Oh, for f*&k’s sake.
As Congress considers a series of legislation that would drastically alter the course and direction of the Iraq War, one prominent Republican Senator will be focusing his efforts on condemning the newspaper advertisement of an anti-war group.
The Huffington Post has learned that Senator John Cornyn, R-TX, will introduce a sense of the Senate resolution Thursday, criticizing MoveOn.org’s recent advertisement in the New York Times. The ad called into question the credibility of Lt. General David Petraeus, suggesting the pseudonym “Betray Us.”
Yes, whatever meager scraps of perspective the Whiny-Ass Titty Baby Party may have ever had have clearly gone out the window in a cloud of swirling fauxtrage since MoveOn printed their ad in the NYT last week. But ironically none of the Beltway Bobbleheads have any kind of problem whatsoever with Ari Fleischer’s pet propaganda project, Freedom Swatch, which is exactly what the Righty Screamers claim MoveOn is, a millionaire-funded pressure group dedicated entirely to spewing filthy lies and propaganda about the war. Imagine that.
Watch how this works:
WASHINGTON, Sept. 13 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ — Today Freedom’s Watch released a new television ad condemning the recent tactics used by the anti-victory group MoveOn.org. The Freedom’s Watch ad specifically takes issue with MoveOn.org’s accusation of betrayal against General David Petraeus in a New York Times print ad this week. General Petraeus was testifying before Congress on the success of the recent troop surge in Iraq.
“The reason we produced this ad is because like many Americans we are disgusted by the outrageous tactics MoveOn.org has employed,” said Bradley A. Blakeman, President of Freedom’s Watch. “Several news organizations and political leaders have already condemned the MoveOn ad. To question the character and patriotism of brave men and women who combat terrorism everyday is too much, it’s in poor taste and it will not go unchallenged.”
Um, no. “Poor taste” is using a wounded vet in an ad that falsely conflates the attacks of 9/11 with the Iraq War and then sending your douchebag spokesman on TV without his ever even bothering to learn that soldier’s name.
So, jump forward to tonight’s Hardball where pudding-faced pathological liar Fleischer appeared with guest host Mike Barnacle. Barnacle ran the injured vet clip and immediately fell to his knees to fellate his guest and barrage him with warm, fuzzy softball questions. Except that Fleischer wasn’t even ready to swing for the softballs. In fact, he seemed to have come to the plate without a bat in hand at all.
On MSNBC’s Hardball tonight, former White House press secretary Ari Fleischer, who is leading a White House front group to defend Bush’s escalation, was unable to name the wounded Iraq veteran featured in his organization’s pro-war ad. “I don’t have his name in front of me,” said Fleischer when asked by host Mike Barnicle if he knew the soldier’s name.
Here is Eric Boehlert from Media Matters:
Tactics and etiquette, that’s what excites the Beltway press corps. And last week, the press loved the Republican tactic of campaigning against the MoveOn print ad. (“A brilliant straw man,” gushed NBC’s Chuck Todd.) And last week, the press tsk-tsked MoveOn’s lack of etiquette in raising doubts about a four-star general. As for the war itself? That kind of coverage can always wait for another week. (Newsrooms have little interest in chronicling what’s actually happening in Iraq. And FYI, ABC’s Nightline has now gone nine straight weeks without broadcasting a single substantive report from Iraq.)
But this is how Republicans work now. They constantly cast aspersions at the Democrats, using the troops and generals as human shields for their failed Iraq policy. They won’t (or can’t) cowboy up and face their failures so they spend all their time smearing the people like MoveOn who tell the truth.
And while they’re all throwing their arms out of the socket to wag their fingers at MoveOn, they’re cheerfully voting down legislation that would improve the quality of life for soldiers deployed in Iraq. Well, the Republicans and King of the Whiny Little Bitches, professional Nasty Little Man, Joe Lieberman.
Who does that? Who screams bloody murder about the Democrats “smearing” a General and then turns around and denies the troops the time at home they need to fight effectively, hold their families together, and keep from going insane?
The fucking Republicans, that’s who, to whom the troops are just props, “chew toys” that they don’t care at all about until someone else looks like they might be interested in them. But then, oh, then, they’re the most important people in the world. Until they need something like body armor, or rest, of course, or until they start telling the truth about the war in public. Then they’re traitors who must be slandered and maligned at all costs.
Where, oh, where will it end?



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hey TRex!
hi, TRex
I agree!
wangdangdoodle @ 3
With the headline… now to read the rest.
Fuckery! Fuckery! Fuckery!
what’s with all the fuckery?
Watch out folks, the OT police is here.
g’evening
Suzanne @ 7
But this is Late Nite!
But…why is the Rum gone?
Where’s all the rum?
I just realized today that the taser guy is one of my students.
General Wesley Clark about the Webb amendment. Worth the listen.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036697/
cleter @ 10
Well, be kind. He got far worse than his conduct could ever warrant.
demi @ 9
Not me…I was drinking tequila.
Evening, everyone.
I was just using my new name bestowed upon moi downstairs.
Cornyn is stupid. We need to get him OUT of Texas. He is horrible.
HI HI HI HI HI HI HI HI HI hi hi hi hi
Suzanne @ 7
I’ll behave! Evening, Ma Cheri!
Cornyn made a complete *ss of himself on the Senate floor today!!!
Hi, Snarkita!
TRex, if you’re here: I just wanted to tell you how much I enjoyed your Ramona Quimby post from last night. I wasn’t around to tell you then. It was awesome.
(((((((TRex!)))))))
If the Rethugs keep voting against measures to help our troops, they’re going to run out of troops to fight their glorious war.
Suzanne @ 14
Don’t confuse me. It’s no fun for me and no challenge for you.
SnarKassandra @ 15
Hello. Iowa doesn’t want him.
EvilDrPuma @ 12
Was. Last semester. He was a good writer.
SnarKassandra @ 15
Aloha, Cassie! I agree 100% with ya!!!
cleter @ 23
Gotcha.
SnarKassandra @ 15
Hell, don’t give him to us. Florida has enough problems.
It’s an advertisement. In a newspaper.
TeddySanFran @ 27
But, Teddy, they get to whine about something.
“It is the sense of the United States Senate that we really, really Hate MoveOn.Org.”
My tax dollars are paying this douchebag for the production of legislation like this?
Kathleen @ 11
I saw that. The sh*thead that he was debating was a nasty person. Told Wesley Clark that he was using his political hat when speaking. If I could have I would have put my hand through the screen and choked the SOB.
Great 502, TRex.
TeddySanFran @ 27
Exactly, Free Speech! err… somewhat free…!!!
Welcome Suzanne -
With the BayArea winds tonight, I’m glad you didn’t dive.
Any rain your way tonight?
CTuttle @ 32
But it costs a lot of money to have your free speech in the N Y Times!
Suzanne @ 31
That’s right, I missed my chance with 501.
::static:: One Adam-12, One Adam-12, we have a 502 in progress…
TeddySanFran @ 27
Dude! You don’t understand! It’s an EVIL advertisement. In a EVIL newspaper. Why do you hate our freedoms, and the be-medalled, man-musked manly men from whom those freedoms flow?
Suzanne @ 31
502?
The Reps who “betrayed” the troops today by not voting for the much needed down time, would vote no if a Rep. drew up new draft legislation.
Sure hope we hear what soldiers think about the vote
Exactly, Trex. Faux outrage for trivial things, but real problems must be ignored. Body armor shortage-who cares. Burned out troops having their lives fall apart when they’re lucky enough to return home-republics can’t be bothered. Habeas Corpus getting tossed out the window-the goopers don’t even notice.
Now, if someone fights back with an *gasp* ad, they act as if the world is about stop spinning on it’s access.
Fuckery, all of it.
Cornyn and a group calling itself FREEDOM Watch want Congress to pass a sense of the House resolution in opposition to the concept of free political speech. OK. Sure. Why not? We already arrest people for wearing anti-shrub t-shirts at ralleys, corral protestors into free speech zones, block our troops from getting access to progressive websites, put peace groups on terror watch lists and start whispering campaigns against musicians who dare sing about anything other than love and ennui. Sure, why not: let freedom ring…
Tithonia @ 18
Aw, thanks.
T fuckin’ Rex!!!
