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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/24/morning-cuppa-misplaced-health-priorities/#comment-992754</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 01:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;My question for the next debate is…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For each candidate who has announced a universal health care plan, universality spreads the cost among more people, but what in your plan would prevent costs from rising as fast as they have been the last several decades?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My question for the next debate is…</p>
<p>For each candidate who has announced a universal health care plan, universality spreads the cost among more people, but what in your plan would prevent costs from rising as fast as they have been the last several decades?</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/24/morning-cuppa-misplaced-health-priorities/#comment-992734</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 01:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-991551&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Biodun @ 114&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;And here’s another beaut from Hillary:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0709/23/le.01.html&quot;&gt;From CNN’s Late Edition yesterday:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
BLITZER: Do you believe, as General Petraeus testified, that Iranians are supplying sophisticated weaponry to their allies in Iraq that winds up killing American soldiers?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;CLINTON: Yes, I believe that Iran is playing a very dangerous game in Iraq in supporting all kinds of groups, to attack our forces, to destabilize the Iraqi government, to further their goals in Iraq. I believe that includes the provision of weapons and training. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So this is one of the results of the policies that have been pursued by the Bush administration, that Iran is in a much stronger position today than it was. And we’ve got to have a united international front against Iran, and most especially against Iran acquiring the capacity for nuclear weapons.
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Is this really the woman the Dems want to be nominated for President?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So, the natural continuation of this is that we stay in Iraq *forever*?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What happens the day after we leave Iraq?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Just how long does Hillary envision us staying in Iraq?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-991551"><em>Biodun @ 114</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>And here’s another beaut from Hillary:</p>
<p><a href="http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0709/23/le.01.html">From CNN’s Late Edition yesterday:</a></p>
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BLITZER: Do you believe, as General Petraeus testified, that Iranians are supplying sophisticated weaponry to their allies in Iraq that winds up killing American soldiers?</p>
<p>CLINTON: Yes, I believe that Iran is playing a very dangerous game in Iraq in supporting all kinds of groups, to attack our forces, to destabilize the Iraqi government, to further their goals in Iraq. I believe that includes the provision of weapons and training. </p>
<p>So this is one of the results of the policies that have been pursued by the Bush administration, that Iran is in a much stronger position today than it was. And we’ve got to have a united international front against Iran, and most especially against Iran acquiring the capacity for nuclear weapons.
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<p>Is this really the woman the Dems want to be nominated for President?</p>
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<p>So, the natural continuation of this is that we stay in Iraq *forever*?</p>
<p>What happens the day after we leave Iraq?</p>
<p>Just how long does Hillary envision us staying in Iraq?</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/24/morning-cuppa-misplaced-health-priorities/#comment-992727</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 01:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-991544&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;jeanruss @ 108&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;John Edwards just put out a BRILLIANT education plan and it is getting very little attention-we wouldn’t even be focusing on healthcare, if he hadn’t brought it front and center with his plan.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;John Edwards — Leading America, even as the egos bounce off the walls in the next room, yelling, “Look at me. Look at me. Look at me. [ like Laurie Anderson or somethin’ ] “&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-991544"><em>jeanruss @ 108</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>John Edwards just put out a BRILLIANT education plan and it is getting very little attention-we wouldn’t even be focusing on healthcare, if he hadn’t brought it front and center with his plan.</p>
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<p>John Edwards — Leading America, even as the egos bounce off the walls in the next room, yelling, “Look at me. Look at me. Look at me. [ like Laurie Anderson or somethin’ ] “</p>
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		<title>By: Alecia</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/24/morning-cuppa-misplaced-health-priorities/#comment-992466</link>
		<dc:creator>Alecia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 22:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Teen health centres in the Bronx is completely out of emergency contraceptives, and this is an area that has a high teen pregnancy rate.&lt;br /&gt;
