Can’t hardly click on a web link nowadays without seeing something about Republicans leaving guaranteed government sinecures for more bucks (thus imperiling the Federalist Society’s plans to fascisize the Federal Judiciary), or leaving the GOP because they can’t take Bush and the neocon bullcrap any more, or repenting because they can’t take Bush and the neocon bullcrap any more (or don’t want their complicity in Bush’s actions permanently affixed to their public record), or simply retiring because they can’t take Bush and the neocon bullcrap any more:
Nine-term congressman Jim Ramstad’s decision Monday to retire throws the outlook across Minnesota into question. The 3rd District covers most of the second- and third-ring suburbs west of Minneapolis, as well as Bloomington, Brooklyn Park, Brooklyn Center, and part of Anoka. With the traditional Republican strongholds of Minnetonka, Eden Prairie and Plymouth rapidly turning blue at the state and presidential levels, the district makes for a classic battleground in 2008.
Ramstad’s departure will almost certainly cause Democrats at the state and national levels to take a long, hard look at this race. With several notable names already connected with this race (led by Andy Luger, the 2006 DFL-endorsed candidate for Hennepin county attorney), the 3rd represents an opportunity for DFLers to “move the goalposts” on their Republican opponents and help spread Republican resources a bit thinner as the GOP seeks to unseat first-term DFL congressman Tim Walz.
Back when he was first elected in 1990, Ramstad was in the mainstream of his party. Now it’s moved so far to the nutcase right that he, who in the 1970s would have been considered moderate-to-conservative, looks like friggin’ Noam Chomsky compared to the goons and gunsels running his party today. His voting record shows that he departed from the GOP party line on one out of every five votes, which is considered recklessly daring and insubordinate as Republicans go, enough for him to be called a “RINO” (Republican in Name Only) by incensed conservative Republicans.
This is why I agree with The Wege and Dana Blankenhorn that the biggest obstacles to our success next year are those who would lead us not understanding that it’s not 1994 any more. The conditions that existed then do not obtain now — not when the smartest parts of our opposition, the ones who can read the handwriting on the wall, are literally running away from their own party.
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Zed
boo
Boo Hoo
PW!!!
Attaaaaack!!!
Republicans are cowards.
General Clark just said the MoveOn “Betray Us” ad was “a mistake.”
Sorry, General, but I disagree.
I hope the RINO doesn’t get replaced by a DINO!!!
Keep ‘em on the run. Don’t let the California problem happen. Fight against Diebold. Watch out for voter disenfranchisement now.
Then, maybe we’ll be alright.
I have to say I am worried that the Republicans might again win the WH in 2008. And my best friend? She is worried too.
Rove is very active these days.
RIP
Republicans in Pain
Oklahoma kiddo @ 10
Win win? Or Bush 2000 “win”?
Helter Skelton and Issa are both on the Wilke’s subpoenas. They gotta go.
The GOP does seem to be leaking rather a lot of its lifeblood lately, doesn’t it?
darkblack @ 15
That’s ’cause all the restrooms are busy…tap, tap, tap.
*gasp* Is Harry finally growing a spine???
http://tpmelectioncentral.com/…..n_iraq.php
cleter @ 13
Either way. The bottom line, with another GOP win it will be excruciatingly painfull for all non-rich, non-Republicans. Not to mention, even more war.
Mad Dogs @ 16
First it was a trickle, and now the stream is in full flush
;>)
Clark is a Hillary man now…
He’s part of the establishment… that can’t see the world any other way it seems.
darkblack @ 19
Dayam, DB, that is disrespecting the Troops, shame on you!!! :P
In this house the view is that President Gore is the GOP’s worst fear.
CTuttle @ 17
That could be the most common sentence constructed here over the last couple of years.
I hope it’s true this time (the second most common)
Cool here in Connecticut.
Some of the sugar maples are turning.
My samoyed is frisky.
I have renewed energy — energy to be pissed.
Want to be around for the revolution.
Not sure I’ll live to see it — figure it will take another 30 years for Americans to erase the blackboard and start anew.
Tucker Carlson’s take on the Florida taser incident:
Blame John Kerry.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 22
A mirror is a GOP’s worst fear, they are faced with their own reflection.
Unless, like vampires, they and their lies don’t reflect. Mirrors only reflect facts before them.
