zed

Jane!

Hiya Jane! Now I will watch the video.

No shit, what a bunch of suckers.

No idea. Grrrr.

The MoveOn censure vote was great for MoveOn, but maybe not so great for Blue America candidates here on FDL.

I’ve exhausted my budget on MoveOn.

And will keep doing it.

herd mentality knows no bounds?

We need to find more individuals with strong personalities, who know how to cooperate when it’s appropriate.

Cassie? How you doing on that college application thing? Keep on your present track, and you’ll make waves ;->

Disappointing. Obviously the “Amazons” have not arrived in Congress. Women have power, all kinds of power, but sadly don’t use it the way they could. The whole ERA thing still piss*s me off.

cool video. thanks jane

see y’all later.

Looks like the video missed the fact that Boxer actually did vote against MoveOn, via her own motion. That there were actually two of them seems to have confused some people.

after DiFi’s vote against Move-on (and all her other crappy votes lately) I wrote her to say that it seemed she was having trouble understanding the issues and that it was time for her to retire.

Just got into an argument with Mr. Rev. about it. He ran for state office back in the 60’s and still thinks there’s a mushy middle that has to be catered to.

Screw that.

MoveOn is cleaning up over this and I hope Give’em Everything Harry is paying attention. All of those bucks are not going into the coffers of the DSCC, or the DCCC nor are they going to the BushDogs.

More and BETTER Democrats who have the spine to earn their seats. That’s where I’m at.

haven’t been this p*ssed off in a while!

LS @ 8

Disappointing. Obviously the “Amazons” have not arrived in Congress. Women have power, all kinds of power, but sadly don’t use it the way they could. The whole ERA thing still piss*s me off.

LS,

I work in a field where women rule. In a big way. But I still stick to ideas, and it works.

I lived in SF when Mosconi and Milk were killed. Diane Feinstein did a great job that day. She has been riding on that image ever since. Time to bring her down.

And Mary Landrieu can kiss my big a**. She continually screws over NOLA dems. Yellow dog democrat.

Grumble. After the title, I was expecting a post about Babs Comstock and Ole 60 Grit.

support the troops waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

Ouch!

Where did you find that video?

that video was fantastic!

What happened to “I’m a Woman”…W..O..M..A..N..???? We are still here. Who was it that did the best version??? I just listened to Bette Midler, but she was so flat..I had to go…it wasn’t Rita Coolidge, it was??????? Long dark hair…kinda bluegrass??? Anyone?

I gave moveon.org $100 on Friday. I’ll give them quite a bit more if they run that ad against Congress that says “Elected Representatives or Ass-Kissing Little Chickenshits?”

How about “Give ‘em Head Harry?”

Loved the video!!!!!

LS @ 19

What happened to “I’m a Woman”…W..O..M..A..N..???? We are still here. Who was it that did the best version??? I just listened to Bette Midler, but she was so flat..I had to go…it wasn’t Rita Coolidge, it was??????? Long dark hair…kinda bluegrass??? Anyone?

Anne Murray?

I guess I’m not really surprised that DiFi voted for it, and I’m glad that Boxer voted against it, instead of skipping out on the vote again, like she did on FISA. I dunno what’s wrong with DiFi… maybe she needs an extended sabbitical.

Perhaps Jane should consider running against her :)

“look at that stupid girrrrll-l”

OMGoddess…

make it stop playing in my head.

make it stop playing in my head.

Ouch.

The song loop hurts, but not as much as the femthoritarian vote.

Different closets
wardrobes, same goose step.

support the troops

but also understand how they are used as pawn

Fuckin Mc Cain with his “we beat you bullshit”. His time will come.

Twisted Martini @ 21

How about “Give ‘em Head Harry?”

touché

Twisted Martini @ 21

How about “Give ‘em Head Harry?”

ahahaha! I like it!

marymccurnin @ 14

I lived in SF when Mosconi and Milk were killed. Diane Feinstein did a great job that day. She has been riding on that image ever since. Time to bring her down.

And Mary Landrieu can kiss my big a**. She continually screws over NOLA dems. Yellow dog democrat.

You got that right marymc. Landrieu is nothing more than a DINO. Since Louisiana went to Bush both times I guess she is trying to play up that “moderate” thing. I call bullshit, at least Diaper Dave Vitter didn’t bother to cast a vote.

Twisted Martini @ 21

How about “Give ‘em Head Harry?”

I don’t usually say this, but LOL!

Here’s the roll call via CNN. Didn’t think about it terms of women before.

Twisted Martini

How about “Give ‘em Head Harry?”

Nose spew alert!

How I spent Iraq Moratorium Day:

http://freewayblogger.blogspot.....m-day.html

Please read. There’s really no reason why I should have all the fun.

I just saw the ad that Ari Fleischer (the TRAITOR who outed a CIA agent)group…that says…
“Call your senator and tell them to condemn move-on, we will NOT surrender”…I see St McCain got the talking points from Ari for the NRA convention….LOSERS!

Those women Betrayed US

kirk murphy @ 25

“look at that stupid girrrrll-l”

OMGoddess…

make it stop playing in my head.

make it stop playing in my head.

Ouch.

The song loop hurts, but not as much as the femthoritarian vote.

Different closets
wardrobes, same goose step.

like what you say

sorry for anatomic tmi…

RevDeb @ 12

Just got into an argument with Mr. Rev. about it. He ran for state office back in the 60’s and still thinks there’s a mushy middle that has to be catered to.

Screw that.

MoveOn is cleaning up over this and I hope Give’em Everything Harry is paying attention. All of those bucks are not going into the coffers of the DSCC, or the DCCC nor are they going to the BushDogs.

More and BETTER Democrats who have the spine to earn their seats. That’s where I’m at.

haven’t been this p*ssed off in a while!

Hi! I gather you’re all moved in, sorta. Don’t start throwin’ stuff till all the boxes are unpacked, okay?

Your indominable spirit makes mine soar.
You go grrrrlll! and thank you. ;->

Jonathan @ 13

LS @ 8

Disappointing. Obviously the “Amazons” have not arrived in Congress. Women have power, all kinds of power, but sadly don’t use it the way they could. The whole ERA thing still piss*s me off.

LS,

I work in a field where women rule. In a big way. But I still stick to ideas, and it works.

Jonathan, I just want you to know that I love all people, male/female…to me there is no difference, and I think you are so right to stick to ideas. Women have a strange “position” in the world - men do too! Men are often saddled with too many expectations, women too few. I think everyone should just forget all of that and be treated equally and work together for a better world. We need each other. Events swing both ways over time…I’d like it to settle down and become united….but that is just me.

Remember…Harvey Milk had DiFi’s number….and wanted her out before he was killed….

marymccurnin @ 14

I lived in SF when Mosconi and Milk were killed. Diane Feinstein did a great job that day. She has been riding on that image ever since. Time to bring her down.

unfortunately DiFi Inc. (DiFink, DFNK on the NYSE) is an institution and virtually owns that senate seat. I can’t imagine any credible Dem taking her on. Yes, she deserves to be taken out. Not gonna happen.

On September 10, 2007, an advertisement in the New York Times was an unwarranted personal attack on General Petraeus; who is honorably leading our Armed Forces in Iraq and carrying out the mission assigned to him by the President of the United States

Such personal attacks on those with distinguished military service to our nation have become all too frequent.

…strongly condemn all attacks on the honor, integrity, and patriotism of any individual who is serving or has served honorably in the United States Armed Forces, by any person or organization.

— barbara boxer (SA 2947)

LS at 40

i love your posts

I think David Vitter knew better than to f*ck with MoveOn!

scarlet p. @ 34

How I spent Iraq Moratorium Day:

http://freewayblogger.blogspot.....m-day.html

Please read. There’s really no reason why I should have all the fun.

hey, I saw your small “CHIMPEACH” banner on a fence facing Hwy 80 in Emeryville. Made my day.

Selise…I haven’t forgiven Boxer for parading around Conn with LIEberman, I still haven’t forgiven her, this just adds to the anger .

Senate Set To Vote Today On Condemning MoveOn — And On Boxer’s Alternative

Boxer’s version also included condemnation of the attacks on Kerry. But it’s still materially the same with respect to MoveOn. So while she voted against the original, passing, censure motion, she did vote for her own version.

Problem is, the attacks on Kerry were lies. The attacks on Petraeus were based on his own words!

For the un-stupid girl who went to Tahlequah to bring one of the people (my cousin) down here to stay for a few days. I am going to the Aunties for the night. You will walk in my dreams. See you tomorrow.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJmbSTY41jI

Adie @ 39

RevDeb @ 12

Just got into an argument with Mr. Rev. about it. He ran for state office back in the 60’s and still thinks there’s a mushy middle that has to be catered to.

Screw that.

MoveOn is cleaning up over this and I hope Give’em Everything Harry is paying attention. All of those bucks are not going into the coffers of the DSCC, or the DCCC nor are they going to the BushDogs.

More and BETTER Democrats who have the spine to earn their seats. That’s where I’m at.

haven’t been this p*ssed off in a while!

Hi! I gather you’re all moved in, sorta. Don’t start throwin’ stuff till all the boxes are unpacked, okay?

Your indominable spirit makes mine soar.
You go grrrrlll! and thank you. ;->

Still have a bunch of boxes to unpack. Been awfully busy with church meetings and new sermons to write. After tomorrow I have a little breathing room and a bit of time to do more unpacking.

And I’m still p*ssed.

“Give “Em Head Harry” indeed!

Loo Hoo. @ 45

I think David Vitter knew better than to f*ck with MoveOn!

Yeah, since the day before he got slapped down for taking credit for aquiring funds for recovery that had already been approved. Poor Dave, so desperate to get the Flynt story out of the news he fabricated a press release out of whole cloth.

Jonathan @ 44

LS at 40

i love your posts

I love your posts too Jonathan.

punaise @ 46

scarlet p. @ 34

How I spent Iraq Moratorium Day:

http://freewayblogger.blogspot.....m-day.html

Please read. There’s really no reason why I should have all the fun.

hey, I saw your small “CHIMPEACH” banner on a fence facing Hwy 80 in Emeryville. Made my day.

anyone have a chimp and a peach picture to put side by side in a car window?
Darkblack? U. out there???

We need some Shenequa’s in the senate…you know to Rock their world!

You’d think the Senate might have something more important to be spending it’s time on, like checking the veracity of Petraes’s mystery numbers, you know, the ones with no sourcing.

