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		<title>By: rob in toronto</title>
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		<dc:creator>rob in toronto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 05:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This bit of silliness from Brooks got me thinking about the whole idea of partisan political “struggle”  and I am wondering if anyone else would agree with the conclusion that I came up with (&lt;a href=&quot;http://robwolfe.blogspot.com/2007/09/what-is-wrong-with-being-partisan.html&quot;&gt;after much babbling to the air&lt;/a&gt;).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Partisan political struggle is how the country decides what it stands for. Without it we have a mushy pile of nothing.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This bit of silliness from Brooks got me thinking about the whole idea of partisan political “struggle”  and I am wondering if anyone else would agree with the conclusion that I came up with (<a href="http://robwolfe.blogspot.com/2007/09/what-is-wrong-with-being-partisan.html">after much babbling to the air</a>).</p>
<blockquote><p>Partisan political struggle is how the country decides what it stands for. Without it we have a mushy pile of nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob in AZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob in AZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 05:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ah, yes - Brooks redux on the “historic opportunity to pick up disaffected Republicans and moderates”&lt;br /&gt;
Uh, that wouldn’t be related in any way to the last historic opportunity to sell out, would it? Or the one before?  Before that, maybe?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, yes &#8211; Brooks redux on the “historic opportunity to pick up disaffected Republicans and moderates”<br />
Uh, that wouldn’t be related in any way to the last historic opportunity to sell out, would it? Or the one before?  Before that, maybe?</p>
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		<title>By: Amilius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amilius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 04:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Can anyone tell me how the fiction that David Brooks was competent to discuss anything that might interest a civilized society originated?  He stands as individual evidence for the spontaneous generation of idiocy.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can anyone tell me how the fiction that David Brooks was competent to discuss anything that might interest a civilized society originated?  He stands as individual evidence for the spontaneous generation of idiocy.</p>
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		<title>By: questioneverything</title>
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		<dc:creator>questioneverything</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 04:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;David who?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David who?</p>
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		<title>By: Dean Wormer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dean Wormer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 03:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;The fact is, many Democratic politicians privately detest the netroots’ self-righteousness and bullying. They also know their party has a historic opportunity to pick up disaffected Republicans and moderates, so long as they don’t blow it by drifting into cuckoo land.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Or: the netroots aren’t that important but Democratic politicians are so scared of ‘em they won’t go on record calling them out.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Okay.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The fact is, many Democratic politicians privately detest the netroots’ self-righteousness and bullying. They also know their party has a historic opportunity to pick up disaffected Republicans and moderates, so long as they don’t blow it by drifting into cuckoo land.</p>
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<p>Or: the netroots aren’t that important but Democratic politicians are so scared of ‘em they won’t go on record calling them out.</p>
<p>Okay.</p>
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		<title>By: diogenes</title>
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		<dc:creator>diogenes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 03:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-994913&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;raven @ 141&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-994908&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Kathleen @ 137&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;The MSM is all about Hillary Hillary Hillary.  They basically ignore John Edwards why is this?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Do the Republicans think they can take out Hillary easier than Edwards?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don’t suppose that it might have anything to do with the fact she is the first viable female presidential candidate?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Let’s assume the race and gender of our candidates were unknown, and we had only their records and positions to go by. Who to vote for?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Not even close.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://johnedwards.com/media/video/nh-tour-end-the-game/&quot;&gt;http://johnedwards.com/media/v.....-the-game/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Or this:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.roselawfirm.com/practice/management.asp&quot;&gt;http://www.roselawfirm.com/practice/management.asp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’d vote for a green-eyed martian if they were progressive. I can’t afford another 8 years of corporatism-gone-wild.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-994913"><em>raven @ 141</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-994908"><em>Kathleen @ 137</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>The MSM is all about Hillary Hillary Hillary.  They basically ignore John Edwards why is this?</p>
<p>Do the Republicans think they can take out Hillary easier than Edwards?</p>
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<p>I don’t suppose that it might have anything to do with the fact she is the first viable female presidential candidate?</p>
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<p>Let’s assume the race and gender of our candidates were unknown, and we had only their records and positions to go by. Who to vote for?</p>
<p>Not even close.</p>
<p>This:<br />
<a href="http://johnedwards.com/media/video/nh-tour-end-the-game/">http://johnedwards.com/media/v&#8230;..-the-game/</a></p>
<p>Or this:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.roselawfirm.com/practice/management.asp">http://www.roselawfirm.com/practice/management.asp</a></p>
