Q. What's the difference between George Bush and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad?
A. One is a super-scary totalitarian religious fundamentalist nutjob and the other...has a really nasty beard*.
(*And I don't mean Laura.)
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TREX!
Zed?
Exactly right, TRex.
Zed!
I crack myself up.
Table manners.
CTuttle @ 5
Whew, some quick draw mcgraws tonite…!!!
Well, they both have beards, just different beards. :)
Going to head to bed…. Miss Dog has left the room and I can have the bed to myself [ahhhhh] as she takes her half right out of the middle
See ya tomorrow…. {{{{{{{{{{{TRex}}}}}}}}}} AND {{{{{{{{{{{FDL}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
Hmmm. Which one’s which? lol
Do you know the difference between Dick Cheney and Slobodan Milosevic?
Nice joke. I smiled.
katymine @ 10
Good night, katymine. Enjoy the extra bed space while you can claim it!
pretty much what I what thinking. One a mirror of the other.
Thought it was funny, earlier in the morning on MSM, some ditzy talking head compared Ahmadinejad’s status in iran to that of Dubya’s.
((((( TRex )))))
I caught up downstairs just in time to be EPU’d … *g* … how y’all doin’ ?
HA! Laura the beard ya think?
*chuckle*
burnspbesq @ 12
The hair?
burnspbesq @ 12
Milosevic may be alive?
Best wishes Katymine
katymine @ 10
Nite, Katy!!!
burnspbesq @ 12
Ones dead, the other Serbian.
Good night, sweet katymine.
God bless you.
Petrocelli @ 16
Stranger, what’s a brewing?!!!
Oliver Stone said it perfectly in his letter to the Iranians:
“I wish the Iranian people well, and only hope their experience with an inept, rigid ideologue president goes better than ours.”
-GSD
smapdi @ 23
oh!
Smapdi takes the round!
What can be said? Demagogues are all alike.They’ll always be a little bit gogue but mostly demi.
TRex @ 20
Dammit TRex, if you keep hitting ‘em outta da park like this, the Braves are gonna sign you up !
TRex @ 20
That’s very good, but I don’t think it’s the answer I was looking for.
I think you were supposed to say “nooooo ….,” and I was supposed to say “neither do I.”
Or, “one got accepted and the other is on the waiting list.”
TRex @ 6
and the rest of us too.
howdy trex! and thanks for the laugh.
burnspbesq @ 12
One is an evil megalomaniac intent on wiping out his Muslim enemies, the other is dead.
Nice riddle.
I love it when people make up riddles. Even when they are really good riddles, it still reminds me of eighth grade, in a good way.
Thanks, TRex.
CTuttle @ 25
I greeted ya in the last thread, in EPU-land … been busy with work and family commitments … trying to commit the whole lot o’ them … *g*
TeddySanFran @ 33
You’re entirely welcome.
*smooch*
persiflage @ 31
G’day! But, it still could apply to either one…!!! 8-)
persiflage @ 31
Persi hits a six!
TRex @ 35
**giggle**
shrub, Iran-shrub - twinsies with nukes (well, at least one of ‘em has nukes)
…each as good as the other for a good ole-fashioned brush fire…
just in case I’m the only one awake in the DC area, let me tell you folks that there are some military planes that have been circling noisily around in the sky for about the last 30 minutes.
God knows what they’re up to, but I hope it’s not nookyuler.
If it is…..well, ya heard it HERE. Please, make a movie about me or something.
burnspbesq @ 12
One hides from the U.S. Military and one hides behind the U.S. Military !
Petrocelli @ 34
Et Tu? 707!
Y’know — there’s an awful symmetry if Ahmedinejad was one of the hostage-takers, and Shrub’s consigliere James Baker III was the negotiator keeping them captive until St Ronnie’s inaugural day.
A truly awful symmetry.
oddmommy @ 40
well, at least we could probably count on shrub not nuking the city he’s currently in…
all i can say is, i really can’t wait until Ahmadinejad is safely back in teheran.
because anything that might “happen” to him until then will wind up giving the bushites all the casus bellis they want.
Oldmommy, nothing breaking in the news dept.
As of yet.
-GSD
oddmommy @ 40
Cool! A whole new slate of congress critters and supremes…!!!
dmg @ 45
You mean like a “regrettable malfunction” during a New York Air National Guard “training exercise” right about the time his 747 climbs out of JFK?
No tinfoil hat here. Just a headband.
GSD @ 46
Odd, not Old, GSD, duck!!!
Thanks Teddy. Just the image I want in my head at 1 AM. evil symmetry
oddmommy @ 40
What kind of military planes? Is it the whoosh and roar of fighter jets or the low drone of big cargo planes?
dmg @ 45
I was surprised Shrub didn’t bomb Tehran after the Columbia Q&A. Certainly was enough provocation. /s
Incidentally, Secretary Rice is weighing more sanctions against Iran.
Whoof.