LS @ 52

Jonathan @ 44

LS at 40

i love your posts

I love your posts too Jonathan.

We

belong

to
a

mutual

admiration society!

Elliott @ 55

You’d think the Senate might have something more important to be spending it’s time on, like checking the veracity of Petraes’s mystery numbers, you know, the ones with no sourcing.

Or even passing real legislation, like the Webb amendment!!!

Way to support the troops /s

I’m sure Vitter had more important.. um.. engagements than to be bothered to vote.

Is that video the new Move On commercial? I wonder if Blue America should start targeting Primary challenges more against Dems in name only.

Problem is, Ms. Boxer, Betrayus is hardly serving honorably by being Bush’s puppet. If he were man enough, he’d have spoken the truth.

Blub @ 58

I’m sure Vitter had more important.. um.. engagements than to be bothered to vote.

He was too busy cleaning up.

LS @ 52

Jonathan @ 44

LS at 40

i love your posts

I love your posts too Jonathan.

nuh-oh, folks. easy does it. only 10000 people reading and wanting to know more…

OldCoastie @ 23

LS @ 19

What happened to “I’m a Woman”…W..O..M..A..N..???? We are still here. Who was it that did the best version??? I just listened to Bette Midler, but she was so flat..I had to go…it wasn’t Rita Coolidge, it was??????? Long dark hair…kinda bluegrass??? Anyone?

Anne Murray?

No, it was a more “cool” bluegrass, hippie type…great singer..kind of jug band music…I feel like I have Alzheimer’s…ummmm…anyone?

RevDeb @ 12

Just got into an argument with Mr. Rev. about it. He ran for state office back in the 60’s and still thinks there’s a mushy middle that has to be catered to.

Screw that.

MoveOn is cleaning up over this and I hope Give’em Everything Harry is paying attention. All of those bucks are not going into the coffers of the DSCC, or the DCCC nor are they going to the BushDogs.

More and BETTER Democrats who have the spine to earn their seats. That’s where I’m at.

haven’t been this p*ssed off in a while!

i’m with you.

haven’t been this pissed off since fisa (even though it’s only been 7 weeks, i was REALLY pissed about fisa)

LS @ 63

OldCoastie @ 23

Anne Murray?

No, it was a more “cool” bluegrass, hippie type…great singer..kind of jug band music…I feel like I have Alzheimer’s…ummmm…anyone?

Helen Reddy

Fuckin’ Reid should have told the Republicans to go Cheney themselves over that stupid resolution. Majority leader my ass, LBJ is rolling over in his grave.

marymccurnin @ 65

LS @ 63

No, it was a more “cool” bluegrass, hippie type…great singer..kind of jug band music…I feel like I have Alzheimer’s…ummmm…anyone?

Helen Reddy

I’M A WOMAN
Maria Muldaur
(Jerry Leiber & Mike Stoller)

I can wash out forty-four pairs of socks
And have them hangin out on the line
I can starch and iron two dozen shirts
Before you can count from one to nine
I can scoop up a great big dipper
Full of lard from the drippin’s can
Throw it in the skillet, go out and do my
Shopping and be back before it melts in the pan
‘Cause I’m a woman
Double U O M A N
I’ll say it again

I can rub and scrub till this old house
Is shinin like a dime
Feed the baby, grease the car and
Powder my face at the same time
Get all dressed up, go out and swing
Till four a.m. and then
Lay down at five, jump up at six
And start all over again
‘Cause I’m a woman
Double U O M A N
I’ll say it again

If you come to me sickly, you know
I’m gonna make you well
If you come to me hexed up,
You know I’m gonna break the spell
If you come to me hungry,
You know I’m gonna fill you full o’ grits
If it’s lovin’ you’re lackin, I’ll kiss you
And give you the shiverin fits
‘Cause I’m a woman
Double U O M A N
I’ll say it again

I can stretch a greenback dollar bill
From here to kingdom come
I can play the numbers, pay my bills
And still end up with some
I got a twenty dollar gold piece says
There ain’t nothin I can’t do
I can make a dress out of a feed bag
And I can make a man out of you
‘Cause I’m a woman
Double U O M A N
I’ll say it again
‘Cause I’m a woman
Double U O M A N
And that’s all

I love the lake but ya’lls some squares up in here!

LS @ 63

OldCoastie @ 23

Anne Murray?

No, it was a more “cool” bluegrass, hippie type…great singer..kind of jug band music…I feel like I have Alzheimer’s…ummmm…anyone?

Helen Reddy

Diane Feinstein is looking more and more like a female Ted Stevens…

Elliott @ 55

You’d think the Senate might have something more important to be spending it’s time on, like checking the veracity of Petraes’s mystery numbers, you know, the ones with no sourcing.

thought they came from that mysterious boxlike device that occasionally turns up under shrub’s coat

LS @ 63

OldCoastie @ 23

Anne Murray?

No, it was a more “cool” bluegrass, hippie type…great singer..kind of jug band music…I feel like I have Alzheimer’s…ummmm…anyone?

Maybe Maria Muldaur? (Anne Murray was once arrested for “loitering in front of an orchestra”, according to Bette).

Ed*ard Teller @ 69

Diane Feinstein is looking more and more like a female Ted Stevens…

are you predicting a similar outcome, ET?

Ed*ard Teller @ 69

Diane Feinstein is looking more and more like a female Ted Stevens…

Hopefully she will suffer the same fate as Teddy!

LS @ 63

OldCoastie @ 23

Anne Murray?

No, it was a more “cool” bluegrass, hippie type…great singer..kind of jug band music…I feel like I have Alzheimer’s…ummmm…anyone?

Maria Muldaur?

Blub @ 70

Elliott @ 55

You’d think the Senate might have something more important to be spending it’s time on, like checking the veracity of Petraes’s mystery numbers, you know, the ones with no sourcing.

thought they came from that mysterious boxlike device that occasionally turns up under shrub’s coat

You mean the Brainometer?

No, it was a more “cool” bluegrass, hippie type…great singer..kind of jug band music…I feel like I have Alzheimer’s…ummmm…anyone?
Helen Reddy

That;s a different song
‘

I am woman hear me roar

I called Amy Klobuchar’s office after the vote to say that I thought the MoveOn ad was truthful and justified and to let her know that I was more likely to support MoveOn with financial contributions than to give to her campaign. The staffer was subdued but sounded ticked off. I can’t believe Klobuchar was so out of tune with the reality of the situation. Gave a few bucks to MoveOn later that night.

61% of americans have a favorable opinion of Petraeus according to a recent poll- so lots of people were probably pissed at the ad. Goopers know it- and found a good opportunity to highliht their favorite theme- dems don’t support defense..

All bullshit and won’t matter much in a couple of weeks I suspect- but the ad did give goopers a nice opening.

marymccurnin @ 75

Brainometer?

it’s a commodore 64

I guess the one that surprises me most is Mikulski. I thought she was smarter than that. I thought she would pick up on it being a free speech issue, I figured she’d remember Kerry and Max Cleland, and Schinseki, Abizaid, Odom, Batiste, Casey, et al, and I figured she would be fearless. Didn’t see any of that. Too bad.

GordonM @ 71

LS @ 63

No, it was a more “cool” bluegrass, hippie type…great singer..kind of jug band music…I feel like I have Alzheimer’s…ummmm…anyone?

Maybe Maria Muldaur? (Anne Murray was once arrested for “loitering in front of an orchestra”, according to Bette).

Oops. Bette Midler’s joke as on Helen Reddy, I think.

Glad to see that folks here in Free Left Blogistan are finally, finally waking up to the fact that when you are Beeeotch sloppin’ some makeup on and callin’ yerself a ‘Democrat’ jes don’t cut it anymore.

All of the ‘Bush Beeeotches’ who voted to censure MoveOn for telling the truth about AKLCS ‘Betrayus’ need to go ‘under the bus’.

ASAP

I posted the damn song upstairs!

rwcole @ 78

61% of americans have a favorable opinion of Petraeus according to a recent poll- so lots of people were probably pissed at the ad. Goopers know it- and found a good opportunity to highliht their favorite theme- dems don’t support defense..

All bullshit and won’t matter much in a couple of weeks I suspect- but the ad did give goopers a nice opening.

Doesn’t explain 1.5mil in donation.

ONE POINT FIVE MILLION. WOOT.

*ahem* :-)

On the other hand- Move On got a TON of publicity out of ONE NEWSPAPER ad- and is probably fillin the coffers with the fruit of their labor- so everybody wins?

Blub @ 79

marymccurnin @ 75

Brainometer?

it’s a commodore 64

*spew*
Oh! You owe me a new keyboard, monitor, cup, and a nose cleaning!

HA!

peanutbutter @ 84

rwcole @ 78

61% of americans have a favorable opinion of Petraeus according to a recent poll- so lots of people were probably pissed at the ad. Goopers know it- and found a good opportunity to highliht their favorite theme- dems don’t support defense..

All bullshit and won’t matter much in a couple of weeks I suspect- but the ad did give goopers a nice opening.

Doesn’t explain 1.5mil in donation.

ONE POINT FIVE MILLION. WOOT.

*ahem* :-)

WOOT?

61% may have a favorable opinion of him now…let’s see when the TRUTH comes out….

madmommy @ 87

peanutbutter @ 84

Doesn’t explain 1.5mil in donation.

ONE POINT FIVE MILLION. WOOT.

*ahem* :-)

WOOT?

Woo hoo? Yay? Punching fist in air?

I dunno where I got woot from, but generally, that.

LS @ 63

OldCoastie @ 23

Anne Murray?

No, it was a more “cool” bluegrass, hippie type…great singer..kind of jug band music…I feel like I have Alzheimer’s…ummmm…anyone?

Er….sorry it was Helen Reddy who was most definitely not cool at the time. Doubt she is now either.

Maybe that was I and my tribe always thought that meme was total, absolute bullshit.

I’d rather have been wrong about it than be stuck with these ‘Bush Beeeotches’, however.

Frank Probst @ 20

I gave moveon.org $100 on Friday. I’ll give them quite a bit more if they run that ad against Congress that says “Elected Representatives or Ass-Kissing Little Chickenshits?”

here’s the link to the “ad” (satire). must see - trust me, you’ll be glad you did.

