The Senate will again take up the Habeas Restoration Act. Sens. Leahy and Dodd are asking for our help. While restoring the rule of law and voting to uphold the principles written into our nation’s constitution ought to be a given, it, unfortunately, has not been the last few years.
From the restorehabeas.org website:
The Habeas Corpus Restoration Act gives us a chance to reverse one of the Bush Administration’s many assaults on our civil liberties.
We all want to make America safe from terrorism, but becoming a nation that sanctions the unlawful detention of its own residents — detaining and jailing them without the chance to appear before a judge — does not make us safe. Instead, it violates a value that we have held dear for centuries — safeguarding our individual freedom before arbitrary state action.
In 2006, acting in reckless haste before an election, 65 senators and 250 members of the House defied the Constitution, endangered the safety of American soldiers and hurt the nation’s global reputation by passing the Military Commissions Act. The law created a separate, substandard and clearly unconstitutional system of trial and punishment for foreigners. This week Congress has a chance to begin fixing that grievous mistake.
The Senate is expected to consider a measure that would reverse one of the worst aspects of the 2006 law — the suspension of the right of habeas corpus, the ancient principle that no governing power may lock people up without the chance for a hearing in a court of law.
The protection from arbitrary arrest, embedded in the Magna Carta and in the Constitution of the United States, is one of the most powerful weapons against tyranny in democracy’s arsenal. Before President Bush, only one American president suspended habeas corpus — Abraham Lincoln, during the Civil War — and the Supreme Court duly struck down that arrogation of power….
On Constitution Day, it would do all of us well to remember that the rule of law, not the many whims of Bush, rules in the United States. And that includes a reminder to all the Bushies out there who are sending out resumes for the post-Bush era as fast as Cranes can print up more watermarked beige paper.
I will have more tomorrow on what we can do to push habeas restoration forward. In the meantime, restorehabeas.org has a couple of videos from Sens. Dodd and Leahy that I thought readers might find of interest. And Taylor has a great guest post from Sen. Dodd for the reading. Get ready to make some calls tomorrow. Your constitution needs you…
(Photo of the original Magna Carta via the National Archives.)
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- Holder Refuses to Stand by Statements Saying Violating FISA Breaks the Law
- Harry Reid Re-opens the Senate Floor to Amendments, but Promotes Unconstitutional Bills of Attainder on “Constitution Day”





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Zed
Hey Christy, hope you enjoyed the zoo.
I’d don’t give a shit about zed.
Restore Habeas Corpus.
Now!
Habeas Corpus and Zed!
FDL makes it easy.
Easy to give $ to candidates.
Easy to share ideas with like-minded people.
I love FDL.
My objective is revolution.
Jonathan @ 3
relax Lt.
Signed on as a sponsor Christy. Thanks.
Thanks for the heads up CHS
Good News another investigation (can anyone keep up?)
Waxman investigating Blackwater
http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/004207.php
If you haven’t seen the latest. Senator Leahy says no documents, no Mukasey.
Time to put the put the breaks on the runaway train.
We want our country back.
-GSD
raven @ 6
Hey, raven, I’m pissed.
Wow, I forgot it was Constitution Day, Mahalo, Redd!!! *g*
Jonathan @ 5
I’ll tell you what, I’ve tried really hard. When a book goes up here I try to buy it. When we are asked to give I try to but this shit with Noreiga and the Swift Boat Donor has really given me pause.
What will the rule of law look like if the Republicans win the WH in 2008?
Jonathan @ 10
So am I.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 13
What rule of law if they get elected?
Mc Cain wants to dump the United Nations and have an invitation only League of Democracy.
Dodd’s effort has been great lately.
raven @ 16
McCain is an old fool.
CHS “On Constitution Day, it would do all of us well to remember that the rule of law, not the many whims of Bush, rules in the United States.”
