Rudy Giuliani is a hypocrite who thinks he should live by rules different than others. He attacked MoveOn.org and the New York Times for the rate charged for a newspaper ad. Promptly, he ran an ad in response and paid....wait for it....the SAME amount.
Since the NYT says it was a mistake that they were charged the lower amount, MoveOn promptly paid the difference in an 'abundance of caution'. Rudy refuses to.
The wingnuts filed an FEC complaint against MoveOn and the NYT, but didn't include Rudy. That oversight has now been corrected:
General Counsel
Federal Election Commission
999 E. Street, NW
Washington, DC 20463Dear Counsel:
This is a formal complaint against the Rudy Giuliani Presidential Committee, Inc. for the receipt of corporate soft money contribution in excess of the limits established by the Federal Elections Campaign Act of 1971 and the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002. The information in this complaint is derived from publicly available reports on the internet and falls under 2 U.S.C. 441 B and 11 CFR S 114.2.
In response to an advertisement purchased by Moveon.org Political Action on September 19, 2007, the Giuliani Campaign purchased an advertisement to run in the September 14 publication of the New York Times. Both Moveon.org Political Action and the Giuliani Campaign paid $64,575 for their respective ads. This ad quote is known as the 'standby rate' because the day of publication and its placement are not guaranteed.
In a September 23, 2007 newspaper column, Public Editor of the New York Times, Clark Hoyt, admitted that the New York Times made a mistake in charging MoveOn.org the standby rate:
Catherine Mathis, vice president of corporate communications for The Times, said, "We made a mistake." She said the advertising representative failed to make it clear that for that rate The Times could not guarantee the Monday placement but left MoveOn.org with the understanding that the ad would run then. She added, "That was contrary to our policies."
MoveOn.org responded to the column by saying this on September 23:
Now that the Times has revealed this mistake for the first time, and while we believe that the $142,083 figure is above the market rate paid by most organizations, out of an abundance of caution we have decided to pay that rate for this ad. We will therefore wire the $77,083 difference to the Times...
In the same column, Mr. Hoyt has this to say about the advertisement purchased by Mr. Giuliani:
In the fallout from the ad, Rudolph Giuliani, the former New York mayor and a Republican presidential candidate, demanded space in the following Friday's Times to answer MoveOn.org. He got it — and at the same $64,575 rate that MoveOn.org paid.
According to the New York Times' own policy, Mr. Giuliani should have paid the fixed-date rate instead of the standby rate. Therefore, the difference, $77,083 is an in-kind corporate contribution, which far exceeds the limits allowed by law. Now that he has knowledge that his campaign is in receipt of an illegal $77,083 contribution from the New York Times, it is incumbent on Mr. Giuliani to repay the difference. If he does not, that is not just a violation of the law but a betrayal of the public trust at a time when Americans want integrity from our leaders.
When Mr. Giuliani's campaign was called on to pay the difference, therefore avoiding a violation of law, his campaign declined to do so.
Respectfully submitted,
Lane Hudson
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damn stupid browser bounced all over me, though…
Excellent post Lane.
The closer you get to any of these repub candidates the worse the stench.
And, um, that’s ONE SWEET STINGER on Lane Hudson’s part!! “77K in illegal donations, should be returned…”
YES!
RonD @ 1
Congrats - now please tell me what Queen is your employer. I must have missed something along the way.
Right on Lane!
Thats a beautiful way to not only cost Ghouliani some bucks but the media mileage from that is awesome.
Lane!
Great post.
nice letter
Go, Lane Hudson!
Yep, this is Giuliani Time!
The YouTube video of the movie preview is worth watching.
*is slightly embarrassed to note that the poster is the same as the letter writer*
But in any case SWEET! You go, you!
Has anybody noticed how Rudy Giuliani is getting to look more and more like Riff-Raff from The Rocky Horror Picture Show?
I know this question is off-topic, but I couldn’t help asking.
Great letter. Let’s get all the dirt we can on Rudy and use it every day. Thanks
Wonderful letter. Your logic is flawless. Their hypocrisy is appalling. Will the Commission do anything about this? Nah.
Amadou Diallo
Patrick Dorismond
Abner Louima
The names most associated with “Giuliani Time”.
As a rock-sold radical liberal Democrat, I fully support Mr. Giuliani being the Republican nominee for prez.
Twain @ 6
The Queen: She Who Must Be Obeyed.