CTuttle@16
Down here in Texas, my Dad always told me that the good Lord made a hell of a lot more horse’s asses than he did horses. I expect Cornyn pretty much bears that out…
SnarKassandra @ 34
And, as we know, the Republicans thought they already HAD all the money!
SnarKassandra @ 34
Duly noted, Snarky!!! :P
“Using the troops as human shields” is spot on.
CTuttle @ 32
Ack! The taser!
Hey ya’ll. Another great post TRex. I wasn’t holding out alot of hope on the Habeas or Webb bills, but it is still so demoralizing to see the numbers.
As I was driving home tonight I had on talk radio. The host was talking about the assaults to the Constitution recently, so I thought he was refering to Habeas. Wrong. His version of an assault to the Constitution was the vote on giving DC residents representation in Congress. THAT had him all in a lather, but the systematic dismantling of the Constitution? Not so much. Last time I checked, DC residents are tax-paying citizens of the USA. Why would they not be entitled to representation in Congress like every other tax-paying citizen? My head hurts, and I am sickened by the thought that these people are dithering about in Washington while real people’s lives are at stake. I can help but think that if more Congress members had some “skin in the game” they wouldn’t be so free and easy with other people’s kids.
cleter @ 23
Under breaking news at JTA an article about the student who was do you say “tased”?
TheOtherWA @ 39
Cluckery, all of it.
It is plain, simple fuckery, what is being done in this “sense of the Senate” resolution. They’re attemptimg to organize similar fuckery in a move in the US House against Rep. Jim Moran for his article in defense of Mearsheimer and Walt at the conclusion of Rabbi Michael Lerner’s article on the “lobby which must not be named at fdl” in Rabbi Lerner’s recent issue of the excellent Tikkun Magazine.
Slight chance of thundestorms down here, kirk – you have a higher likelihood of showers than i do but… ya never can tell
i’m going to be off sulking in my corner. anyone need anything, just holler.
Evening all. WTAB indeed. No plans, no ideas, no clue.
Tithonia @ 45
Heh. The Repubs would HATE that characterization, which must mean that it’s true.
sorry.. said House, meant Senate. Isn’t the Senate supposed to be the thoughtful chamber?
TRex, You have been above and beyond fantastic lately.. As always, thank you so much.
Suz, why sulking?
nonplussed @ 42
I gots to remember that one!!! My step-dad is from Bay Town… ;-)
so…a PAC running an ad has Cornyn in a twist, while I am sure it is safe to assume he was ok with the Swiftboat Veterans…Cornyn, if you have something of substance to add to the discussion about this debacle you have helped create, let’s hear it. Otherwise, just STFU for five minutes!
Wow. Showing anger in public.
kirk murphy @ 33
Yikes.
Looks like a big cold storm coming down.
The mister’s changin’ the windshield wipers as we speak.
And, I gotta a nice little fire going in the f’place.
AND it’s not the Official End Of Summer Yet.
No Global warming here in sunny LA.
Suzanne @ 51
It rained like mad here in SAC. We peered out of the windows in astonishment. What is that falling out of the sky? And it thundered. The salmon in the A. River are happy tonight.
Blub @ 54
They’re full of something.
TRex sez…
Gene Autry sez…
’nuff said.
nonplussed @ 42
In Oklahoma, we always said, “God loves Assholes, that’s why he made so many of them.”
Brilliant post, TRex
and “poor taste” is running ads against a Senator who left three limbs on the battlefield in Vietnam…with Osama’s picture superimposed.
The megacorps/GOP care for nothing but power, and will exploit any symbol (the family, the nation, the military, firefighters, the English language) towards that goal.
For the megacorps/GOP, the symbols are just collateral damage.
For us, they’re our community and nation.
Dust for the megacorp mill.
If it passes, does moveon.org get a framed copy of the resolution? Because I’d totally bid for that on ebay.
Why doesn’t Reid force the Repubs to filibuster, instead caving in at the whispered threat of one. Let them, make them, stand hour after hour explaining why the troops don’t need down time. Not that the traditional media will cover this, but it will all be on CSPAN for net distribution.
OT and EPUed – have my pictures up from DC protest – click on my name. Thanks. and Loo Hoo and Teddy and all from last thread, thank you for your kind comments.
Blub @ 54
It depends on how many of the Republican Senators happen to be in attendance…
Suzanne @ 51
Don’t go off to a corner to sulk, stay here in the den and sulk with all of us. :)
Besides, I have wine. Would you like some?
wdd @62, I love that cowboy code. The Rethugs are in clear violation of all of it!
Japandrew @ 66
I don’t know. Seems doing the right thing just for the sake of doing the right thing is too much for these guys to handle.
SuzANNE.
I’m hollerin’ here.
Don’t go to the corner.
Pleassssse.
I didn’t talk here all day ’cause it was so damn cranky.
Just waited for tonight.
Hon, let’s have a good time.
Fire’s on.
*g*
Ah, cleter! I lived in Gainesville for 14 years, and to this day consider it my adopted hometown. I hope you like living there as much as I did.
Cornyn voted with Lindsay Graham’s filibuster to not restore Habeas Corpus rights (to you, me, and any detainee) and he is up for re-election in 2008. Goody.
{{{{Suzanne}}}}
FWIW, I thought I was the “Content Police” – so I did not respond.
Had I seen it as a reference to you I would not have been silent.
Thank you for all the hours you spend here to maintain the Lake community.
What makes the Lake’s threads – and hence the community – so unique is the environment you and the other mods work so hard to maintain.
Thanks.
EvilDrPuma @ 71
Even if the dems were to grow a spine and force a fillibuster, I’d bet that the speeches would be about any topic other than giving the troops needed down time. I am not up on all the procedures, but I was under the impression that the can read the phone book if they want to, as long as someone is talking. Am I wrong?
This song has really been an anthem to me lately. It expresses how I’m feeling perfectly…
LoudounLib @ 70
It’s printed out and pinned to my cubie wall.
Along with this.
;)
How come the dems don’t make it a big deal that the repubs are having fillibusters when they got mad at the dems for just considering having one?
Stay dry, Suzanne.
wangdangdoodle @ 78
Brilliant!
Hiya Jane!
nonplussed @ 77
Yeah, love that one. Says it all.
Suzanne @ 14
What’s your new name, Suzanne.
And RonD. Cheers! Tokillya!
EvilDrPuma @ 71
But it’s also, like, the politically effective thing to do. Someone elsewhere suggested they are afraid that if they start being too “partisan” and “uncivil” a certain Joe, who we all know just can’t standthat stuff, would bolt. But there must be one Repub of conscience, of with a desire for survival, they could pick off and get to cross party lines. And then cut Joe loose…
DrDick @ 83
Was just about to say the same. Great minds *g*
Suzanne,
It’s not the best version… but for you
Please, Don’t Go.
You can always get Funky.
I still don’t get it. Repugs can call anybody a “Osama-lovin’, queer-huggin’, anti-American feckin’ traitor” but when Democrats, Progressives, or otherwise non-Repugs folks fight back, the Repugs get the vapors and not only clutch at their pearls, but tend to dribble a little wee-wee down their legs.
We must be livin’ under a different set of rules I guess.
Shorter Repug Rules: “We gets to use guns. Democrats can only use feathers.”
nonplussed @ 77
Oh how I love that one, thanks non !
(sticking head out from behind curtain) i’m fine – not raining (yet) and i hope it doesn’t only because i still have my blue velvet chaise out on the deck covered with a tarp
Jane Hamsher @ 80
She has a collection of vintage diving caps. *s*
CTuttle @ 16
What? Sorry, I worked. What happened?
Kathryn in MA @ 67
Linked to these last thread, thank you so very much for sharing! A day brightener.
Woo-Hoo, Jane!!
I/P situation
OT police
Larry Craig
ACLU
OT police
A****I***** fuckin PAC
OT police
taser-happy cops
clueless John Kerry
OT police
skull & fucking bones
OT police
pick a topic…..any topic…….
Nothing is OT on Late Night……
um, right, OT police?
SnarKassandra @ 79
The only thing I can think of at this point is that they like getting slapped around. Or they’re trying to be all moderate so they can win elections the Steny Hoyer way. But I repeat myself.