Ok, so the people are ready for a new deal. Visionary candidates should talk about new opportunities, jobs, real single payer heathcare to get the insurance companies out of our wallets, unions, living wages, etc. Someone is talking about those things but he’s a nerdy looking geek and he’s not tall. He’s getting not any serious play.
So its really more important to have lots of money (a campaign war chest!) and look the part, sell us mandatory health insurance and keep the status quo with no jobs and cheap widgets pouring in from China for cheap prices at Wal Mart.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 22
That would be my guess, too!
Jonathan @ 24
Sounds like it’s time to break out the sap taps and pails… Mmmm…!!!
I read somewhere that the maples are disappearing as a result of global warming.
CT at 29
I’ve not done that here in CT.
Have done it in Michigan, but I think in spring.
Memory is faulty.
Love the photo PW!
neurophius @ 25
I fart in his (TC’s) general di-rection. blwwwwwwthft!
Oklahoma kiddo @ 30
Aspens are dying too inexplicably. They’re connected at the roots.
CTuttle @ 29
ahem. In upstate New York, we break out the sap taps and pails (or the plastic piping and the pump system, depending on your level of technology) in March/early April, depending on when things start to get warmer.
do-si-do @ 33
BAWAHAHAWAHAWHA!
kdh22 @ 32
Yes, may we hear the sound of more coconut shells on the GOP side of the aisle…
hackworth @ 34
Good one!
do-si-do @ 37
And to the Grand Ole Perverts I say, “Bring out yer dead! Bring out yer dead!”
Oklahoma kiddo @ 30
They need cold weather. Probably gotten a few degrees too warm for them. Trees aren’t that mobile, either :-(
CTuttle @ 21
I don’t disrespect any law-abiding armed forces personnel, put in harm’s way by civilians for goals both noble and nebulous…But I know someone who does.
kdh22 @ 36
;P
I just love MP & HG! So many great scenes. It’s so fitting that King Arthur (W) is seeking the holy grail when the french tell him “we’ve already got one!”
My holy grail is the US Constitution.
And his mother smells of elderberries!
kdh22 @ 39
They’re not dead yet!! Just a scratch!
Off Topic … sign this petition
Help Prevent Shaken Baby Syndrome (S. 1204 and H.R. 2052)
Here is a beautiful compilation of photos from the DC March (since there is nowhere else to find out what went down). There’s even a picture of “Redshift” in there! “One Pissed Off Liberal” says they were easily 100,000 strong!! You’d never know from the coverage:
http://dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/9/18/161042/411
Oklahoma kiddo @ 11
where?
Jonathan @ 31
Spring is the primary season, but, a smaller harvest can be done in the Autumn! I’ve harvested the sap in NH, one year, it takes a lot of sap (28 gals) to make a gallon of Maple Syrup!!!
LS @ 45
THANK YOU, LS! I’d been looking all over the internet last Sunday and of MSM could only find wapo and alj**rza covering this!! :O
LS @ 45
LS,
These are great photos.
I’ve got some too, on CD.
If anyone can tell me how to make them available, I’ll do it.
CTuttle @ 47
Well, I never…must be pretty strongly flavored stuff…
Jonathan @ 24
Thanks for the nice images, Jonathan.
I love autumn.
It’s uplifting to remember there’s good things happening in our world.
Maybe Reid’s suddenly grew a spine because of contractorgate. That gives him some real leverage. Maybe he can put pressure on Repubs for votes…you want to be associated with SS/Gestapo murderers????? You want to fund them???? You want to get our troops killed as revenge for their out of control actions????
Jonathan @ 49
Some people use “Flickr”…I don’t know how to post them there myself, others here do, but I would love to see them!
Knights who say NIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.
Michael Palin rules.
may @ 46
California for starters (electoral hanky panky). He is the one charged with cutting GOP losses in 2008. As to his physical location? Not sure. But he likes his Blackberry and emails that get misplaced. I’d say he’s in Texas.
That Monty Python scene is definitely the one that had me rolling on the floor of the movie theater.
