Though under intense US pressure, the Iraqis appear to be hanging tough on their plans to review the rules under which private US security firms operate in Iraq, following the incident involving Blackwater in which several Iraqis were killed and more wounded. Blackwater’s operations are still restricted, forcing US officials to ground themselves.
McClatchy reported the al Maliki Government will ask the Iraq Parliament to rescind Iraq’s agreement with the US forces that provides immunity from prosecution for US contractors, even if they back down from the immediate threat to expel Blackwater. This will test the notion of Iraqi sovereignty, and I expect the Iraqis to lose to the occupiers. Update: the Iraqis may have no other alternatives.
But while this is pending, the American embassy has grounded all US civilians, effectively preventing any travel by diplomatic persons or — I think — civilian reconstruction teams outside the Green Zone. That probably means many reconstruction efforts have essentially stopped.
The US will undoubtedly object to the immunity proposal, knowing that if it went forward, we’d likely see the Iraqis demonstrate how quickly they can reconcile their sectarian differences and approve major legislation, though this was not on Washington’s benchmark list. They may not agree on much else, but it seems they’ve had it with US mercenaries killing their civilians and behaving as unaccountable bullies and thugs.
Highlighting the underlying seriousness of the situation PBS’ NewsHour included a representative of private security contractors and The Nation Magazine’s Jeremy Scahill, who gave the normally sedate NewsHour the unabridged version of the perils of allowing large, unaccountable mercenaries to substitute for a regular military:
The fact is that they have not been held accountable. Not in one single instance has a mercenary been charged with any crime against an Iraqi in four years of occupation, not under the Iraqi law, because the United States gutted the Iraqi legal system. At a time when it said it was handing over sovereignty, they were saying, “You can [can't -- sic] prosecute these contractors for crimes committed in your country.”
They haven’t been held accountable under the court martial system, nor have they been held accountable under civilian law inside the United States. So either we have tens of thousands of Boy Scouts working in Iraq as mercenaries or something is fundamentally rotten with the system.
Ironically, General Petraeus and Ambassasdor Crocker may not have been in Iraq to deal with the total breakdown in security. Instead, they were giving the British government their “success” powerpoint presentations. As in the US, the Petraeus/Crocker message was that security has improved so much in Southern Iraq that it’s okay for the British to continue their withdrawal of British troops. But the reception there was different: the British, on their way out, are only too happy to pretend they believe this message.
And since the Brits have made up their minds to leave, no one seemed to notice or care about the article in WaPo that the security situation in Southern Iraq has significantly deteriorated.
Meanwhile, two Iraq-related developments of note in Washington. (1) Harry Reid told reporters that the window has closed for possible compromise with Republicans on troop withdrawal language. Shorter Harry: “The Republicans want this war? It’s theirs.” That’s exactly what MoveOn has been saying.
What’s not clear is what the strategy is next, beyond pursuing (2) Senator Webb’s Amendment to require the Pentagon to give our troops a period of down time at least equal to the length of any combat tour. That debate is just about to heat up, with the Pentagon still insisting they just can’t run an Army while counting soldier’s tour/rest dates, even though they obviously can. As seen in this Webb video (h/t C&L), he’s asking for our help with a target list of wavering Senators. You know what to do.
Finally, the good folks at CREW have given us a handy list of the 22 most corrupt politicians in Congress. Few surprises: 18 Republicans and 4 Dems on the list, including Murtha. Howie Klein notes that California has too many; lots of defense spending in those districts, I suspect, and that’s why wars are easy to start and hard to stop. It’s time to deal with that, too.
Photo: AP Photo/Mohammed Ibrahim
Related posts:
- US Contractors Held in Iraqi Jail for Green Zone Murder
- Changing of the Guard: US Troops Withdraw from Iraqi Cities; Maliki Declares “Sovereignty Day”
- Pride And Petulance
- No Nation Can Donate Liberation to Another
- Torture: Obama Heeded Maliki on Abuse Photos, Says McClatchy; What That Says for Our Occupation





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Good morning!