Twisted Martini @ 66

Fuckin’ Reid should have told the Republicans to go Cheney themselves over that stupid resolution. Majority leader my ass, LBJ is rolling over in his grave.

Yeah! Majority Leader is suppose to influence both sides and get the bill or admonition passed or buried. What’s this let’s be nice to our good friends on the other side? We need LBJ to haunt Harry and whisper in his ear what he must do. {{{LBJ}}} we need you!

I photoshopped a picture of Rosie the Riveter to make her giving a fist up and slapping her bicept in the “universal sign of disdain.” Changed the words to “Fuck Bush.”

We can do it, indeed.

Footnote: “universal sign of disdain” is how Time magazine described the ‘finger’ in a photograph of captured Peublo crew published by N. Korea.

Here’s to the first woman president who is a real feminist. Not the vote against naughty ads kind of woman.

QuakerGirl @ 92

Twisted Martini @ 66

Fuckin’ Reid should have told the Republicans to go Cheney themselves over that stupid resolution. Majority leader my ass, LBJ is rolling over in his grave.

Yeah! Majority Leader is suppose to influence both sides and get the bill or admonition passed or buried. What’s this let’s be nice to our good friends on the other side? We need LBJ to haunt Harry and whisper in his ear what he must do. {{{LBJ}}} we need you!

Imagine LBJ getting rolled repeatedly like Reid? I think not.

Maria Muldaur of Midnight at the Oasis fame.

mary at 94,

imo, the first woman president will be anti-feminist

More signs of surge success in Iraq:

Chlorine Restrictions Due To Security Concerns Help Fuel Spread Of Cholera In Iraq

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/22/cholera-iraq/

OKK.

I saw your comment [wayyyy downstairs several flights] about the goon pushing press people at the honorable repubblekan Rep’s graceful exit from anonymity. I looked for heat and couldn’t see much detail, but said goon was being ever so careful, in between chop-shots at followers, to shift some black thingie from hand to hand, so it was always at-the ready.
You don’t think it could have been a taser do you? Surely not cell phone. What a grand exit indeed. This is one classy brand of repubbles we gots ta contend with lately. Just keeps getting better. *blergh*
I’d like to roll the calendar back several decades. Even Nixon wasn’t this mean!?!

Franco @ 73

Ed*ard Teller @ 69

Diane Feinstein is looking more and more like a female Ted Stevens…

Hopefully she will suffer the same fate as Teddy!

She should. At least Ted Stevens has only steered his family to oil and fishing industry profits. Feinstein has used her committee positions in the Senate to enrich her husband, a goddam fucking WAR PROFITEER!:

The problems stem from her subcommittee activities from 2001 to late 2005, when she quit. During that period the public record suggests she knowingly took part in decisions that eventually put millions of dollars into her husband’s pocket — the classic conflict of interest that exploited her position and power to channel money to her husband’s companies.

In other words, it appears Sen. Feinstein was up to her ears in the same sort of shenanigans that landed California Rep. Randy “Duke” Cunningham (R) in the slammer. Indeed, it may be that the primary difference between the two is basically that Cunningham was a minor leaguer and a lot dumber than his state’s senior senator. […]

In spite of the blatant appearance of corruption, no major publication has picked up on the story, the Senate Ethics Committee has reportedly let her slip by, and she is now chairing the Senate Rules Committee, which puts her in charge of making sure her colleagues act ethically and avoid the sorts of conflicts of interest with which she is personally and so obviously familiar.

link.

Twisted Martini @ 21

How about “Give ‘em Head Harry?”

Hey, Harry, take a walk on the wild side.
And the coloured girls go doo-doo-doo

A.Citizen @ 90

LS @ 63

No, it was a more “cool” bluegrass, hippie type…great singer..kind of jug band music…I feel like I have Alzheimer’s…ummmm…anyone?

Er….sorry it was Helen Reddy who was most definitely not cool at the time. Doubt she is now either.

Maybe that was I and my tribe always thought that meme was total, absolute bullshit.

I’d rather have been wrong about it than be stuck with these ‘Bush Beeeotches’, however.

No, it was Maria Muldaur.

peanutbutter @ 48

Senate Set To Vote Today On Condemning MoveOn — And On Boxer’s Alternative

Boxer’s version also included condemnation of the attacks on Kerry. But it’s still materially the same with respect to MoveOn. So while she voted against the original, passing, censure motion, she did vote for her own version.

Problem is, the attacks on Kerry were lies. The attacks on Petraeus were based on his own words!

yes, i am very pissed off at her for equating the two (swift boating and moveon)… i listened to her say this kind of nonsense on the senate floor. … now that the congressional record is up for wednesday, i’ll go looking for some direct quotes.

Did I see a trichomoniasis thingy at the end? …at least that is what it looks like, ugly thing!

marymccurnin @ 14

I lived in SF when Mosconi and Milk were killed. Diane Feinstein did a great job that day. She has been riding on that image ever since. Time to bring her down.

And Mary Landrieu can kiss my big a**. She continually screws over NOLA dems. Yellow dog democrat.

Just think though, you could have had Jello Biafra has mayor!!

madmommy at 95

LBJ never got rolled.

He was a hardball player.

Let’s face it. The Dems were TOTALLY cowed by the Repubs on this one. It’s positively disgusting! WTF is going on here? I really don’t understand what happened. How about the Repubs repudiating Rush Limbaugh, or Ann Coulter?? Watching the news tonight about how Bush has won this one and how much the Dems are in disarray was depressing. If the Dems can’t get unified behind issues like this one then we’d better prepare ourselves for defeat in ‘08.

PeteCO @ 101

Twisted Martini @ 21

How about “Give ‘em Head Harry?”

Hey, Harry, take a walk on the wild side.
And the coloured girls go doo-doo-doo

HaHaHa! But then the mental picture-brain bleach, please!

Joe Klein’s conscience @ 105

marymccurnin @ 14

I lived in SF when Mosconi and Milk were killed. Diane Feinstein did a great job that day. She has been riding on that image ever since. Time to bring her down.

And Mary Landrieu can kiss my big a**. She continually screws over NOLA dems. Yellow dog democrat.

Just think though, you could have had Jello Biafra has mayor!!

Jello!

rwcole @ 78

61% of americans have a favorable opinion of Petraeus according to a recent poll- so lots of people were probably pissed at the ad. Goopers know it- and found a good opportunity to highliht their favorite theme- dems don’t support defense..

All bullshit and won’t matter much in a couple of weeks I suspect- but the ad did give goopers a nice opening.

Huh? Polls I saw said around 60% expected Patraeus to lie. Moveon raised nearly $1 million in 24 hours after the vote. I love it when Goopers advertise their wide stance - now Moveon can buy even more ads that resonate while offending the inside-the-beltway types. And the more they’re offended, the more money Moveon will raise.

I don’t think it matters anymore what is said about THE AD. It’s over, and I believe Moveon won.

This from someone who was skeptical when it came out. But the ad has had impact, they have gained membership, and by what I’m reading at FDL, they’ve had a serious bump in contributions. That sounds like victory to me.

I think moveon’s major problem now is which target to pick next, in such an incredibly target-rich environment.

Feinstein is unlikely to get re-elected- she’s getting to the age where maybe she doesn’t give a shit.

LS @ 63

OldCoastie @ 23

Anne Murray?

No, it was a more “cool” bluegrass, hippie type…great singer..kind of jug band music…I feel like I have Alzheimer’s…ummmm…anyone?

Petula Clarke! and I don’t even know pop music, and I’ll be 66 as of tomorrow. How’s them apples?! aaarrrrggggghhhhh! (s’cuse)

Jonathan @ 106

madmommy at 95

LBJ never got rolled.

He was a hardball player.

Exactly-never would he have let himself get rolled like Reid keeps doing over and over. I keep hoping at some point Reid is going to figure out you don’t take a knife to a gunfight. But no.

OT…I read on Americablog that Bush had “the freepers” at the WH and Darth and Condi were there too.

http://www.americablog.com/200.....-hate.html

Ya think our great senators will pass an amendment condeming Chimpy for having a hate group BBQ at the WH?
707

one piece of good news.

senator russ feingold support the grass roots and freedom of speech - voted “no” on BOTH amendments!

LBJ was a mean mother fu*ker.
Reid is just a momma’s boy.

A knife? We’d be so lucky. Dude brings a spoon every time.

rwcole @ 112

Feinstein is unlikely to get re-elected- she’s getting to the age where maybe she doesn’t give a shit.

I don’t think she will run again. I believe her term is up in 2010 and she will be 77 then.

Let’s not forget how Senator Feinstein’s family has profited from this war.

http://www.metroactive.com/feinstein/

http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Mar06/Frank01.htm

http://mediamatters.org/items/200704170008

Thanks Raven. Maria Muldaur.

Whoah! Just went to the Washington Post for a late-Saturday-evening check and what turned up? Little Debbie apologizing for the fact that the WaPo screwed up their coverage of the Sept. 15 demonstrations in DC. Oh, there were a lot of reasons like breaking news and editing on the fly — but for once she acknowledges that the Post was WRONG.
It almost impressed me — after a week of hearing about how up is down and black is white — how screwing kids out of healthcare is principled, and challenging a general is unAmerican, and how 51 votes no longer constitutes passage of a bill, finally a little (and yeah, it’s a little) bit of light. Maybe.
Or maybe it’s just that, as my Dad used to say, even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

Twisted Martini @ 118

A knife? We’d be so lucky. Dude brings a spoon every time.

707

I accidentally turned to Fox Noise. Instead of a cute, leggy blond, there is a Special Report on that most illustrious of all generals, Gen. Petraeus. he walks on water and none should ever dare criticize his genius.

Fox Noise says his nickname is “Peaches” Petraeus. Fox reports all his great military successes in Iraq. Actually, the successes have all been failures.

But, all the top military generals have been failing for the last 4 and a half years. The initial invasion was not a great victory. The initial liberation turned into a repressive military occupation. Weapons depots were left unguarded. Looting, insurgency, death squads, etc. etc…

All the generals have failed there and they will continue to fail. The plan is to fail and to destroy Iraq and that plan is succeding. They keep obeying the worst military leader ever, Kommander Guy.

marymccurnin @ 117

LBJ was a mean mother fu*ker.
Reid is just a momma’s boy.

Former boxer. Not to be messed with, actually.