Actual identities will be left as an exercise for the class. Speaking of which…I’m late. Good day everyone…see you later.
Skewer him once for me, ok?
dakine01 @ 16
I like it that you remind us all the time about these three people. They are worth remembering.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 17
I’m sure he’ll find that comforting.
Lane, well done. I love your “back in yer face, Rudy!” attitude. This is exactly what’s needed.
Thanks for doing the legwork on this, Lane. Fair is fair. If Rudy doesn’t pay the difference, then MoveOn is entitled to a refund. They should both pay the same amount for the same product. If Rudy gets a Monday placement for a standby rate, that’s fine. If MoveOn gets a Monday placement for a standby rate there’s nothing wrong with that either. It is that simple, right?
This wingnut sh*t is over the top. Thanks again.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 17
Me, too, OKk.
Rudy is pure GOP dirty laundry. And I want him aired.
Twain @ 18
They are anchors around Rudy’s neck, no matter how he may protest the fact.
Lane - this is too good! In my wildest fictional thinking, I could not make up this stuff. It’s the kind of thing that makes one laugh and cry simultaneously. I need dark chocolate, again. Or at least lunch. And in the back ground I can hear Susan Collins mucking through her address.
Rules are for the little people.
Bravo Lane!
Once again, you nailed it!
Nice letter/post well done however I cannot believe that you have not been made aware of the “we don’ obey no stinkin laws” gooper mantra.
And every time he brings up 9/11 somebody needs to point out the personal fortune he’s made by exploiting it. I think it’s absolutely ridiculous that he’s made tens of millions just from being a do-nothing recipient of our collective gratitude for whatever he didn’t actually do during 9/11. It’s un-American. This man shouldn’t be a candidate. He should be in jail.. as a schiester confidence man.
I’m with OKK. CreepyG for the Republican Candidate.
We can’t loose.
I personally don’t care if he has a penchant for cross dressing, but I don’t think the bible belt will get behind that.
(whatever works, I say)
Not good for Republicans: If NYT doesn’t treat MoveOn fairly and refund the difference so that Rudy and MoveOn pay the same rate, then the libruls are going to go nuts and send MoveOn another million dollars.
hackworth @ 32
awwwww
(they get to a million yet?)
BTW, Lane:
Damn good letter!
and has ghouliani gave the difference in cost as moveon did?? hmmmm no outcry from the wingers ehhh huh
TexBetsy @ 33
I think almost 2 mill by now. They blew past 1 mil the first day and were shooting for a second the next day…
laws are for liberals
Gotta love it when a wingnut’s arrogant self-righteous outrage comes back and bites him on the ass.
Karma is a bitch.
A hundred thousand citizens at 10 bucks each is a million dollars. You can get 10 Lindsay Graham rugs at the Iraqi Flea Market or you can send MoveOn ten bucks to fight the fascisti.
peanutbutter @ 36
They don’t have any new figures up. Can’t wait to find out.
HoJo on C-SPAN 3, raving about how the current political process is loaded against moderates like, uh, like Joe…
Ed*ard Teller @ 41
Alls well in Bizzaro World.
i’m still waiting for dem leaders to give joemo the gate but of course that’d be a gutsy move and they dont have any…
I’m sorry. Lindsay is a girl’s name. The Senator who knows a good deal on rugs when he sees one is Lindsey. Lindsey Graham - Fahve rugs fer fahve bucks.
Ed*ard Teller @ 41
HoJo’s not a moderate. When you co-host Sean Hannity’s freedom concert with wingnuts, you forfeit the right to call yourself a moderate.
hackworth @ 44
Actually it’s either. I had a male uncle and cousins named Lindsay before the female cousins were also named Lindsay.
Well I’m shocked that he would be this way.
jo6pac
Ed*ard Teller @ 41
Can a senator be moderate and a right-wing warmongering corporatist at the same time?
hackworth @ 48
Only if you can get him diagnosed with Multiple Personality Disorder, I think.
dakine01 @ 46
Yep:
Lindsay Waters: male, executive editor at Harvard U Press
Lindsay Lohan: female actress (’nuf said)
hackworth @ 48
Depends on the beholer don’t ya think?
Fry ‘em and then dry ‘em in the sunshine. This is really much too easy. Rightwingers are a truly pathetic lot these days…
[Mod Note; that’s in a metaphorical way, Right?]
Biodun @ 50
Oh, you said RUGS. . .never minds!
