Today’s WaPo has an article about MoveOn, but it’s really about the pitfalls of being a truth teller in a Beltway Establishment drowning in its own duplicity and lack of accountability.
The 22 Democrats who voted to condemn the truth tellers and provide the most dishonest Administration in my lifetime with a political distraction need a verbal flogging, but before that, they need a few reminders:
MoveOn did not lie to get the country into a needless, bloody war; Bush/Cheney did.
MoveOn did not fabricate a phony link between Saddam and 9/11; Bush/Cheney did.
MoveOn did not fail to plan for an extended occupation; did not fail to protect Iraq’s national treasures, did not fail to secure Saddam’s conventional arms caches or prevent them from falling into the hands of those likely to resist the invasion; did not disband the Iraq Army, putting thousands of trained/armed soldiers on the streets with no jobs — Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld did.
MoveOn did not install a pro-Iranian government in Baghdad and then profess shock that Iran was gaining too much influence; Bush/Cheney did.
MoveOn did not inflame Iraqis by authorizing torture and failing to set humane rules for Iraq detentions at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo — Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld did.
MoveOn did not authorize the presence of 20,000 to 30,000 armed mercenaries and did not force the Iraqis to accept their presence without any legal accountability to Iraq and did not fail to follow up with any legal accountability in the US — Bush/Cheney and the current acting Attorney General did.
MoveOn did not fabricate one phony assessment after another about how well things were going in Iraq — Bush/Cheney did, and Petraeus’ performance was just another example.
MoveOn did not extend combat tours and shorten rest time for our troops, stretching and exhausting the US Army and placing intolerable burdens on their families — Bush/Cheney did.
MoveOn did not mislead the American people about troop withdrawals by first increasing levels by 30,000 to unsustainable levels and then claim credit when it was forced to reduce levels by almost the same amount — Bush/Cheney/Petraeus did.
MoveOn did not divert our attention from the efforts to capture the al Qaeda organization and leaders who attacked America on 9/11 and did not start an aggressive war against a country that posed no significant threat to America or its allies — Bush/Cheney did.
It takes a specially heavy dose of amnesia to ignore all the facts and a unique brand of political stupidity to vote to condemn, not the perpetrators of these outrages, but instead the organization that has done as much as anyone to get the truth to the American people.
The American people have been fundamentally betrayed by an incompetent, thoroughly dishonest, and dangerously bellicose Administration. Everyone who is sent forth to speak for this reprehensible regime has eventually become either tainted or co-opted, their reputations shattered. Just ask Colin Powell.
It’s time for Congress to stop condemning free speech by those who tell the truth and start holding the offending regime accountable. Because if you don’t, the American people know how to hold you accountable.
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Good Morning, Scarecrow!
Good morning!
Let this be the next NY Times ad.
Good Morning Scarecrow.
Your fine essay is a great example of the pivot and attack mode that the 21 Senators and other cowed representatives need to do.
David Shuster accidentally tells the truth
when the spokeman fore moveon pointed out the ad had helped and done no damage ‘Shuster said
“well people here think it was a big mistake”
moveon: Yeah people in the beltway.
if the consequences weren’t so great I would just walk away
It’s a good think for Difi that this is probably her last term
solai @ 3
I’ll second that!
Speaking of attacking, Newtie, the Lizard Boy, is on Washington Journal showing how it is done. All with a reasonable tone and a smile on one’s face. What a punk…
It will be interesting to find out how much this ad and the bruhaha over it has raised for MoveOn. I know I gave more than my usual.
As for the 22 wimps with a d after their name. . . . fuggedabaudit, no more money for wimps who are so afraid of their shadow that they will not stand up for truth.
Well said, Scarecrow.
Reprising a TRex theme from a week or two ago,
Yesterday was white hot rage.
Today is despondent numbness.
But, tomorrow will be something else again.
Thanks for being here, Firepups.
Caw, caw! Good morning Scarecrow.
one thing Shrub said the attacks should come to him.
I hope moveon runs an ad saying president betrayus then
nonplussed @ 7
I still have a button with a picture of a newt with a red circle and line drawn through it from the old days. Thought I wouldn’t need it again but maybe not.
EPU’d from the last thread
Good Morning, firepups!
It’s cool with a light haze this morning in central Jersey, with another lovely day in the forecast. Many thanks for the happy birthday wishes from Egregious and other early morning Pups [yes, it was very happy]. I can only make a brief stop by the ‘Lake this morning–I’m off to deliver two more reports this morning, and draft a third, and get started on a fourth. Mr. NJP goes to visit his parents this morning [both are in the hospital–it’s the boomer life, looking after aging parents].
