That is one fate we all will face, even if it is not on this mortal plane.

Who knows, in Texas there may be a law against fake cowboys…

Toby Wollin @ 141

According to Wikipedia, regarding Israel’s nuclear capability:
“Israel is widely believed to be one of four nuclear-armed countries not recognized as a Nuclear Weapons State by the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT), the other three being India, Pakistan and North Korea.[5] The International Atomic Energy Agency Director General Mohamed ElBaradei regards Israel as a state possessing nuclear weapons.[6] In a December 2006 interview, Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said Iran aspires “to have a nuclear weapon as America, France, Israel and Russia.”
Which I interpret that Israel has never said, “No, we don’t have them”, nor do they admit to having them. It’s all very ambiguous.

Here’s what ain’t ambiguous, at this bullshit chest thumping by what’s his name from Iran. . .good luck.

Israel and the right wing radicals have been “chest thumping” for years in regard to Iran. Ariel Sharon (before he was in a coma), Micheal Ledeen, Bolton, Bill Kristol, Cheney etc have all been repeating unsubstantiated claims about Iran for years now.

Juan Cole has interpreted what the Iranian President Ahminijad actually said about Israel and you can read his interpretation at his website “Informed Comment”

He did not say that “Israel should be wiped off the map”. This is the neo-cons cherry picking and misrepresenting again.

Why is your site designed so painfully inefficient that the reader needs to go through the prior page again when reading a story. It works, page one flows to page two, page two flows to page three….

Rather’s mistake was to vouch for documents he could not authenticate. MoveOn did a similar thing. It name called when there were more than ample facts to challenge Petraeus without the name calling. Petraeus has long been a shill for an administration that rids itself of critics like the General who said before the war started that we’d need seven hundred thousand troops. The facts were enough. We didn’t need name calling.

Contrast this with Bill O’Reilly the other day on the radio. He couldn’t understand Hillary’s and Obama’s refusal to censure MoveOn. That seemed downright unpatriotic to him. He made it clear it was his opinion and he was acting more in sorrow than in anger. Crocodile tears, sure. But it was effective and there was no reason to put our people in that position.

Maybe Katie Couric should link to this story. It could mark her big break with CBS. What’s she got to lose?

Probably keeping her perky littly yap shut about it was part of the deal that got her her job.

bobschacht @ 271

The first theory cannot be correct– the documents as Rather had them were frauds not in content but in format (the evidence of the typefaces, etc.) The contents of the documents, and the document forms, however, were factual.

I look forward to a trial opening up this whole can of worms. It would be great to see the real truth about Bush’s TANG disservice laid out in all its self-indulgent glory.

However, the tale does illustrate an important Rovian insight: The Executive can move swiftly, but Congress and the Courts move slowly. Even if all of Rather’s accusations turn out to be factually correct, and Bush is revealed as having been AWOL, it is too late. Based on suppression of evidence and obstruction of Justice, Bush has been able to serve two terms as President, f**king up our country to a scandalous degree, steering billions of dollars to his friends, and putting a financial squeeze on millions of poor and middle class Americans, starting an unjustified war of choice that has cost thousands of American lives and tens of thousands of Iraqi lives, and resulting in the maiming and traumatizing of thousands of American servicepersonnel, for which he should spend the rest of his life in hard labor, but its still too late to undo the damage.

Bob in HI

Bob – Not so fast. The typeface on the TANG memo is exactly the same as that found on other documents relating to Bush’s National Guard service. In other words, the famous talking point about Rather being too foolish to notice that his memo was created on a modern wordprocessor with a Times-Roman font is false. See:

http://www.dod.mil/pubs/foi/bush_records/

and especially note “Documents Released on September 24, 2004″ under “other documents”. The memo on page 6 of that pdf uses a proportional font identical to the Rather memo.

Thanks for the link and evidence. At the time, I was trying to follow the back story as closely as I was then capable of. The lack of push-back from CBS was quite surprising.

What is so mystifying is why that evidence was suppressed for so long. It makes the conspiracy against Rather at CBS even more stark.

It also makes Rather’s lawsuits, and the prospect of public trials that might draw this evidence out in court, a delightful prospect.

Bob in HI