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Arrr, zed Aye, me parrot concurs.
they had to be in London for the Trudijulliannie fund raiser ….wonder how much they have donated?
msgop pimps tudi’s excellent london adventure but fails to point out the pentagon report
showing Betrayous lied
Nice piece crow.
twȝk @ 3
English to Pirate translator.
Could Scahill have actually said, wrt to the US handing over sovereignty to Iraq after having gutted their legal system, “You CAN’T prosecute these contractors for crimes committed in your country”? I know it’s in the PBS transcript as the way you have it, but it doesn’t make sense the way it’s written.
Caw, caw! Avast ye mateys! Good morning to ye, Scarecrow.
small typo in the quote.
“You can‘t prosecute these contractors for crimes committed in your country.”
twolf1 @ 6
:D
Ahoy mateys!
demit @ 7
I was about to say the same thing. Seems suspect to me.
It doesn’t seem as if anything substantial is going to happen here. Once the bribe money spigot opens up, Blackwater will be back doing whatever they want with no consequences whatsoever. There will be a bit of huffing and puffing, but probably not much more.
Sad. . . . Tragic.
When will this nightmare stop already?
Didn’t see the NewsHour piece but did see one Scahill did with a guy on Dem Now and wonder if it was the same mercernary representative; the organization had the word “Peace” in it. Yeh, right……Peace. :-( Was very impressed with the way Scahill handled himself.
Will call Dole’s office as soon as they open.
Good morning, everyone. I fixed the Harry Reid link, so refresh if your looking for that story.
Waccamaw @ 13
Same guy. Scahill was tough but effective. Judy Woodruff kept asking him questions, and he was ready.
the book on mercenaries in eyerack says 180k
Morning all — thank goodness for coffee. Can I just say that this morning? *g* I clearly need to go to bed earlier…
How is everyone this morning?
RevDeb @ 12
Morning Deb. The quote is correct, but I should have given you more context. Scahill is noting that when sovereignty was handed over, the promise was that it included ability to prosecute. But later, or separately(?) we forced the Iraqis to sign an immunity agreement, which made the original assurances inoperative. That’s what Scahill is trying to explain.
The Iraqis now want to rescind that immunity agreement — and actually have sovereignty. Where’s Rice? On her way to Israel, but don’t be surprised to see her turn up with Crocker in Baghdad. This is serious, and they know it.
Waccamaw @ 13
Quote off pbs site:
Poor Congressional Republicans . . . from this morning’s WaPo:
Kinda makes you want to cry, doesn’t it?
Morning crew! All of this nautical jargon this morning tends to get us old sailor types invigorated.
On topic however, the Scahill book, “Blackwater”, is highly recommended for any who have not yet read it. It is a real eyeopener! After perusing it, the recent events come as no surprise at all.
very surprising to see an extended discussion (14 minutes!) of blackwater with jeremy scahill and doug brooks on pbs’ newhour. as scarecrow says, that’s a sign that the Serious People think it’s an important story too.
such an extended discussion with a reporter like scahill is the kind of reporting i only expect to find regularly on democracy now! – in fact, amy goodman had both scahill and brooks on yesterday morning for an even longer discussion/debate.
and just to continue plugging democracy now! a bit more… jeremy scahill is also a DN! correspondent (in addition to a book author and Nation fellow) and he won his george polk award in 1998 with amy goodman for their documentary, “Drilling and Killing: Chevron and Nigeria’s Oil Dictatorship”
Scarecrow @ 17
Ah, yes, the context helps.
Did you catch the dark, gritty season premiere of K-Ville on Fox last night? A brutal, murderous security firm modeled on Blackwater uses mercenary thugs to enforce a nasty scheme to keep poor people from returning to their homes in New Orleans. As if Fox’s right hand doesn’t know what the left hand is doing.
Good morning, friends.
Is this a blessing in disguise?