(waving at good neighbor oddmommy)
I read on Mother Jones that Melvin Floyd Sembler is on the board of Ari’s Freedom Watch:
Frojm wiki:
Melvin Floyd Sembler (1930 – ) is the former United States Ambassador to Italy (2001 – 2005), and former ambassador to Australia and Nauru (1989-1993). He has also served as Chairman of the Board of the Sembler Company, which develops and manages shopping centers, and co-founder of Straight, Inc., a controversial drug-treatment center whose license was revoked by the United States Senate for “cruel and inhuman behavior modification.” Sembler has been personally accused of being responsible for the claims of serious physical and psychological abuse that went on in his centers. Currently, Sembler serves as chairman of the Scooter Libby Legal Defense Trust.
It’s a small world after all.
kirk murphy @ 33
Wow, was it windy today, or what? I mean, really windy!
Suzanne @ 90
And a lovey chaise it is.
Hey! Girlfriend!
TeddySanFran @ 99
Really windy down on the Peninsula – has been all day. Hope we get some of that nice rain.
kirk murphy @ 75
What Kirk said. ((((((( Suzanne ))))))))) {{{{{{{{ all the mods }}}}}}}}}
really appreciate all that the mods do.
SnarKassandra @ 79
That is the question of the year. Indeed, as Japandrew observes, the Dems need to force them to actually fillibuster and not just play around with this cloture vote nonsense. Given how much they bitched and moaned about the all nighter, I doubt many Rethugs would have the stomach for a real fillibuster (how long can you talk without stopping?). Be fun to watch them reading the NYC phone book into the congressional record. Would also give the Dems plenty of opportunity to hammer them on not really supporting the troops, or the American people, or anything else other than their own power and privilege.
Kathleen @ 38
Sure hope we get an accurate and timely count of the troops votes come 2006. Does anyone know if there is a group on this mission?
Blub @ 40
Can’t Reid tell him to take his stupid shit elsewhere?
DrDick @ 103
Does that mean maybe it is NOT really over?
LoudounLib @ 97
Hi LL! Crazy ass weather we’ve been having……nice now though.
nonplussed @ 42
Senator Durbin made it very clear what a hypocrite Cornyn was being, Senator Boxer did as well
Twain @ 101
I drove from Marin to Sac and the big rigs were blowing and drifting all over the road.
And, for any hungry firedogs here,
I’ve got bigass pot of SplitPea/Lenitl soup for ya.
I say, F*ck ‘em and Feed ‘em.
John David Atchison–Monday to late Wed. ?? Are loyal Bushies’
jamming the radar? Crossing state lines– Federal prosecution
of one of their own??
back to homework. bye
oddmommy @ 107
Hot again this weekend, just in time for fall. Waaaahhhh…I wanna wear my new fall clothes ;-)
It is a little bit off subject but with regard to the habaeus corpus vote today, it is really hoping for too much but the Dems need to at least threaten the ‘nuclear option’ with regard to the senate rules governing filibuster. The Constitution is at stake and in my humble opinion that trumps senate rules every day and twice on Sunday!! Presnit numbskull will veto the legislation but at least we will have the vote that shows what Constitution hating pukes these people are at their core.
demi @ 110
I’ll have the pea soup with some grated cheese on it thanks.
SnarKassandra @ 112
Good night, Cassie. Sleep well.
LoudounLib @ 113
what are those???? hee hee. 93 degrees every day this week!!!
demi, yummy — I love split pea soup!
Soup for me, too.
Is there any toast?
questioneverything @ 74
Both of ‘em are.
ccmask @ 115
Your choice. Italian Shreds or American Shreds.
Me went to the 99 cents Only store this am.
madmommy @ 47
Isn’t it impossible to believe that there are Americans not represented in Congress? Why doesn’t DC shut down until this is corrected?
LoudounLib @ 113
i wanna see the boosh admin wearing their new fall line – horizontal stripes of alternating wide black and white stripes or that fetching orange
TRex -
This ‘toon’s for you, darlin’:
http://www.creators.com/comics/bc/9882.html
Keep yer chin up, Suzanne.
This was my favorite song from…well from whenever he hell it came out. It should be good for what ails you.
That and this have been buzzing through my head all week.
I just love Feargal Sharkey’s talent for smoking and singing at the same time. Pretty unique.
The repugs know that the dems won’t be able to figure out how to respond to the Senate resolution criticizing MoveOn. They will flutter around a bit and some of them will vote for it. The dems could take some leasons from Moveon in aggressive courage.
TRex @ 119
Hey, for you baby, any kind ya want.
Garlic and butter?
Japandrew @ 85
Joe won’t bolt. He won’t want to become irrelevant this quick. He has to know he only has a year left.
Suzanne @ 123
So chic, and so needed…
Some asked here earlier what an Alaskan VECO Corrupt Bastard’s Club hat looks like. Voila!
The only reason D Senators are having trouble with Cornyn is because they wont call out the betrayal.. If they wont call out the lies or factual errors and involvement of Petraeus with the White House PR crew, then they deserve to be labeled a part of the very betrayal MoveOn pointed out in the first place.
As I understand it, “debate” will continue tomorrow on Sen. Cornpone’s “We LUVS Gen. Petraeus, and we HATES MoveOn.org” amendment.
I hope that when their turn comes, the Democrats in the Senate will have the good sense to…
ATTACK! ATTACK!! ATTAAAAAAAAACK!!!!!
Should I be offended by my congressman Dave Weldon putting this on his official tax paid web site?
Democrats’ Energy Bill: Consumers Are the Villains
weldon.house.gov
Loo Hoo. @ 122
The shock of his stupidity nearly made me drive off the road. Good thing my hands were at 10 and 2, and the little guy talking to the moon in the back seat helped me to maintain my composure.
Suzanne is Suzanne…There is no other sobriquet. Just as there is no truly ‘off topic’ post in Late Night…Only, perhaps, off-color.
‘Props to all mods’
What?…The snake oil thing didn’t work out? That little imp owes me coin of the realm, then.
;>)
Senator John Cornyn, R-TX, will introduce a sense of the Senate resolution Thursday, criticizing MoveOn.org’s recent advertisement in the New York Times. The ad called into question the credibility of Lt. General David Petraeus, suggesting the pseudonym “Betray Us.”
Cornyn is DONE. His JAR is around 43%
nonplussed @ 77
That one made me think of this one. If you can get past the refrain, the verse kicks ass.
Mad Dogs @ 88
I suspect those feathers are going to blow them away for thirty years come election time!
SnarKassandra @ 106
Depends on whether the Senate leadership grows a spine. They can always re-introduce both bills again and again and again. Actually much more effective to simply force the Rethugs to actually continue debating when they block cloture (which is a vote to end debate and vote on a bill). All the Dems actually need to pass these bills is a simple majority. They need 60 votes to invoke cloture, stop the debate, and force a vote on the bill. Forcing the Rethugs to actually fillibuster (continuously debate, potentially forever) would take a lot of the wind out of their sails. I really think that one of the reasons they have been playing this game is because the Dem leadership folds every time they block cloture.
demi @ 110
In that order…
Howdy demi!
SnarKassandra @ 112
Night Cassie. Hope you don’t have any more goofy questions to answer like yesterday’s.
Good evening dear friends. Did someone request soup and toast?
neurophius @ 132
Why is Majority Leader Reid allowing this foolishness to be debated on the Senate floor when the People’s business needs doing?
Show Me The Veto’s! (lots and lots of veto’s)
nonplussed @ 77
Thank you! says it quite well.
This one’s been expressing my outrage & despair … Uncle Sam Goddamn
TeddySanFran @ 143
Cause he’s a spineless little wanker?
TeddySanFran @ 143
He’s a putz. This has been another edition of “Simple Answers to Simple Questions.”
Ed*ard Teller @ 130
The best part of that hat is the “Government Exhibit” sticker on the bill. Bwahahaha!
omg db “off-color” — top 10.
Jeebus Fristing Craig!
GrandpaR, you just untied the Gordian knot.
I live in SF, work in the public sector…and have heard “empowering” often enough to know whatever’s described usually won’t power a penlight’s worth of change.
Your elegant reframe amy be the most empowering idea since the Constitution -
as will allow us to save it.
Fuck the Senate Rules.
Take Back the Republic.
Defend the Constitution.
Can I purchase this domain name? I’m hoping to turn it into a humor site. How do I find out if it is available. It was previously reserved by the guy who used it for his ‘06 campaign, but now it says it is “parked.”
newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 145
And I thought I didn’t like rap! That’s powerful, grrrlll.