I think with Naomi Klein’s new book, The Shock Doctrine, we are going to understand the past 8 years in particular, and the past generation in general, as an attempted Libertarian coup. The ideological godfather of this unholy mess was Milton Friedman at the U of Chicago. His storm troopers (I’m mostly guessing here) were Dick Cheney, Don Rumsfeld and the rest of the Neo-cons and PNAC, Grover Norquist, Tom Delay, Karl Rove, along with Frontman Bush and chief toady Alberto Gonzales. They are basically anti-democratic, anti-Constitution revolutionaries who wanted to create a crisis in such a way that they will be in position to pick up all the pieces, and put them together in a new world order. The Pinochet coup in Chile was their pilot test. They have not totally succeeded– yet. The Democrats seem to think that all they have to do is wait, and all will be theirs in little more than a year. I think they underestimate this plot. NOTHING is beyond the plotters consideration. In fact, a nuclear war based on fabricated information might just do the ticket. I’m guessing here, but after listening to Naomi Klein about the Shock Doctrine, these guys do not fear any holocaust, as long as they think they can pick up the pieces afterwards. Collateral damage means nothing to them (unless it touches their own families, of course).
That’s one of the reasons I’m not content to just run out the clock on these guys. Well, yes, I suppose Condi’s in it, too.
Bob in HI
i’ve got photos from the dc march.. also dont know how to post them online :(
LS,
Thank you again for linking us up OPOL’s pix of the DC march. It is gratifying to see so many people (as many as there are troops in Iraq?) showing up on chickenhawk bush’s doorstep.
Loved the stylin’ bus from SF!
I did see one interview on Faux news while holding my breath. One of the die in folks did pretty well getting her message out while the Faux news guy tried to put words in her mouth.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 55
the night has a thousand eyes?
and the bludy daytime too,
one would hope.
juslin @ 58
If you have a yahoo account, go to flickr.com and sign in. Very easy to post them. Then, come back here and provide a link.
juslin @ 58
How about on a free account with Flickr?
CTuttle @ 29
That’s an early spring activity, snow on ground, water running in creeks (ie not frozen) daytime above freezing, nightime below freezing. Grandad & my sibs used to do this in Wisc. Cousin still does, nice getting a couple pints at family gatherings!
LS at 45
There were a bunch of marchers.
Not as MSM representented.
80,000 – 100,000 in my estimation.
And such a group.
College kids (lots).
1960s retreads.
I marched behind a mother with her son.
Babies.
Kids.
Dogs.
People who were pissed. And who know the truth about the march.
I don’t get up off my ass much.
But I’ll do it again.
Here is the French scene from Holy Grail:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..mp;search=
OT: On Blackwater.
I was just emailed this alert. Anyone know anything more?
http://www.couragecampaign.org…..Blackwater
peanutbutter @ 62
Or picasaweb if you already have a gmail acct.
Jonathan @ 64
I wish I could have been there!
peanutbutter @ 66
Good!!!!
From my Gooper Congress critter…
Typical talking points but this little gem at the end ; )
I believe we need to dramatically increase our diplomatic efforts and will communicate this with President Bush when I meet with him next.
We need a diplomatic surge as successful as our military surge.
Sincerely,
Kay Granger
Ramsted’s replacement. Another blue step in the land of sky blue waters.
ccmask&peanutbutter
i’ll have to get my kids to help mother out lol and will post them on flickr asap or when bratty kids can help…
Cozumel @ 70
I think even the Goopers are getting scared about Cheney’s onward march toward Iran. I’m beginning to hope it won’t happen. I’m seeing substantial pushback.
Obviously that should be ‘Ramstad’.
If the Democrats cannot win in 2008, when can they win?
juslin @ 72
Oh gosh. You sound like me. My poor son, he just shakes his head.
methinks the dems are going to blow this election b/c they are truly TONE DEAF!!! they’re ignoring the malaise thats spreading across the land and steny hora says HE’S mad at the grassroots? fuck him and the dlc boat he came in on!!
ccmask @ 76
You sound like my Mom :)
It’s Them and Us.
And the Them don’t include the 30-percenters.
They’re just ignorant, angry sheep, as much on the outside as anyone here.
You want an image of Them? Pick at random from the House or Senate.
Oh, yes, I know there are “good” senators like Feingold and good representatives like my Chris Murphy.
But if one asks, what do any of these people want most, the answer is to get re-elected.
And that puts everything in perspective.
Them and Us.