(boy it’s cold here, might be time to close the windows, fingers don’t work)
Will this push things to a head in a way that Bush can’t control and cause the same effect as the notion that withdrawing will cause the Iraqis to “stand up”? Or am I in fantasy lane, cause in spite of the shambles the government is in, they actually are saying something for themselves..??? Help me understand, I feel so stupid.
Madison Guy @ 23
Blackriver
good morning, all.. coffee is almost ready.
doesn’t the money for the war need to be approved before Oct 1? me thinks Harry is going to wait until the very last minute… nothing like a little time pressure, eh?
Scarecrow,
Thanks for the context. That, if anything makes it even more outrageous—though not surprising. Which in turn makes it so awful there aren’t words left. Outrage fatigue has taken over.
On another note, my new little church started a Beyond War series and I heard that 35 people showed up—several from outside the church wondering about what kind of church does this kind of stuff. People are motivated to end this.
This AP story provides more background and suggests the Iraqs are backing down from the threat to rescind “Order 17″ which provides immunity. I’ve added the link to the post.
Madison Guy @ 23
It seemed to be a reality show, to me.
demit @ 7
yep you’re right. 8 mins into the audio… it’s hard to hear, so i can understand why someone doing the transcript might get it wrong.
The WaPo article has this:
Looks like another violation of Iraqi sovereignty to me.
twȝk @ 10
Open the door and lie on the floor said Barnacle Bill the sailor.
zennurse @ 24
It’s why we need The Scarecrow.
Good morning zennurse! Hope you are in good spirits today.
masaccio @ 31
If the Iraqis want to divide their country, let them. That is not our job.
It’s pretty hard to read about the most recent outrage of Blackwater’s. Here’s hoping Iraqis making a stand makes a difference.
selise @ 30
That’s interesting; if you’re certain, I can add a (sic). What’s unambiguous is that today, there is immunity, and that was his main point.
raven @ 32
For “Kicking Jack” Williams commands the Black Ball.
Give me some time to blow the man down.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 16
Mornin’ — thank goodness fer grog. Arrr!
Off to the office. Will be back soon.
Elliott @ 35
And sign the Rome Statute.
When are the Democrats going to stop debating bullshit policy with Republicans and start calling them out on their lies and criminal activities?
Christy Hardin Smith @ 16
Good thank you. Good morning to you!
Hi egregious!
Don’t ever take more than a day off from these toobz. While there were good reasons for my “sabbatical” and I read at least one paper a day, there is sooooo much that is missed. What a great gift it is to be able to be back and have the greatly expanded perspective.
Scarecrow, your posts are excellent, thanks.
Scarecrow @ 28
I still think it’s significant that the US grounded those in the Green Zone.
And it’s wide out in the press now.
Durbin’s speech in the Senate yesterday was good too, btw
Looks like the Blackwater story is going to tie into the State Department’s auditor, who is now under investigation. From that same AP story:
I’ll bet the Lioness (Marcy) is already onto this.
Scarecrow @ 17
i thought bremer’s order 17 was extended past hand over of “sovereignty”… was it ever rescinded? do i have it wrong?
zennurse @ 43
Good morning Zen — crisp nights we’ve been having, no?
selise @ 46
I don’t know the chronology. But when you “hand over sovereignty,” it’s a legal break with the past, and you have to renew stuff or else — Just a guess.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 16
I didn’t sleep. At all. I decided it was a Fitzmas eve kind of thing and today is going to have some kind of excitement, perhaps in Congress??? and of course, I have offered to see a few patients later on and have a doctor visit, so will miss the bulk of it.
Christy, totally OT, maybe sometime you would give us an updated pic of the Peanut. The last one I remember was two Christmases ago, and I’d love to see her grown up and riding a bus!! Not a biggie, but if you think it would be ok.
namaste
Hey, doggies… it is worse than we imagined.
