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		<title>By: bob h</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/20/quiz-can-you-find-what-matters-in-the-pictures-below/#comment-984897</link>
		<dc:creator>bob h</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 11:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It would be wonderful to hear that MoveOn’s contributions are swelling due to this; I sent my $50 in yesterday.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Myrtle June</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/20/quiz-can-you-find-what-matters-in-the-pictures-below/#comment-984705</link>
		<dc:creator>Myrtle June</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 05:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-984491&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;rwcole @ 268&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I’m sick of the attacks on Pelosi and Reid..They’ve brought the war to the floor of congress again and again- but there aren’t enough votes to end the fucker…What’re they fuckin supposed to do- INVENT the votes?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’d prefer to see the attacks against Boosh and the goopers.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;No, they don’t have enough votes to override a veto BUT bush’s veto pen should be out of ink by now! That’s what they were sent there for. They can read the lies they were told just as well as we can and they can DO better with this run up to war. They should NOT be giving one once of energy to bipartisanshit! OR to the “terr terr fear fear” lies that have been exposed. Chickenshits they are! Every last one of them.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-984491"><em>rwcole @ 268</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>I’m sick of the attacks on Pelosi and Reid..They’ve brought the war to the floor of congress again and again- but there aren’t enough votes to end the fucker…What’re they fuckin supposed to do- INVENT the votes?</p>
<p>I’d prefer to see the attacks against Boosh and the goopers.</p>
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<p>No, they don’t have enough votes to override a veto BUT bush’s veto pen should be out of ink by now! That’s what they were sent there for. They can read the lies they were told just as well as we can and they can DO better with this run up to war. They should NOT be giving one once of energy to bipartisanshit! OR to the “terr terr fear fear” lies that have been exposed. Chickenshits they are! Every last one of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Myrtle June</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/20/quiz-can-you-find-what-matters-in-the-pictures-below/#comment-984679</link>
		<dc:creator>Myrtle June</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 05:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Seems to me I remember that the “Betrayus” originated from the troops. MoveOn sure didn’t make that up, its been around for awhile now!! &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don’t know what in hell Congress is doing bringing something as petty and silly as “Betrayus” to the floor for a VOTE!!! WTF is that about???!?!? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That’s protected under the Constitution and since it is what the troops are calling him, well, this “morale” bullshit is just that. Cripes, they’re not children off at summer camp or football camp …. they’re soldiers and Congress is sworn to defend the Constitution NOT pander to the bush crime family!!! &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What the hell are they doing?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems to me I remember that the “Betrayus” originated from the troops. MoveOn sure didn’t make that up, its been around for awhile now!! </p>
<p>I don’t know what in hell Congress is doing bringing something as petty and silly as “Betrayus” to the floor for a VOTE!!! WTF is that about???!?!? </p>
<p>That’s protected under the Constitution and since it is what the troops are calling him, well, this “morale” bullshit is just that. Cripes, they’re not children off at summer camp or football camp …. they’re soldiers and Congress is sworn to defend the Constitution NOT pander to the bush crime family!!! </p>
<p>What the hell are they doing?</p>
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		<title>By: rwcole</title>
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		<dc:creator>rwcole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 04:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’m sick of the attacks on Pelosi and Reid..They’ve brought the war to the floor of congress again and again- but there aren’t enough votes to end the fucker…What’re they fuckin supposed to do- INVENT the votes?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’d prefer to see the attacks against Boosh and the goopers.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m sick of the attacks on Pelosi and Reid..They’ve brought the war to the floor of congress again and again- but there aren’t enough votes to end the fucker…What’re they fuckin supposed to do- INVENT the votes?</p>
<p>I’d prefer to see the attacks against Boosh and the goopers.</p>
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		<title>By: rwcole</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/20/quiz-can-you-find-what-matters-in-the-pictures-below/#comment-984481</link>
		<dc:creator>rwcole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 04:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The move on ad didn’t succeed in ending the war in Iraq- it DID give goopers somethin else to fixate on beside the pigeon shit all over their suit lapels..&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Big fuckin deal–&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bottom line is- we’ve got chicken shit goopers who know damned well that the war and the deaths are pointless but they don’t have the balls to vote against the worst president in history- so instead the rail on about how immoral it is to call a general who allows his troops to die for political purposes an asshole..&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Shame on you you shameless goopers.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The move on ad didn’t succeed in ending the war in Iraq- it DID give goopers somethin else to fixate on beside the pigeon shit all over their suit lapels..</p>