I’ve made a big pot of coffee, and there is some homemade cornbread on the counter [I use a little honey and brown sugar in my recipe–it’s delicious!].
Keep fighting the good fight, everyone. Justice and peace are our goals. Speak truth to all.
Work for peace, every day.
Why cant they vote to condemn Coulter, Hannity, O’Reilly? They viciously attack entire groups of people with their poison forked tongues on a daily basis while the goopers cheer them on.
Good morning Scarecrow! Very nice post – turning the tables on the liars in D.C. Venceremos!
-MS
Hey, Harry!
Hey, Nancy!!
HEY, DEMOCRATS!!!
If ever there was a post to Spotlight, this is it.
twolf1 @ 14
God forbid they do such a thing—they would be roundly lambasted by Coulter Hannity and BillO not to mention Rush. The wing nuts would be so worked up by them that lynch mobs would probably result. Or at least flogging with a wet noodle which is too much for our not so brave dem. congresscritters to bear.
another blockbuster! just one possible correction:
there were two amendments that condemned moveon, Cornyn Amdt. No. 2934 and Boxer Amdt. No. 2947
listening to statements made on the senate floor (via c-span2), the boxer amendment condemned moveon as well as the swiftboating of senator kerry, etc.
every D senator voted for the boxer amendment except senator feingold.
so, just to be clear on which senators voted to condemn moveon – all of the democratic senators, except feingold, voted to condemn moveon.
Is there a senate sponsor for a resolution condemning Rush Limbaugh & co. ?
Fantastic! This article should be forwarded to every member of the Congress by as many people as possible.
Have they no shame?
I guess not. Silly me.
as always, an insightful post scarecrow
if I may;
“moveon did not quote data that flys in the face of every report given to date”
“moveon did not insinuate a province that had nothing to do with the surge was a result of the surge”
there are a few others, but to be fair, it is patreaus that is called “betrayus” and to be on point we have to mention exactly why the the tittle suits him
correction:
this is wrong, a few didn’t vote… so, it should read: feingold was the only D senator who voted against the boxer amendment.
JML @ 19
Or John “small price to pay” Boehner?
Hopefully soon we can all move on from Kongress’ little hissy fit which in a week or so will be flushed out to the sewers of history.
selise @ 18
I think this talkleft post makes a good point about Feingold-Reid bill not getting much fan fair.
If I have one criticism of MoveOn, it’s that they exercise too much self-restraint…aren’t vicious enough.
Think I’ll give ‘em a few more bucks today.
Jim Clausen @ 4
Thanks — it was 22, so you’re reading my first hurried draft, written after reading the WaPo. I’ve fixed several typos, so refresh.
Uh, good morning everyone. What’s happening?
Jonathan @ 26
No need to be vicious; just keep telling the truth, over and over. Anyone seen the new anti-MoveOn ads? They were on CNN this a.m. — totally shameless. Will DiFi condemn them?
Nice bro. And you went light on them by not pointing out what they did to Max and Kerry.
Scarecrow @ 27
Good morning scarecrow. Every day in every way you get better and better :-)
I was pleased to see a couple of dozen folks wearing black and protesting the Jena 6 in front of the county courthouse here yesterday. There is a network of people getting news to the masses while the MSM twiddles its thumbs and gets their panties in a twist over MoveOn.
Now, I’ve got a sermon to write so I need to check out.
Have a good one everybody!
Good Morning!
If I can be so bold as to add one more to the list.
MoveOn didn’t out a CIA operative. Bush/Cheney/Libby did
My favorite moment yesterday came when Sen. Gordon Smith, a member of the “good Slytherin” moderate Republican faction, claimed that he’d been alllll set to vote for the Webb amendment getting us out of Iraq, but then that darned MoveOn ad appeared and he decided he just had to back General BetrayUs!
Since when the &%$*&%$!!! is the senate in the business of condemning free speech? Is there precedent for this??
going to be lots of outraged phone calls today friends.
oh and I gave $25 to move on yesterday: that’s $25 that COULD have gone to a democrat but not anymore.
i don’t give money to people who condemn me.