Mr. Giuliani could run on the “variety is the spice of life platform”. What say all you family values types?
OT of Guilianni and MoveOn, but What About Joe..
There’s this article on Buzzflash related to the Lieberman/Kyl amendment.
What I wanna know is why they are going to vote on this so quickly?
james k. sayre @ 52
It’s hard to have a realistic sense of perspective when you don’t have a conscience (or, for tha matter, a soul).
hackworth @ 48
No. But Joe-Lie tries hard. He’s said he’s a liberal on domestic issues, like civil rights, social issues, and so on. Anyone knows where he stands on same-sex marriage/civil unions? Do I care? No. Do I dislike the man? yes.
But not as much as I detest Giuliani. I can’t wait for him to be the Repug nominee. As I’ve said before: To quote the Klingons: “It’ll be glorious.”
Rude Rudy or Fearless Fred. Take your pick. I don’t care. I am salivating at the prospect.
dakine01 @ 46
Since you are familiar with the name, do you know if the spelling variants are different for males and females? I wrote Lindsay and IIRC, the Senator’s name is spelled Lindsey. I could be wrong. Though the female Lindsay might be appropriate for the Senator, too.
Biodun @ 57
You mean like Katrina?
Sorry for remaining off-topic, but, watching Ted Stevens on C-SPAN 3, I thought RealPlayer was clicking in and out again, but it turns out it is the way St. Ted is speaking. He’s closer to the end than most think…
Blub @ 30
He needs to go out just like his mentor Boss Tweed went out. We can call him Boss Judi.
hackworth @ 59
I just know that in my family all the Lindsays, male and female are spelled the same way (with an a).
hackworth @ 59
I think it’s all interchangeable. I’ve known Lindseys who are girls.
The mayor of NY was John Linds_y when I was a kid, but I don’t know how he spelled it.
hackworth @ 59
The spelling varaints are not gender-based. I also know female Lindseys…
isn’t ghouliani running as america’s wearing thin these days?? the firefighters have already called him out on that…those of us on the east coast know him better and we’re not buying his best on terror bullshit!
And as for Mitt? I’m smitten. Who wouldn’t be for the one who buys straw vote elections and sends his sons not into Iraq, but onto the dangerous political cocktail weenie battle fields that are the GOP mainstay.
Twain @ 60
oddmommy @ 64
He spelled it with an e, but that was the last name rather than as a first name.
Biodun @ 57
Short Ride Lieberman got that moniker for voting to continue to fund Catholic Hospitals that refuse to issue emergency contraception. The sympathetic HoJo noted that its just a short ride to another hospital. Nice one.
If you have a world propelling itself to war, domestic politics don’t mean much.
Ah, John Lindsay, former Mayor of NYC and one of the original “beautiful people”… He and his wife Mary were darlings of the NYC social circuit. Those were the halcyon days of the city, Manhattan, when I was young.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 54
I keep remembering when I hear ‘family values’ that the Borgia and the Manson Family had ‘values’.
And Howie Kurtz today (I first typed ‘toady’, but will restrain self) said “The New York Post was right after all; the New York Times did give MoveOn a discount and wasn’t straight about it. Ombudsman Clark Hoyt nails the paper here.” http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....298_4.html
As far as the MSM goes, that settles it.
Biodun @ 72
Oops. Or I might be an id10t.
When I think of Lindsay I think of Mark Lindsay of Paul Revere and the Raiders.
(Sorry for the OT but it’s been a long day.)
I want to hear much more about Bernie and Rudy.
More money troubles for the Rudy;
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Full article here.
MR. Bill @ 73
I think the most common nickname is “Hacktacular Howie”. That or Mr Conflict of Interest (since his wife works for the Rs)
Blub @ 30
can you believe the Ghoul even brought up 9/11 at the NRA? (before Mrs Ghoul showed up on the cellphone, I guess).
Apparently, if the people in the World Trade Center had had rifles, they could have defended themselves against those planes.
You are slime, Rudy…..filthy, oozing slime…….and you are circling the drain…..down which the sewer of obscurity hungrily awaits you.
John Lindsay.
Giuliani/Lieberman. The fascist ticket.
Biodun @ 72
Koch was in when I lived there.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 81
Geeez You didn’t have to bring that one up. Good thing I had fortified myself with my daily piece of dark chocolate. :)
Okay, it’s Monday afternoon and I’m tired of all this anxiety about the state of the world. Let’s play a little game:
Which would be worse?