<p>Big fuckin deal–</p>
<p>Bottom line is- we’ve got chicken shit goopers who know damned well that the war and the deaths are pointless but they don’t have the balls to vote against the worst president in history- so instead the rail on about how immoral it is to call a general who allows his troops to die for political purposes an asshole..</p>
<p>Shame on you you shameless goopers.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 04:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-983144&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;do-si-do @ 20&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-983135&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;TheraP @ 12&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;What’s amazing here is that everybody else has been called names or had their name mocked somehow.  But a general??? NO, we cannot play with a general’s name!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If this is not a sign of fascism, I don’t know what is!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I guess you missed the Honorable Senator Inhofe explaining to us that General Petraeus is “&lt;em&gt;not just a normal person&lt;/em&gt;” !!!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We’re not worthy!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We’re not worthy!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In a Democratic society the most freedom is to the common citizen.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As you are elected or enter the military you are MORE restricted due to limitations of that particular service.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Some people just think all the medals somehow make them more important. It doesn’t. It means you’ve been in honorable servitude.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Of course, we don’t want to slander all military men or politicians, but we can if we want — they’re our employees, not the other way around.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-983144"><em>do-si-do @ 20</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-983135"><em>TheraP @ 12</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>What’s amazing here is that everybody else has been called names or had their name mocked somehow.  But a general??? NO, we cannot play with a general’s name!</p>
<p>If this is not a sign of fascism, I don’t know what is!</p>
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<p>I guess you missed the Honorable Senator Inhofe explaining to us that General Petraeus is “<em>not just a normal person</em>” !!!</p>
<p>We’re not worthy!</p>
<p>We’re not worthy!</p>
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<p>In a Democratic society the most freedom is to the common citizen.</p>
<p>As you are elected or enter the military you are MORE restricted due to limitations of that particular service.</p>
<p>Some people just think all the medals somehow make them more important. It doesn’t. It means you’ve been in honorable servitude.</p>
<p>Of course, we don’t want to slander all military men or politicians, but we can if we want — they’re our employees, not the other way around.</p>
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		<title>By: schwifty</title>
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		<dc:creator>schwifty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 04:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Jane,&lt;br /&gt;
First you proclaim the realpolitische advantages of ignoring the tone of the moveon ad to “‘pivot’ (spin/yaw/bank/pitch/roll) and attack” on the moveon ad as a reacharound to your political proxy attack structure.. then the cheerleaders feign outrage when your utter lack of realpolitisches understanding explodes in your face as a gapingly vast majority of senators are &lt;em&gt;forced&lt;/em&gt; to maneuver to the wrong side of an argument. Yes, the majority was wrong today, but in the realpolitische sense that is utterly beside the point, no?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Will you now stay principled and on the right side of the argument and utterly negate the supposed realpolitische advantages of unquestioning fealty to your attack group? Or has your pragmatic exercise exposed itself for the Quixotic endeavor that it is? Will you recognize the scale of your grand &lt;em&gt;political&lt;/em&gt; miscalculation? Take the blinders off already. The complete and total political backfire has taken place, despite all the bluster and dissimulating from all the folks here that “know better.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The merits or lack thereof of the moveon ad are &lt;em&gt;politically&lt;/em&gt; COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT. The ad sank the democratic party into the worst kind of political jeopardy and today’s vote proves it. On balance, given today’s vote, was it still a good thing for advancing the progressive cause now that it has put 3/4 of all senators on record affirming Petraeus’ “loyalty?”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Tragic.. I’m sitting here Europe where the most conservative parties are to the left of the democrats watching you pushup pump rookies absolutely hamstring yourselves with the very worst of newbie mistakes. You can impugn the loyalty of a uniformed military man all you want, and rightfully so, but you can’t expect political gain from doing so, which is exactly what you all were expecting. Echo chamber indeed.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jane,<br />
First you proclaim the realpolitische advantages of ignoring the tone of the moveon ad to “‘pivot’ (spin/yaw/bank/pitch/roll) and attack” on the moveon ad as a reacharound to your political proxy attack structure.. then the cheerleaders feign outrage when your utter lack of realpolitisches understanding explodes in your face as a gapingly vast majority of senators are <em>forced</em> to maneuver to the wrong side of an argument. Yes, the majority was wrong today, but in the realpolitische sense that is utterly beside the point, no?</p>