“The American people have been fundamentally betrayed by an incompetent, thoroughly dishonest, and dangerously bellicose Administration.”
to the rest of the world it seems that the American people have been fundamentally indifferent about all this …
Morel Hughey @ 32
nice add on, rather then “out” I would prefer “expose”, “betray” “disclose”…”layed to waste”
I don’t like “out”, it’s a little trivial compared to what they did to our country
twȝk @ 25
yeah, i saw that diary over at the great orange satan where it was cross posted and highly recommended.
i’m ambivalent.
on the one hand, i completely agree – ending the iraq occupation is what really counts.
but on the other, i don’t think this vote on reid-feingold was anything other than pure kabuki… not a genuine attempt to end the occupation (except maybe by feingold and couple of others).
and the reason the senate engages in kabuki instead of taking real action is that they don’t take us seriously (or worse, despise us).
so, at the moment, i don’t see them as separate issues. the moveon votes tell us why the iraq occupation isn’t ending.
… but what do you think?
twolf1 @ 14
Because it’s ok to demonize liberals, dirty fucking hippies, democrats, and anyone who doesn’t support the DC establishment.
I hate that I’m becoming that cynical, but over and over that point gets driven home. Watching the wurlitzer drive the faux outrage, and drudge drive the cable news is as depressing a spectacle I’d ever thought I’d see.
The only thing that keeps me sane is realizing that for all the dc bubble (alternate universe) discussion and analysis, the public isnt buying any of it. The DC set are representing a vision that is so far removed from 70% of americans. Eventually thats got to translate into different representation.
At least thats my hope.
BTW, I kicked in to FDL and MoveOn yesterday. Organizations like this represent our last true free and fair press. Thanks again guys and gals.
In case you missed it, Today Show had a major dust up, pro-con on the MoveOn ad this am. When we all know that some troops are quite valorous and honest, some are not: some are cruel, lying, etc. Just like human beings. So I have never understood that it is so prohibited/unpatriotic to say anything about the troops. I really do not understand Hagel who can call the Pet. show a dirty trick and then condemn the ad. What is he about?
raven @ 29
Yeah, I had 5 minutes to put this up, so I left out the other 235 outrages on Hugh’s list. I feel bad.
There’s no accounting for perspectives. We look at this administration and see the worst bunch of hooligans ever, and can’t understand why anyone would even speak to them, let alone enable them. And the DiFi’s of the world wake up and see a completely different world. The necons, a different universe, and the rightwing zealots, wake up in a different century.
I happen to agree, the only thing that will work is simply refusing to send any bill that does not bring the troops home
that WILL work as oposed to bills that can be vetoed which WON’T work even if they get through the legislators
Quite a list.
Makes one wonder what forces are at play in the minds of these 22.
They must have given the issue much thought, weighed the perceived pros and cons then decided to vote in favor of condemnation.
Its the pros and cons at play that are key to solving this mystery.
Someone better get to these people and demand that they start representing the will of their electorate.
They are worse than Republicans.
They are traitors to the cause of justice and world peace.
Republicans are simply sticking to their proscribed game plan.
The 22 Quislings should be excised permanently for this gross misrepresentation.
Scarecrow, you are clearly right and your post would make a great second ad. Most likely it won’t because MoveOn won’t run it. If the original ad were part of a one-two punch, the first intended to get the reaction it got and the second (though not aimed at Petraeus) to justify it, it would be one thing. I suspect it was a miscalculation, meaningless name calling that gave Bush/Cheney an opportunity to change the subject.
As for taking revenge on the disappointing Dems, that’s not realistic. Come November 2008 the most rabid of us can’t stay home, and can’t vote Republican, Green or Libertarian. The Dems are counting on that and they are right even though they are the problem, not the solution.
Scarecrow,
I agree that truth has the sharpest point.
MoveOn is opposed by vicious bastards, though.
Well said Scarecrow!
Donate the piece to MoveOn for their next ad.
Thank You.
democratic senators who voted for the boxer amendment:
Akaka (D-HI)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bayh (D-IN)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Boxer (D-CA)
Brown (D-OH)
Byrd (D-WV)
Cardin (D-MD)
Carper (D-DE)
Casey (D-PA)
Clinton (D-NY)
Conrad (D-ND)
Dodd (D-CT)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Harkin (D-IA)
Inouye (D-HI)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Klobuchar (D-MN)
Kohl (D-WI)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Lieberman (ID-CT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
McCaskill (D-MO)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Obama (D-IL)
Pryor (D-AR)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Salazar (D-CO)
Sanders (I-VT)
Schumer (D-NY)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Tester (D-MT)
Webb (D-VA)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
Wyden (D-OR)
i count 47 plus sanders.
why say 22 senators?