Well, Happy Birthday Adie! *G* Cas I miss you tomorrow…

you know, the more i think about it… the more i think that the republican faux “outrage” wasn’t about distraction - it was about intimidation.

and the most important thing to do then, is to stand up and don’t let them intimidate you.

unfortuantly, the dems in congress are easily intimidated.

BigMitch @ 125

marymccurnin @ 117

LBJ was a mean mother fu*ker.
Reid is just a momma’s boy.

Former boxer. Not to be messed with, actually.

haven’t seen any evidence of that.

BigMitch @ 125

marymccurnin @ 117

LBJ was a mean mother fu*ker.
Reid is just a momma’s boy.

Former boxer. Not to be messed with, actually.

I am talking about now not then.

rwcole @ 112

Feinstein is unlikely to get re-elected- she’s getting to the age where maybe she doesn’t give a shit.

Why should she? Her net worth hs at least tripled during the war bacause of the war, and will be approaching $100 million by the end of the surge. Her husband has even done better, with contracts she was able to steer his way.

selise @ 127

you know, the more i think about it… the more i think that the republican faux “outrage” wasn’t about distraction - it was about intimidation.

and the most important thing to do then, is to stand up and don’t let them intimidate you.

unfortuantly, the dems in congress are easily intimidated.

weak as water! weak as water!

my bold

This clip from Colbert with Jeffrey Toobin who wrote a book about the Supreme Courts is well worth the watch.

http://rawstory.com//news/2007....._0921.html

I had heard that Justice Souter was terribly upset about the partisan 2000 Supreme court Presidential Selection. I had no idea that he had been considering stepping down.

Jonathan @ 106

madmommy at 95

LBJ never got rolled.

He was a hardball player.

It wasn’t wise to cross LBJ. He played for keeps and Tweety has no idea what Hardball means.

mk @ 122

Whoah! Just went to the Washington Post for a late-Saturday-evening check and what turned up? Little Debbie apologizing for the fact that the WaPo screwed up their coverage of the Sept. 15 demonstrations in DC. Oh, there were a lot of reasons like breaking news and editing on the fly — but for once she acknowledges that the Post was WRONG.
It almost impressed me — after a week of hearing about how up is down and black is white — how screwing kids out of healthcare is principled, and challenging a general is unAmerican, and how 51 votes no longer constitutes passage of a bill, finally a little (and yeah, it’s a little) bit of light. Maybe.
Or maybe it’s just that, as my Dad used to say, even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

Too little too late, and since you can’t undo the false impression of the paper’s coverage, an apology’s just a bit of CYA.

Loo Hoo. Thanks hon!

Got both knees replaced @ 6 yrs ago, after 40 yrs of trubble, and feel like a new person! Seems shameful to feel younger as an old biddy than I did at 30!?!

p.s., I always enjoy your comments.

Elliott @ 128

BigMitch @ 125

Former boxer. Not to be messed with, actually.

haven’t seen any evidence of that.

I’ve been saying that for the past few months. For being a former boxer, he sure plays patsy pretty easy.

Elliott @ 128

BigMitch @ 125

Former boxer. Not to be messed with, actually.

haven’t seen any evidence of that.

Really? He talks about it all the time.

Elliott @ 128

BigMitch @ 125

Former boxer. Not to be messed with, actually.

haven’t seen any evidence of that.

What kinda boxer? And, what kind of boxing team? Was it segregated? Who did he/the team box? Barbara is a Boxer, too.

To Miss Jane Hamsher:

The world is a better place with you in it!

From a devoted fan and admirer.

Joe Klein’s conscience @ 136

Elliott @ 128

haven’t seen any evidence of that.

I’ve been saying that for the past few months. For being a former boxer, he sure plays patsy pretty easy.

He is always getting sucker punched.

From Feinstein’s wikipedia entry:

Between 2001 and 2006[23], Diane Feinstein served as the ranking member of the United States Senate Appropriations Subcommittee on Military Construction, Veterans Affairs, and Related Agencies, also known as the “MILCON” subcommittee. Feinstein also served as chair of the MILCON subcommittee when the Democrats controlled the Senate in 2001 and 2002.
While on the MILCON subcommitte, Feinstein voted for appropriations worth billions of dollars to firms owned by her husband, Richard C. Blum.[5] This included millions of dollars in contracts awarded to Blum’s Perini Corporation to provide goods and services in Iraq and Afghanistan…

I had a thought about how we might break through some cognitive dissonance…we need to make football analogies. The NFL is transcendent, so let’s use it to break through. George Bush is a worse owner than William Clay Ford, and changing coaches doesn’t mean an damn thing because the whole organization is broken. Criticizing Petraeus is like criticisng the the coach. If the team is 2-10, and they keep telling us we’re making progress, who is going to believe them? And what self respecting Lions fan WOULDN’T say the coach is a lying sack of shit?

See how easy that is?

Elliott @ 128

BigMitch @ 125

Former boxer. Not to be messed with, actually.

haven’t seen any evidence of that.

i hate to admit it, because i kinda like the guy, but
“rope-a-dope” tactics? WHICH.ARE.NOT.WORKING!
I keep hoping he’ll notice, oh sigh.

newtonusr @ 137

Elliott @ 128

haven’t seen any evidence of that.

Really? He talks about it all the time.

sure it’s talked about, but can’t see it to be so.

selise @ 91

Frank Probst @ 20

I gave moveon.org $100 on Friday. I’ll give them quite a bit more if they run that ad against Congress that says “Elected Representatives or Ass-Kissing Little Chickenshits?”

here’s the link to the “ad” (satire). must see - trust me, you’ll be glad you did.

shouldda known it was the dood. He rocks!

OMG…I forgot about this song…it is truly beautiful - Maria Muldaur - if you were there, you will remember:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nR0IO77DOOo

Syria/Israel
http://rawstory.com/news/afp/I.....clear__092
22007.html

Harry “Tomato Can” Reid? Harry “Glass Jaw” Reid?

BigMitch @ 125

marymccurnin @ 117

LBJ was a mean mother fu*ker.
Reid is just a momma’s boy.

Former boxer. Not to be messed with, actually.

The Republicans aren’t afraid of Reid. They’ve punked him quite often now.

BigMitch @ 125

marymccurnin @ 117

LBJ was a mean mother fu*ker.
Reid is just a momma’s boy.

Former boxer. Not to be messed with, actually.

So I keep hearing, but very seldom do I see that boxer in action.

Twisted Martini @ 148

Harry “Tomato Can” Reid? Harry “Glass Jaw” Reid?

Harry “Take a Dive” Reid

LBJ

“During World War II he served briefly in the Navy as a lieutenant commander, winning a Silver Star in the South Pacific. After six terms in the House, Johnson was elected to the Senate in 1948. In 1953, he became the youngest Minority Leader in Senate history, and the following year, when the Democrats won control, Majority Leader. With rare skill he obtained passage of a number of key Eisenhower measures.”

madmommy @ 134

mk @ 122

Whoah! Just went to the Washington Post for a late-Saturday-evening check and what turned up? Little Debbie apologizing for the fact that the WaPo screwed up their coverage of the Sept. 15 demonstrations in DC. Oh, there were a lot of reasons like breaking news and editing on the fly — but for once she acknowledges that the Post was WRONG.
It almost impressed me — after a week of hearing about how up is down and black is white — how screwing kids out of healthcare is principled, and challenging a general is unAmerican, and how 51 votes no longer constitutes passage of a bill, finally a little (and yeah, it’s a little) bit of light. Maybe.
Or maybe it’s just that, as my Dad used to say, even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

Too little too late, and since you can’t undo the false impression of the paper’s coverage, an apology’s just a bit of CYA.

Oops we misrepresented the anti-war marches again. What a surprise!

Hey, Raven, when I mentioned Cosby yesterday, you said you thought he only had honorary degrees, and he does have a ton of those. But he also has an earned doctorate (from this link.)

Cosby earned a Master Degree in Education (M. Ed.) in 1972 and his Doctorate in Education (Ed.D.) in 1977 from the University of Massachusetts. His doctoral thesis was titled “The Integration of Visual Media Via Fat Albert and the Cosby Kids Into the Elementary Schools Culminating as a Teacher Aid to Achieve Increased Learning.”

He also enrolled in college after serving in the military, and the article mentions that he quit school in tenth grade to join the navy. Just thought it was an interesting parallel.

Ed*ard Teller @ 130

rwcole @ 112

Feinstein is unlikely to get re-elected- she’s getting to the age where maybe she doesn’t give a shit.

Why should she? Her net worth hs at least tripled during the war bacause of the war, and will be approaching $100 million by the end of the surge. Her husband has even done better, with contracts she was able to steer his way.

Not to mention she came from a family with money and her first husband was loaded. She never knew a hard economic day in her entire life. My Mom used to call women like this RICH B…..

theWalrus @ 107

Let’s face it. The Dems were TOTALLY cowed by the Repubs on this one. It’s positively disgusting! WTF is going on here? I really don’t understand what happened. How about the Repubs repudiating Rush Limbaugh, or Ann Coulter?? Watching the news tonight about how Bush has won this one and how much the Dems are in disarray was depressing. If the Dems can’t get unified behind issues like this one then we’d better prepare ourselves for defeat in ‘08.

Is there a nexus of connections between the chicken sh*t actions of the dems and the wiretapping? The comment above about Barbara Mikulski—is she worried the nasty buggers will out her? So what? All I can think of is some very nasty blackmail going on here. Either that or all of those folks ARE truly spineless.

On second thought one way or another, they are spineless sell outs. To what is the only question.

selise @ 91

Frank Probst @ 20

I gave moveon.org $100 on Friday. I’ll give them quite a bit more if they run that ad against Congress that says “Elected Representatives or Ass-Kissing Little Chickenshits?”

here’s the link to the “ad” (satire). must see - trust me, you’ll be glad you did.

That kicks ass. They should actually run it.

Jane, where did you get that video? Wonderful!

Is anyone watching Faux Noise’s hagiography of Petraeus?

Elliott @ 144

newtonusr @ 137

Really? He talks about it all the time.

sure it’s talked about, but can’t see it to be so.

Sorry. I was going for snide and ended up with nada.

Do the democrats ever get together and plan strategy? I mean, really. Or would Lieberman always have to be invited? Or is there another Benedict amongst them that prevent such planning meetings? Or is it just every man for himself? This MoveOn vote, though, I see no sense in it. Either you believe in free speech, or you don’t. And if you don’t, you’re breaking your oath to uphold the Constitution. Why does easy become so difficult for so many of these people?