And the sooner Americans grasp this basic fact, the better.
juslin @ 77
Seriously, why don’t the DLC just become moderate repugs?
Oklahoma kiddo @ 75
One of the obstacles that the dems will have to overcome to win in ‘08 or ever is getting the votes counted. Another HUGE threat is that California will decide to split its electoral votes.
Well, well, well….wonders never cease!
“Top US commander in Iraq General David Petraeus says he has no doubt that Iran is giving “lethal” support to Iraqi militias, but he has not sought to stop it by launching military operations inside Iran.
Speaking at a press conference in London with US ambassador to Iraq, Ryan Crocker, General Petraeus told reporters that he hoped instead that Iran would eventually play a constructive role across the border.
“There is no question about the very lethal and damaging impact of the Iranian activity and support for these militias,” General Petraeus said on his return to Baghdad after testifying to US Congress last week about Iraq’s future.
Echoing testimony in Washington, General Petraeus said there was clear evidence that Iran was training militias and giving them weapons, including rockets and improvised explosive devices (IEDs) that have killed many allied troops.
When asked about the prospect of US military operations in Iran, General Petraeus replied: “I certainly have not sought authorisation to cross the border into Iran. We have our hands full in Iraq”.
http://abc.net.au/news/stories…..ion=justin
More evidence that the Military does not want to go along with the Neocon plan to attack Iran.
1,602 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND..
Citizen Phoenix Woman and the Firepup Patriots:
My native state of Minnesota comes up big again…this nominating process in the 3rd District is gunna go a long way to measurin’ the effectiveness of Dean’s 50 State strategy up against the Rahm Emmanuel corporatist machine of the 1990’s. Minnesota has been able to steer relatively clear of the beltway movers and shakers but, as it does in any battle with machine politics, this will boil down to who gets nominated and how many resources grassroots candidates need to run against Rahm’s shill.
We over here in western Wisconsin have our own battle to get our Bushdog, Ron Kind, back in the kennel but we’ll be watchin’ our brothers and sisters in the Land ‘O Lakes. Keep us informed, I will be particularly interested in how the how effective the DNC organizers are in helpin’ the grassroots keep the DCCC outta the primary.
You are fightin’ the good fight over there, sister Pheonix, keep on keepin’ on.
By the way, what do you know about the Ellison fundraiser and Stenny Hoyer that was alluded to downstream…does this mean that Ellison is indentured to the Hoyer/Emmanuel faction against the Speaker?
KEEP THE FAITH AND USE THAT AMMUNITION!!
Conason on Tweety!
Loo Hoo. @ 84
This is the best Hardball I have ever seen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gcXUAyjDjI
LS @ 85
And, of course, CodePinks Medea Benjamin
Do not subsribe to Chris Matthews.
Be your own person.
You don’t need affirmation.
Be your own person.
Join with others to rebel.
Disregard ALL MSM.
Really.
BigMitch @ 81
I was thinking about that today too. Rove has had plans in the works for a while to secure as many popular votes (electronic voting is a must for this) and electoral votes as possible. Getting CA to split its electoral votes is also mandatory if he’s to steal the ‘08 election as he did ‘00 and ‘04. Placing US Attys in strategic areas and stacking the Supremes were insurance for his plan. JMO FWIW
juslin @ 77
I’m afraid Mr. Hoyer fell asleep and woke up to find that there are now all these people who get together on the internets and..talk to one another…and share information…and coordinate actions..and make their representatives listen to them. I think Steny Hoyer wishes that we’d go back to sleep so that people like him can go back to playing House and Senate so that he’s not bothered with actual constituents.
LS @ 85
I support Code Pink. ;0)
Per CNN – Diplomats not allowed out of Green Zone.
In the inquiry involving Kenneth Tomlinson, State Department investigators determined that Mr. Tomlinson had used his office to run a “horse racing operation” and had improperly put a friend on the payroll, according to a summary of a report made public by a Democratic lawmaker. Mr. Tomlinson has denied doing anything improper.
This excerpt is from the NYT re: the Waxman letter to the State Department. When you see horse racing and payroll in the same sentence, it conjurs up images of the Mafia. The Bushies are the Mob.
OKK at 91
I support Code Pink too.
Our country needs outrage.
Wow. Hillary has goons says the Code Pink rep. on hardball.