The food bank that serves the area is running on empty because the agriculture bill needs to be voted on… while 33% of the people live below the poverty line when the national average is 12%.&lt;br /&gt;
There are real problems out there that needs serious attention and at the same time a war is costing over $3 billion per week..talk about screwed up priorities.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teen health centres in the Bronx is completely out of emergency contraceptives, and this is an area that has a high teen pregnancy rate.<br />
The food bank that serves the area is running on empty because the agriculture bill needs to be voted on… while 33% of the people live below the poverty line when the national average is 12%.<br />
There are real problems out there that needs serious attention and at the same time a war is costing over $3 billion per week..talk about screwed up priorities.</p>
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		<title>By: Adie</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/24/morning-cuppa-misplaced-health-priorities/#comment-991828</link>
		<dc:creator>Adie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 17:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-991474&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Joe Klein’s conscience @ 40&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-991471&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;demi @ 37&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;He’s smacking down on the Congress again.&lt;br /&gt;
He looks tired and cranky.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Did anyone ever tell him, the more speechifying he does the more his popularity drops.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;yeah yeah, i know.  I flunked EPU 101.  But I finally got a chance to see the replay on CSpan.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Anyone else mention it?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The &lt;em&gt;jaw waggle&lt;/em&gt; is back, &lt;em&gt;big-time&lt;/em&gt;. Noticed a very obvious one right after he finished his corrosive little shlupeel to Ccritters to do his royal bidding.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Pfzzh*&amp;t!&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Dam* the tor-phe-does.  Set out the pretzels!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-991474"><em>Joe Klein’s conscience @ 40</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-991471"><em>demi @ 37</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>He’s smacking down on the Congress again.<br />
He looks tired and cranky.</p>
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<p>Did anyone ever tell him, the more speechifying he does the more his popularity drops.</p>
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<p>yeah yeah, i know.  I flunked EPU 101.  But I finally got a chance to see the replay on CSpan.</p>
<p>Anyone else mention it?</p>
<p>The <em>jaw waggle</em> is back, <em>big-time</em>. Noticed a very obvious one right after he finished his corrosive little shlupeel to Ccritters to do his royal bidding.</p>
<p><em>Pfzzh*&amp;t!</em></p>
<p>Dam* the tor-phe-does.  Set out the pretzels!</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/24/morning-cuppa-misplaced-health-priorities/#comment-991818</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 17:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This is not about ideology. The Bush Administration has made a decision that it helps the Republicans to have this be a do-nothing Congress. They are killing bills for political gain. They think it’s how they’ll get back the House and Senate. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The suggestion that there’s an ideological difference here is quite plainly false. Bush believes very strongly in expanding government-run healthcare–he’s already done it!  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In his first term, President Bush passed the Medicare drug bill, which is structured similarly to the CHIP program–giving federal money to private insurers.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Only Bush’s drug bill cost HUNDREDS of billions of dollars (5-10 times more than this proposed CHIP expansion), and unlike CHIP which covers all medical costs, only covered drugs.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And, unlike CHIP which catches kids when they fall off employer-based insurance, Bush’s Medicare drug plan was 100% “crowd-out”–substitution of public money for private money. Seniors who already had private drug plans (either purchased individually or as part of a retirement plan) now had their private drug plans paid for by the government–for them, it was a full government takeover. For everyone else, it was mandatory to sign up for a state-subsidized plan bought from an insurer.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bush expanded Government Health Care in his Medicare drug bill far more expensively and expansively than anyone since LBJ. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For him to suggest that he supported socialized medicine for old people, but now opposes it for kids–that’s insane, and quite obviously a lie.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He’s leaving 4 million kids uninsured so Republicans can call the Democrats a “do nothing” Congress. It’s a disgusting display of politics.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is not about ideology. The Bush Administration has made a decision that it helps the Republicans to have this be a do-nothing Congress. They are killing bills for political gain. They think it’s how they’ll get back the House and Senate. </p>
<p>The suggestion that there’s an ideological difference here is quite plainly false. Bush believes very strongly in expanding government-run healthcare–he’s already done it!  </p>
<p>In his first term, President Bush passed the Medicare drug bill, which is structured similarly to the CHIP program–giving federal money to private insurers.  </p>