Joe Klein’s conscience @ 159

Is anyone watching Faux Noise’s hagiography of Petraeus?

Nah, I’d like to keep my supper in my tummy where it belongs, thanks.

…what we are doing is saying that there is essentially a terrible trend in America today: to launch attacks on honorable people who serve in the military.

— barbara boxer (9/20/07 on the senate floor)

The Boxer amendment, which I am honored to cosponsor, changes it. I think the examples we have cited in this amendment include not only the MoveOn ad, which has been dismissed and criticized by many on both sides of the aisle, …

— dick durbin (9/20/07 on the senate floor)

Mr. President, I might say that my friend and colleague–maybe he didn’t read the Boxer amendment because we specifically pointed to the Petraeus ad, and we say, in fact, that it was an unwarranted personal attack.

— barbara boxer (9/20/07 on the senate floor)

…we reaffirm our strong support for all the men and women in the U.S. Armed Forces, and we strongly condemn all attacks on the honor, integrity, and patriotism of any individual who is serving as or has honorably served in the U.S. Armed Forces by any person or organization

— barbara boxer (9/20/07 on the senate floor)

Vichy Democrats.

Let’s use the term. In their faces. Frequently and unrelentingly.

newtonusr @ 160

Elliott @ 144

sure it’s talked about, but can’t see it to be so.

Sorry. I was going for snide and ended up with nada.

Oh, sorry for being thick there. :)

Well folks it is time for me to go back to synagogue to conclude the observation of Yom Kippur. The readings will include the Book of Jonah.

As you may recall from the story, Jonah is instructed to go to Ninevah to preach, but he books a passage on a ship going in the opposite direction.

A lesson for those who would run away from a fight.

oregondave @ 164

Vichy Democrats.

Let’s use the term. In their faces. Frequently and often.

Viva Gilliard! Hang the collaborators!

[Mod Note; that’s in a metaphorical sense, right?]

BigMitch @ 166

Well folks it is time for me to go back to synagogue to conclude the observation of Yom Kippur. The readings will include the Book of Jonah.

As you may recall from the story, Jonah is instructed to go to Ninevah to preach, but he books a passage on a ship going in the opposite direction.

A lesson for those who would run away from a fight.

A good rest of the evening to you, Big Mitch.

I learned many years ago that women in power can be just as incompetent as men in power (I had a bad boss who was just as bad as her male counterparts). But it disgusts me that it seems too many women, particularly politicians, are so worried about “fitting in” with the boys club that they get pulled into stupid actions. Where’s the courage of conviction?

Amy Klobuchar is my senator, I admired her and contributed to get her elected. But she has now voted on two things that call into question her competence—the FISA Bush gimme and now this MoveOn censure. Her father is a journalist, so you’d think she’d have a better understanding of the dangers of using government to attack legal, free speech.

Unfortunately, I’m feeling sure that she’ll next vote to make the FISA changes permanent (and expand them like Bush has called for), as well as give retroactive immunity to AT&T and others for illegally spying on Americans. She dithers with non-controversial things like toy safety while enabling the worst attacks against our Constitution.

BigMitch @ 166

Well folks it is time for me to go back to synagogue to conclude the observation of Yom Kippur. The readings will include the Book of Jonah.

As you may recall from the story, Jonah is instructed to go to Ninevah to preach, but he books a passage on a ship going in the opposite direction.

A lesson for those who would run away from a fight.

Good evening, BigMitch. Always good to visit with you. Shalom!

Is Reid a coward?

I’m not sure that physical courage is the right analogy to use here.

This is not a fist fight.

Harry shaves his **** Reid.

selise

i served in the army

anyone wants to attack me for any reason

that’s ok

RevDeb @ 156

Is there a nexus of connections between the chicken sh*t actions of the dems and the wiretapping? The comment above about Barbara Mikulski—is she worried the nasty buggers will out her? So what? All I can think of is some very nasty blackmail going on here. Either that or all of those folks ARE truly spineless.

On second thought one way or another, they are spineless sell outs. To what is the only question.

Maybe there are other explanations. I’ve suspected for years, ever since the rise of Clinton “centrism,” that many Dems are there specifically to undermine the Party from within. Throw us Liberals just enough bones to keep us complacent enough to keep voting them in, while doing their Conglomerate masters’ biddings.

For me, the last few months have basically proven this theory. I don’t buy the “they’re just too dumb,” or “they just keep getting beat by great Repube strategy” arguments. When it’s the same thing year after year, I find these excuses harder to believe than my conspiracy theory.

I got it, newtonusr.

rwcole @ 171

Is Reid a coward?

I’m not sure that physical courage is the right analogy to use here.

This is not a fist fight.

Maybe not, but how many examples of bad faith do you need before you begin to distrust anything your counterparts say or do? It takes physical courage to stand and deliver in the face of the Noise Machine.

I hope; I hope we all condemn the ad in the New York Times. I have personally, and I feel very personal about it. I thought it was a disgraceful ad.

— carl levin (9/20/07 on the senate floor)

all quotes are from the congressional record.

Anyone wanna pick a different target?

I get sick of feeling as if we’re standing side-by-side with repubbles, being laughed at as we pick on our own side.

Deep down, surely you know it’s gotta be straight outta Kkkarl’s book a slicktricks, to get us to do that.

Enough for me. I’ll criticise, and pester over substance, but I won’t demean and mock any more, not when they’re in the trenches, appearing to work hard.

This nasty admin. has rocked some of the best back onto their heels. I’ve never seen a steadier stream of such vicious tactics, not just during campaigns, but year-in and year-out.

We have to figure some way to lean HARD on our side over policy and tactics, but not squash them under our collective heel. I suspect that was one trouble with the MoveOn Betr-ad. Given the toxic climate right now, it shocked them.
All is not lost, either way, but consider approaching congresscritters in a more user-friendly way, but no-less tough and urgent about issues than you did before.

At least file the thot and think on it. Thanks.

puppethead @ 169

I learned many years ago that women in power can be just as incompetent as men in power (I had a bad boss who was just as bad as her male counterparts). But it disgusts me that it seems too many women, particularly politicians, are so worried about “fitting in” with the boys club that they get pulled into stupid actions. Where’s the courage of conviction?

Amy Klobuchar is my senator, I admired her and contributed to get her elected. But she has now voted on two things that call into question her competence—the FISA Bush gimme and now this MoveOn censure. Her father is a journalist, so you’d think she’d have a better understanding of the dangers of using government to attack legal, free speech.

Unfortunately, I’m feeling sure that she’ll next vote to make the FISA changes permanent (and expand them like Bush has called for), as well as give retroactive immunity to AT&T and others for illegally spying on Americans. She dithers with non-controversial things like toy safety while enabling the worst attacks against our Constitution.

In the corporate world, men choose the woman for senior positions thus they look for their own kind. She gets in because she is a good ole boy. If not, she isn’t on the short list of candidates.

61% of americans have a favorable opinion of Petraeus according to a recent poll…Polls…said around 60% expected Patraeus to lie.

People have to be careful to avoid treating polling info like this as useful. The only thing polls like this measure is, “how successful has the propaganda been?“
Why would 61% of people have a favorable opinion of Gen. Petraeus, when most people don’t know jack about the General? Likewise, why would they assume the negative-that he would lie, when, again, they know nothing or very little about him, have no idea what the facts on the ground are, or even what they would need to be? Most people are not informed enough to have a competent opinion on these questions, and that means the poll is useless. Worse than useless-misleading. Polls saying the surge will or won’t work, when the vast majority of people have very little concept of military strategy or what urban warfare entails, or how much of the information coming out of Iraq is reliable.

I just hate polls where they ask people questions they can’t possibly be competent to answer, and then draw conclusions that are treated as authoritative .

Jonathan @ 173

selise

i served in the army

anyone wants to attack me for any reason

that’s ok

i know you can take it.

but that doesn’t make it right.

John Dean’s latest

Why Authoritarians Now Control the Republican Party: The Rise of Authoritarian Conservatism
Part Two in a Three-Part Series
By JOHN W. DEAN

http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dean/20070921.html

“Authoritarian conservatism was growing in force in Washington for a decade before Bush and Cheney arrived at the White House, but their administration has taken it to its highest and most dangerous level in American history.”

BigMitch @ 166

Well folks it is time for me to go back to synagogue to conclude the observation of Yom Kippur. The readings will include the Book of Jonah.

As you may recall from the story, Jonah is instructed to go to Ninevah to preach, but he books a passage on a ship going in the opposite direction.

A lesson for those who would run away from a fight.

IIRC things didn’t exactly turn out very well for Jonah in the end.

That doesn’t mean I would dream of running away from a fight, but . . . .

Elliott @ 18

that video was fantastic!

I am no videographer but I was sooo pissed I had to do something. I’m so glad that I get to shout in a group. Sorry about the ringing song in everyone’s head…but think about MY head….smile

Loo Hoo!

BigMitch @ 125

marymccurnin @ 117

LBJ was a mean mother fu*ker.
Reid is just a momma’s boy.

Former boxer. Not to be messed with, actually.

His presidential library is well worth seeing if you happen to be in Austin, and it’s free!

bonkers @ 174

RevDeb @ 156

Is there a nexus of connections between the chicken sh*t actions of the dems and the wiretapping? The comment above about Barbara Mikulski—is she worried the nasty buggers will out her? So what? All I can think of is some very nasty blackmail going on here. Either that or all of those folks ARE truly spineless.

On second thought one way or another, they are spineless sell outs. To what is the only question.

Maybe there are other explanations. I’ve suspected for years, ever since the rise of Clinton “centrism,” that many Dems are there specifically to undermine the Party from within. Throw us Liberals just enough bones to keep us complacent enough to keep voting them in, while doing their Conglomerate masters’ biddings.

For me, the last few months have basically proven this theory. I don’t buy the “they’re just too dumb,” or “they just keep getting beat by great Repube strategy” arguments. When it’s the same thing year after year, I find these excuses harder to believe than my conspiracy theory.

Another argument for public funding of elections. Did anyone see Bill Clinton on The Daily Show last week? He was talking about the difference in scheduling and time constraints from when he was first involved with Congress and today. He said when he first got his start Congresspeople spent 7 months in Washington, not leaving on weekends. They were able to confer with one another, have a regular schedule, etc. Then they went home for 5 months and traveled their districts or states and talked to the people. Now it is completely different, and he thinks the increased demands for constant fundraising, non-stop travel etc has contributed to the free-floating hostility. He stopped short of advocating public funding for elections, but his thoughts were interesting.