Giuliana/Lieberman
or
Mussolini/Franco
Hypothetically of course.
oddmommy @ 79
Frank Zappa I am the slime in honor of Rudy.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 81
well, at least we’d have a third party.
kind of like the republican version of the Green party. PukeGreen.
I am doing my little happy dance
I already got a snotty letter from the Public(sic) Editor of the Times about this.
Just think of all the fun y’all will have when Rudy has the Repug nomination. I mean, y’all are having fun now. But just you wait. I promise. I promise. Again: There’s no dearth of material on this guy.
Well done Lane.
SufiLizard @ 84
Well, Mussolini’s big plus supposedly was that he got the trains to run on time….
TexBetsy @ 33
1.6 million, as of this afternoon.
1,508 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND..
Citizen Hudson and the Firepup Patriots:
Holy Shit…here we go again with a diversionary faggot hassle over an advertisement that tells the truth (Dan Rather anyone). While everyone is focused on Move On as they are isolated and pummeled by the fascists and their fellow travelers in the Democratic Party, the calculated campaign to make a cartoon outta Iran’s political leader and whip up the Brownshirts in the streets, goez on apace.
The progressive movement must organize behind Move On and put pressure on the DEMOCRATS in the Congress (Senate AND House) to create pressure to get an anti-war consensus statement from the Democratic candidates. Move On ken take care of itself with regard to attacks like the “Betrayus” brouhaha…they will even make money in the street over this. No, let’s forget about runnin’ after every administration Bushfire set off at the start of every news cycle and keep the heat on the fuckin’ DEMOCRATS. The leading candidates for President on the Democratic side must be made to understand that there is a price to be paid in attacking the base of the Democratic Party.
I guess what I’m sayin is, it’s time to create an anti-fascists anti-war movement and force the Democratic Party to choose between a democratic mass movement or payin to fascist donors. Forget about impeachment, investigations of Bush criminality or congressional melodramas, everything, and I mean EVERYTHING (healthcare, taxes, Social Security…) is about the war. And we focus on the Democrats don’t waste time on ANYone else.
The fascist coup has been in place for 6 years and the consolidation of power is happening right before our eyes…our only hope is to save what’s left of the Democratic Party, give it a mass base to ride on. If we get to a third party movement, we’re dead…remember the zen master teacher for these American fascists, Adolph Hitler, came to power in a 1/3-1/3-1/3 split and then divided the remainin 66% against each other over patriotism and religion (the commies vrs. the Christians). Make no mistake, the grandfathers of the current American oligarchy like Prescott Bush studied Hitler’s tactics and were usin’ ‘em in this country but FDR fucked ‘em up.
So let’s find a way to show the Democratic leadership that Move On represents the mass of folks out here by donating to Move On and tellin the DCCC and the DNC that every dime you were gunna give now goez to Move On or directly to any Democrat who opposed the censure. If you send the next couple a solicitations from the DCCC, DSCC and DNC back with that message, they’ll get the point.
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION, THE WAR HAS ALREADY BEEN DECLARED ON US!!
Mussolini/Franco:
Not possible. Unless Italy and Spain merged their countries since last time I checked.
Nemo @ 91
Here’s a link where you can see the running MoveOn donation total since the Senate decided to condemn free speech.
https://pol.moveon.org/donate/donate.html
And you can also make a donation on the same page (hint, hint)…
Excellent letter! I trust you cc’d the NYT editor and editorial board?
The exact number for MoveOn donations right now is $1,674,282.87.
Biodun @ 88
Wait until you see all the stuff they got on him to dish out after he wins the nomination. Heh
The Public Editor (sic) also declined to speak about the personal attacks in Giuliani’s ad.
hackworth @ 48
Depends on what the definition of “moderate” is.
I’m continually struck by the fact that in Europe, what would be a flaming liberal in the beltway’s eyes is a centrist there…
ccmask @ 97
Do you think any of his fellow candidates will use it during this period of time? Do they have it? I’m sure Freddie wouldn’t hesitate to use anything he can get.
Toby Wollin @ 90
He tended to execute anyone who said otherwise, of course.
Now where have I seen that tactic (perhaps more metaphorically) lately…?
Oklahoma kiddo @ 76
Mee too! I still enjoy remembering the “overlapping marriages” phraseology when Bernie’s marriage #1 was disclosed late in the confirmation fiasco. I was keeping a list and it was item 17. There’s bound to be more -
Thuggery/Fuckery, Inc.