“immunity from prosecution for US contractors”
equals a license for lawlessness. This shook my world, as my granddaughte leaves for school, I can only wonder at what we have done…
“A preliminary Iraqi report on a shooting involving an American diplomatic motorcade said Tuesday that Blackwater security guards were not ambushed, as the company reported, but instead fired at a car when it did not heed a policeman’s call to stop, killing a couple and their infant.”
I’ve had Scahill’s book on my nightstand for months. Haven’t read it yet. I don’t know if I can handle more bad news.
But, how ironic would it be if Iraq succeeds in getting Blackwater out of their country, but the U.S. continues to allow them to work here.
Scarecrow @ 47
Sacrecrow, I moved to Rockport and scored an apt right on Main St the beach, so I leave my window open at night and listen to the surf moving the rocks back and forth. The sunrises are just amazing and the breezes lovely.
Damn ingrates. They should be honored to die at the hands of American capitalists.
-GSD
[CHS notes: I know that you meant this as snark. But it would be best to publicly note that — otherwise it can be misconstrued by folks who don’t know your dry wit. Eh?]
zen at 49 — Probably not — we try and only use old pix of her for the most part, because I’ve spent too much time around people who would latch onto a photo of a cute girlie such as she. And I don’t like taking that risk with her. That’s why you guys have only gotten either old pix or pix where her face is obscured. Call me an overprotective mommy — but one who has spent far too much time around criminal types. *g* She’s getting awfully big, though…SIGH
Excellent post.
“Shorter Harry: “The Republicans want this war? It’s theirs.” That’s exactly what MoveOn has been saying.”
And I add, make them pay for it.
OT
Guardian’s take on the “Tasered Tease”.
Since when is tease an actionable crime. Dog, lighten up folks!
JEP @ 50
Looking around and listening to eyewitness reports from Iraqi citizens, there was no provocation for this. There was a car bomb nearby but that was a long time before and was not related. I understand that our troops have to rely on these guys for a part of their security, but this is just cowboy lawlessness.
Yeehaw is not a Foreign Policy.
OT – I’m confused – Ghouliani is raising campaign cash in London? I thought foreigners couldn’t contribute to our politicians?
trex showed a poll last nght that showed no change in opinion due to patraeauo
however it’s worse then nothing, approval actually went down, not up, not flat, I just got this from think progress
I thought that I recently read that Baghdad had “never looked so good” and Senator Lieberman said that it was perfectly safe to go shopping and didn’t I read that some Senator was buying rugs in downtown Baghdad? so what is all this weird “not safe to go outside the green zone” reporting about? Heck didn’t our great president just say that he would love to be a soldier in Iraq? (He was sorry he missed the bugle call during the Vietnam war). Look he would not want to be a soldier if it was dangerous. Is this once again Angry Left Wing Nazi Bloggers just saying its not safe even though they know it is safer there than at an airport in Minneapolis?
Christy has a new post ready. You have work to do, doggies.
I like much of what CREW does, but I have to disagree with some of their actions. There is criticism of John Murtha, calling him one of the most corrupt Congress kritters. It is ridiculous for CREW to claim that “threatening to block Republican earmark requests”, or “Murtha unnecessarily expanded the federal bureaucracy”, is evidence of corruption. Obviously, all “earmarks” should be ended anyway. Murtha had the guts to fight against the Iraq Genocide, when it was not popular. I have to choose my allies, and they may not all be perfect. But CREW is just full
of baloney on this unless they have something else on Murtha. This is not much.
There are other policies of CREW that are questionable. Their complaints against Vitter
and Craig are not about public corruption. CREW seems to want to be a “morality police” for elected officias, instead of letting voters decide issues regarding personal behavior. Remember, that CREW represented Plame in a lawsuit, that was a total failure. I suggest CREW focus on where we have real evidence of corruption, such as the Darth Cheney Administration.
Also, the John Stewart interview of Douglas Farah, author of “Merchant of Death” is quite worthwhile.