Shrink in SF/onepissedoffdem @ 184

Elliott @ 18

that video was fantastic!

I am no videographer but I was sooo pissed I had to do something. I’m so glad that I get to shout in a group. Sorry about the ringing song in everyone’s head…but think about MY head….smile

you are a brilliant videographer… native talent in bucket fulls. thank you so much for making it!

Shrink in SF/onepissedoffdem @ 184

Elliott @ 18

that video was fantastic!

I am no videographer but I was sooo pissed I had to do something. I’m so glad that I get to shout in a group. Sorry about the ringing song in everyone’s head…but think about MY head….smile

Oh wow!

THANKS! really enjoyed it.

QuakerGirl @ 155

Ed*ard Teller @ 130

Why should she? Her net worth hs at least tripled during the war bacause of the war, and will be approaching $100 million by the end of the surge. Her husband has even done better, with contracts she was able to steer his way.

Not to mention she came from a family with money and her first husband was loaded. She never knew a hard economic day in her entire life. My Mom used to call women like this RICH B…..

Her conflict of interest issues should be investigated by the Dems, Repubs I don’t care if she is a Democrat. She should be invesigated for profits off of this war.

Adie @ 178

Anyone wanna pick a different target?

no, not right now.

i’m sorry about that though, i don’t want my anger to cause you grief.

RonD @ 180

61% of americans have a favorable opinion of Petraeus according to a recent poll…Polls…said around 60% expected Patraeus to lie.

People have to be careful to avoid treating polling info like this as useful. The only thing polls like this measure is, “how successful has the propaganda been?“
Why would 61% of people have a favorable opinion of Gen. Petraeus, when most people don’t know jack about the General? Likewise, why would they assume the negative-that he would lie, when, again, they know nothing or very little about him, have no idea what the facts on the ground are, or even what they would need to be? Most people are not informed enough to have a competent opinion on these questions, and that means the poll is useless. Worse than useless-misleading. Polls saying the surge will or won’t work, when the vast majority of people have very little concept of military strategy or what urban warfare entails, or how much of the information coming out of Iraq is reliable.

I just hate polls where they ask people questions they can’t possibly be competent to answer, and then draw conclusions that are treated as authoritative .

How can 60% have a favorable opinion, yet that same number expect him to lie? It doesn’t make any sense(okay .. it does in Republican world).

Shrink in SF/onepissedoffdem @ 184

Elliott @ 18

that video was fantastic!

I am no videographer but I was sooo pissed I had to do something. I’m so glad that I get to shout in a group. Sorry about the ringing song in everyone’s head…but think about MY head….smile

The Headline video?

Joe Klein’s conscience @ 192

RonD @ 180

People have to be careful to avoid treating polling info like this as useful. The only thing polls like this measure is, “how successful has the propaganda been?“
Why would 61% of people have a favorable opinion of Gen. Petraeus, when most people don’t know jack about the General? Likewise, why would they assume the negative-that he would lie, when, again, they know nothing or very little about him, have no idea what the facts on the ground are, or even what they would need to be? Most people are not informed enough to have a competent opinion on these questions, and that means the poll is useless. Worse than useless-misleading. Polls saying the surge will or won’t work, when the vast majority of people have very little concept of military strategy or what urban warfare entails, or how much of the information coming out of Iraq is reliable.

I just hate polls where they ask people questions they can’t possibly be competent to answer, and then draw conclusions that are treated as authoritative .

How can 60% have a favorable opinion, yet that same number expect him to lie? It doesn’t make any sense(okay .. it does in Republican world).

Proof! 60% of all Americans approve of liars.

newtonusr @ 160

Elliott @ 144

sure it’s talked about, but can’t see it to be so.

Sorry. I was going for snide and ended up with nada.

oh, I got the snide!!!

I love to box. Been doing since I was in jr. high. Would like to box a certain Republican office holder. Oh gawd that would be sweet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tywEnVjPUUQ

Kathleen @ 190

QuakerGirl @ 155

Not to mention she came from a family with money and her first husband was loaded. She never knew a hard economic day in her entire life. My Mom used to call women like this RICH B…..

Her conflict of interest issues should be investigated by the Dems, Repubs I don’t care if she is a Democrat. She should be invesigated for profits off of this war.

DiFi is a Repug in Dem clothing. She would never have had much of a political career and still live in San Francisco without presenting herself as a Democrat. I never voted for her for that reason. She was a fraud. Still is, only now, she is a very powerful fraud.

bonkers @ 174

RevDeb @ 156

Is there a nexus of connections between the chicken sh*t actions of the dems and the wiretapping? The comment above about Barbara Mikulski—is she worried the nasty buggers will out her? So what? All I can think of is some very nasty blackmail going on here. Either that or all of those folks ARE truly spineless.

On second thought one way or another, they are spineless sell outs. To what is the only question.

Maybe there are other explanations. I’ve suspected for years, ever since the rise of Clinton “centrism,” that many Dems are there specifically to undermine the Party from within. Throw us Liberals just enough bones to keep us complacent enough to keep voting them in, while doing their Conglomerate masters’ biddings.

For me, the last few months have basically proven this theory. I don’t buy the “they’re just too dumb,” or “they just keep getting beat by great Repube strategy” arguments. When it’s the same thing year after year, I find these excuses harder to believe than my conspiracy theory.

Manchurian Democrats, as it were….

How can 60% have a favorable opinion, yet that same number expect him to lie? It doesn’t make any sense(okay .. it does in Republican world).

ya suppose that Bush’s sycophants advisors are selling Georgie that his JAR approval rate is really 129%?

Man, I sure hope the Iraqis stick to their guns on getting Blackwater out.

It was not clear if the resumption of convoys was a signal of some political compromise between the State Department and the Iraqi government, which had demanded that the United States drop Blackwater as its protector, or whether it simply meant that American officials felt they could not afford to remain grounded. The State Department relies on Blackwater for its security outside the fortified Green Zone.

Oklahoma kiddo @ 196

I love to box. Been doing since I was in jr. high. Would like to box a certain Republican office holder. Oh gawd that would be sweet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tywEnVjPUUQ

very nice selection.

did you notice the chorus is “Lie Lie-Lie…”

RonD @ 180

61% of americans have a favorable opinion of Petraeus according to a recent poll…Polls…said around 60% expected Patraeus to lie.

People have to be careful to avoid treating polling info like this as useful. The only thing polls like this measure is, “how successful has the propaganda been?“
Why would 61% of people have a favorable opinion of Gen. Petraeus, when most people don’t know jack about the General? Likewise, why would they assume the negative-that he would lie, when, again, they know nothing or very little about him, have no idea what the facts on the ground are, or even what they would need to be? Most people are not informed enough to have a competent opinion on these questions, and that means the poll is useless. Worse than useless-misleading. Polls saying the surge will or won’t work, when the vast majority of people have very little concept of military strategy or what urban warfare entails, or how much of the information coming out of Iraq is reliable.

I just hate polls where they ask people questions they can’t possibly be competent to answer, and then draw conclusions that are treated as authoritative .

That’s a very perceptive and important point.

Shrink in SF/onepissedoffdem @ 184

Elliott @ 18

that video was fantastic!

I am no videographer but I was sooo pissed I had to do something. I’m so glad that I get to shout in a group. Sorry about the ringing song in everyone’s head…but think about MY head….smile

WOW!! FANTASTIC JOB SHRINK!!!

PeteCO @ 198

bonkers @ 174

Maybe there are other explanations. I’ve suspected for years, ever since the rise of Clinton “centrism,” that many Dems are there specifically to undermine the Party from within. Throw us Liberals just enough bones to keep us complacent enough to keep voting them in, while doing their Conglomerate masters’ biddings.

For me, the last few months have basically proven this theory. I don’t buy the “they’re just too dumb,” or “they just keep getting beat by great Repube strategy” arguments. When it’s the same thing year after year, I find these excuses harder to believe than my conspiracy theory.

Manchurian Democrats, as it were….

If all of this is true wouldn’t they do a better job of it?

I note people are on Feinstein’s case. Good.

Kitt @ 139

To Miss Jane Hamsher:
The world is a better place with you in it!

The understatement of the year so far !

Loo Hoo. @ 200

Man, I sure hope the Iraqis stick to their guns on getting Blackwater out.

It was not clear if the resumption of convoys was a signal of some political compromise between the State Department and the Iraqi government, which had demanded that the United States drop Blackwater as its protector, or whether it simply meant that American officials felt they could not afford to remain grounded. The State Department relies on Blackwater for its security outside the fortified Green Zone.

The next time Chimpy steps up to a mic, he should be asked if maybe his vaunted Army or Marines can do this job.

The Headline video?

the very one, i sent it to jane last night and she gave some awesome suggestions. I was surprised someone didn’t already have the name at youtube. Up untill now I’ve been busying myself making “beaver” videos to keep the city from extermination our local family. Politicians aren’t nearly as furry and cute.

RonD @ 180

61% of americans have a favorable opinion of Petraeus according to a recent poll…Polls…said around 60% expected Patraeus to lie.

People have to be careful to avoid treating polling info like this as useful. The only thing polls like this measure is, “how successful has the propaganda been?“
Why would 61% of people have a favorable opinion of Gen. Petraeus, when most people don’t know jack about the General? Likewise, why would they assume the negative-that he would lie, when, again, they know nothing or very little about him, have no idea what the facts on the ground are, or even what they would need to be? Most people are not informed enough to have a competent opinion on these questions, and that means the poll is useless. Worse than useless-misleading. Polls saying the surge will or won’t work, when the vast majority of people have very little concept of military strategy or what urban warfare entails, or how much of the information coming out of Iraq is reliable.

I just hate polls where they ask people questions they can’t possibly be competent to answer, and then draw conclusions that are treated as authoritative .

There is a low bar for favorability these days. I have mildly favorable opinion of Petraeus. I don’t think he exactly outright lied during the hearings, which makes him better than Gonzales and McConnell and a dozen other Bush administration officials. I think Petraeus foolishly played politics (out of vanity mostly) and also was put into a difficult position -Bush was clearly using him and hiding behind him. I think he has done a good job given the material he was given and whether the surge worked or not as a tactic is completely beside the point, because the strategic purpose (Iraqi political reconciliation) that the surge was meant to facilitate has been a total failure.