Must be that concrete dust in my eyes.
So sorry.
-GSD
really, this is some creepy ass shit….used to happen after 9/11.
oh well, probably just a bunch of Top Guns out joyriding…..but I wish they’d put the fuckin mufflers on already.
oddmommy @ 40
oddly, walking across midtown, i was just thinking about “Failsafe” this afternoon.
CTuttle @ 36
G’day mate. I did consider that, was going to say “one’s under the ground” but, as they keep Dick in a bunker, that wouldn’t have worked either.
Why is it that people in media and political office think it is appropriate to treat the president of Iran like the 19th hijacker or something?
oddmommy @ 54
Maybe it is Bush and Condi taking their new propeller hats out for a spin.
-GSD
Larry Hagman looks just like my dad in that movie.
TeddySanFran @ 52
and soon, possibly tomorrow, kyl/lieberman amendment on iran will come up for a vote. bah.
and will somebody please tell me wtf columbia was doing having ahmadinejad over for a chat? the university prez actually winds up making that nutbag look good.
David Olsen @ 57
Because America has become a pack of childish, self righteous assholes with no regard for anyone else on the planet.
-GSD
burnspbesq @ 37
Why thankyew Burns! Darn, just as I actually gather a compliment, I gotta go. Following Suzanne’s lead I’m off ta get my hair chopped off.
Every time I think about Bush and Ahmadinejad, I remember that episode of “Star Trek” with Frank Gorshin playing the two half-white, half-black faced guys …
David Olsen @ 57
no matter what we think of iran’s current president… he represents a people who’s reaction to 911 was to spontaneously vigil for the victims. we owe them some respect.
TRex @ 51
Guess it’s more like a low drone. But whatever they are they are fucking CIRCLING the sky over these innocent Virginia suburbs.
Those sound like cargo planes, which probably means a unit is shipping out tonight from one of the bases around there. Those big C-130’s aren’t fast or graceful, but they’ll haul a whole lot of shit a really long way.
burnspbesq @ 64
Every time I see a conflict, whether between two people or two ideologies, I remember that episode.
dmg @ 60
It started out as a good idea, but then Columbia took a huge amount of heat for it, and the best idea the president could come up with to deflect all the criticism was to be an absolute asshole in his introduction — to the point that A*PAC actually sent it to its members in an email.
~~~ModNote: Edited for content to clear filters.~~~
On a brighter note, it could be the sound of a platoon coming home.
GSD @ 46
Dood, those are laugh lines …
(runs into bomb shelter)
GSD @ 62
I find it disgusting when Iran and Iraq had nothing to do with 911, yet, they’re the principal beneficiaries of Shrub’s malevolence! The media has us so brainwashed the Lake has bought into the hype! I did like one question asked of Ahminejad, what about the Baha’is and gays’ treatment in Iran…! I’m a Baha’i, folks, and we’ve been summarily rounded up and executed by the Iranians since ‘79!!! 8-(
persiflage @ 63
Bye, Persi!!!
oddmommy @ 54
We didn’t hear any tonight, but we were hearing them for the past several nights. A friend of mine who works at the Pentagon said they’re F-16s out of Andrews AFB (flying circuits, maybe? I don’t remember exactly what he said, and we were at a bachelor party, so I didn’t get a chance to discuss it at length. :-)
Still creeps me out, too.
night all. eyes having trouble staying open.
selise @ 65
If you talk to the Persians, you will hear that Bush’s misadventure in Iraq has made Mahmoud
more powerful and put them at a disadvantage … and Bush claims to be their friend …
TRex @ 69
Maybe if we think and wish and hope and pray it might come true …
actually, i don’t think i’m submitting to brainwashing when i say i’m no fan of someone who makes the statements he does concerning israel and speaks at a conference of holocaust deniers.
but that’s just me.
TexBetsy @ 74
Sleep well, Ma’am!!!
selise @ 65
We had some nice vigils after 9/11 too. Then we reelected shrub. I doubt the people doing the vigilizing were Iran-shrub’s supporters… nor were most of those who honored the dead in New York City. shrub and Iran-shrub’s base were too busy cowering in some hole somewhere.
TexBetsy @ 74
Goodnight, Betsy.
dmg @ 60
Free speech, baby. It’s not always April Fresh™, but it’s part of any healthy democracy. I’m really proud of Columbia for having the stones to bring him in. This is the problem with American thinking these days, “We can’t talk to them, they’re EEEEEEEEEE-vil!!”
Never mind that when you drag the bogeyman out into the light, he’s just an unkempt little whack job in a wrinkled blazer. This is the whole problem with Bush foreign policy. They don’t do nuance. But dealing with the Middle East is incredibly complex.
Putting the best minds in the Bush administration to work on foreign policy is still like trying to thread a needle wearing boxing gloves.
TexBetsy @ 74
Wishing you pain- free sleep, Betsy !