Christy upstairs on the Crunch Time efforts
oil isn’t the the only reason the Bush/Cheneybots took us into Iraq…
We have spent the last several weeks listening to both Republicans and Democrats report on what they did on their summer vacations. They all went to Iraq (most of them to the green zone)
We have also listened to our Reps and the Bush administration repeat that the Iraqi government needs to “step up to the plate”, “take responsibility” for their government.
The Iraqi government has demanded that Blackwater leave the country based on the crimes they have committed.
Will the Bush administration and our Reps “step up to the plate” and stand behind their demands or will they continue to undermine the Iraqi government?
The news of more chaos in associated with the departure of the Brit forces is troubling if it portends what will happen in the rest of Iraq when the US withdraws.
But this may be the reality… more fighting when the invaders troops leave.
Does anyone have more info about the nature of the violence in Basra?
Christy Hardin Smith @ 54
I absolutely understand, Christy, wasn’t thinking. (remember me? Pollyanna) Getting big is a nice thing, I think you have much to look forward to. School age was about my favorite, but now is very nice too (23 & 25) I’m going to NM in a couple of weeks to see my firstborn who I haven’t seen since we went from YKos last year to him. I can’t wait, I may make him just sit in a chair and let me look at him for awhile ;-)
good morning, pups!
i’ve got a few more pictures up – slow because blogger.com doesn’t like huge volumes of posts all at once.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 54
you are a wise Mother.
This is what I think she looks like
Scarecrow @ 36
well, i think so… but i’d suggest waiting to see if anyother firepup can confirm or deny my hearing of it… which may be biased by my understanding of what happened with bremer’s order 17.
bremer extended order 17 before stepping down. here’s the page of the CPA’s orders (scroll down to order 17). from order 17 (my typos, i couldn’t cut-n-paste from the pdf):
and here’s a wapo article explaining the extention of order 17.
i don’t know if order 17 was ever rescinded…but i don’t think there was ever a time when we were telling the iraqis that we didn’t have immunity.
would love to be corrected if i have that wrong.
Good morning Scarecrow and FDLers. OT: Yesterday, my copy of Naomi Klein’s new book, The Shock Doctrine arrived from Amazon. I’m a fairly slow reader and have only managed
to digest the first 20 or so pages so far. However, this appears to be an absolute must read for anyone wanting to understand the “Neocons” and the rationale for their often seemingly incomprehensible actions.
In a nutshell, Klein talks about Milton Friedman and his acolytes from the University of Chicago, School of Economics and their faith-like belief in and devotion to what she
characterizes as “Fundamentalist Capitalism”: The role of government in the capitalist state must be restricted to military defense and policing. All other activities must be performed by the private sector. Their philosophy and its consequences turned out not to be very popular with the general public and they have experienced difficulty in establishing their programs (e.g. Bush’s abortive attempt to privatize Social Security in the US). To overcome this problem, Friedman and his followers posited the idea of implementing their ideas in toto (as opposed to incrementally) in the wake of major disasters when the public is too numb and distracted to prevent this. Examples include Chile after the Pinochet coup, Sri Lanka after the tsunami, New Orleans after Katrina, and, of course, Iraq, where their plan included the actual creation of the needed disaster.
There’s much more, of course, and Klein explains her ideas much more fully and clearly than I can hope to. It’s the first book I’ve seen that establishes a context in which the the recent horrors we’ve experienced may be understood.
For any FDLers in the Washington D.C. area, Klein is speaking about her book this evening (7 p.m.) at the Politics and Prose Bookstore on Connecticut Avenue, N.W.
demit @ 7
I looked into this stuff about six months ago, and IIRC these security firms are untouchable by Iraqi court and by U.S. courts. IIRC they can be held accountable only by the U.S. military, which of course reports to the commander-in-chief.
Bilbo, let’s not forget the day of the Chilean coup.
9/11/73.
-GSD
What better way to honor the sovereignty of a ‘young democracy’ than to make their laws useless.
