Comments on: Morning Cuppa Missing Justice http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/21/morning-cuppa-missing-justice/ Firedoglake weblog Sat, 28 Nov 2009 18:49:32 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Jet http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/21/morning-cuppa-missing-justice/#comment-986093 Jet Fri, 21 Sep 2007 23:14:46 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/09/21/morning-cuppa-missing-justice/#comment-986093 <p>And now <a href="http://firefightingnews.com/article-US.cfm?articleID=27125">Rudy Giuliani</a> wants to make it illegal to criticize the military. Remind me again why we’re fighting them over there? So that we can have fewer 1st amendment rights in this country?</p> <p>Who could have believed it could happen, but it really is true, <a href="http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/14952564/giuliani_worse_than_bush">Rudy Giuliani</a> <em>is</em> worse than Bush!</p> <p><a href="http://www.newsday.com/news/local/longisland/ny-usrudy0619,0,7996765.story?wc">Rudy Giuliani</a> is an <b>asshat</b>!</p> And now Rudy Giuliani wants to make it illegal to criticize the military. Remind me again why we’re fighting them over there? So that we can have fewer 1st amendment rights in this country?

Who could have believed it could happen, but it really is true, Rudy Giuliani is worse than Bush!

Rudy Giuliani is an asshat!

]]> By: Diane http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/21/morning-cuppa-missing-justice/#comment-985770 Diane Fri, 21 Sep 2007 20:08:57 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/09/21/morning-cuppa-missing-justice/#comment-985770 <p>I am a little concerned about Bush’s statement that Congress should be worried about pissing off the military. While I believe we have made a good start down the road that could put the military in charge, I didn’t think it was something that the Administration would want to emphasize. So does that mean Bush makes his decisions with the thought that he doesn’t want to make the military mad? They work for the American people, who cares if they get mad or insulted….they are supposedly willing to die to protect OUR right to free speech.</p> I am a little concerned about Bush’s statement that Congress should be worried about pissing off the military. While I believe we have made a good start down the road that could put the military in charge, I didn’t think it was something that the Administration would want to emphasize. So does that mean Bush makes his decisions with the thought that he doesn’t want to make the military mad? They work for the American people, who cares if they get mad or insulted….they are supposedly willing to die to protect OUR right to free speech.

]]> By: H-Bob http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/21/morning-cuppa-missing-justice/#comment-985611 H-Bob Fri, 21 Sep 2007 18:41:33 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/09/21/morning-cuppa-missing-justice/#comment-985611 <p>Isn’t widespread cholera one of the benchmarks for the surge ?</p> Isn’t widespread cholera one of the benchmarks for the surge ?

]]> By: Bushie http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/21/morning-cuppa-missing-justice/#comment-985229 Bushie Fri, 21 Sep 2007 15:09:46 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/09/21/morning-cuppa-missing-justice/#comment-985229 <p>Do you really believe the 20 Dem’s voting for censure did so without Dem “leadership” (oxymoron or just moron) approval? </p> <p>Not that voters can do anything, but it’s time to realize the Republic is lost, Congress is one party with differing views, though their main purpose is power and money. Big money won!</p> Do you really believe the 20 Dem’s voting for censure did so without Dem “leadership” (oxymoron or just moron) approval?

Not that voters can do anything, but it’s time to realize the Republic is lost, Congress is one party with differing views, though their main purpose is power and money. Big money won!

]]> By: P J Evans http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/21/morning-cuppa-missing-justice/#comment-985222 P J Evans Fri, 21 Sep 2007 15:05:00 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/09/21/morning-cuppa-missing-justice/#comment-985222 <p>The GOoPers are like kids playing on the train tracks. They dare the train to run over them, and when it stops they get cake and ice cream to make them feel better - really, to make the adults feel better about almost hurting them. The GOoPers enjoy the attention and the goodies they get, and as a result, <em>they keep doing it</em>. The Dems need to stop rewarding them for their bad actions.<br /> Drive the f*cking train over them next time!</p> The GOoPers are like kids playing on the train tracks. They dare the train to run over them, and when it stops they get cake and ice cream to make them feel better – really, to make the adults feel better about almost hurting them. The GOoPers enjoy the attention and the goodies they get, and as a result, they keep doing it. The Dems need to stop rewarding them for their bad actions.
Drive the f*cking train over them next time!