<p>Only Bush’s drug bill cost HUNDREDS of billions of dollars (5-10 times more than this proposed CHIP expansion), and unlike CHIP which covers all medical costs, only covered drugs.  </p>
<p>And, unlike CHIP which catches kids when they fall off employer-based insurance, Bush’s Medicare drug plan was 100% “crowd-out”–substitution of public money for private money. Seniors who already had private drug plans (either purchased individually or as part of a retirement plan) now had their private drug plans paid for by the government–for them, it was a full government takeover. For everyone else, it was mandatory to sign up for a state-subsidized plan bought from an insurer.  </p>
<p>Bush expanded Government Health Care in his Medicare drug bill far more expensively and expansively than anyone since LBJ. </p>
<p>For him to suggest that he supported socialized medicine for old people, but now opposes it for kids–that’s insane, and quite obviously a lie.  </p>
<p>He’s leaving 4 million kids uninsured so Republicans can call the Democrats a “do nothing” Congress. It’s a disgusting display of politics.</p>
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		<title>By: BobbyG</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/24/morning-cuppa-misplaced-health-priorities/#comment-991660</link>
		<dc:creator>BobbyG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 15:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“Federalized” health care is &lt;em&gt;bad&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Except, for Bu’ush, when it comes to &lt;em&gt;his&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Lifetime, first-rate, comprehensive coverage, all on the taxpayers’ dime.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Federalized” health care is <em>bad</em>.</p>
<p>Except, for Bu’ush, when it comes to <em>his</em>.</p>
<p>Lifetime, first-rate, comprehensive coverage, all on the taxpayers’ dime.</p>
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		<title>By: katherine Graham Cracker</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/24/morning-cuppa-misplaced-health-priorities/#comment-991658</link>
		<dc:creator>katherine Graham Cracker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 15:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;factcheck on shrub and the children&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.factcheck.org/bushs_false_claims_about_childrens_health_insurance.html&quot;&gt;http://www.factcheck.org/bushs.....rance.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>factcheck on shrub and the children</p>
<p><a href="http://www.factcheck.org/bushs_false_claims_about_childrens_health_insurance.html">http://www.factcheck.org/bushs&#8230;..rance.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Begonia Buzzkill</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/24/morning-cuppa-misplaced-health-priorities/#comment-991651</link>
		<dc:creator>Begonia Buzzkill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 15:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I saw a brief few moments of a panel discussing Bush’s planned veto on this issue.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A Bushie was told by a panelist that if Bush did veto this bill, he would alienate millions of women voters desperately needed for their party.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Bushie’s neck snap was nearly audible.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Considering the massive numbers of divorced/single mothers raising kids forced into lives of poverty which are capable of voting and considering the divorce rates highest in the Red States — you can believe that comment will make it back to the RNC and further up the chain.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw a brief few moments of a panel discussing Bush’s planned veto on this issue.</p>
<p>A Bushie was told by a panelist that if Bush did veto this bill, he would alienate millions of women voters desperately needed for their party.</p>
<p>The Bushie’s neck snap was nearly audible.  </p>
<p>Considering the massive numbers of divorced/single mothers raising kids forced into lives of poverty which are capable of voting and considering the divorce rates highest in the Red States — you can believe that comment will make it back to the RNC and further up the chain.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 15:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-991578&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;sona @ 127&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-991557&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Adie @ 119&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You’re not gonna let the likes of him chase you outta here now, are ya?  Thot not!  Stay put.  You belong here more than jr. does.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Let’s SHUN him.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;DEPORT him?  Have the laws been relaxed on shipping toxic waste?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am an Aussie and a Brit and have every intention of staying put in Australia.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;smart&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-991578"><em>sona @ 127</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-991557"><em>Adie @ 119</em></a></p>
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<p>You’re not gonna let the likes of him chase you outta here now, are ya?  Thot not!  Stay put.  You belong here more than jr. does.</p>
<p>Let’s SHUN him.</p>
<p>DEPORT him?  Have the laws been relaxed on shipping toxic waste?</p>
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<p>I am an Aussie and a Brit and have every intention of staying put in Australia.</p>
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<p>smart</p>
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