Evening TexB!
“I’d like some white bread, toasted.”
Kucinich cut out of debate
Support Kucinich: Protest at Davenport Debate 9/20!
from the kucinich site
http://action.dennis4president…..ew/id_1451 /
As we know, Kucinich, who is the only voice for a single payer universal health care system, was not invited to the Harkin Steak Fry, a very important event for Iowa, and has been excluded from the debate in Davenport this Thursday. If anyone has the inspiration to go to Iowa, the plan is to protest at the entrance of the Adler Theater (136 E. 3rd Street/Davenport, IA 52801) where the debate is being held this Thursday the 20th from 5 to 7 PM.
If you’re unable to make the trip, please complain about this unfair decision to AARP (1-888-687-2277;
TheOtherWA @ 148
Can’t wait for the auction.
madmommy @ 153
and four fried chickens
Joe Klein’s conscience @ 128
More to the point, it doesn’t matter if he does. the Dems retain control of the Senate for the duration of the session. Operating rules, etc. are set at the beginning of the congressional session and are in effect for the duration. Dems keep all the committee chairmanships and leadership positions regardless of what happens between now and the end of the session.
madmommy @ 153
Sorry. I don’t do white bread.
wangdangdoodle@137
Hey, I like Guy! His stuff is fine. Best in person.
LoudounLib @ 156
and a Coke
LoudounLib @ 156
…and a Coke. ::cue Aretha::
LoudounLib @ 129
And so becoming with the matching bracelets and leg irons.
I can do that.
(I’m special, too! Please like me!)
madmommy *g* I need to watch that DVD again soon!
Ed*ard Teller @ 151
Add a 20 to the 08.
;>)
TeddySanFran @ 149
correction, teddy dear – that fucker is a top 3
*putting quarter in swear jar
I am not a short order cook.
Kathleen @ 154
Can’t be there, but I’m an AARP member, thanks for the number Kathleen!
Why Bush won’t attack Iran
http://www.salon.com/opinion/f…..9/19/iran/
TRex @ 163
TRex, we don’t just like you — we luuuuurve you. Seriously! Your snark is nonpareil.
oddmommy @ 95
I’m sorry, but I don’t consider that an appropriate topic for this foul-mouthed femblog.
TexBetsy @ 158
I’ve been getting the kiddos Sara Lee whole wheat white and they seem to really like it. The just will not go for the PBJ on brown whole wheat bread, so I figure this is better than Wonder bread.
LoudounLib @ 156
Jake? Elwood?
TRex @ 163
You know damn well we like you, Trex! Speaking of singing, how are those 3 YouTube songs you’re going to record for us coming along? The donations for Poppie’s pets? Hmmmm?
Kathleen @ 169
From Steven Clemons’ mouth to God’s ear.
T_Rex, any and everytime you post, I read.
Would it be against protocol to say that I despise the “pro-war” m-f*****s more and more each day? I know human beings are deeply flawed creatures – but, golly darn gee whiz. How low can we go. I suppose we will find out before Little Boots finally goes away. IF (big “if”) he ever does.
Keep on hammering.
TRex @ 173
DING!
demi @ 110
reminds me of teh joke:
Young couple just moved into neighborhood. Coincidentally, the neighborhood mail carrier was just about to retire after 50 years of faithful service. All the neighborhood folks got together and decided to do nice things for him on his last day.
Well, after receiving a gold watch, a new set of golf clubs, an engraved plaque, and various gift certificates on his rounds that day, the mail carrier came at last to the home of the young couple. He didn’t expect much, knowing that they were newcomers to the neighborhood.
And so, he was very surprised when the young wife greeted him enthusiastically…..ushered him into the kitchen where she had prepared a delicious breakfast……and then, led him upstairs to the bedroom……
When it was all over, and the mail carrier was about to go, she handed him $1.
Confused, the mail carrier stammered, “But….ma’am…..you fixed me a wonderful breakfast……made passionate love to me…..why….?”
The young wife smilingly replied, “Well, when I asked my husband what we should do for you on your last day, he said, Fuck him, give him a buck. Breakfast was my idea.”
Suzanne @ 166
Suzanne, at the rate you’re fillin’ the cussjar, it’s gonna need emptying into BlueAmerica pretty soon!
TRex @ 163
ahem *clearing throat* TRex, dear, what ever happened to your singing for those donations?
TRex @ 173
You got it. Some of the next lines include Aretha yelling at her boyfriend for “sliding around with your greasy friends”, IIRC
madmommy @ 153
Why do you want a Republican?
nonplussed @ 159
I saw so much free music when I worked at the ‘Dillo, I can’t bring myself to pay today’s prices. But for Guy, hey, I’ll keep my eye on the Chron for his next appearance!
LoudounLib @ 181
“They still owe you money, fool!”
neurophius @ 171
F*ck you.
Teddy, alas, being on a fixed income, it is the same quarter.
darkblack @ 165
Yeah, that’s the ticket. We may be needing your DaVincian skills, darkblack…
oddmommy, loved teh joke ;-)
Bad news. The video guy accidentally toasted the footage so we’re going to have to re-shoot and I’m going to have to (GAAAAAAAHHH!!) lip-synch.
I had no idea this project was going to turn out to be so complicated.
I figured I’d missed TRex singing while on Labor Day hiatus — I planned to check the archives for the YouTubes. Now I know we are all still anticipating his debut!
Suzanne @ 166
I’ll put in four quarters…Say something rude, it’s on me.
;>)
Ding!
Kathleen @ 169
This is a great article…
“One member of Cheney’s national security staff, David Wurmser, worried out loud that Cheney felt that his wing was “losing the policy argument on Iran” inside the administration — and that they might need to “end run” the president with scenarios that may narrow his choices. The option that Wurmser allegedly discussed was nudging Israel to launch a low-yield cruise missile strike against the Natanz nuclear reactor in Iran, thus “hopefully” prompting a military reaction by Tehran against U.S. forces in Iraq and the Gulf. When queried about Wurmser’s alleged comments, a senior Bush administration official told the New York Times, “The vice president is not necessarily responsible for every single thing that comes out of the mouth of every single member of his staff.”
madmommy @ 184
And then Aretha’s best line, after Matt Guitar Murphy leaves with Jake and Elwood: “Sheeee-it…”
darkblack @ 191
Fuck The Fucking Yankees
Kathleen @ 193
Yeah right. Making an “end run” around the President? Wouldn’t that be treason???
Kathleen @ 193
Well, he put it there.
;>)
So could Edwards and Clinton have really been part of cutting Kucinich out of the debate tomorrow? Who controls who’s in and who’s out?
LoudounLib @ 194
Standing there in her house shoes, then yelling at the girls at the counter “whatcho lookin at?”
madmommy @ 196
If you’re American, sure. However, Cheney has his people already preparing the legal case that OVP is its own sovereign state.
If non-stop outrage works then run with it seems to be the order of the day with the neo-nuts and GOPerRagers.
One could go back to 2000 and by turning what happened in November 2000 upside down or inside out place Gore and his camp where the Bushniks landed.
Want outrage? See how Gore putting in some big name DC DEM party “fixers” in the Florida game to “fix” things and a DC Supreme Court putting its collective finger on the scale to insure the “weigh tare/gross numbers” worked for Gore and sunk Bush.
Again. Want outrage? This chain of events and outcomes would have burst into combustion over and over right into 2004.
Throw in a toss of dice that rolls out to the same 9/11/01 outcome and Gore would have been damn lucky to not have been impeached during 2002 with Joe Lieberman then sliding into the WH Oval Office.
I will resist speculating on what Joe Lies would have done next. We know where he is now.
Anyway outrage(real or phoney) is a powerful weapon and it is certain the GoperRagers will milk it,play it and do countless rewind/hit play agains.
It is likely enough 2008 will be one damn strange time in American national politics.
It could perhaps become a remake of the Palmer Raids era or of the late 1940’s/early 1950’s “Red Dread Witch Hunts” in deeply condensed form or some recut/relooped version of 1974-75 American “get out quick/now!” again.
But do count on this outrage smear to be with us for the duration.
Facing the facts and truths would be so harsh now for the GOPerRager types that outrage and some good old fashioned witchhunting and scapegoating must seem a safe,last place of retreat and siege holdout.