]]> By: katherine Graham Cracker http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/21/morning-cuppa-missing-justice/#comment-985210 katherine Graham Cracker Fri, 21 Sep 2007 14:58:06 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/09/21/morning-cuppa-missing-justice/#comment-985210 <p>Betrayous won’t be an issue in the elections because he will have been fired before then</p> <p>He is supposed to come back in March… Shrub cannot allow that</p> Betrayous won’t be an issue in the elections because he will have been fired before then

He is supposed to come back in March… Shrub cannot allow that

]]> By: Shell http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/21/morning-cuppa-missing-justice/#comment-985178 Shell Fri, 21 Sep 2007 14:38:00 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/09/21/morning-cuppa-missing-justice/#comment-985178 <p>I think the Dems are doing this on purpose. Why? Because if too many (any?) Republicans come out against the war, they might get votes in the 2008 election.</p> <p>How many more service people will be butchered between now and Election Day 2008? Thousands. But it is a small price to pay for getting the Dems more seats.</p> <p>Do I believe this? Of course. (And remember — Nancy Pelosi said, about a year ago, that impeachment is “off the table.” Ask yourself why ANYONE — much less a House leader, would say this. Hey Nancy — if Bush were caught shooting YOU dead, would impeachment still be off the table?)</p> <p>It is right along with BONER’S small price comment.</p> I think the Dems are doing this on purpose. Why? Because if too many (any?) Republicans come out against the war, they might get votes in the 2008 election.

How many more service people will be butchered between now and Election Day 2008? Thousands. But it is a small price to pay for getting the Dems more seats.

Do I believe this? Of course. (And remember — Nancy Pelosi said, about a year ago, that impeachment is “off the table.” Ask yourself why ANYONE — much less a House leader, would say this. Hey Nancy — if Bush were caught shooting YOU dead, would impeachment still be off the table?)

It is right along with BONER’S small price comment.

]]> By: selise http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/21/morning-cuppa-missing-justice/#comment-985176 selise Fri, 21 Sep 2007 14:37:44 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/09/21/morning-cuppa-missing-justice/#comment-985176 <p><a href="#comment-985156"><em>Adie @ 125</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>I stand corrected if i’m wrong about the MoveOn ad vote, sorry. But I believe I’m correct about the other 2 votes. Either way, people need to be precise when charging out to hammer politicians.</p> <p>Yes Feingold is a treasure, and a brave one, and suffers from being mixed up with Feinstein all the time! Aaaarrrggghhhh!<br /> Even more mysterious, Sherrod Brown (OH), who probably votes the same as Feingold on virtually everything, nevertheless is often criticised by people who “assume” how he voted and guess wrong. grrr.</p></blockquote> <p>i agree with you about trying to be precise. but honestly, i suck a lot of the time… that’s why it’s really helpful to be able to throw things out here, get them hashed out, and then together we figure things out.</p> <p>most of the D senators voted against condemning moveon via the cornyn amendment but voted for condemning moveon via the boxer amendment - it’s a bit confusing.</p> <p>sherrod brown voted for the horrible MCA (kangaroo courts, torture, indefinate detention, no habeas corpus). he’s good in many ways, but he’s no feingold, imo.</p> Adie @ 125

I stand corrected if i’m wrong about the MoveOn ad vote, sorry. But I believe I’m correct about the other 2 votes. Either way, people need to be precise when charging out to hammer politicians.

Yes Feingold is a treasure, and a brave one, and suffers from being mixed up with Feinstein all the time! Aaaarrrggghhhh!
Even more mysterious, Sherrod Brown (OH), who probably votes the same as Feingold on virtually everything, nevertheless is often criticised by people who “assume” how he voted and guess wrong. grrr.

i agree with you about trying to be precise. but honestly, i suck a lot of the time… that’s why it’s really helpful to be able to throw things out here, get them hashed out, and then together we figure things out.

most of the D senators voted against condemning moveon via the cornyn amendment but voted for condemning moveon via the boxer amendment – it’s a bit confusing.

sherrod brown voted for the horrible MCA (kangaroo courts, torture, indefinate detention, no habeas corpus). he’s good in many ways, but he’s no feingold, imo.