So, it is complicated world, and this is reflected in what may seem to be strange answers to a set of polling questions.

On the big picture, the public got it right -they want a commitment to some kind of withdrawal over the next year to 18 months, and they want a timeline. The dog and pony show did not budge the public on that one inch. It may have even backgired and cemented public opinion further.

And to add to my statement @197

She did miss Dan White’s bullet and was a strong figure during those dark sobering days after the assassinations. I truly believe she was genuine and not politically motivated at that time. The horror and pain was thicker than a dense fog covering the city. Those were gloomy days. People hurt. It was palpable.

Loo Hoo. @ 194

Joe Klein’s conscience @ 192

How can 60% have a favorable opinion, yet that same number expect him to lie? It doesn’t make any sense(okay .. it does in Republican world).

Proof! 60% of all Americans approve of liars.

How do you know the respondents are telling the truth?

PeteCO @ 198

bonkers @ 174
I don’t buy the “they’re just too dumb,” or “they just keep getting beat by great Repube strategy” arguments. When it’s the same thing year after year, I find these excuses harder to believe than my conspiracy theory.

Maybe many of the dems are really just repubs sheeps clothing.

selise @ 191

Adie @ 178

Anyone wanna pick a different target?

no, not right now.

i’m sorry about that though, i don’t want my anger to cause you grief.

Nope. Not at all. I’m probably just as white-hot angry as you. I suffer from being a former animal trainer, with a MS in behavior, and, shocking as the realization was, I discovered the same tactics I used to “reason” with horses works extremely well, -um- elsewhere. I think it takes all of us, with all of our various and sundry styles.

selise. You in particular provide gobs of incredibly valuable info. and thoughtful comments I always love to read.

I’d hate to see all of us marching in lockstep as the repubbles do. NEVER! But I can’t imagine us doing that anyway. Just wanted to toss that thot out, because I see the pols, even the seasoned ones, with that deer-in-the-headlights look. I honestly think a lot of them have been so caged by roverian slime, and hammered from all sides, that some seem to have lost their bearings at the moment. With our combined efforts, we’ll bring’em back, eh?

gotta go for now. back soon, mebbe not tomorrow, but even then i know i’ll have to lurk a bit.
This is a terrific place. ;->

(((peace))) - i can dream, can’t i? heh.

marymccurnin @ 204

PeteCO @ 198

Manchurian Democrats, as it were….

If all of this is true wouldn’t they do a better job of it?

They seem to be doing a good job right now.

Ha! Frank Rich is asking Larry Craig to stay put!

Not only did the senator do nothing wrong, but in scandal he has proved the national treasure that he never was in his salad days as a pork-seeking party hack. In the past month he has served as an invaluable human Geiger counter for hypocrisy on the left and right alike. He has been an unexpected boon not just to the nation’s double-entendre comedy industry but to the imploding Republican Party. Gays, not all of them closeted, may be among the last minority groups with some representation in the increasingly monochromatic G.O.P. If it is to muster even a rainbow-lite coalition for 2008, it could use Larry Craig in the trenches.

RevDeb @ 156

theWalrus @ 107

Let’s face it. The Dems were TOTALLY cowed by the Repubs on this one. It’s positively disgusting! WTF is going on here? I really don’t understand what happened. How about the Repubs repudiating Rush Limbaugh, or Ann Coulter?? Watching the news tonight about how Bush has won this one and how much the Dems are in disarray was depressing. If the Dems can’t get unified behind issues like this one then we’d better prepare ourselves for defeat in ‘08.

Is there a nexus of connections between the chicken sh*t actions of the dems and the wiretapping? The comment above about Barbara Mikulski—is she worried the nasty buggers will out her? So what? All I can think of is some very nasty blackmail going on here. Either that or all of those folks ARE truly spineless.

On second thought one way or another, they are spineless sell outs. To what is the only question.

If they are worried about living under laws they enacted, then we are all in trouble.

shrink-in-sf/onepissedoffdem @ 208

The Headline video?

the very one, i sent it to jane last night and she gave some awesome suggestions. I was surprised someone didn’t already have the name at youtube. Up untill now I’ve been busying myself making “beaver” videos to keep the city from extermination our local family. Politicians aren’t nearly as furry and cute.

Well, let’s see one of the beaver videos. Heck, it another Saturday night….

start_beating_around_the_bush @ 206

Kitt @ 139

To Miss Jane Hamsher:
The world is a better place with you in it!

The understatement of the year so far !

Hear! Hear!

QuakerGirl @ 210

And to add to my statement @197

She did miss Dan White’s bullet and was a strong figure during those dark sobering days after the assassinations. I truly believe she was genuine and not politically motivated at that time. The horror and pain was thicker than a dense fog covering the city. Those were gloomy days. People hurt. It was palpable.

As mayor she left office with city in a $1 million deficit (that wasn’t known about until just as she left). She left Art Agnos (incoming mayor) a bottle of champagne and a bottle of aspirin. WIth Feinstein, the yuk is always on someone else.

Ed*ard Teller @ 141

From Feinstein’s wikipedia entry:

Between 2001 and 2006[23], Diane Feinstein served as the ranking member of the United States Senate Appropriations Subcommittee on Military Construction, Veterans Affairs, and Related Agencies, also known as the “MILCON” subcommittee. Feinstein also served as chair of the MILCON subcommittee when the Democrats controlled the Senate in 2001 and 2002.
While on the MILCON subcommitte, Feinstein voted for appropriations worth billions of dollars to firms owned by her husband, Richard C. Blum.[5] This included millions of dollars in contracts awarded to Blum’s Perini Corporation to provide goods and services in Iraq and Afghanistan…

Feinstein’s true colors are finally showing through. Her vote for FISA, the Leslie Southwick betrayal, and her lack of contrition say that she is indeed on her last term. She has always favored authoritarian positions while pretending to be liberal, and feathering her nest all the while. The Senate and California will be better off without DiFi.

newtonusr @ 207

Loo Hoo. @ 200

Man, I sure hope the Iraqis stick to their guns on getting Blackwater out.

It was not clear if the resumption of convoys was a signal of some political compromise between the State Department and the Iraqi government, which had demanded that the United States drop Blackwater as its protector, or whether it simply meant that American officials felt they could not afford to remain grounded. The State Department relies on Blackwater for its security outside the fortified Green Zone.

The next time Chimpy steps up to a mic, he should be asked if maybe his vaunted Army or Marines can do this job.

Or, If you support the troops and think they’re so great, why do you feel compelled to employ a private army of mercenaries to do their jobs? Do you question the loyalty of the enlisted men?

I’ve raised and contributed so much money over the years for Dems that it makes me sick. I decided this week that I will send all of my money to MoveOn from now on. I couldn’t be more pissed at the Dems in congress.

newtonusr @ 207

Loo Hoo. @ 200

Man, I sure hope the Iraqis stick to their guns on getting Blackwater out.

It was not clear if the resumption of convoys was a signal of some political compromise between the State Department and the Iraqi government, which had demanded that the United States drop Blackwater as its protector, or whether it simply meant that American officials felt they could not afford to remain grounded. The State Department relies on Blackwater for its security outside the fortified Green Zone.

The next time Chimpy steps up to a mic, he should be asked if maybe his vaunted Army or Marines can do this job.

Why are we spending this kind of tax money on mercenaries? I agree, the MSM needs to get all over this, which they finally have on the issue of the arms and the shooting, but not the more substantial issue of why we need these goons at all.

Adie @ 213 -

(((peace)))

please, don’t stop dreaming.

love the jellyfish!

What these Senators really need is a lesson in civics and good citizenship. While I could understand questioning whether an ad is in good taste or uses poor judgment, I would think that a Senator should be able to discern that to censor censure it is unconstitutional. I don’t understand what it is about that concept is so hard. I also don’t understand why they can’t seem to fling the mud back, ever. You need to call a spade disingenuous when you see them accusing others of what they are infamous for doing the exact same things themselves. They could cite Kerry, Max Cleland, even McCain himself. They could also cite Colin Powell for how they wrecked his reputation, Schinseki for how they refused to listen to what he had to say about troop strength, and then fired him when he said it, and all the others. They need an open letter or something that comes out in strength aside from but supporting Move on dot org.

SeamusD @ 220

Feinstein’s true colors are finally showing through. Her vote for FISA, the Leslie Southwick betrayal, and her lack of contrition say that she is indeed on her last term. She has always favored authoritarian positions while pretending to be liberal, and feathering her nest all the while. The Senate and California will be better off without DiFi.

that FISA vote just felt all stabby-in-the-back, doncha think?

For Lahoma. See you tomorrow.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9La73DAKqoA

Good evening dear friends.

I am disappointed in so many dems on so many issues, but never thought to see if there were more women than men betraying our constitution and the values of this country.

Ann in AZ @ 226

What these Senators really need is a lesson in civics and good citizenship. While I could understand questioning whether an ad is in good taste or uses poor judgment, I would think that a Senator should be able to discern that to censor censure it is unconstitutional. I don’t understand what it is about that concept is so hard. I also don’t understand why they can’t seem to fling the mud back, ever. You need to call a spade disingenuous when you see them accusing others of what they are infamous for doing the exact same things themselves. They could cite Kerry, Max Cleland, even McCain himself. They could also cite Colin Powell for how they wrecked his reputation, Schinseki for how they refused to listen to what he had to say about troop strength, and then fired him when he said it, and all the others. They need an open letter or something that comes out in strength aside from but supporting Move on dot org.

Excellent!

“In a report in March, PricewaterhouseCoopers, an accountancy firm, said that the number of female senior managers in FTSE-350 had fallen by 40% since 2002.”

Economist
6/16/2007

lolo @ 225

love the jellyfish!

“And then there were jellyfish.”

PeteCO @ 214

marymccurnin @ 204

If all of this is true wouldn’t they do a better job of it?

They seem to be doing a good job right now.

Wouldn’t they do a better job of convincing all of us that they are above board. Right now they look either stupid or complicit.

Samsa @ 222

I’ve raised and contributed so much money over the years for Dems that it makes me sick. I decided this week that I will send all of my money to MoveOn from now on. I couldn’t be more pissed at the Dems in congress.

Been the MoveOn trail for the past week. It’s time to kick-down some coin right here @ FDL, at the top-right of this page. The servers don’t run themselves.