If this were true there would not be 4 million Iraqi refugees …one million Iraqi’s and 4000 Americans dead and people who will be injured for the rest of their lives. If only the “rule of law” ruled….the whole Bush administration would be in jail for the rest of their lives for war crimes.
raven @ 16
I’m sure he’ll give charter membership to our dear friends the Saudis and General Musharraff. They wanna be democrats.
-GSD
OT and EPU’ed
The NewsHour had on some weird dude Andrew Keen, a Silicon Valley type decrying bloggers whose most important duty apparently is to tell the world what they had for breakfast. Also did I mention that bloggers contribute to a fragmentation of daily life while the mass media create our American identity? And of course the corporate media are much more diverse than the blogosphere.
He almost had to wear a garland of garlic when talking about us DFHs.
GSD @ 20
Haven’t the wingnuts said that Osama is too?
Oklahoma kiddo @ 13
On Olbermann I believe it was last week John Dean said if a right wing Repub were to win the WH it would be all over in the US
JPL @ 15
The only way the resluglicans can win is if the electorial college votes are changed in Cali. I have seen people getting signatures for the ballot vote at the grocery.
We need to start a push back on this problem NOW.
Constitution? Wasn’t that the elusive piece of paper Republican Larry Craig was searcing for in the men’s room stall while attempting to elicit sex from a man in the adjoining stall?
Just signed on as a sponsor and left a voice mail for my Senators since I will not be able to call tomorrow.
Kathleen @ 23
Well, that settles it. I’m voting for a left-wing republican.
The GOP sez Osama is a big D Democrat.
-GSD
Hugh @ 21
First they ignore you….then
raven,
Are you a fiery speaker?
Can you lead us to the next level?
marymccurnin @ 24
That’s right. This has Rove written all over it.
GSD @ 20
Dean lied so much on this Sunday’s Meet the Press he lost any respect I had for him (the guy has been through so much). He just cannot believe what he says and if he does he is clinically insane.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032608/
Oklahoma kiddo @ 25
Yep, that’s the one that was left there on the floor after George W. Bush wiped his ass on it.
Bam, pow.
-GSD
I love that god-damned piece of paper!
Sally Field
marymccurnin @ 18
But he’s a real maverick when he isn’t selling out his last straight shootin’ position.
raven @ 27
funny
Kathleen,
McCain, not Dean.
:)
-GSD
P.S. McCain looked and played the role of buffoon and warmonger and crusty coot quite well.
raven @ 12
Wait, wait, what happened? Was at work all day with no access to FDL
OT-Sorry, Allison (filling in for Keith Olbermann tonight) just said he’s out recovering from emergency surgery to remove his appendix.
CHS is there anything we can do to support you with the CBS twiddle
Though I do support Sens. Leahy and Dodd’s efforts in this regard, I would also dearly love to have SCOTUS again affirmatively declare that the current Military Commissions Act is an unconstitutional “arrogation of power…”
Take that Doctor Quack and Doctor Quack-Attack…ahmmmm…excuse me…Junya and Deadeye!
If the Republicans get back in the WH in 2009, you can kiss Miranda good bye. And a bunch of other things.
Jonathan @ 30
I led a crowd from 6th and Green up to the Qaud and back over to 4th Street once upon a time. That was the same year that the anti-war group somehow ended up in the front of the 4th of July parade. When we got to Lincoln and Green we got attacked by rednecks and off duty cops. I,however, managed to get one in the death grip and give him a few good shots.
GSD @ 37
Thanks I have been working outside in the sun all day
Christy, This is really the best news I have heard in a while. What a great day it is when I find out Leahy and Dodd are doing the right thing, right now, and keeping you/us posted.
Leahy was really heart warming and inspirational in his speech about this on the senate floor today.
Off to sign the petition…
raven @ 14
Testify
CHS, thank you for all along with everybody who comments, as I said on another post, the education I get here is more than one would ever get in a classroom on the subjects covered so well here, even at :)(Yale-snark)(:– which way is a smile?
Kathleen @ 32
Do you mean McCain?