LS @ 92
…and Blackwater is still in bizness in Iraq…!!!
Jonathan @ 94
Sorry, Jonathan — I’m stuck on revolting…
“The U.S. Embassy in Baghdad suspended all diplomatic convoys Tuesday outside the heavily fortified Green Zone and the rest of Iraq after a weekend incident involving private security guards in which a number of Iraqi civilians were killed.
In a notice sent to Americans in Iraq, the embassy said it had acted to review the security of its personnel and possible increased threats to those leaving the Green Zone while accompanied by security details.
“In light of a serious security incident involving a U.S. embassy protective detail in the Mansour District of Baghdad, the embassy has suspended official US government civilian ground movements outside the International Zone (IZ) and throughout Iraq,” the notice says.”
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap…..y-Iraq.php
Matthews came close to calling the Bush Adminstration’s actions in Iraq, “fascistic”. Matthews used the word “fascist”.
Toby Wollin @ 97
I think I’m with you, but don’t understand.
CTuttle @ 96
Oh, so that’s what Chimpy meant by “sovereignty”.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 99
Matthews is a ratings whore.
CTuttle @ 96
Imagine that!
Whoa, Chris Matthews has had it with all the free speech violations. And he’s not going to take it anymore.
Dog gone it! I promised Lahoma I’d go easy on HRC today.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 105
Maybe she’ll forgive you? Just this once?
Oklahoma kiddo @ 105
we won’t tell, her, honest.
I refuse to go to jail for not being able to afford HRC’s mandatory healthcare program. Go ahead and Taser me, but I still won’t go.
newtonusr @ 101
Green Zone Sovereignty! Yes! All hail the CIC!
Get Tough @ 102
The statement perhaps begs the question: aren’t most of them (those with tv shows)?
Get Tough @ 102
Imagine a room.
Just an ordinary big room, maybe in a hotel.
Chris Matthews.
And everyone here at FDL.
He would be shredded.
But, of course, he won’t let that happen.
LS @ 98
Shorter DOS: reduce diplomacy when violence is questioned.
LS @ 108
it’s ok, it won’t pass. it’ll just be a lot of smoke, like last time.
kdh22 @ 89
Well, what with Debra Bowen spoiling the evote machines, and what with steady opposition to the electoral vote “reform” I don’t think CA is going to play by Rove’s rules/
Oklahoma kiddo @ 110
Of course, but when these talking heads spout off for one cause for so long, and when the tide turns, take the other side, it is despicable. I want someone to go on his show, Repub or Democrat, and call him out on it.
yeah lets see if tweety maintains his outrage…he blows and cold from day-to-day ya know
LS @ 108
;0)
Would someone please ask Hillary Clinton to stop coming up with health care “reform” plans that are less attractive than the dysfunctional system she proposes to replace?
http://www.thenation.com/blogs…..pid=233626
peanutbutter @ 114
I’ll keep my fingers crossed.
Get Tough @ 115
Could be that’s what he thinks an impartial and balanced presentation is…?
Rex Babin is pretty hard on Hillary today…….
Get Tough @ 102
Matthews: Who no one knows til the wind blows.
i want the health care plan congress has! it doesnt get better than that one lol
juslin @ 116
…segment to segment, too…!!!
We pay plenty of taxes. Just give us healthcare, and stay out of wars. Fix NOLA while yer at it, too!! Dagnabit!!!
newtonusr @ 87
Don’t make me turn it on….you are tempting me though.
Tithonia @ 120
Love the bustier and fishnets! How accurate!
loohoo
you were wanting blackwater stuff…….
jeremy scahill and a nailhead are on the lehrer report on pbs…….go to the website to hear it……..was a good report……..
LS @ 124
Easy enough to do…!!! ;-)
LS @ 124
Great platform. If only one of ‘them’ could grasp it.
ccmask @ 125
It was worth it to hear Tweety basically call the Bush regime fascist.
Who here, if faced with the choice of being re-elected to congress or representing his his or her constituents’ wishes would choose the latter.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 117
Seems like I know a certain faction of a certain party who does the same thing. HRC=More of the same.
The problem is many of the right wing nuts who are running away from the Republican party just might join the democrats, likely at Rahm Emmanuel’s invite. Then we are really cooked!