-GSD
Bilbo @ 71 –
not just the neocons who use bombs to induce shock, but also the neolibs who used more subtle means. sigh.
selise @ 75
Selise, indeed. Klein discusses this problem too. As I remember, she characterizes them as shape shifters or somesuch. GSD @ 73, yes, she mentions the irony of the date as well.
I fear what we see brewing for Iran may be along the lines of, “well, we blew it in Iraq and were unable to institute our economic reforms there because of poor implementation on the part of the administration. Let’s try anew, this time in Iran”.
These people are completely amoral.
Kathryn at 68
Great pics.
Saw much of what you captured.
Bilbo @ 76 –
i heard the extended interview of naomi klein on democracy now! with amy goodman on monday. excellent interview… convinced me it’s a book i’ve got to read.
It’s hard to believe Nixon (yes, that Nixon) said this:
–Real Peace, 1983
Too bad dumbya didn’t know about the “time has passed” part.
Wrong. Eisentrager did not say that all “enemy combatants” did not have habeas rights. That is a misleading, inaccurate interpretation of the case — and Kyl ought to be ashamed of himself for saying that on the floor of the Senate. Jeebus. Further, the Court was very specific to say that the defendants in question be fully informed of evidence and charges against them — which we are NOT doing with the people we hold at Guantanimo.
For folks who are interested — some more recent case law interpretation of precedents and the current arguments before the US Supreme Court are outlined a bit in this post from Big Tent Democrat at TalkLeft.
Another great story! Thanks. No fucking way should we be using mercenaries.
Late again–all of 7am here–but thanks for continuing the work, Scarecrow.
All of this is great, and immunity/lawlessness is a huge issue, and the NYT story is a big step forward.
What I’m waiting for is clear MSM inclusion of the Blackwater/privatization numbers with the troop levels/surge numbers. That, and the amount of money that is being spent on all of this.
It has taken its time coming to the fore, but in some ways the natural moment is right after the Gillespie/Petraeus September stagecraft. This Blackwater mess is the perfect muckraker story: an inexhaustible resource that is virtually untapped.
It’s interesting that we hear a lot about terrorist training centers in Afghanistan/Pakistan and elsewhere, but we don’t hear much about the Blackwater training camp in North Carolina and the fact that they wanted to open up another one in the San Diego backcountry, right down there in Wilkes/Cunningham/Issa/Foggo-land near the border. Any others?
The emerging accounts of this incident (not very well-timed for Bush and Petraeus, I must say) contain their own escalation of the problem. A car bomb went off “nearby”–mentioned in passing, but casual and common enough that it sets the stage. The Blackwater team apparently fired on a car that didn’t move out of the way, killing an adult and child. (Fear of car bombs at every turn.) The crowd started to react, not sure how, but the guards fired on the crowd. But the topper is that Blackwater helicopter air support was already there, firing on the crowd. We know they have a fleet of jets and apparently a fleet of helicopter gunships. What don’t they have?
Is each blogger now required to genuflect MoveOn.org, otherwise, he or she will be sleeping with the fishes? Regards to moneybags, Soros, at any rate.
Just another day at the office, eh?
This is the link for the action in protest of Rep. Kucinich being cut out of the debates
http://action.dennis4president…..ew/id_1451
I just got hired by Blackwater, and I’m leaving for Iraq next week. I can assure you that Blackwater will continue to operate in Iraq regardless of what the Iraqi Government says.
Is each blogger now required to genuflect MoveOn.org, otherwise, he or she will be sleeping with the fishes? Regards to moneybags, Soros, at any rate.
Uh, No. No one here sleeps with fishes, although I used to have guppies when I was a kid.
Chris Jones @ 86
As a prediction, this may be right, but the attitude that makes it likely is a good reason why Blackwater should not be allowed in country.
Regardless, I wish you well. Stay safe and try to do no harm. Things are bad enough.
zhiv — I understand Blackwater has small helicopters but not what I would call helicopter “gunships.” These are military exclusive, as far as I know.