Eagles have a new “album” coming out. Not out yet, but Mr. LS heard it and said it is great. Great stuff – like Pure Prairie League and old Eagles. Sorry for OT
Twain @ 47
yes..I’ve been in the sun all day
One minute it’s furious anger over these Bushite pukes and the next minute it’s howling, serial laughter!…(until you consider his prior five-year old victims…)
http://www.clickondetroit.com/…..etail.html
raven @ 43
raven,
the reason i ask is that a revolution needs a leader,
i’m a good public speaker but not a fiery leader
Hiya Christy. We need to get our rights back!
Yes being Citizens Day, I did exercise my 1st amendment right by calling the White House comment line and expressed the opinion the CONSTITUTION should be shoved up their *ascist as*es. De-evolution is taking place here folks. Where the consent of the governed is ignored, instead usurped by alinged interests who seek to maintain the energy stranglehold on America, at America’s expense, while their profits soar!!!! What a deal for America and the world? “Instilled needs by corporate design, just conditioned minds………….”
>
Wait, wait, what happened? Was at work all day with no access to FDL
This would be Rick Noriega.
raven @ 12
Uh-oh. I skip one or two days of FDL and miss something big – especially as I’m in Texas. I really don’t want to know, ’cause Mikal Watts sure isn’t someone I can support..but can someone tell me what this refers to?
Jonathan @ 51
It ain’t me babe, no no no, it ain’t me bae, it ain’t me you’re lookin for.
Yikes raven! That is sooooo not cool of him. Thanks for the info.
I can do that. Sounds like a great way to spent a Tuesday. The fact that it’s constitution Day is just a bonus. :)
So am I really behind? Did everyone know about Olbermann’s surgery and it was only a surprise to me?
And just where was Alan Greespan when George W. Bush was pushing all these tax cuts for the rich through? And now he (Greenspan) gives us this Iraq was all about oil business. Greenspan, you are a disgrace.
raven @ 12
raven, someone pointed me to a prior comment from TSF on this: here.
As for BA candidates, I am quite sure that Howie Klein keeps a very close eye on them. If Noriega steps over the line again (as he did with the blogger comment) I’m sure we’ll hear from Howie. He is tireless in keeping track of the candidates. So, I hope that wasn’t meant to diss Howie.
I donate to BA candidates, but only small amounts, and not to all. Don’t have the $$ do do otherwise. And, after the Noriega dust-up, I am only giving to BA candidates with a known track record. Otherwise, I am taking a “wait and see” attitude.
And, if you read Howie’s blog DWT, you can probably read between the lines, as to which BA candidates are at the top of his personal list.
LoudounLib @ 57
I’ve been informed that lot’s of people take this kind of money if they do it and don’t do what the donor wants.
SnarKassandra @ 52
You feeling okay now?
The rule of law is only for us “little people.” Leona Helmsley may have been a c*** extraordinaire, but her maxim applies to power, politics, and taxes.
When we attack, we win. When we cower, we lose. The revolution comes when enough people realize we’ve been cut out of the deal.
Oh yeah it’s all ready been determined that McCain is insane
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/…..th-mccain/
MCCain bomb Iran
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-zoPgv_nYg
The guy who asked this question is also a complete sicko “when do we send an air mail messsage to Iran” What a creep
OT, but:
What’s with this increasing divide between news and editorial positions in the NYT? In the past week it has become bizarre. I know nothing beyond what I can read on the masthead; are Bill Keller (News) and Andrew Rosenthal (Opinion) speaking to each other any more? Will it be pistols at dawn?
tejanarusa @ 55
SnarKassandra @ 52
Cassie ‘32!!! 8-)
Looks like the American Cancer Society now has an action network. “Everyone should have access to healthcare for cancer.” Haven’t had a chance to investigate.
Valley Girl @ 60
I know that later in that thread I pointed out that even Howie could be hoodwinked, witness John Barrow. I like Teddy way too much to get into it with him on his comment.
