the vote should be by block. minority leader is, i think, not a member of this committee and he is just visiting. says that when the nominees come to the floor they will be voted on altogether or not at all.

So they are holding the unobjectional nominees hostage to Spakovshi? Evil, but clever

In days of yore, they’d scream for holding a “clean, up or down vote” on each nominee. Today, not so much.

kdh22 @ 63

DiFi will never learn. Maybe she doesn’t want to.

Glenn Greenwald has well documented how DiFi has become the new HoJo.

motion passed - they’re moving all four nomninees through with no recommendation, one way or the other, from the Committee.

Gutless. Spineless.

Bullshit.

kdh22 @ 63

DiFi will never learn. Maybe she doesn’t want to.

ddh22 and selise - I just turned this on. What are the the rules? Are they recommending them together? What does that mean? It seems as though DiFi just caved.

another objection… but itsn’t there a majority member who wants to vote “yes” on the Hans von Spakovsky?

another motion - to vote on all the nominees together in order to report them all out to the senate floor, but without recommendation.

shorter motion - let’s kick the can down the road to the full senate.

difi says she is ok with this, so long as she gets to say why she doesn’t think Hans von Spakovsky should be approved.

difi now making the case about why Hans von Spakovsky should not be approved.

I would not be opposed to having anyone charged and tried for treason if found supressing the voting rights of Americans. If you take away my right to vote because of your assumption that I might not vote for your candidate or initiative, you have harmed not just me, you have harmed America. Got rope?

Late to the party. Is it too late for phone calls. How’s it looking?

fyi - i am recording the audio of this hearing… will post shortly after completion of the hearing in case there are any firepups who would like to give it a listen.

mui @ 72

Late to the party. Is it too late for phone calls. How’s it looking?

It’s over.

mui @ 72

Late to the party. Is it too late for phone calls. How’s it looking?

NO one would say how their senators would be voting. That was my experience.

jayt @ 74

mui @ 72

Late to the party. Is it too late for phone calls. How’s it looking?

It’s over.

No answer at Chris Dodd’s office anyway.

How did Senator Stevens look during the hearing? Given yesterday’s verdict in the VECO bribery case, I’d guess that he’d be a bit unhappy today, at the very least.

kdh22 @ 63

DiFi will never learn. Maybe she doesn’t want to.

What? She is still speaking against von Spakovsky as I write this. Talking about how career people that worked with this guy were highly critical and giving the reasons why. Sounds like she’ll vote against him, and is trying to convince other to do the same. I’m no fan of DiFi, but she seems to be doing all she can in this case.

Ann in AZ @ 78

kdh22 @ 63

DiFi will never learn. Maybe she doesn’t want to.

What? She is still speaking against von Spakovsky as I write this. Talking about how career people that worked with this guy were highly critical and giving the reasons why. Sounds like she’ll vote against him, and is trying to convince other to do the same. I’m no fan of DiFi, but she seems to be doing all she can in this case.

it is kabuki

A Kos diary in the past few days (sorry rushing no time to find link) reported that von Spa is a deal approved by Schumer in exchange for one of his.

I emailed my Senator Durbin the other day requesting a “no” vote. I mean can’t they stall this til 2009?

Thanks CHS, selise and especially looseheadprop for the detailed explanation. The wealth of knowledge I have tapped into here at the lake is priceless. Lurking and lovin you pups every day. Jes’ thanks.

difi still making the case against Hans von Spakovsky. but it seems like she will not insist on voting against him.

selise @ 82

difi still making the case against Hans von Spakovsky. but it seems like she will not insist on voting against him.

Selise which channel?

i want to know which D wants to vote FOR Hans von Spakovsky.

I see the Magna Cadta is up for sale. It would be great if someone bought it and donated it to the Republican Party. I think they need to read it.

mui @ 83

selise @ 82

difi still making the case against Hans von Spakovsky. but it seems like she will not insist on voting against him.

Selise which channel?

see link at my #2 above

Ann in AZ @ 78

kdh22 @ 63

DiFi will never learn. Maybe she doesn’t want to.