TexBetsy @ 229

Good evening dear friends.

I am disappointed in so many dems on so many issues, but never thought to see if there were more women than men betraying our constitution and the values of this country.

Hi TexB!

Evening TexB! How’re you doing this evening?

-um- when you guys are done pulling the stuffing outta the diane-doll, PLEASE don’t forget to deal with the honorable ME twins suede & olymphic. thanking you in advance.

moose mooses? moosies? mooseaux?

oh well. see what ye can do. i’d appreciate it.

Hey, TexB.

I am doing well thanks!

Aloha, Ya’ll!!! Seems like the Lake is roiling again! I do do windows, in this case Jalousies and screens, what fun…!!! 8-)

CTuttle @ 239

Aloha, Ya’ll!!! Seems like the Lake is roiling again! I do do windows, in this case Jalousies and screens, what fun…!!! 8-)

You do do windows?

CTuttle @ 240

Aloha, Ya’ll!!! Seems like the Lake is roiling again! I do do windows, in this case Jalousies and screens, what fun…!!! 8-)

Evening CT-a man who does windows, be still my heart!!!

I do windows and mac.

marymccurnin @ 241

CTuttle @ 239

Aloha, Ya’ll!!! Seems like the Lake is roiling again! I do do windows, in this case Jalousies and screens, what fun…!!! 8-)

You do do windows?

My main project today…!!!

TexBetsy @ 243

I do windows and mac.

LOL

Samsa @ 222

I’ve raised and contributed so much money over the years for Dems that it makes me sick. I decided this week that I will send all of my money to MoveOn from now on. I couldn’t be more pissed at the Dems in congress.

That’s where my contribution went this month too. Good for you!

TexBetsy @ 243

I do windows and mac.

I only do mac.

The Vista is too narrow in the Windows.

madmommy @ 242

CTuttle @ 240

Aloha, Ya’ll!!! Seems like the Lake is roiling again! I do do windows, in this case Jalousies and screens, what fun…!!! 8-)

Evening CT-a man who does windows, be still my heart!!!

The Tide has one more shot at tying…!!! ;-)

Maybe we should run an ad of our own and see if we can get censured, too. Think of the money we could make.

Good evening RevDeb. Good to see you.

This is rockin’
Nobody But Me
George Thorogood

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mK0NMYJycgs

CTuttle @ 248

madmommy @ 242

Evening CT-a man who does windows, be still my heart!!!

The Tide has one more shot at tying…!!! ;-)

They’re killing me :P

Loo Hoo. @ 246

Samsa @ 222

I’ve raised and contributed so much money over the years for Dems that it makes me sick. I decided this week that I will send all of my money to MoveOn from now on. I couldn’t be more pissed at the Dems in congress.

That’s where my contribution went this month too. Good for you!

MoveOn got the bulk, but Chris Dodd and Sam Bennett earned some scratch over the last couple of days too.

marymccurnin @ 249

Maybe we should run an ad of our own and see if we can get censured, too. Think of the money we could make.

Not a bad idea, with all the talent around here it should be cake to come up with something.

Holy shit, what a catch!!!

TexBetsy @ 250

Good evening RevDeb. Good to see you.

And you. L’ Shanah Tova!

RevDeb @ 247

TexBetsy @ 243

I do windows and mac.

I only do mac.

The Vista is too narrow in the Windows.

Vista works on macs? I’m ignorant of Apples, always a windows man…!!! 8-)

punaise

marymccurnin @ 14

I lived in SF when Mosconi and Milk were killed. Diane Feinstein did a great job that day. She has been riding on that image ever since. Time to bring her down.

unfortunately DiFi Inc. (DiFink, DFNK on the NYSE) is an institution and virtually owns that senate seat. I can’t imagine any credible Dem taking her on. Yes, she deserves to be taken out. Not gonna happen.

Hey pups -

Did you know you can take a dump in your neighbors’ lawns so toxic it costs $500 million to clean up?

And DiFi will give you back 80 times the damage you caused - if you just promise to clean up?

So the next time ELF burns down an apartment complex, I guess DiFi will offer them 80 times the cost of the arson - if they just promise to clean up.

After all, she’s an environmentalist.

DiFi, working to give 40 billion dollars of US taxpayers’ Federal water to 500 wealthy families… in secret discussions.

While Arnold calls the State Legislature back in “special session” for “emergency discussion of…

health care and dams.

That whole “LA’s living in a desert…we need water” thing just kinda dawned on Arnold this summer.

While he was driving down Mulholland.

LA’s Metropolitian Water District…

the real power in SoCal…

the power of life in the desert…

the Lords of the Tap

…are smiling.

And north of the Tehachapis the 500 families lords of the Westlands Water District -

The same Lords of the Westlands DiFi wants to give $40 billion in return for the half-billion they us, the taxpayers?

They want us to pay for them to raise Shasta Dam and drown the upper Sacramento, McCloud, and Pit Rivers

The Lords of the Westlands demand that all US taxpayers cough up the bucks for them to extend their siphons dicks up the length of the state to do the dirty deed.

Talk about political juice.

Then the Lords of the Westlands can take the taxpayer-subsidized irrigation water and sell it at market rates to land speculators.

Or just lease the rights.

Because - after the $40 billion handout from DiFi, the Lords of Westlands need a handout, not just the land.

Yep, caught us all by surprise.

SoCal wants NoCal water.

Who knew?

Meanwhile, back at the slurpfest, the real rulers of California -

Big Ag, Big Land, and Big Water -

are seeding and subdividing and sprinking all over each other to the joy of their little nano hearts.

The Federal we citizens’ Our water that DiFi plots to give to the 500 families…

can flow out of the same taps Ahhnuld just figured out need water.

So the whole “emergency” water bond isn’t needed - unless you’re Ahhnuld’s backers in Big Land and Big Water.

Gov. “Water! Who knew?” called an emergency session to push 9 billion of water projects (5.6 billion in dams) on California…mostly useless boondoggles producing 1,200 dollar/acre foot water.

Gotta make sure Big Construction and Big Finance get a slurp, too.

Bottoms up!

(hey is that Sen. McConnell?)

CTuttle @ 257

RevDeb @ 247

I only do mac.

The Vista is too narrow in the Windows.

Vista works on macs? I’m ignorant of Apples, always a windows man…!!! 8-)

From what I’ve heard about Vista I am glad I bought a new ‘puter right before the roll-out.

madmommy @ 258

CTuttle @ 257

Vista works on macs? I’m ignorant of Apples, always a windows man…!!! 8-)

From what I’ve heard about Vista I am glad I bought a new ‘puter right before the roll-out.

Everything new Gates puts out is in the beta version.

CTuttle @ 257

RevDeb @ 247

I only do mac.

The Vista is too narrow in the Windows.

Vista works on macs? I’m ignorant of Apples, always a windows man…!!! 8-)

Vista is what you see once you clean your Windows!

Just got my first Mac a couple days ago, a MacBook. Trying to crash-course on making the switch…any advice or resources would be MOST welcome.

Twisted Martini @ 255

Holy shit, what a catch!!!

Shhh! Sports chatter is highly discouraged… Cardiac Sox have clinched a berth with their 8-6 win…!!! 8~)

Loo Hoo. @ 260

CTuttle @ 257

Vista works on macs? I’m ignorant of Apples, always a windows man…!!! 8-)

Vista is what you see once you clean your Windows!

Jalousies…!!! :P

CTuttle @ 263

Twisted Martini @ 255

Holy shit, what a catch!!!

Shhh! Sports chatter is highly discouraged… Cardiac Sox have clinched a berth with their 8-6 win…!!! 8~)

There’s a new thread upstairs, but only 1:50 left in the game. Hang with me here till it’s over?

marymccurnin @ 260

madmommy @ 258

From what I’ve heard about Vista I am glad I bought a new ‘puter right before the roll-out.

Everything new Gates puts out is in the beta version.

I’ve had Basic for a month now and so far, no issues. Very pleased with it.

However, this has not stopped me from seriously considering making our other machine dual-boot, with Ubuntu as the other OS. I don’t like being tied to one product.

CTuttle @ 257

RevDeb @ 247

I only do mac.

The Vista is too narrow in the Windows.

Vista works on macs? I’m ignorant of Apples, always a windows man…!!! 8-)

I don’t do Windows or PCs of any stripes. But the Macs of the past couple of years with dual processors can do windows as well as Mac OS.

Personally, my laptop is a Microsoft free zone.

NYT Mukasey opinion.

Mr. Mukasey has attributes that could make him a good attorney general. He has been a lawyer and federal district court judge in New York, where he enjoys a good reputation. Although he is not divorced from politics (he is on an advisory committee to Rudolph Giuliani’s campaign), it is unlikely that he would run the Justice Department as an adjunct of the White House, or a booster of the Republican Party, as Alberto Gonzales did.

Aspects of his record, however, are troubling. As a judge, he was too deferential to the government. In the case of Jose Padilla, who was accused of participating in a dirty bomb plot, he ruled that the president may detain American citizens indefinitely as “enemy combatants.” His dangerously narrow reading of the Constitution was rightly reversed by a federal appeals court.

Blub @ 24

I guess I’m not really surprised that DiFi voted for it, and I’m glad that Boxer voted against it, instead of skipping out on the vote again, like she did on FISA. I dunno what’s wrong with DiFi… maybe she needs an extended sabbitical.

Perhaps Jane should consider running against her :)

Her husband is a goddamned weapons mogul, that’s what’s wrong with this simpering insider. She’s a goddamned war profiteer and used her position on MilCon to make sure the man she screwed for the past 30 years to get a mansion and an easy lifestyle got plenty of DoD contracts.

That’s why all of this “new and better Democrat” garbage is a waste of breath. Once your inside you don’t want to come out. Washington is a money-maker for these people, and that’s why they crap all over those who support them, we were too stupid to get a real goddamned job.

ls at 19 says-”What happened to “I’m a Woman”…W..O..M..A..N..???? We are still here. Who was it that did the best version??? I just listened to Bette Midler, but she was so flat..I had to go…it wasn’t Rita Coolidge, it was??????? Long dark hair…kinda bluegrass??? Anyone?”

nicolette larson?

duh, LS’s song, raven got it……..should have read the rest of the comments—maria muldaur…not nicolette…….

They Didn’t want to Get The HSU stuff on them. I know a couple of them took Money From Mr Hsu