I have been so disappointed in Tweety. He is not my kind of man. As someone said above, all he cares about is his ratings. He is very dishonest and lives poshly on the lives of others. I like to see passion–and KO does it for me. Big Time. By the way, another gooper at work has become a “lefty” (and he was a tough one–took me three years. He asked me yesterday after a meeting what I thought of (get ready for it) Betrayus.
Jonathan @ 131
Trick question right?
ccmask @ 121
Right on the head, baby, right on the head….
New thread: MoveOn, Betrayal of Trust, and the GOP’s Moral Failure
The most effective thing in 6 1/2 years on Teevee, is the sound of the horrified, shrill screaming of the fellow student onlookers of the taser-torture. I think a lot of people woke up today.
Don’t Taz me Bro!!
PS: I’ve been working on our UPS guy too. I cannot crack him for nothing. And two project managers. Can’t move any one of them. They all want us to “blow em to klingdom come.”
On edit–I think I’ll leave the Klingdom
LS @ 138
And, much, much, much worse…the cries of the dehydrating, starvation at the Dome in NOLA for 5 days, of course. That woke up a lot of people…but the bigots didn’t get it.
Get Tough @ 115
I want a princess sparkle pony :))
Wolf Blitzer just tripped himself up completely and said, General Petraeus…uh…General Betrayus…uh…uh…General Petraeus. That will show up on youtube for sure!!!
Jonathan @ 131
But, the latter produces the former… supposedly…!!! ;-)
ccmask @ 141
…and a tiara…and a scepter…and pink sparkly ballerina shoes…
jonathan at 131 says-”Who here, if faced with the choice of being re-elected to congress or representing his his or her constituents’ wishes would choose the latter.”
i would choose the latter……..many times i have said, even though i was brought up in a politically active fdr democratic family, i wish i knew more about politics when i was younger, i would have chosen that path, without a doubt………and my friends tell me, that would have been the way to go……..
i was a cpan junkie from the minute it came on……..literally, i taped it, back when noone had vcr’s..i made a lot of money, and had one of the first ones…i taped cspan and david letterman……i ate it up. i showed up at city council meetings in my early twenties. i wanted to know what went on. i understood that it is a process.
years later, i hear people talk about watching it and following politics, and i think, i breathed it, i loved it, what an opportunity to represent people……that was the early 80’s………then i learned that not all do……..and i have deleted the rest of what i wrote because it started to sound like you did a week ago………well, that could have been written better, but i’m exhausted…..oh well…….
Run away! Run away!
Rethugs running away from the mess they created, the stink they shat out while playing gubmint on the country’s dime, from responsibility for their own morals, and responsibility for their own failed policies are nothing more than rats leaving a fetid and stinking rotting ship of state. They’ve fucked it up good while partying in the public trough. Now that they’ve trashed the frat house and taken their profits, they’ve going to leave a hellacious mess (both in recessionary recovery and human wreckage from the war) for the adults to clean up. Rethugs should be going to jail for their duplicity. Instead, they’ll retreat to their yachts and clubs, all the while laughing at the people who have to clean up their shitty mess.
Well, I can’t help but observe that another reason for the right-wing goons to cash in their chips is that there is nothing left to plunder. The bones of what used to be the working class are picked clean.
peanutbutter @ 5
Exactly!
This is where a 50-state strategy can pay off hugely.
LS @ 14
Are you sure they’re not just being called to give testimony?
cleter @ 113
You don’t think Bill Frist would’ve walked away from the Senate if he thought HIS health care business interests were really going to be in danger, do you? Of course, he did that when it appeared clear Hillary would win. Now that isn’t necessarily true.
Mike Infinity @ 133
The only Republicans who might move Dem are ‘traditional Repubs’ who are thoroughly disgusted with Bush & Co, ‘anti-Iraq-war Repubs’ who are thoroughly disgusted, ‘Bob Barr Civil Rights Repubs’ who are thoroughly disgusted, ‘good government, small government, low taxes Repubs’ who are thoroughly disgusted, ‘Libertarian Repubs’ who are thoroughly disgusted & might be cheated out of the nomination and maybe a few others. Just a few.
But, I hope they wait until we Dems pick OUR nominee and only join the Left during the general election campaign. It’s important for the party primary system to remain relatively pure.