What? She is still speaking against von Spakovsky as I write this. Talking about how career people that worked with this guy were highly critical and giving the reasons why. Sounds like she’ll vote against him, and is trying to convince other to do the same. I’m no fan of DiFi, but she seems to be doing all she can in this case.

DiFi will not take any responsiblity. Moving all of them to the floor will take the heat off her to make a concrete stand on the matter.

What do they call that? Oh, yeah, non-committal…and safe. She’s a protectionist…her own protectionist.

Who’s the idiot who thinks it’s bizarre that people who work in the civil rights division are liberal?

bennett up now reading from the wsj.

selise @ 82

difi still making the case against Hans von Spakovsky. but it seems like she will not insist on voting against him.

Then what’s her point?

Merci. selise @ 86

mui @ 83

Selise which channel?

see link at my #2 above

Merci

Helen @ 88

Who’s the idiot who thinks it’s bizarre that people who work in the civil rights division are liberal?

i think it is bob bennett, ranking member of the committee

Biodun @ 90

selise @ 82

difi still making the case against Hans von Spakovsky. but it seems like she will not insist on voting against him.

Then what’s her point?

Feels like we are no competition for backroom handshakes and pats.

selise @ 84

i want to know which D wants to vote FOR Hans von Spakovsky.

I think you could count one of the Nelsons for that, but I’m not sure which one.

I actually thought that DiFi was as forceful as I’ve ever seen her. She stated pretty emphatically that she couldn’t possibly vote for him. She may be the head of the committee, but she is not alone on the committee and can only go so far when the Repugs and even some Dems seem to want to go send these guys to the floor in a block!

Biodun @ 90

selise @ 82

difi still making the case against Hans von Spakovsky. but it seems like she will not insist on voting against him.

Then what’s her point?

my interpretation is “kick the can”. but it’s not over yet… bennett still arguing in defense of Hans von Spakovsky (although not directly).

mui @ 93

Biodun @ 90

Then what’s her point?

Feels like we are no competition for backroom handshakes and pats.

I’ll give her that. Shumer overrules on behalf of Mukasey. Ahhh, the tangled webs….

Perplexed and Puzzled @ 85

I see the Magna Cadta is up for sale. It would be great if someone bought it and donated it to the Republican Party. I think they need to read it.

Read it hell! They’d tear it up. They should never be allowed to touch that document!

Ann in AZ @ 97

Perplexed and Puzzled @ 85

I see the Magna Cadta is up for sale. It would be great if someone bought it and donated it to the Republican Party. I think they need to read it.

Read it hell! They’d tear it up. They should never be allowed to touch that document!

Agreed. Just look what they did to the Constitution.

Ann in AZ @ 94

I actually thought that DiFi was as forceful as I’ve ever seen her. She stated pretty emphatically that she couldn’t possibly vote for him. She may be the head of the committee, but she is not alone on the committee and can only go so far when the Repugs and even some Dems seem to want to go send these guys to the floor in a block!

i’m not sure her nice words matter unless she insists on voting AGAINST Hans von Spakovsky.

it was determined earlier in the hearing that voting in block requires a unanimous consent (so difi could alone prevent that).. however it is the history and tradition of the committee to vote and report nominees in pairs (one D and one R).

bennett now arguing for this tradition of block voting.

Marcy over at the “Next Hurrah” has written
The Upcoming Resolution for War on Iran
http://thenexthurrah.typepad.c.....ng-re.html

The Kyl/Lieberman amendment
http://www.warandpiece.com/blogdirs/Kyl-Lieberman Amendment.pdf

Laura Rozen over at War and Peace update on the Kyl/Lieberman update

Tuesday Update: “Votes got postponed until tomorrow morning, but Kyl-Lieberman is on tap for tomorrow. Schumer allegedly working on a side by side. Levin will likely vote yes, while … Reid is likely to vote no. … The alternative will still condemn iran, but probably use less inflammatory language and likely make clear that it is not authorizing force in any manner.”
http://www.warandpiece.com/blogdirs/006633.html

————————————————-

ALSO REALLY IMPORTANT
Call (202-224-3121) or write your Senators to ask them to oppose the Kyl-Lieberman amendment on Iran.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/9/25/11519/1540

Webb ( a man who served his country) challenges Kyl/Liebermann (men who have not served their country in the military) rips the
Kyl/Liebermann amendment.