Ed Kunin @ 44
MoveOn has already followed up with other ads that accuse Bush of betraying the truth and other focused on Republicans like Kentucky Mitch. There will be more to come, and I agree with RevDeb that they’re probably getting lots of contributions to run more ads. It’s ad wars now.
Ed Kunin @ 46
it sure would. would turn the vote against the add into an asset rather then a liability, and …and it would disabuse them from another vote along those same lines…very very nice…scarecrow should offer it to them
we need to field actual progressives and get these weaklings out of office, we need our representatives to do what we elected them to do
if it’s ad wars,
we’ll win, those pro-war ads don’t do it for them.
I have another post ready, so MoveOn everyone. Just had to get this off my chest.
perris @ 39
I like betray. Seems right.
The Dems need a good pr firm to remind them of the message. Instead they continue to live in the Rovian world defining what is “supporting the troops” and what is “patriotic” with “progressive” being a term of derogation.
Selise @ 50.
Could you also give us the list of 22 Dems who voted for the other resolution?
Many thanks.
Jonathan @ 28
I agree.
In retrospect, I think it was a tactical error to include a mild ad hominem attack on Petraeus in an against the claims he’d be presenting on behalf of the administration; it gave the other side too much of an opportunity to pull the focus off topic. If they are going to attack Petraeus, they should follow it up with some really damning facts about his behavior and/or character.
For example, he took the job of running the surge, which was sure to kill a lot of additional people, knowing full well that it had, in his words in January, “at best a one-in-four chance of success.” He took the job simply because it came with a fourth star for him. IMHO that is not honorable behavior.
Also, to achieve his indicators of success, he is essentially paying protection money to the same Sunni warlords who have been killing American troops and who, per Greg Palast, have been calling themselves “Al Qaeda in Mesopotemia.” If the objective is as Bush says, the establishment of an Iraqi government that can defend its people, Petraeus is as much an obstacle to success as is Iran. Petraeus is for the Sunnis what Iran is for the Shiites; he provides them training, armaments, and money.
But the point is that MoveOn should really clobber him if they are going to attack him at all. They need to finish the job.
What I find jaw-dropping about this is the shift in our public ethic to condemnation of those who criticize authority. Wes Clark and the 22 Democrats apparently agree that we should all kneel before the altar of Established Authority. Criticism, no matter how justified, is condemned as “disgraceful.”
Well, I piss on your Senate resolution. And I piss on the Chimperor, whose willingness to politicize the military officer corps is the real disgrace.
JML @ 56
Ds voting “yes” (to condemn moveon via cornyn amendment)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bayh (D-IN)
Cardin (D-MD)
Carper (D-DE)
Casey (D-PA)
Conrad (D-ND)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Johnson (D-SD)
Klobuchar (D-MN)
Kohl (D-WI)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Leahy (D-VT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
McCaskill (D-MO)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Pryor (D-AR)
Salazar (D-CO)
Tester (D-MT)
Webb (D-VA)
Great Post Scarecrow!
The Left and Moveon need to continue to be vocal now, even more so. At the same time the straight forward spin free facts are so damning they should just be repeated over and over. And loudly!
Go Scarecrow!
“Just ask Colin Powell”? The list is a bit longer than that.
selise @ 59
Bush’s Bitches
So, which of Bush’s Bitches are up for re-election in 2008? It should be about seven of the 22.
As I said last night, the real shocker in Cornyn amdt vote was Leahy. I would love to hear what he is saying to his constituants.
Feinstein was a disappointment too. She had to reason to betray us. But then I guess is comes as part of her package.
The rest, well, just chicken-shit I guess.
wigwam @ 62 –
why hold accountable only the Ds who voted to condemn moveon via the cornyn amendment and not the Ds who voted to condemn moveon via the boxer amendment?
Great take on it by Michael Kinsley:
Forgive me Scarecrow for I have plagiarized you. I couldn’t beat your talking points with anything I could come up with, so I sent them to my Bush-Dog senator as you wrote them.
Scare Crow R-O-C-K-S!
Count me as a FAN, for sure, and screw all the BUSHIT BASTARDS AND ALL THEIR ENABLERS OF WHICHEVER STRIPE THEY MAY BE!
…and support MOVEON in any way you can!