OT:
Romney has been running the following ad in Iowa: Romney Ad in Iowa
I cannot believe the stupidity he is portraying here. Blames all of the GOP troubles on “Acting like Democrats”. Bwwwwawwwwww. I smell some desperation.
Biodun @ 93
I said hypothetical, you have to use your imagination a little. Geez!
Labor Unions to Democrats in an Ohio town
“you’ve screwed us over for the last time”
http://www.cantonrep.com/index.....tegoryID=0
katherine Graham Cracker @ 105
AP - Thousands of United Auto Workers walked off the job at General Motors plants around the country Monday in the first nationwide strike against the U.S. auto industry since 1976.
Workers unite!
1,608 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND..
Citizen xyz:
“The exact number for Move On donations right now is $1,674,282.87.”
No it ain’t…LOL…they jest got my gas money fer next week!
KEEP THE FAITH SOMETHIN BIG IS HAPPENIN HERE!!
SufiLizard @ 104
Honestly, I think they would have done each other in if ever yoked together. Dictators tend to like to work alone, I’ve noticed ;-) Neither of them were kingmakers/powers behind the throne types like Cheney…
NorskeFlamethrower @ 108
$1,674,282.87, I’m cryin’ in my beer
hi Lane!
Great letter. You’re becoming the progressive movement’s FEC Complaint Guy. Hurray~!
katherine Graham Cracker @ 98
Can we read the letter?
As long as the issue of campaign financing remains untouched we will get the likes of Rudy, Hillary and Obama and the rest. All second and third rate. At best.
1,608 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN GOEZ ON AND ON…
Citizen newstime and the Firepup Patriots:
“The onus is on the New York Times to keep the rate established in it’s deal with move on, not with MoveOn to pay an additional fee.”
Of course, but who the fuck cares…anymore time and effort spent parsin out this con game jest keeps energy and resources away from the real battle and that’s what the fascists want. So MOVE ON, kid don’t feed the beast.
KEEP THE FAITH AND KEEP YER EYES ON THE PRIZE!!!
Mr. Ghouliani is a fascist thug. I am still haunted by an incident in New York when he was mayor.
In 1999, in the aftermath of the vile, horrific murder of a gay college student, Matthew Shepard in Wyoming, there was a peaceful procession down Fifth Avenue in protest of the contemptible, hateful act. I was on my way home from work in a cab crossing west on 23rd Street. As I passed Fifth, the south side of the avenue was cordoned off. Literally hundreds of NYPD in full riot gear stood four deep, curb to curb, armed to the quick in the twilight. Their rear flank was covered by walls of mounted carabinieri, also in riot gear. It was like that Bruce Willis picture when the military takes over Manhattan. Overboard, overkill and horrifying. The same pastiche as the aftermath of 9/11.
Meanwhile, Ghouliani was probably in some hotel room banging one of his mistresses while his wife and children were having dinner at Gracie Mansion.
If there is anything worse than the Butcher of Crawford it is surely Rudolph Ghouliani.
peanutbutter @ 108
Okay, never mind. I guess this isn’t the right crowd for that sort of thing.
Sorry.
It may be slightly OT, but I want to say a big “Thank you — you guys rock” to MoveOn.
I am one of the thousands who joined last week.
This morning, I got an email asking me to call my Congressperson about the SCHIP re-authorization. Nice. What was even nicer, was that it was formatted with a link to my specific Congressperson’s DC office phone number, so I could just click on the link and dial the call from my cell phone while sitting in morning rush hour traffice.
So the truly horrible Ed Royce got a call from me this morning. It won’t be the last, even though these call are undoubtedly a complete waste of time.
Well done, people.
Perhaps we SHOULD form a third political party. And call it the Democratic Party.
Norske is right. Progressives must use the democratic party as their political vehicle. We will only get fooled by fake progressives part of the time. Eventually, progressives (60’s moderates)will overtake the party.
SufiLizard @ 114
Gosh, I did try to use my imagination! :-P
The ol’ brane shut right down on Guiliani/Lieberman, and so moved on to the much more thinkable thing ;-)
You have to be a billionaire to make the Forbes list. Billionaires need to pay more taxes to pay for their war.