Truth has become the enemy to these GOPerRagers and they are out to stop it before it stops them.
All this not being a good place to have come to or out at for all Americans to be sure.
EvilDrPuma @ 200
Dick Cheney is quite possibly the most evil, low down, scurvy son of a bitch that has ever walked the earth. IMHO
Early for me, but…good night all. The best of all possible tomorrows to you all.
TRex @ 163
When the smoke comes out of your gills, that is pretty impressive.
madmommy @ 202
“Possibly”???
g’night RonD, sleep well
Night RonD.
Trex, it’s a bummer the singing project has become so complicated. Good thing we’re a patient group, huh? :)
DrDick @ 205
There’s still Ghengis Khan, Hitler, Mussolini. But he’s right up there. I try to be kind when I can, but sometimes even my inbred southern girlness can only take so much. Would it be better if I said “bless his heart”?
It’s just their latest shiny object, but I think this one will backfire on them. The more they howl, the more effective the ad appears. Perhaps the next ad will mention the Generals’ “Mystery Medal”
madmommy @ 209
Apparently not.
madmommy @ 209
I’d never bless his heart, but I’d like to bless him out…
LoudounLib @ 194
Ed*ard Teller @ 151
What’s the domain name you want, ET?
DrDick @ 207
It’s just lunchtime in Tokyo. I’m stir-frying veggies if anyone hankers…
That was a joke, marymccurnin.
Sorry if you did not appreciate it.
This is Late Nite, remember?
EvilDrPuma @ 211
Actually, there’s nothing there to bless.
Japandrew @ 215
Mmmm, stir fry. Good eats at the Lake tonight.
Suzanne @ 186
What? …with a string attached???
neurophius @ 216
Pretty sure she was kidding!
Okay, gang. I’m outta here like Code Pink at a Congressional Hearing.
See you in a bit.
We can have our own vote here at FDL just like the Scowcroft/Brzezinski party described in the above mentioned article.
Who is with Brzezinski …The Bush administration will attack Iran.
Who is with Scowcroft that there is still hope that the nutcases will not attack Iran?
neurophius @ 216
I think you’ll find that Mary was joking, too.
Have a good ride home, TRex.
EvilDrPuma @ 211
Heart?
I’m calling it a night. Be excellent to each other.
Japandrew @ 215
Thanks, but I had lamb curry for dinner (local, grass fed lamb, slaughtered young – best I have ever had).
neurophius @ 216
my impression was that she was joking back
TRex @ 222
I’m so stealing that.
g’night EDP
I’ve spent most of the day recovering from a migraine (thank god/dess i don’t get ‘em more than once or twice a year) & my brain wasn’t capable of much beyond talking like a pirate.
Arrr! Demi, that be good soup fer a recoverin’ wench.
More silliness to help my recovery … any of you Monty Python fans who aren’t familiar with their buddies, here’s the Bonzo Dog Band Hunting Tigers out in India
Nite, EDP.
TheOtherWA @ 229
That was a good ‘un! I think I need to use that somewhere too.
newtonusr @ 223
OK, so the joke’s on me!!!
Gotta sign off everyone. The big kid just came in coughing his poor head off and looking and feeling feverish. It’s gonna be a long night.
*waving to all the leaving sleepy pups*
Oh, gosh, lookit that.
Fire’s gettin’ low.
Think I’ll go read.
Night RonDog and Everyone else.
Suzanne: (hearts)
ta
And may we all sleep well and find a new day tomorrow.
{{{{ ndfg }}}} sorry about the migraine, they are a b*tch! Feel better :-)
Night MM. Good luck with the young un.
good night to the tired pups
madmommy @ 172
Madmommy, they’ll eat it if they’re hungry. They have you trained, girlscout!
g’night madmommy and demi
Loo Hoo. @ 214
Darkblack found what I want. please refer to #187…
newtonusr @ 223
Honey, I am one of the late nightiest of people. Just ask Suzanne about the clown car joke.
madmom, fingers and toes crossed that big kid feels better soon
Treason.In.Deed.
Kathleen, sincere thanks for highlighting this.
At the same time, part of me wants to throw up and part of me wants to cry.
I’ve worked in a teaching hospital with more corridors than any building save the Pentagon…
and as one six staff in a small clinic.
Whatever vicious politics may have arisen, no one ever tried to off our own side.
Wurmser’s option is treason and every person who collaborated with him is culpable.
When Rethugs pule about MoveOn, hope to see this thrown in their face:
Cheney’s guy wants to have our troops attacked.
You’re whinig about a goddammned ad?
newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 231
Magnesium helps. Ever read the book “Heal your headaches”
http://www.amazon.com/Heal-You…..0761125663
Loo Hoo. @ 241
texteen won’t eat whole wheat either.
NDFG
I’m past recovering.
But, thanks.
Mean it!
marymccurnin @ 244
I guess we should get to know each other better! *g*
Kathy/Fozzetti @ 210
Mystery Medal? OK, I’ve been way too busy at work lately… what’s up with this!?
neurophius @ 250
By hanging out in a clown car?
TexBetsy @ 248
Simply confirms my observation that children have no taste in food whatsoever.
EvilDrPuma @ 175
I don’t look at this as a good sign at all. It appears to me that Bush realizes, allegedly, that he simply needs a something to go boom first.
That can be arranged quite easily.
It is just a sign of his lack of credibility that most of the world won’t take our word anymore.
-GSD
Honey, I am one of the late nightiest of people. Just ask Suzanne about the clown car joke.
NOOOOOOOO nooooooo (whimpering) you know what clown cars lead to…. (shruddering)
I liked when Justin signed off with “Think Peace” Beautiful.
DrDick @ 253
except ….. he thinks mom makes the best chicken soup, the best challah & the best brownies EVER! so he’s got good taste on some things.
Are there any Badger, Badger, Badgers in that clown car?
Okay, I know.
Going to read now.
GSD @ 254
Has anyone seen the Maine lately?
Suzanne @ 255
Hold the clown car order!!!!
DrDick @ 253
DrD, I used to worry about my middle nephew; when he was about 5 or 6, he just grazed all day on Cheerios out of a snack bag and refused all other sustenance at times, much to my sister’s dismay. Thankfully he’s 12 now and has grown out of that for the most part.
kirk murphy @ 246
Weren’t Wurmser and his wife involved with “Clean Break”(?) and Bibi? I am running out of tin foil.
EvilDrPuma @ 200
‘I’ll serve a Black Spot to the whole country full of ya yellow jacked swabs afore I careen it, bejabbers’
;>)
and in the news …
GOP rep: ‘too many mosques’ in US
from RawStory
New York Rep. Peter King, a prominent House Republican, said there are “too many mosques in this country” in a recent interview with Politico. “There are too many people sympathetic to radical Islam,” King said. “We should be looking at them more carefully and finding out how we can infiltrate them.”
Kathleen @ 247
thanks for the linky, i will check it out. Haven’t bothered much about headaches as i get them so infrequently, but as i believe all is connected, looking at headache triggers will probably help other aspects of health. My big health problem for several years was asthma, best help was/is seeing a top-notch accupuncturist.
Tried and true: Romey’s gay marriage ad
from RawStory
GOP contender Mitt Romney is launching a radio ad today touting his opposition to gay marriage. Romney, who has been hit by conservatives for being soft on gay issues in the past, says he is the only major GOP candidate backing a constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriage.
TexBetsy @ 257
Well those are all definitely good things. Perhaps he is at the age when he is beginning to develop good taste. ;-)
TexBetsy @ 264
I believe there are too many Kings in DC.
Steve-AR @ 262
along with Perle.
TexBetsy @ 264
OK, my head just ’sploded!!
Kathleen @ 193
I just want to know. Has the Congress alerted George Bush that he will be arrested for war crimes should he declare war on Iran without congressional approval?
LoudounLib @ 261
I have found that they will eat enough to keep them going, and cheerios is better than cheetos. The big kid is settled on the couch, and I am about to join him just to stay close. When he doesn’t feel good sleeping in his room is not going to happen.
TexBetsy @ 264
What an idiot. He knows no one in the FBI or CIA can speak Arabic.
jeebus, even when i proofread it’s hopeless.