Scarecrow @ 29
Scarecrow,
You have just written MoveOn’s next full page ad. Hope Eli is reading this! Like some of the add ons posted above too!
I do still think that the Dem vote was really centered at the Swiftboat Vets. This way, when the swiftboaters get going next year against Dems, the Dems can point to this “mutual vote” between Dems and Repugs and do the same resolutions back at swiftboaters. If Repugs do not vote in favor, then Dems can point to the utter hypocracy. The Dems could have used another strategy unfortunately. Self criticism, based on fact, is foundational to an open democracy. Epsecially foundational when the group making the observations is a citizen based group.
selise @ 65
I reply in the next thread. I’d prefer neither, but there was at least some method to that piece of the madness.
Still on the Move On ad. It’s two weeks now. I am beginning to think the ad has done more harm than good.
I smell a Turdblossom.
Scarecrow @ 70
yeah, but the boxer amendment wasn’t to defend moveon’s right to say what they want to, or to condemn bush’s war or his use of petraeus – it was to have the chance to condemn the kerry’s swiftboating (more than 3 years late) and what was done to max cleland.
it was about defending D senators – it wasn’t about defending us.
Yeah. Right.
All Move-On did was to create a fertile field to plant an apparently endless procession of distracting Republican stinkbombs in.
You can make this about the spineless Democrats all you want and you won’t be wrong. But you can’t make MoveOn right either. They might as well have been campaigning for the Bush/Petraeus plan.
Staggering, Brilliant compilation! Tragically, the Democratic party is no longer capable of doing anything in Congress that is in anyway threatening to the gooper program. And at the rate that they are declining in the Publics image, they are going to lose in 08. What Move On was able to achieve was the one goal that all the dems have not been able to do and that is to get Media coverage. Luckily, I don’t see them quiting.
Here is a question- Can we Vote for Move On for President?
billjpa @ 74
Love it! MO for pres!
AJ @ 73
This is corect. And I hope Moveon learns from this. It is important though that we give them both the message that they need to learn and that we support them. I just sent them 100 bucks and this comment.
BTW: Blackwater is back keeping the streets of Bagdad safe. Blackwater
Caw!! CAW!!
And Good Morning, thanks, Scarecrow.
Oh come on, we have no idea how to hold them accountable, because there is no viable 3rd party alternative, yet.
They can operate one millimeter to the left of the neo-cons running the country into the ground, and commit innumerable betrayals and sellouts, and we don’t have the slightest leverage because they know the magic of the”Least Worst” still holds co-dependent Progressives in the paddock.
realworld @ 76
i love what moveon is doing and i hope they keep it up.
Hi Scarecrow, this is completely EPU, but was hoping someone would write up the laundry list of atrocities against truth and publish it. I hope MoveOn takes this opportunity to take out another ad with a list such as yours posted above.
thanks!
Great post, Scarecrow. I know I gave $100 to Moveon yesterday. I notice several posts above commenting on how easily the Right Wing strategists have used the ad to divide us progressives from “our” elected representatives in the Senate, and I agree that’s a problem. But the GOP poisonous message people are always going to find something–you can’t stop speaking the truth because of their ability to get stupid or uninformed people to believe lies. Our job now is to keep trying to educate our Democratic senators on how the GOP plays the game and why the Dems keep losing. And Moveon needs to keep speaking the truth. Show the spineless ones what happens when you don’t back down.
Thanks for doing the heavy lifting. I just copied it and sent to my favorite Republican- talking-points enabler, Ken Salazar (along with thanks for his positive votes for habeas and Webb).
BTW, it’s never too late to send money to MoveOn. The money is the message.
Phoenix Woman @ 35
Please clarify. I spoke with Smith’s office and they claim he supported the Webb amendment. I was all set the hammer him but now I am not sure of what’s what with respect to Smith, my senator (in position only!)
egregious @ 17
egregious~ I thank you for providing the link to spotlight. I have never done this before, but this post was brilliant in its clarity and scope. It deserved to be spotlighted and so I did.
leslie @ 85
I’d never even heard of Spotlight but I did it too, and everyone should!
Yup- great post Scarecrow.
Great rant!! Quoting you direct elsewhere into red state and necked turf just to crap it down their throats!!
Uh, hope you don’t mind this ‘abuse’ of yer penmanship . . ;-)
larue @ 88
Oh, great. A little advance warning next time, so I can hire Blackwater.
Mods: put on your flak jackets: incoming likely.