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/.....lieb-iran/
Webb calls the Kyl/Liebermann amendment “tantamount to a declaration of war”

From civil rights.org:

Von Spakovsky also tried to undermine the work of a commission looking at the impact new voter ID laws.

When the federal Election Assistance Commission came out with a report critical of the voter ID laws that von Spakovsky championed, he sent a testy email to EAC chairman Paul DeGregorio objecting to the commission’s findings and eventually helped orchestrate DeGregorio’s departure.
Von Spakovsky found new ways of disenfranchising minority voters.

In 2003, he used his expertise and influence in the DOJ to push through Tom Delay’s Texas redistricting plan against the objections of the more experienced lawyers and analysts who said the plan discriminated against black and Hispanic voters in two Congressional districts. In 2006, the Supreme Court held that parts of the plan violated provisions of Voting Rights Act by diluting minority voting strength.

With competitive races in 2008 on the horizon, having von Spakovsky serve a six-year term on the FEC would give him additional opportunities to undermine the progress made on ensuring fair elections and, even, potentially unjustly influencing the outcome of numerous races.

I hope some of our calls yesterday make a difference. I called a bunch of them, told them how we got paper ballots and why (NM).

Once again hearing the argument that whoever the President nominates should be the nominee. Hey, jerks, that kinda defeats the idea of Senate advise and consent, doesn’t it? Idiots!

ok -I’m confused.

Is the Committee unable to proceed because everybody is too busy to attend?

Or is DiFi moving Von Sp on, without recommendation, because she knows Shumer was gonna vote in favor?

Either way - it stinks, and I sure as hell don’t think that Reid is leader enough to make sure that Von Sp gets voted down.

back and forth between difi and bennett about events in georgia

selise @ 99

Ann in AZ @ 94

I actually thought that DiFi was as forceful as I’ve ever seen her. She stated pretty emphatically that she couldn’t possibly vote for him. She may be the head of the committee, but she is not alone on the committee and can only go so far when the Repugs and even some Dems seem to want to go send these guys to the floor in a block!

i’m not sure her nice words matter unless she insists on voting AGAINST Hans von Spakovsky.

it was determined earlier in the hearing that voting in block requires a unanimous consent (so difi could alone prevent that).. however it is the history and tradition of the committee to vote and report nominees in pairs (one D and one R).

bennett now arguing for this tradition of block voting.

& “quoting” Senator Dodd.

Kathleen @ 100

Marcy over at the “Next Hurrah” has written
The Upcoming Resolution for War on Iran
http://thenexthurrah.typepad.c.....ng-re.html

The Kyl/Lieberman amendment
http://www.warandpiece.com/blogdirs/Kyl-Lieberman Amendment.pdf

Laura Rozen over at War and Peace update on the Kyl/Lieberman update

Tuesday Update: “Votes got postponed until tomorrow morning, but Kyl-Lieberman is on tap for tomorrow. Schumer allegedly working on a side by side. Levin will likely vote yes, while … Reid is likely to vote no. … The alternative will still condemn iran, but probably use less inflammatory language and likely make clear that it is not authorizing force in any manner.”
http://www.warandpiece.com/blogdirs/006633.html

————————————————-

ALSO REALLY IMPORTANT
Call (202-224-3121) or write your Senators to ask them to oppose the Kyl-Lieberman amendment on Iran.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/9/25/11519/1540

Webb ( a man who served his country) challenges Kyl/Liebermann (men who have not served their country in the military) rips the
Kyl/Liebermann amendment.

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/.....lieb-iran/
Webb calls the Kyl/Liebermann amendment “tantamount to a declaration of war”

Webb is an odd bird. He caves to the Decider on FISA, yet gets up yesterday and blasts Kyl and HoJo.

Joe Klein’s conscience @ 107

Kathleen @ 100

Marcy over at the “Next Hurrah” has written
The Upcoming Resolution for War on Iran
http://thenexthurrah.typepad.c.....ng-re.html

The Kyl/Lieberman amendment
http://www.warandpiece.com/blogdirs/Kyl-Lieberman</