NYPD denies Iranian prez wreath request
from RawStory
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad asked permission to lay a wreath at the World Trade Center site when he comes to New York City next week, but the request was denied, a police official said Wednesday. Ahmadinejad, who is arriving Sunday to address the United Nations’ General Assembly, had asked this month for permission to visit the site of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, police spokesman Paul Browne said.
Suzanne @ 255
no, what? Cats ‘n rabbits? Dromedaries?
Suzanne @ 7
Hmmm. Don’t taser me for this but I haven’t read all the comments but I did read the post (I usually do that first anyway) and I just have to post this:
“The Bush Republicans and their Democratic toadies have, in the name of “security,” made all of us powerless. While Senator John Kerry and his Democratic colleagues stand silently, the Bush administration has stolen our country from us and turned us into subjects.”
Paul Craig Roberts
When a guy from Ronnie Raygun’s administration starts talking like this you just know we’re in the Twilight Zone.
TexBetsy @ 264
Good grief. Speaking of tinfoil…….
madmommy, hugs to the bigkid from a professional auntie ;-) Hope he’s feeling better soon!
TexBetsy @ 264
Yeah, saw that earlier. Personally, the Christian Identity Movement and related groups scare me a lot more than radical Islam and have done a lot more damage in this country as well.
This disturbs me to no end.
ndfg, baby girl was part of the CHIMP study (childhood migraines) involving double blind placebo or magnesium supplements. turns out she was getting the magnesium and she gained significant relief in frequency, duration, and severity of her migraines. she takes mag daily as a supplement and continues to remain not migraine free but pretty close.
kirk murphy @ 274
We are all just glad you aren’t writing it by hand being a doc and all.
marymccurnin @ 260
Sorry – already in the bag and out the window.
They sure wanted strange condiments.
Next order?
Loo Hoo. @ 271
They never passed S 759 the Webb legislation that would require that they have to come back through congress before they start the illegal and unnecessary war. Some believe that the nuts can attack Iran under the 2002 war resolution.
marymccurnin @ 283
But we never know when we’re going to need Kirk to write us a sick note *g*
madmommy @ 272
(((( mm & big kid ))))
newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 276
Camels?
Camels riding in clown cars.
TexBetsy @ 266
OK, but what is his “stance” on toe-tapping?
Now for my manners:
Good evening all. Wonderful post and I LOVE the picture.
Gotta go cause I got my boy and 5:30 is gonna come awfully early.
Donna…..thanks for the thoughts.
‘nite all.
night james
g’night james :-)
UN extends Nato-led Afghan mission
from AL JAZEERA
Security Council expresses concern over increased Taliban and al-Qaeda attacks.
neurophius @ 289
Widely debated.
Night James.
newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 276
Camels?
Camels riding in clown cars.
One hump or two ?!! *g*
humbly request leave to speak OT.
[presumptiously assuming leave granted]
I am SO disappointed in Whoopi Goldberg. Used to love her to death. Now, she’s saying that dog fighting is a “cultural thing”……and that she LIKES Mitt Romney.
Dayum. : (
And in the OH SHIT department …
Fire at Japan’s quake-hit plant
from BBC World
Workers extinguish a fire at Japan’s Kashiwazaki nuclear plant, closed since it was hit by an earthquake in July.
oddmommy @ 297
Oh man! who spiked her koolaid?
now that we are way down on the thread
gotta question for ya’ll and i want the gawd’s honest truth
there has been an insinuation that i am biased (and i presume bigoted) and only chastize certain people in my moderating
i seriously thought that i was pretty neutral in moderating but now i am worried that perhaps i have not been. being a public mod, as opposed to all the other mods here at the lake, is a very fine line to walk and i want to know if i have crossed that line.
seriously, folks, help me out here – have i fucked up?
Suzanne @ 282
i will check out magnesium, can’t hurt. As long as i avoid nutr*sw**t (taking no chances on filters) i only get ‘em once or twice a year. Glad to hear baby girl has gotten so much relief. Mine started infrequently Jr. year of high school, i cannot imagine how miserable it must be for a kid.
Petrocelli @ 296
Two door or four door?
Suz — in a word, no. You are doing just fine.
Maybe next, Mitt Romney will come out in favor of a constitutional amendment to ban mosques in America.
Although I doubt that he would be the only Repug candidate to support such a measure…
no comment on this stupidity:
Giuliani has warning for Iranians – Los Angeles Times
from Google News
Philadelphia Inquirer
Giuliani has warning for Iranians
The GOP presidential hopeful says in London that the US should do whatever it takes to keep Iran from becoming a nuclear power.
Republican presidential candidate Rudolph W. Giuliani …
Uh, no.
TexBetsy @ 248
Probably not unless he’s hungry. I found with mine that they can poo poo until they want the food! Grilled cheese on wheat or nothing. Works pretty well!
Suzanne @ 300
I never noticed a problem but I like it when you chastize me.
No, Suzanne, you’ve always struck me as quite fair.
Suzanne @ 300
uh, nope.
This has been another edition of……..
Suzanne I have not noticed anything of the sort.
Bolton: US would support preemptive Israeli strike on Iran
link
Cheney must be having trouble with the Joint Chiefs and the Sec.Def; now going to try the secondary approach to start the Iranian war.
Can we get a group hug together for {{{{ Suz }}}}?
Feel free to chastise me anytime you please, Suzanne.
I think you are doing fine.
Suzanne @ 300
No. You are extremely fair, even handed, and gentle. There may be some people who are simply over sensitive to correction.
Suzanne, why don’t you ever get on TRex’s case? Oh yeah! It’s his thread. And there’s that tail thing too. Oh, OK. Then you;re fair.
Suzanne @ 300
I am going to send a camel driving a clown car after whoever insinuated such a thing.
Suz–you are an excellent mod. I don’t believe you’ve been unfair.
Folks–many folks–have been more than a tad tetchy this week.
Suzanne @ 300
Not in my experience. Thanks!
Suzanne @ 300
this is a joke, right?
no uneven playing field in my opinion.
LoudounLib @ 303
Ditto !
Suzanne @ 300
I have always felt that you are fair. Sometimes it gets a little noisy here and the mods do a great job. Thanks for keeping the worst of the trolls out.
oddmommy @ 310
Hey oddmommy, got any more jokes … loved the earlier one … *g*
LoudounLib @ 313
{{{{{{{{SUZ!!!}}}}}}}
Suzanne: I consider your impartiality a shining beacon here, even (especially?) in cranky times such as we have experienced lately. Just my tuppence.
Laura Doty @ 324
(((((((((((((((Suzanne)))))))))))))))))))))))))))
marymccurnin @ 308
no comment re chastizy belt :~)
Billions and billions….
for a bit longer….
[snip]
Laura Doty @ 324
*@–={{{{{{{{SUZ!!!}}}}}}}=–@*
TexBetsy @ 326
(((((((((((((((((Suzanne, Queen of the Mods)))))))))))))))))
TexBetsy @ 275
Wow! Is that in one of the major papers? Link?
don’t have to spell it out for y’all:
(S) (u) (z) (a) (n) (n) (e)
Suzanne @ 300
Two week ban for the person who said that..someone needs a time out. Wouldn’t be the nite shift without the “S”.
Mary, your hug has monkey ears. Cute!
And Suz, to add to the love, ygm
Loo Hoo, all my recommended reading is at http://www.google.com/reader/s…..0531065357 .
This is the link you requested.
MaryM…but does this camel driving said clown car have…ah, pedal appendages?
Fairest mod, ever!!
Suzanne @ 300
F*cked up is way to strong a word. I personally felt that you went after me for a sports comment with a little too much vigor, and it came right after I said that we should all fear the local police. I know you don’t like sports comments, but I contribute to the political talk as much as the next guy, and if CT, Burnsesq, and one or two others want to have a personal o/t message or two between us, it shouldn’t be a big. I never would have mentioned it, but since you asked ….
Suzanne @ 300
You wield a mean Taser, Ma’am!!! ;-)
neurophius @ 304
yeah well, I’m coming out in favor of an amendment to ban religions that sacrifice teenage girls to the sick fantasies of hideous old men and brainwash latter-day zombies into knocking on people’s doors. Put that in your not-pipe and don’t smoke it, MitTwitt.
I feel better now than when I got here. Hugs to ((Suzanne))), and I leave you with Aretha.
