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		<title>By: Franny Ward</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/21/the-stumper/#comment-987543</link>
		<dc:creator>Franny Ward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 13:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Bush appears to live in a world all his own&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;No Jane, he is in a world of his own. I am appalled that this loser is the so called “President” of these United States..&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What’s our options? Cheney? Hell, he’s been bending the shrub over since 2000… When will we get it right?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p>No Jane, he is in a world of his own. I am appalled that this loser is the so called “President” of these United States..</p>
<p>What’s our options? Cheney? Hell, he’s been bending the shrub over since 2000… When will we get it right?</p>
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		<title>By: Adie</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/21/the-stumper/#comment-986547</link>
		<dc:creator>Adie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 02:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-986047&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Bluetoe @ 181&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Since most Americans barely have the intelligence of a lemur and the attention span of a gnat by Nov. of 2008 they will be on board the Republican Values Express.  Next stop, oblivion.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;you got yer front-row tickets &amp; lawn chair all lined up ready to go, have ya?  that should be a comfort.  you might want a book or 2 in the meantime.  have a look around.  see anything ya like?  take a g-o-o-d look.  what d’ya suppose you might be able and willing to do to save it?&lt;br /&gt;
Might not be a good idea to stand in front of that Rebubblekan X-Press train.  I think the engineer’s on holiday, mebbe gone pfishin.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;p.s., suspect even lemurs aren’t as stoopid as you suggest.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-986047"><em>Bluetoe @ 181</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Since most Americans barely have the intelligence of a lemur and the attention span of a gnat by Nov. of 2008 they will be on board the Republican Values Express.  Next stop, oblivion.</p>
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<p>you got yer front-row tickets &amp; lawn chair all lined up ready to go, have ya?  that should be a comfort.  you might want a book or 2 in the meantime.  have a look around.  see anything ya like?  take a g-o-o-d look.  what d’ya suppose you might be able and willing to do to save it?<br />
Might not be a good idea to stand in front of that Rebubblekan X-Press train.  I think the engineer’s on holiday, mebbe gone pfishin.</p>
<p>p.s., suspect even lemurs aren’t as stoopid as you suggest.</p>
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		<title>By: Adie</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/21/the-stumper/#comment-986321</link>
		<dc:creator>Adie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 01:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-985817&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;raven @ 173&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-985799&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Badwater @ 156&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
Yes…missed the first part is all.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hard to interpret isn’t it? Now if Quaker Girl says “So what” you figure she meant “So. . .what”. Badwater says the very same thing and it comes across like “Yea, so what”. And then if Adie said, “Is that ok with you” we all figure she means, “Oh, is that ok with you”. But raven must mean, “Hey jerk, why you buttin in here when we have been talking about this for 30 minutes”.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;hey guys.  i just got the toobz back (my turn ;-&gt;), &amp; stumbled headlong into yer gripin.  i can’t begin to tell you how frustrating it is to be ignored, or attacked for the wrong reasons, or???  I’m still waiting on responses from some regulars goin’ back weeks, no. months.  obviously not worth steaming over or even remembering, much less holding my breath. I always hated the idea of sororities in school.  Hated it that each individ. couldn’t be accepted on his/her own terms.  It just happens.  In a blog population numbering in the 10’s of thousnds, with “facebook” to help people with like interests to “clump”.  It’s a hard job to satisfy all.&lt;br /&gt;
Stick around.  Don’t you DARE leave this place.&lt;br /&gt;
‘kay? (Hint: if some concern of yours was not answered, poke the idea back in the channel again.  It’s hard for people to respond to everything all the time - they might have missed it.)&lt;br /&gt;
And, don’t believe everydangedthing you see on the news about prevailing attitudes in the country.  Right now there seems to be a whole lotta parroting of johnny-on-the-spot repubblekan talkin pts flying past our noses.&lt;br /&gt;