]]> By: selise http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/21/morning-cuppa-missing-justice/#comment-985157 selise Fri, 21 Sep 2007 14:27:20 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/09/21/morning-cuppa-missing-justice/#comment-985157 <p><a href="#comment-985010"><em>selise @ 32</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>there’s a whistle blower hearing this morning on blackwater (<a href="http://democrats.senate.gov/dpc/index22.cfm">dorgan’s DPC committee</a>, at 10:30am). jeremey scahill is testifying, but i don’t know the names of the whistle blowers yet.</p> <p>i called c-span yesterday to request that they cover it (they were considering it).. but when i called back this morning i was told they wouldn’t have a camera for it. :(</p> <p>the DPC website might have live webcast (i was told yesterday that they were madly trying to get one up for today’s hearing)… but if they don’t have it live, they will post it to their <a href="http://democrats.senate.gov/dpc/dpc-oversightandaccountability.cfm">video archive</a>.</p></blockquote> <p>good news!</p> <p>there is a <a href="http://democrats.senate.gov/dpc/">live stream for the webcast of this hearing</a> - starting in 3 minutes.</p> selise @ 32

there’s a whistle blower hearing this morning on blackwater (dorgan’s DPC committee, at 10:30am). jeremey scahill is testifying, but i don’t know the names of the whistle blowers yet.

i called c-span yesterday to request that they cover it (they were considering it).. but when i called back this morning i was told they wouldn’t have a camera for it. :(

the DPC website might have live webcast (i was told yesterday that they were madly trying to get one up for today’s hearing)… but if they don’t have it live, they will post it to their video archive.

good news!

there is a live stream for the webcast of this hearing – starting in 3 minutes.

]]> By: Adie http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/21/morning-cuppa-missing-justice/#comment-985156 Adie Fri, 21 Sep 2007 14:25:20 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/09/21/morning-cuppa-missing-justice/#comment-985156 <p><a href="#comment-985097"><em>selise @ 103</em></a></p> <blockquote><p><a href="#comment-985077"><em>Adie @ 86</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>Many, MOST of the Democrats in the Senate voted FOR Habeas Corpus restoration, FOR the Webb Amendment, and AGAINST the condemning of MoveOn.</p></blockquote> <p>this me being a pain in the neck - again…</p> <p>most of the dems voted FOR condemning moveon. maybe i wouldn’t be so much of a pain about this, but feingold didn’t.</p> <p>and just like the patriot act, he was the only one. i’d like to see him get his just credit for another principled vote… and he actually stood up for the grassroots. good for him.</p></blockquote> <p>I stand corrected if i’m wrong about the MoveOn ad vote, sorry. But I believe I’m correct about the other 2 votes. Either way, people need to be precise when charging out to hammer politicians.</p> <p>Yes Feingold is a treasure, and a brave one, and suffers from being mixed up with Feinstein all the time! Aaaarrrggghhhh!<br /> Even more mysterious, Sherrod Brown (OH), who probably votes the same as Feingold on virtually everything, nevertheless is often criticised by people who “assume” how he voted and guess wrong. grrr.</p> selise @ 103

Adie @ 86

Many, MOST of the Democrats in the Senate voted FOR Habeas Corpus restoration, FOR the Webb Amendment, and AGAINST the condemning of MoveOn.

this me being a pain in the neck – again…

most of the dems voted FOR condemning moveon. maybe i wouldn’t be so much of a pain about this, but feingold didn’t.

and just like the patriot act, he was the only one. i’d like to see him get his just credit for another principled vote… and he actually stood up for the grassroots. good for him.

I stand corrected if i’m wrong about the MoveOn ad vote, sorry. But I believe I’m correct about the other 2 votes. Either way, people need to be precise when charging out to hammer politicians.

Yes Feingold is a treasure, and a brave one, and suffers from being mixed up with Feinstein all the time! Aaaarrrggghhhh!
Even more mysterious, Sherrod Brown (OH), who probably votes the same as Feingold on virtually everything, nevertheless is often criticised by people who “assume” how he voted and guess wrong. grrr.

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