G’nite, G’people!
TexBetsy @ 298
Shocking.
OK officer priMODonna.. I am trying my best to poke fun at some of your flaws but I can’t think of any…)
((((((((((Suz)))) hug on the left
Just another day at work for Junior John, then.
DrDick @ 279
http://www.wsyx6.com/newsroom/…..ory3.shtml
Tells about a Columbus, OH mosque and worshipers there being attacked.
It’s a dark time.
CD @ 337
Maybe. Maybe not.
Suzanne @ 300
seriously – i have not noticed partisanship in your moderating. I usually hold back on public displays of anger, takes a lot to get me angry. But there have been times where i feel like screaming STFU and i’m always impressed at your ability to be firm yet fair-handed in treatment of belligerent people. [end of seriousness] (Sweeps off pirate hat in graceful bow to the bestest public mod in da universe.)
wangdangdoodle @ 342
g’night sistah!
night doodle
@ 328…CO2 increase is just a nice slow bake..wait until the Methane Hydrates melt..a hundred times the greenhouse effect of CO2.
Night WDD.
BigMitch @ 339
Mitch-you take yourself way too seriously.
marymccurnin @ 302
bwahahaha! thanks mary & petro, laughter is the best medicine!
wangdangdoodle @ 342
Nite, WangDang! …and any other sleepers I missed!!!
Steve-AR @ 351
At some point doesn’t the whole thing kick over into an ice age?
A Minister’s Public Lesson on Domestic Violence
ATLANTA, Sept. 19 — The attack in a hotel parking lot here last month was remarkable not only because the victim, Juanita Bynum, is the most prominent black female television evangelist in the country, who is pals with Oprah, admired by Aretha, and who recently signed on to campaign for Obama.
It was shocking, especially to legions of women who had latched onto her message that only chastity and self-respect would bring true love, because the attacker who choked, stomped and kicked her, Ms. Bynum said, was her husband.
The episode has led to debate about domestic violence and how churches, particularly black churches, respond to it.
(more)
Steve-AR @ 351
All kinds of fun when the permafrost melts and all the flash frozen decomposition resumes full speed ahead. I have seen some pretty scary numbers on estimated methane yields from that.
newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 354
Absolutely NDFG … although some of DrD’s Lamb Curry would be a close second !
marymccurnin @ 356
Highly recommend a book “The World Without Us”. It is a picture of some of the things that could happen if our “civilized” inventions were not tended. It’s a wonderful book.
Some days I think the Bay Area/Northern Cal keeps so much open space to leave room for Big Love…
so many folks thinking alike.
Suzanne, I’m obviously biased, but when I’ve been out of line you called me on it.
[and I still blush thinking about
that timethose timeslast few nights and my priors…]TexBetsy @ 275
Ahmadinejad’s a jerk, but the Iranian people, IIRC, had massive demonstrations in support of the USA after 9/11, the biggest pro-US demonstrations in that part of the world.
Petrocelli @ 359
Have some leftovers if you want, even a little bit of rice left.
Steve-AR @ 351
Much of the methane is trapped in the Permafrost Tundra regions!!!
I don’t know what to do with all of the global warming info in my head. I have processed it intellectually but not emotionally. Will my 30 something children live to see 60?
DrDick @ 358
The unvarnished numbers we see up here says that we have 10 years to reverse global warming or we will hit the tipping point …
mitch, how many times have you been asked not to give play by play and other sports talk – i’ve asked nicely, i’ve asked sternly – you tell me – what will you listen to?
from a moderating point, sports talk is fine – but when there is sports talk on every thread, no matter the topic, no matter who wrote the post, well, we are not a sports blog
me personally, i’m neutral on sports – just as i am on religion.
Ed*ard Teller @ 362
But that was before they
became our enemyhad our oil under their sand.DrDick @ 363
don’t mnd if i do (passes bowl) Thanks!
DrDick @ 363
Thank you kind sir, how did you make the Curry – from scratch or didja use a jar ?
oops…
Some days I think the Bay Area/Northern Cal keeps so much open space to leave room for Big Love…
so many folks thinking alike.
on Craig’s List ;)
marymccurnin @ 365
Oh, you mean 30 something years old, not 30 children, I must be a little tired!
Ed*ard Teller @ 362
we recall it the same way.
marymccurnin @ 365
You have more than 30 kids? No wonder you lost count!
Suzanne @ 300
Suzanne, I think you are a great mod. You are human, and have opinions like the rest of us. I don’t know what the problem was, but I’m sure if I were the mod, people would be pissed at me too. The only CONSTRUCTIVE suggestion I could possibly make would be to be sure to consider all points of view before commenting, and to remember that your comment could carry more weight than regular commenters. I think you’re great, and that your job must be a difficult one. Anyone who tries to keep everyone balanced and does so as expertly as Suz needs kudos.
TexBetsy @ 374
Oh you guys!
Hey! Late to the party – but just dropping in for a sec…
Wow, yet another tactic the Republicans lay to try and distract us from the things worth being outraged about.
“Oh, don’t even think about all of the dead and the maimed in this war of choice. Instead, be really angry about questioning someone’s integrity after they give false and misleading information before Congress (which tries to justify all of those dead and maimed… but just don’t think about those people. Stay focused on the man with the shiny medals who suffered greatly with a play on his name!)”
TexBetsy @ 374
Fertile, Eh? ;-)
marymccurnin @ 376
Or, rather, I know that I have a p***y and not a clown car.
Interesting fact from David Kurtz at Talking Points Memo…
marymccurnin @ 365
My single biggest concern is the world. How badly have we damaged it? Too effin many of us, using too effin many resources. I try to make my impact light.
Wow – TexasBesty now has more than 30 kids! She’s been busy since I last checked in at latenite at the lake…
LoudounLib @ 303
I second that. Emphatically.
Suzanne @ 367
what she said. it is distracting to me
Ed*ard Teller @ 362
Would it not be a sign of good faith if he were to lay a wreath at the WTC site ?
Perhaps it would blunt the urgency for bombing Iran ?
landofthefree @ 382
Not I. Mary.
Petrocelli @ 370
The doctor only cooks from scratch, do not even buy any prepared foods. I even make my own garam masala. Cheated a little bit in that I cooked it in a crock pot. Had my long day today (teach a lecture course and then immediately go into a 3 hours theory seminar – in class from 1-5) and am too tired to cook when I get home.
Loo Hoo. @ 375
As for me, I think Suz must have been a dispatcher in a former life *g*
TexBetsy @ 374
Reminds me of a Peter Shickele quote – “Of J.S. Bach’s 20-odd sons, PDQ was by far the oddest.”
marymccurnin @ 365
Sure, but food may be scare, due to drought. And if you live from Delaware to Texas beware of the hurricanes, don’t take any chances.
marymccurnin @ 379
… and we’re back to square one … *g*
TexBetsy @ 305
I wonder if this was linked to the denial of their president’s request to lay a wreath at the WTC site. Next thing you know, the rethugs will try to link Iran to 9/11 directly…. and approximately 25% of the US will believe them.
Tomorrow’s another day and another battle. Rest well, firepups. Good night.
g’night TOW
The Democrats when they were in the minority could have ended up pulling the trigger on the nuclear option and they wound have only needed 51 votes now…..But nooooooooooo…
-GSD
OK, I’m still catching up on all the comments…
I know Mitt is a girly man, but when I read “soft on gay issues” I gotta get the brain bleach.
Petrocelli @ 385
The wingnuts are missing a chance here. If they let him go down to ground zero and do that, it is all that much easier to shout “Iran – 9/11, Iran – 9/11!”
DrDick @ 387
Be still my heart! I am definitely on my way over for din-din.
DrDick @ 387
Actually, cooking it in a crock pot is *genius* … it allows the meat to marinate fully in the spices … fantastic idea !
Blub @ 392
Who does ghouliani think he is? He ain’t the presnut yet.
Suzanne @ 300
Nope.
#45,678 simple answers to simple questions (although the question will cost ya $.25!)
Need to be awake and alert at work tomorrow. AND need to entertain my former in-laws tomorrow afternoon. (Don’t ask.) So I may need to call it a night. Enjoyed the snark, and the politics even.
Hugs and cookies to ALL the mods.
Petrocelli @ 391
uhhh, you mean hump one? *g*
Goodnight TexBet.