Puleeze don’t blame ALL Dems, ALL-a damtime.  I’m 66 in 2 days (woo hoo), &amp; I have no doubt you’ve endured far more than I in some realms.   We.Need.Eachother. In my personal experience, I’ve never seen things worse than now, a party more driven to do whatever they can to stay in power and enrich their own, in the face of whatever element of the universe they might perceive as threatening their personal plans - on any level, no matter how petty their own desires, or urgent the needs elsewhere.[imho, the rebubblecans as a party have lost their collective compass, any hint of compassion, yadda yadda… stone cold of heart &amp; out for self gratification of a type that would embarrass a kid in the 6th grade. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Stay.Tough.  Stay.Open minded.  Stay.Skeptical. STAY OPTIMISTIC &lt;em&gt;enough&lt;/em&gt; to put one foot in front of the other.  Puleeeze be extremely reluctant to tear down your peers, and members of the Democratic Party.  Listen to them. &lt;strike&gt;Make&lt;/strike&gt; Enable them to listen to you.  It helps mightily to figure out where they are coming from. That’s a start.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;imo, FDL is the best shot you’ve got.  Don’t be afraid to help the community here to understand your concerns.  They’ve been working steadily ever since I can remember, to improve the accessibility of discussion and convenient links, etc. for everyone.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Gotta go for now, and probably epu’d before i got outta the starting gate, but don’t you lose heart or go away. ‘kay?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-985817"><em>raven @ 173</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-985799"><em>Badwater @ 156</em></a></p>
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Yes…missed the first part is all.</p>
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<p>Hard to interpret isn’t it? Now if Quaker Girl says “So what” you figure she meant “So. . .what”. Badwater says the very same thing and it comes across like “Yea, so what”. And then if Adie said, “Is that ok with you” we all figure she means, “Oh, is that ok with you”. But raven must mean, “Hey jerk, why you buttin in here when we have been talking about this for 30 minutes”.</p>
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<p>hey guys.  i just got the toobz back (my turn ;-&gt;), &amp; stumbled headlong into yer gripin.  i can’t begin to tell you how frustrating it is to be ignored, or attacked for the wrong reasons, or???  I’m still waiting on responses from some regulars goin’ back weeks, no. months.  obviously not worth steaming over or even remembering, much less holding my breath. I always hated the idea of sororities in school.  Hated it that each individ. couldn’t be accepted on his/her own terms.  It just happens.  In a blog population numbering in the 10’s of thousnds, with “facebook” to help people with like interests to “clump”.  It’s a hard job to satisfy all.<br />
Stick around.  Don’t you DARE leave this place.<br />
‘kay? (Hint: if some concern of yours was not answered, poke the idea back in the channel again.  It’s hard for people to respond to everything all the time &#8211; they might have missed it.)<br />
And, don’t believe everydangedthing you see on the news about prevailing attitudes in the country.  Right now there seems to be a whole lotta parroting of johnny-on-the-spot repubblekan talkin pts flying past our noses.<br />
Puleeze don’t blame ALL Dems, ALL-a damtime.  I’m 66 in 2 days (woo hoo), &amp; I have no doubt you’ve endured far more than I in some realms.   We.Need.Eachother. In my personal experience, I’ve never seen things worse than now, a party more driven to do whatever they can to stay in power and enrich their own, in the face of whatever element of the universe they might perceive as threatening their personal plans &#8211; on any level, no matter how petty their own desires, or urgent the needs elsewhere.[imho, the rebubblecans as a party have lost their collective compass, any hint of compassion, yadda yadda… stone cold of heart &amp; out for self gratification of a type that would embarrass a kid in the 6th grade. </p>
<p>Stay.Tough.  Stay.Open minded.  Stay.Skeptical. STAY OPTIMISTIC <em>enough</em> to put one foot in front of the other.  Puleeeze be extremely reluctant to tear down your peers, and members of the Democratic Party.  Listen to them. <strike>Make</strike> Enable them to listen to you.  It helps mightily to figure out where they are coming from. That’s a start.</p>
<p>imo, FDL is the best shot you’ve got.  Don’t be afraid to help the community here to understand your concerns.  They’ve been working steadily ever since I can remember, to improve the accessibility of discussion and convenient links, etc. for everyone.</p>
<p>Gotta go for now, and probably epu’d before i got outta the starting gate, but don’t you lose heart or go away. ‘kay?</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/21/the-stumper/#comment-986139</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 23:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I know exactly what you mean by the guy who &lt;a href=&quot;http://cleveland.indymedia.org/news/2007/09/26960.php&quot;&gt;knows he’s unwelcome&lt;/a&gt; but keeps posting his rantings and ravings so that everybody can read him anyway.  (Cleveland doesn’t hide his posts the way we do in Philly, but it’s the same crap everywhere).  Sure would be nice to get him to shut the hell up, but we’d have to go to an approved-posts-only system as opposed to the present open publishing system.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know exactly what you mean by the guy who <a href="http://cleveland.indymedia.org/news/2007/09/26960.php">knows he’s unwelcome</a> but keeps posting his rantings and ravings so that everybody can read him anyway.  (Cleveland doesn’t hide his posts the way we do in Philly, but it’s the same crap everywhere).  Sure would be nice to get him to shut the hell up, but we’d have to go to an approved-posts-only system as opposed to the present open publishing system.</p>
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		<title>By: bhatten</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/21/the-stumper/#comment-986125</link>
		<dc:creator>bhatten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 23:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;To add the the “stumping” catch alittle of The Newshour to hear about the fraud and sleaze in the provision of equipment for the troops we are all to honor.  Just bargain and cheat their equipment as long as the fat cats are gettting rich and jobs.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To add the the “stumping” catch alittle of The Newshour to hear about the fraud and sleaze in the provision of equipment for the troops we are all to honor.  Just bargain and cheat their equipment as long as the fat cats are gettting rich and jobs.</p>
