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		<title>By: paul spencer</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/24/burying-the-truth-about-bush/#comment-994285</link>
		<dc:creator>paul spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 18:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I can only add an anecdote.  I was in the active Air Force Reserves, assigned to Bergstrom AFB, until Honorable Discharge in June 1968.  In the year after, I had two separate conversations with Airmen that I had met while in the Reserves.  Both conversations occured in accidental meetings - perhaps a grocery store or some such.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Both Airmen told me about a rumor that an Ivy League college grad with a politically-connected, oilman father in Houston was being passed up to the top of the list for National Air Guard service in order to avoid the possibility of service in Viet Nam.  Neither knew that I was a leftist radical, and the rest of the conversations were ‘howya doing?’ and ‘whatcha doing?’.  Both thought that any service person would probably be interested in this ‘rotten deal’.  By the end of the second conversation, the Airman remembered the guy’s name; George Bush.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can only add an anecdote.  I was in the active Air Force Reserves, assigned to Bergstrom AFB, until Honorable Discharge in June 1968.  In the year after, I had two separate conversations with Airmen that I had met while in the Reserves.  Both conversations occured in accidental meetings &#8211; perhaps a grocery store or some such.</p>
<p>Both Airmen told me about a rumor that an Ivy League college grad with a politically-connected, oilman father in Houston was being passed up to the top of the list for National Air Guard service in order to avoid the possibility of service in Viet Nam.  Neither knew that I was a leftist radical, and the rest of the conversations were ‘howya doing?’ and ‘whatcha doing?’.  Both thought that any service person would probably be interested in this ‘rotten deal’.  By the end of the second conversation, the Airman remembered the guy’s name; George Bush.</p>
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		<title>By: nikto</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/24/burying-the-truth-about-bush/#comment-994115</link>
		<dc:creator>nikto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 17:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;At least Dubya’s grandfather, PRESCOTT BUSH&lt;br /&gt;
didn’t loan million$$ to Hitler in 1941-42, and had to be stopped by an act of congress, which was, conveniently, not disclosed for years afterwards.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Gee, at least THAT didn’t really happen.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Oh, and RONALD REAGAN was a WOMAN!!!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least Dubya’s grandfather, PRESCOTT BUSH<br />
didn’t loan million$$ to Hitler in 1941-42, and had to be stopped by an act of congress, which was, conveniently, not disclosed for years afterwards.</p>
<p>Gee, at least THAT didn’t really happen.</p>
<p>Oh, and RONALD REAGAN was a WOMAN!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Anais</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/24/burying-the-truth-about-bush/#comment-994032</link>
		<dc:creator>Anais</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 16:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“The mainstream media played little initiative” is kind of the whole mantra for the past seven years, right? And the Democrats are doing little more since winning Congress. It’s just amazing to me that the GOP says something is true or false and everyone just agrees. No digging. No questioning. No research. No followup. I for one am aghast that everyone was just so scared on 9/11 that they have become accepting sycophants. That’s how democracy ends, folks. Not with a bang but a whimper.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“The mainstream media played little initiative” is kind of the whole mantra for the past seven years, right? And the Democrats are doing little more since winning Congress. It’s just amazing to me that the GOP says something is true or false and everyone just agrees. No digging. No questioning. No research. No followup. I for one am aghast that everyone was just so scared on 9/11 that they have become accepting sycophants. That’s how democracy ends, folks. Not with a bang but a whimper.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/24/burying-the-truth-about-bush/#comment-993853</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 14:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I personally did not believe the service records of both men was necessary to have been brought up in the 2004 election. But if it was to be brought up then we should have had an honest assessment of the service records, the equivalent of a simple “up or down vote”. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But what we got was not “Bush’s service record says this, Kerry’s says this, make up your own mind”, it was “Kerry is a lying phony who got medals under false pretenses then came home and betrayed the troops and who cares about Bush’s service record because the CBS memos were false and Dan Rather and Mary Mapes are liars!”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Unbelievable&lt;/em&gt;. It blows my mind, today, how the right wing noise machine played the media like a harp. I don’t know when the definitive story on the 2004 campaign will be written but it has to be.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally did not believe the service records of both men was necessary to have been brought up in the 2004 election. But if it was to be brought up then we should have had an honest assessment of the service records, the equivalent of a simple “up or down vote”. </p>
<p>But what we got was not “Bush’s service record says this, Kerry’s says this, make up your own mind”, it was “Kerry is a lying phony who got medals under false pretenses then came home and betrayed the troops and who cares about Bush’s service record because the CBS memos were false and Dan Rather and Mary Mapes are liars!”</p>
<p><em>Unbelievable</em>. It blows my mind, today, how the right wing noise machine played the media like a harp. I don’t know when the definitive story on the 2004 campaign will be written but it has to be.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Kunin</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/24/burying-the-truth-about-bush/#comment-993764</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Kunin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 12:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;For a while Rather ended his broadcasts with the word “courage”, something his father said was required. His career was courageous. He put himself in harm’s way often for news stories. It is surprising, therefore, that at the behest of his superiors he apologized for a story he knew was correct even if he could not prove beyond any doubt the documents were genuine as they apparently were. He cut the legs out from under his long time producer, Mapes, as well as from under himself. Maybe he had bad advice from a lawyer who saw a refusal as breach of contract and a lost 20 mil or maybe it was bad judgment. I wish him well in his lawsuit, but he’ll have to think of a good reason to justify a rather foolish apology.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a while Rather ended his broadcasts with the word “courage”, something his father said was required. His career was courageous. He put himself in harm’s way often for news stories. It is surprising, therefore, that at the behest of his superiors he apologized for a story he knew was correct even if he could not prove beyond any doubt the documents were genuine as they apparently were. He cut the legs out from under his long time producer, Mapes, as well as from under himself. Maybe he had bad advice from a lawyer who saw a refusal as breach of contract and a lost 20 mil or maybe it was bad judgment. I wish him well in his lawsuit, but he’ll have to think of a good reason to justify a rather foolish apology.</p>