<p>Will you now stay principled and on the right side of the argument and utterly negate the supposed realpolitische advantages of unquestioning fealty to your attack group? Or has your pragmatic exercise exposed itself for the Quixotic endeavor that it is? Will you recognize the scale of your grand <em>political</em> miscalculation? Take the blinders off already. The complete and total political backfire has taken place, despite all the bluster and dissimulating from all the folks here that “know better.”</p>
<p>The merits or lack thereof of the moveon ad are <em>politically</em> COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT. The ad sank the democratic party into the worst kind of political jeopardy and today’s vote proves it. On balance, given today’s vote, was it still a good thing for advancing the progressive cause now that it has put 3/4 of all senators on record affirming Petraeus’ “loyalty?”</p>
<p>Tragic.. I’m sitting here Europe where the most conservative parties are to the left of the democrats watching you pushup pump rookies absolutely hamstring yourselves with the very worst of newbie mistakes. You can impugn the loyalty of a uniformed military man all you want, and rightfully so, but you can’t expect political gain from doing so, which is exactly what you all were expecting. Echo chamber indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynn Lightfoot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynn Lightfoot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 03:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-983138&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;bg @ 16&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I hope MoveOn announces how much money from how many people has come in today.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I second that. I sent my donation before I began reading the comments on this post.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-983138"><em>bg @ 16</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>I hope MoveOn announces how much money from how many people has come in today.</p>
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<p>I second that. I sent my donation before I began reading the comments on this post.</p>
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		<title>By: bobschacht</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobschacht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 23:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-983321&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;CTuttle @ 177&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-983307&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;bobschacht @ 165&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;OT–&lt;br /&gt;
Hey, Firepups, it’s still &lt;b&gt;CONSTITUTION WEEK&lt;/b&gt;. Still time to do something!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Here’s my contribution (C/o dept of shameless self-promotion): an op-ed piece in one of Honolulu’s major newspapers:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://starbulletin.com/2007/09/20/editorial/commentary.html&quot;&gt;Follow the Constitution: Initiate impeachment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Actually, what I hope to promote in this article is our poor, tattered &lt;b&gt;Constitution&lt;/b&gt;, and what I’m trying to do is get our congress critters to take their oath of office seriously!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob in HI&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob, take a gander at this…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2007/9/20/1176/30114&quot;&gt;http://www.boomantribune.com/s.....1176/30114&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the tip. See &lt;a href=&quot;http://pd-hawaii.com/blog/&quot;&gt;my response&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bob in HI&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-983321"><em>CTuttle @ 177</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-983307"><em>bobschacht @ 165</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>OT–<br />
Hey, Firepups, it’s still <b>CONSTITUTION WEEK</b>. Still time to do something!</p>
<p>Here’s my contribution (C/o dept of shameless self-promotion): an op-ed piece in one of Honolulu’s major newspapers:</p>
<p> <a href="http://starbulletin.com/2007/09/20/editorial/commentary.html">Follow the Constitution: Initiate impeachment</a></p>
<p>Actually, what I hope to promote in this article is our poor, tattered <b>Constitution</b>, and what I’m trying to do is get our congress critters to take their oath of office seriously!</p>
<p>Bob in HI</p>
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<p>Bob, take a gander at this…</p>
<p><a href="http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2007/9/20/1176/30114">http://www.boomantribune.com/s&#8230;..1176/30114</a></p>
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<p>Thanks for the tip. See <a href="http://pd-hawaii.com/blog/">my response</a>.</p>
<p>Bob in HI</p>
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		<title>By: ccmask</title>
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		<dc:creator>ccmask</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 22:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-983407&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;TeddySanFran @ 257&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-983388&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;ccmask @ 242&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Today is the day for Soros to step up and put some cold hard cash in MoveOn’s coffers.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We are all Soros now.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;lol&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-983407"><em>TeddySanFran @ 257</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-983388"><em>ccmask @ 242</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Today is the day for Soros to step up and put some cold hard cash in MoveOn’s coffers.</p>
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<p>We are all Soros now.</p>
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<p>lol</p>
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