Dear Reader,
When Mr. Hoyt or I write something, we sign our name. We affix who we are to the things we say, whether in praise or in criticism. And if we insult someone we absolutely sign our name instead of hiding behind anonymity.
If you would like to make this criticism a little less vague so that I can tell what specifically it is you are criticizing, then I will be happy to look into it.
Sincerely,
Michael McElroy
Office of the Public Editor
The New York Times
Note: The public editor’s opinions are his own and do not represent those of The New York Times.
katherine katherinegrahamcracker@moremoney.net
09/24/2007 10:39 AM To
cc
Subject let me know when you rebill rudy for his ad and smack him down for personal attacks
I hve substituted my sceen name for my name which as you can tell appeared right there.
hackworth @ 120
but being a billionaire doesn’t necessarily get you on the list
hackworth @ 119
Not any more. I’m told they left off 82 billionaires from the last list.
*jaw drops*
We are mired in the ‘cut tax and spend party’ (the Republicans) and the ‘do nothing party’ (the Democratic Party). And I am told we have no room for other political parties. Sez who? The Democrats and the Republicans. That’s who.
peanutbutter @ 118
:-) No offense, I just didn’t expect my little thought experiment to be taken quite so seriously. Of course it could never happen.
It would be kind of like asking “what if the whole world was made out of green jell-o?” expecting to get comments about how difficult it would be to walk, or how the jiggling would make it impossible to build stable structures, etc.
But instead you get comments from physicists about how it would be impossible because there isn’t enough pectin in the world to create that much jell-o, or that the gravity would cause it to collapse in on itself, etc.
My comment was a silly comment to begin with, not really worth all this discussion about it. Let’s just drop it and go give some more money to MoveOn.
katherine Graham Cracker @ 121
McElroy’s a bit bitchy there!
thanks for sharing the reply.
peanutbutter @ 122
I read that the cut-off was $1.3 billion net worth
Wonder if we’ll be having the same discussions five years from now (providing of course we haven’t blown ourselves up)?
where’s dean during all this sturm and drung/drang? all i get is mail from dccc and dlc - why ? i have no idea but dean has been silent during all the moveon drama…anyone know why?
*xyz @ 94
Ok, just for you guys. I’m in.
$1,676,652.87
Do you think that Rudy the Republican is a friend of working men and women, or that the DLC’s chosen candidate is?
juslin @ 129
he’s been around
Newsweek
Interesting…
Just got an email from Boxer pimping her latest amendment:
Sounds like partition to me?
I would much rather have heard from her about the Lieberman-Kyl amendment.
ohhooo i dont read newsweek - got sick of them awhile ago anyhoo interesting to see what dean’s been up to…
Well… Lahoma is asking if I’m interested in helping her fix supper. She says she has thoughts on politics. Bye bye for now.
OT
Sorry Condi, they’re just not into you anymore.
snip
snip
http://thinkprogress.org/
Hey everybody! I just got back from the FEC….long trek on the Metro System and back.
Thanks for the comments!
juslin @ 134
that’s why I noted the source ;)
Lane Hudson @ 137
Thank you.
New Thread Upstairs: Can I Hear A…
rice has never been a fave of darth vader… she was chosen b/c bushco’s daddy likes her and she’s one of the oil people…cheney never liked her
Brilliant move, Lane.
Kudo’s.
Lane Hudson @ 137
You mean you hand-deliver your FEC complaints? How cool is that!
Bustednuckles @ 42
I have not read all the comments on this thread, but speaking of Joe and the FEC, whatever happened to the complaint about Joe’s $400K spent to buy votes and pay for his “volunteers” in Nov. 06 and not itemized in his FEC pre-election reports?
This is why I love MoveOn, and will never criticize them.
Oops, I just realized Lane Hudson is just a blogger and doesn’t work for MoveON. Now his blog is on my Favorites list.
TPM is saying that Tom Davis (eww-VA) is asking for an investigation of this affair. He seems to think that MoveOn’s ad was a campaign ad. But he isn’t asking for them to investigate Giuliani’s ad, which probably was a campaign ad.
Thanks for the comments!TeddySanFran @ 143
Yep, Teddy! I hand deliver them. The only other option is to put ‘em in the mail. How boring would that be?
Maybe one of these days the FEC will come into the 21st Century and allow us to file these things online.
Lane Hudson isLane Hudson @ 148
Lane- You rule dude
Yes keep at it Lane! We need people to file stuff in court. Small issues eventually add up to big ones.