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		<title>By: lysias</title>
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		<dc:creator>lysias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 12:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Charles Lane has the gall to teach journalism fraud at Georgetown University.  Yet not only does he see journalism fraud when it’s not there, he doesn’t see it when it is there: he accepted responsibility for running Charles Glass’s fraudulent pieces as editor of &lt;i&gt;The New Republic&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charles Lane has the gall to teach journalism fraud at Georgetown University.  Yet not only does he see journalism fraud when it’s not there, he doesn’t see it when it is there: he accepted responsibility for running Charles Glass’s fraudulent pieces as editor of <i>The New Republic</i>.</p>
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		<title>By: deandra</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/24/burying-the-truth-about-bush/#comment-993733</link>
		<dc:creator>deandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 12:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The Bush family creates fairy tales for their advantage and suckers Americans into accepting them.  How far back do you want to go?  Papa’s heroic war record as a fighter pilot during WWII (&lt;em&gt;he was frickin 17 years old&lt;/em&gt;) where his own dad (Prescott) had to pull some strings to get him a pilot’s position!  Then he wasn’t just a 17 year old pilot, but a &lt;em&gt;heroic&lt;/em&gt; fighter pilot!  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And Dubya’s illustrious dedication to the National Guard.  Who even remembers him as part of their unit? I’ve always believed the Dan Rather version.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Bush family creates fairy tales for their advantage and suckers Americans into accepting them.  How far back do you want to go?  Papa’s heroic war record as a fighter pilot during WWII (<em>he was frickin 17 years old</em>) where his own dad (Prescott) had to pull some strings to get him a pilot’s position!  Then he wasn’t just a 17 year old pilot, but a <em>heroic</em> fighter pilot!  </p>
<p>And Dubya’s illustrious dedication to the National Guard.  Who even remembers him as part of their unit? I’ve always believed the Dan Rather version.</p>
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		<title>By: Elyse</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/24/burying-the-truth-about-bush/#comment-993226</link>
		<dc:creator>Elyse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 04:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;mailto:Gromit@6&quot;&gt;Gromit@6&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The comments were certainly on this morning and were almost all scathing against Lane.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="mailto:Gromit@6">Gromit@6</a><br />
The comments were certainly on this morning and were almost all scathing against Lane.</p>
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		<title>By: priscianus jr</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/24/burying-the-truth-about-bush/#comment-993178</link>
		<dc:creator>priscianus jr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 04:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The great thing is that ultimately what is at issue in this case is whether the Killian documents are genuine or not. But that is tantamount to the true story of Bush’s military service, or lack of same. And that is headed for court. — Those who suggest that it is likely to end with an out-of-court settlement are probably right, the last thing Bush, or CBS, wants is for this to go to trial. But if Rather is really as incensed about the hatchet job done by CBS on the whole concept of investigative reporting, and of the press as a watchdog of democracy, as about that done on his personal reputation, he’ll do well to refuse to settle, because he’ll get major damages anyway and this is the only way the facts can be vindicated. They may even be able to find out who was really ebhind this scam and exactly how it was orchestrated.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The great thing is that ultimately what is at issue in this case is whether the Killian documents are genuine or not. But that is tantamount to the true story of Bush’s military service, or lack of same. And that is headed for court. — Those who suggest that it is likely to end with an out-of-court settlement are probably right, the last thing Bush, or CBS, wants is for this to go to trial. But if Rather is really as incensed about the hatchet job done by CBS on the whole concept of investigative reporting, and of the press as a watchdog of democracy, as about that done on his personal reputation, he’ll do well to refuse to settle, because he’ll get major damages anyway and this is the only way the facts can be vindicated. They may even be able to find out who was really ebhind this scam and exactly how it was orchestrated.</p>
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		<title>By: Constant Reader</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/24/burying-the-truth-about-bush/#comment-993073</link>
		<dc:creator>Constant Reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 03:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-992608&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;LS @ 37&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;More on Bath and Bush:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://knowyourbfee.blogspot.com/2005/08/know-your-bfee-james-r-bath-bush-bin.html&quot;&gt;http://knowyourbfee.blogspot.c.....h-bin.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This will likely be EPU’d, but I’ll throw it out there anyway.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The person who may know the most about the BCCI mess, because he investigated it and tried to prosecute it, is none other than John Kerry. Kind of makes even more clear the Bushite terror in 2004 that Kerry was likely to win, doesn’t it?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-992608"><em>LS @ 37</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>More on Bath and Bush:</p>
<p><a href="http://knowyourbfee.blogspot.com/2005/08/know-your-bfee-james-r-bath-bush-bin.html">http://knowyourbfee.blogspot.c&#8230;..h-bin.html</a></p>
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<p>This will likely be EPU’d, but I’ll throw it out there anyway.</p>
<p>The person who may know the most about the BCCI mess, because he investigated it and tried to prosecute it, is none other than John Kerry. Kind of makes even more clear the Bushite terror in 2004 that Kerry was likely to win, doesn’t it?</p>
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