TexBetsy @ 402
My favorite! Thanks Betsy, and g’night
Night OWA.
This is infuriating, add three more from today’s sorry session and even more since this is dated from 20 July…
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/226/story/18218.html
LoudounLib @ 405
Are you a mod? Put that back!
TRex @ 53
Let’s use it. Liberally.
Oh no, is Cornyn gonna propose a sense of the Senate that people are criticizing his party for this characterization, too?
This is gonna bite him in the ass. It just points out what hypocritical pricks we have in Congress, to waste time and money even bringing such a “MoveOn is MEAN!” motion to the floor of the Senate. It will remind Americans that all the Republicans care about is controlling the fucking PR. Despicable.
Ok, now I’m gonna have a hard time sleeping. I’m all pissed off again. Earlier, it was the story on TPM about how our military is providing “religious enlightenment” to prisoners as young as 11 in Iraq. Now this. Grrrr.
I’m gonna go punch a pillow and try to sleep on it! Have a great night, everyone.
Big wave to Suzanne!!!
g’nite texb!
Ed*ard Teller @ 397
Good Point, ET … are you coming to Toronto this fall for that CBC gig ?
TexBetsy @ 408
Ooops! *chagrin*
marymccurnin @ 60
I’m off of Howe Ave., not a drop here, only the LOVELY scent of rain in the air, and DELIGHTFUL temps all of the day, and all of the night. All day. All of the night!!! (thanks to the Brother Davies)
mary – in response to your question on the last thread – yes, i’d gladly marry you.
i’d spend the rest of my life smiling and laughing..
if your husband would have it…
[the idea, of course]
Hey Suz,
some people are repeat offenders and so require more reminding of the protocol. This doesn’t mean you are “picking” on anyone.
Mitch, I don’t mean you…
BTW, are there any FAQs about FDL or can newbies go there to catch on about how threads/topics carry over, rules on liveblogging threads etc. I type this before checking on it myself.
TexBetsy @ 336
Thank you! Good material.
Petrocelli @ 399
Sounds so good. Night all. I’m back to work.
marymccurnin @ 356
Winging it at mid-night…one possibility is warming..increased water evaporation..increasing cloud cover..clouds reflect sun light..ice age..or snow ball earth.
Petrocelli @ 399
I brown the meat and onions and toast the whole spices (did it last night), then toss all the ingredients in the crockpot set on low and let it cook all day.
TexBetsy @ 408
Somebody got their hand caught in the cookie jar…!!!
Night Betsy. Good luck with the outlaws.
kirk murphy @ 413
Swoon. Swoon. Ah think ah have the vapors.
These are the comments that prompted this dicussion:
Kathleen @ 206
Kathleen @ 281
Night LotF
DrDick @ 418
Excellent, my mouth is watering … did you use Basmati Rice ?
The Mod Squad thanks Texas Betsy for the cookies.
Petrocelli @ 424
Of course. Organic even. Steamed, not boiled (actually I use a rice cooker these days, much simpler).
Suzanne @ 422
see my 414…..and don’t think another thought about those comments.
Perhaps your mod shield has been pierced by the severe disappointments in today’s news. I know mine looks like a piece of swiss cheese.
Giuliani: “I’m Probably One Of The Four Or Five Best Known Americans In The World”
Not surprising but still disgusting that he thinks this way.
DrDick @ 418
Indian cooking is great to do at home. It is non-technical, except for browning the onions, and is hard to screw up.
Suzanne @ 423
Suz, ygm again
DrDick @ 427
It locks the flavor in, much better than boiling, IIRC …
Any SF Bay Area folks recall Charles McCabe? A SF Chronicle columnist in the 60s and 70s. He was bright and curmudgeonly and didn’t suffer fools gladly. He had a thing he called Rule Number Five. It was, entirely: Don’t Take Yourself Too Seriously.
There were no other rules.
We all have issues we’re passionate about. But some of us have a leetle trouble remembering Rule #5.
Please don’t let tonight get you down Suz.
Petrocelli @ 431
Gives much better texture as well (firm, not mushy grains).
Can we just note that Bob Perry, the moneybags behind the Swift Boat bullshitters, has been bankrolling Cornyn’s campaigns since he was running for Texas AG? Heck, he ponied up the maximum primary donation of $2300 just this year.
Gosh, if Cornyn wasn’t such a dumb, ignorant, vain sack of shit, more concerned with competing for Biggest Waste Of Senate Desk Space, he might feel a twinge of shame at such fucking hypocrisy.
Woohoo, the Zed Dance…!!!
http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..he-troops/
DrDick @ 427
if i wasn’t allergic to matrimony, i’d ask ya to marry me! *g*
Petrocelli @ 411
I wish! I haven’t finished the revisions, and I’m corresponding with some people about the propriety of one of the revision concepts.
Back in 2004, when we tried to premiere The Skies are Weeping in Anchorage, an Israeli-American blogger created a protest meme against my work, which keeps recurring when people present or create art about Rachel Corrie – the All the Other Rachels meme.
Essentially, there have been, since before the First Intifada, Israeli or American-Israeli women killed in terrorist attacks in Israel who were named “Rachel.” At premieres of “Skies” and of “My Name is Rachel Corrie,” protesters invariably appear with signs and handouts based on the material of the second link above, and show up at discussion groups at these peformances, asking “Why not write music about all these other Rachels.”
That has been going on for three and 1/2 years now, and nobody seems to have written the music. I’ve started on a piece about that, but I’m not sure it would really be appreciated, from me, by the originators of the meme. When I wrote “The Skies,” I asked permission to do the project from the Corrie family, and they were in on the creative process. I would want them and the families of “all the other Rachels” involved in this in the same way, which is complicated, to say the least!
Agreed.
Not surprising at all when Rudy fondly recalls..
Hitler was the. best-known German in the world
marymccurnin @ 429
known for using peoples ashes to fill potholes.
if known at all
Good for you – I wish we all did.
Here’s what our certain two degrees is bringing us:
Five years ago this was a possibility. Now it is a near-certainty.
In just years – within the next two Presidential terms.
What happens then – ten years out?
Well, the positive feedback loops may have started. A France-size chunk of Siberian tundra has begun to melt, relasing methane from frozen peat.
And methane is a potent greenhouse gas. The more we get, the more the permafrost melts.
One trillion dollars squandered in Iraq.
The US can afford the cost of changing to a carbon-neutral economy.
On this planet, Americans make up five percent of the planet’s population and consume one-fifth of the planet’s scarcest resources.
The planet can’t afford our failure to adopt a carbon-neutral economy.
Should we fail do so in the next two decades, those who are children now will die terrible deaths.
Should we fail to begin in the next few years, those who are children now will die terrible deaths.
Two degrees is 91-100% likely.
What lies beyond?
Here’s what we’ll live to see…for a while:
Petrocelli @ 321
I haven’t noticed anything like that at all….you’re doing a great job!
Suzanne @ 300
No.
Ah I remember when Moveon was just a little group probably extended by someone’s pet dog and a dirty hippy hairdo or two. And still it hasn’t managed to infiltrate MSM like a Scaife outfit.
I didn’t read all 400 posts on this, so if my comment is redundant, I apologize. I just want to invite anyone who hasn’t yet to Google Cornyn in order to get a crystal clear understanding as to why his nose is jammed so firmly up Bu$h’s ass. He has GOT to go, and I intend to give money to any person running against him, provided that person doesn’t have HIS/HER nose firmly jammed up the RNC’s ass.
Honest to Gawd! NO WONDER this country is in deeep deeep (South) chit!
siri@legitgov.org
http://www.legitgov.org
DrDick @ 315
No one at FDL is going to tell you the truth. Most not all but most FDLer’s roll over as soon as one of the Mods, CHS or Jane (very seldom) over reach.
Hi,
Heres some related news out today as the moveon.org thing ‘really’ heats up:
Senate votes to condemn MoveOn, Clinton votes NO!
“Senators Clinton and Obama need to decide whether they’re running for America, or running for MoveOn.org,” he said. “If Clinton and Obama cannot bring themselves to take a stand against a vicious attack on the man leading our forces in Iraq, why should American voters believe they are capable of demonstrating the leadership we need in a Commander in Chief?”
Continued at:
A Betrayal Of Trust
Best,
Dan
General David Betray Us