Petrocelli @ 75
makes sense… it’s not unusual that when people feel threatened, they will rally ’round a demagogue (at least that’s what recent history here in the usa has taught me).
People laughed in Ahmadinejad’s face today. You heard that, right? When he said there are no homosexuals in Iran, the whole crowd just spontaneously guffawed. Even his supporters there couldn’t keep a straight face.
dmg @ 77
Sorry, but many have spouted the MSM’s TP’s and I find it disheartening, I’m certainly no defender of him, yet, I see no reason to deny him access to Ground Zero or Columbia University!!!
selise @ 65
More than that, he comes from a culture that could produce an Omar Kayyam, a Rumi, a Hafez. We should be big enough to extend basic courtesy , treat a head of state with dignity, allow him to make a graceful gesture and to say his piece.
I think I’m going to grab my iPod, my copy of Charlie Savage’s book, and a bottle of water and head off to bed.
Goodnight, everyone.
“Keep hope alive.”
TREX!!!!!!
Oops, sorry! Just got here!
Night, burnsy.
TRex @ 84
yes, it was great.
burnspbesq @ 87
Amen! Nite, Burns!!!
TRex @ 81
would that it were so. me, i’m thinking that an ivy league institution has just conferred acceptance into the mainstream of scholarly review the concept of holocaust denial.
PLUS, lee bollinger acted so badly that he made ahmadinejad look like the civil one.
Speaking of the brightside, the monks in Burma seem to be ok so far. (painting meticulous mandala on floor with sand for good luck)
burnspbesq @ 88
G’nite dude … I’m off as well, gotta finish this book in time for the Bob Marley Fest, right CT ?!! *g*
G’nite all !
burnspbesq @ 87
the book is very good. VERY good.
In conversations and speeches on TV, he always comes across as profoundly polite, reasonable, and respectful, in a way that George W. Bush never does.
I don’t know if the charges dealing with anti-semitism and lack of freedom in his country have a great deal to do with things such as history and culture that are outside of his control.
Does he do anything to hurt Jewish people? I don’t feel that the government of Israel deserves great respect or tolerance, considering its massive and immoral oppression of the Palestinian people.
George W. Bush, however, I know to actively work every day to harm people. He might as well drive in his limo to the projects every day so he can personally spit in the faces of the poor.
I heard a quote from Bush about the Ahmadinejad visit on the radio earlier that I found pretty amusing, but I haven’t been able to find it transcribed anywhere yet. Basically, it sounded like he hadn’t made up his mind whether to jump in with the right-wing attack squad or talk about our glorious freedoms, so he said something like: “This is a demonstration of the great freedom of speech we have in this country. I don’t know if I agree with it, but…”
I wish I could find the exact wording, because it came out sounding like Bush was saying he didn’t agree with that whole freedom of speech business — a bit of unintentional honesty!
shrub: OBL attacked us on 9/11, Afghanistan must be destroyed
Iran-shrub: Israel is an insult to Islam, it must be destroyed
shrub: Saddam attacked us on 9/11 and he has nukes, Iraq must be destroyed
Iran-shrub: Gays are an insult to Islam, they must be persecuted
shrub: Gays are an insult to Christianity; they must be persecuted
Iran-shrub: the Holocaust never occurred
shrub: Iran-shrub attacked us on 9/11 or would have had he bothered to think about it and they have nukes, Iran must be destroyed
…OK, it’s kinda hard to see who has the moral highground when they’re both standing knee-deep in a toxic swamp
at the same time that ahmadinejad was at columbia today, lieberman and kyl were on the senate floor ranting about how everyone should support their anti-iranian amendment.
now, after that, how can i condemn iranians for having an apparently crazy person in their goverment:?
Petrocelli @ 94
Nite, Mi Amigo!!!
dmg @ 77
I am no expert. However I do think Juan Cole is a balanced source and he puts quite a few “interpretations” in their proper false light, fwiw..
And hey dmg, good to see you..)
selise @ 100
I think we should send Lieberman to make a speech at Tehran University.
He could tell them we don’t have any gays in the United States–at least, in the Republican Party.
Anon @ 96
interesting. intentionally or otherwise, the construct here would cast someone who disdains ahmadinejad as a supporter of bush.
i suppose it’s too far a stretch to have contempt for both of them.
it’s not my intention to get into a dispute. Anon concedes he isn’t coming from the same place i am where perspective on th iranian president’s relentless hatemongering of israel — no different in feeding his base than bush is in feeding his — is concerned. but fdl used to be able to handle a bit of disagreement.
waving my wings.
good evening, all.
TRex @ 84
When he said that, I thought he was being sarcastic at first, but no. He’s as delusional as Bush and the righties who swear the earth is only 6,000 years old.
tip o the cap to you, eureka, on the way out.
Or send Bush, it would be comedy gold. Bush can’t even manage to hold an unstaged press conference in the United States let alone in the Middle East. At least Ahmadinejad has some intelligence.