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		<title>By: Bluetoe</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/21/the-stumper/#comment-986047</link>
		<dc:creator>Bluetoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 22:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Since most Americans barely have the intelligence of a lemur and the attention span of a gnat by Nov. of 2008 they will be on board the Republican Values Express.  Next stop, oblivion.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since most Americans barely have the intelligence of a lemur and the attention span of a gnat by Nov. of 2008 they will be on board the Republican Values Express.  Next stop, oblivion.</p>
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		<title>By: TomR</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/21/the-stumper/#comment-986033</link>
		<dc:creator>TomR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 22:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-985642&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;SufiLizard @ 11&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Yeah, Bush makes Mel Brooks’ character in Blazing Saddles look like a brilliant leader. Too bad Bush is surrounded by all those minions of Satan. Which explains the difference between that comedy and our current tragedy.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;BLIND OPTIMISM&lt;br /&gt;
I tend to think of George W. Bush as the Ed Wood of presidents, and we’re forced to watch his “Plan 9 From Outer Space” again and again and again.  The one difference being Rudy Giuliani playing the lead role in “Glen or Glenda.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The manipulation tactic Sidney Blumenthal alludes to is seduction.  For more info on all of the manipulation tactics, check out the book “In Sheep’s Clothing:  Understanding and Dealing With Manipulative People” by Dr. George K. Simon.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;- Tom&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-985642"><em>SufiLizard @ 11</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Yeah, Bush makes Mel Brooks’ character in Blazing Saddles look like a brilliant leader. Too bad Bush is surrounded by all those minions of Satan. Which explains the difference between that comedy and our current tragedy.</p>
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<p>BLIND OPTIMISM<br />
I tend to think of George W. Bush as the Ed Wood of presidents, and we’re forced to watch his “Plan 9 From Outer Space” again and again and again.  The one difference being Rudy Giuliani playing the lead role in “Glen or Glenda.”</p>
<p>The manipulation tactic Sidney Blumenthal alludes to is seduction.  For more info on all of the manipulation tactics, check out the book “In Sheep’s Clothing:  Understanding and Dealing With Manipulative People” by Dr. George K. Simon.</p>
<p>- Tom</p>
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		<title>By: KestrelBrighteyes</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/21/the-stumper/#comment-985896</link>
		<dc:creator>KestrelBrighteyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 21:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;OH. MY. GOD.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/9/21/52726/1703&quot;&gt;http://www.dailykos.com/storyo.....52726/1703&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“In 2003, University of Lausanne theology professor Thomas Römer received a telephone call from the Elysée. Jacques Chirac’s advisers wanted to know more about Gog and Magog … two mysterious names pronounced by George W. Bush while he was attempting to convince France to enter the war in Iraq at his side.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Is there anyone who still believes this man has an ounce of sanity left??&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OH. MY. GOD.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/9/21/52726/1703">http://www.dailykos.com/storyo&#8230;..52726/1703</a></p>
<p>“In 2003, University of Lausanne theology professor Thomas Römer received a telephone call from the Elysée. Jacques Chirac’s advisers wanted to know more about Gog and Magog … two mysterious names pronounced by George W. Bush while he was attempting to convince France to enter the war in Iraq at his side.”</p>
<p>Is there anyone who still believes this man has an ounce of sanity left??</p>
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		<title>By: raven</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/21/the-stumper/#comment-985830</link>
		<dc:creator>raven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 20:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;My pup want to play ball, AMF dawgs&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: marymccurnin</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/21/the-stumper/#comment-985829</link>
		<dc:creator>marymccurnin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 20:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-985808&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;juslin @ 167&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;for the record - israel does nothing without US approval….wake up sheeple ;o}&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I thought it was the other way round.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-985808"><em>juslin @ 167</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>for the record &#8211; israel does nothing without US approval….wake up sheeple ;o}</p>
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<p>I thought it was the other way round.</p>
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