<p>I’d vote for a green-eyed martian if they were progressive. I can’t afford another 8 years of corporatism-gone-wild.</p>
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		<title>By: DrDick</title>
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		<dc:creator>DrDick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 02:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Just a quick hit and run warm up for late night, but I have to wonder if dear Bobo ever learned to read?  He certainly is statistically challenged.  In every major poll, including such gold standards as the social science survey, the American public are overwhelming liberal in most of their attitudes.  Indeed, the American public is well to the left of the “moderate” Democrats (read DLC, et al.).  The mainstream Republican positions are several standard deviations to the right of the vast bulk of the American people.  In social science we call that “the fringe”.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Have to agree with you TRex, time to send Bobo and most of these inane pundits back behind the wall.  Krugman, however, can stay out in public.  The rest get a long time out, alone in their rooms with the lights out.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a quick hit and run warm up for late night, but I have to wonder if dear Bobo ever learned to read?  He certainly is statistically challenged.  In every major poll, including such gold standards as the social science survey, the American public are overwhelming liberal in most of their attitudes.  Indeed, the American public is well to the left of the “moderate” Democrats (read DLC, et al.).  The mainstream Republican positions are several standard deviations to the right of the vast bulk of the American people.  In social science we call that “the fringe”.</p>
<p>Have to agree with you TRex, time to send Bobo and most of these inane pundits back behind the wall.  Krugman, however, can stay out in public.  The rest get a long time out, alone in their rooms with the lights out.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Bigod</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger Bigod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 02:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;TRex,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The best putdown of style I know of is Normal Mailer on LBJ’s speeches.  He called it “diswater prose”. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I haven’t read Brooks since his piece just before the 2004 election, the most concentrated dose of venom, spite and hatred I’ve read.  It looked like he expected to lose and thought that if he could sway just a few votes with a maximum exertion of viciousness, it was worth blowing his cutesy act over.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We are looking forward to your appreciation of the Moustache.  It might be a good idea to stock up on cortisol cream in case you break out in hives.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TRex,</p>
<p>The best putdown of style I know of is Normal Mailer on LBJ’s speeches.  He called it “diswater prose”. </p>
<p>I haven’t read Brooks since his piece just before the 2004 election, the most concentrated dose of venom, spite and hatred I’ve read.  It looked like he expected to lose and thought that if he could sway just a few votes with a maximum exertion of viciousness, it was worth blowing his cutesy act over.  </p>
<p>We are looking forward to your appreciation of the Moustache.  It might be a good idea to stock up on cortisol cream in case you break out in hives.</p>
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		<title>By: Alecia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alecia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 01:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-994849&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Kathleen @ 79&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Democrats and Republicans are terrified by the blogosphere.  If Gore runs he will embrace the blogs.  You bet your ass he is watching and waiting.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He could provide some well needed balance to the political discourse and redirect some of the madness that is going on.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-994849"><em>Kathleen @ 79</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Democrats and Republicans are terrified by the blogosphere.  If Gore runs he will embrace the blogs.  You bet your ass he is watching and waiting.</p>
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<p>He could provide some well needed balance to the political discourse and redirect some of the madness that is going on.</p>
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		<title>By: Oklahoma kiddo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oklahoma kiddo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 01:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-994972&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Loo Hoo. @ 192&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;OKK, nobody is shoving Clinton down my throat, although they may be trying.  I like her because she is smart enough to NOT let the MSM screw her over.  Remember the debate on CNN when the “moderator” tried to get the dem candidates to raise their hands on an issue that involved a much more complex answer than just a yes or no?  Remember when she didn’t give the easy answer of saying she would promise to meet with the leaders of Iran and North Korea?  Remember Sunday, when she had the ability to line up the MSM with her schedule to get on all of the political shows?  I love the idea that this woman is brilliant and has brilliant people around her.  Remember, nobody can accomplish anything if they are not elected.  She knows that anything she says now to pacify us lefties will be used against her in the general election.  Karl Rove has met his match, and then some.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think we’ll just have to disagree on Sen. Clinton. ;0)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-994972"><em>Loo Hoo. @ 192</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>OKK, nobody is shoving Clinton down my throat, although they may be trying.  I like her because she is smart enough to NOT let the MSM screw her over.  Remember the debate on CNN when the “moderator” tried to get the dem candidates to raise their hands on an issue that involved a much more complex answer than just a yes or no?  Remember when she didn’t give the easy answer of saying she would promise to meet with the leaders of Iran and North Korea?  Remember Sunday, when she had the ability to line up the MSM with her schedule to get on all of the political shows?  I love the idea that this woman is brilliant and has brilliant people around her.  Remember, nobody can accomplish anything if they are not elected.  She knows that anything she says now to pacify us lefties will be used against her in the general election.  Karl Rove has met his match, and then some.</p>
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<p>I think we’ll just have to disagree on Sen. Clinton. ;0)</p>
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