JPL @ 62
Yep! Went back to school and everything.
TheOtherWA @ 39
Will miss Keith. Allison just doesn’t have the same punch.
Maddy @ 46
To the Left my dear, to the Left!
:-)
Great post Christy! Hi everyone. Classes out of the way and I have some time tomorrow for phone calls. Missed the Katie post, I would have loved to jump on that item. There must be majore insecurities over there (and how).
I saw Alan Greenspan yesterday on 60 minutes. What a corrupt political impresario. I am glad he is getting clobbered.
I sent a chunk to Move-On last week in thanks for their ad. Anyone have any data on their membership rolls and financing in the aftermath of the ad?
raven @ 54
Aww, man….well, taking money doesn’t NECESSARILY mean you’ll do their bidding…I’ll suspend judgment for a little while….
mui @ 71
Mighty big shoes to fill… However, she does an admirable job!!!
” Ms. Ghuman said that officers tore up her H-1B visa, which was valid through May 2008, defaced her British passport, and seemed suspicious of everything from her music cassettes to the fact that she had listed Welsh as a language she speaks.
Destroying government documents such as the visa is illegal. So is defacing a passport, be it US or from another country.”
Then there were the threats..
Held incommunicado in a room in the airport, she was groped during a body search, she said, and was warned that if she moved, she would be considered to be attacking her armed female searcher. After questioning her for hours, the officers told her that she had been ruled inadmissible, she said, and threatened to transfer her to a detention center in Santa Clara, Calif., unless she left on a flight to London that night.
Meanwhile, her fiancee called the British Consulate, who tried to get through to the officials, but were unable to.”
This crappola really is abominable.
http://dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/9/17/135336/923
Did y’all see this? Does it matter?
Matt Drudge To Retire.
from Think Youth | News and Opinion by America’s Progressive Youth by KoKo
Editor’s Note: This post was put through an anti-Koko propaganda filter before being published.
Internet URL collector and right-wing radio show host Matt Drudge will retire from his radio post on Sept. 30. The non-biased internet journalist trash piler will continue his popular garbage site The Drudge Report.
Newsmax.
A local Cincinnati radio host will replace Internet journalist Matt Drudge on his syndicated radio show when he goes off the air at the end of September.
Bill “Willie” Cunningham, who hosts an early afternoon show on WLW-AM in Cincinnati, will take over for Drudge and host “Live on Sunday Night with Bill Cunningham,” which will be heard Sundays nights from 9 p.m. to midnight on some 325 affiliates of Clear Channel co-owned Premiere Radio Networks.
The affiliates have been told that Drudge is leaving radio to concentrate on his Web site and other ventures, the Cincinnati Enquirer reports.
Cunningham will host his first show on Oct. 7. He has been heard nationally before, filling in for Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity on their radio programs.
tejanarusa @ 74
Sorry, my shit with the Swift Boat Vets and their sponsors allow no slack. I’m not telling other people what to do.
While being interviewed on Hardball today, I liked the “fly” on McCain’s head. I wonder what attracted the fly????
raven @ 12
What did I miss. I don’t think I quite trust Noriega, but I don’t have any money anyway. But I’m not sure what you meant by Swift Boat Donor. Do tell! I really think I missed the reference.
OT
A short blurb about Blackwater from Robert Greenwald’s Iraq For Sale.Mad Dogs @ 72
LS @ 76
This was disgusting. Strange times indeed.
My husband would much rather watch Alison than Keith :)
Glad the dems are worried about restoring constitutional rights on the day our Constitution was ratified.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 59
Wait, we invaded Iraq over oil? I thought it was for the sand.
James Joyce @ 79
The stench of death…??? ;-)
Tithonia @ 83
Husbands and boyfriends are like that. Allison is kind of cute and she’s all right. I once had a boyfriend who *loved* mariah carey.
What did I miss. I don’t think I quite trust Noriega, but I don’t have any money anyway. But I’m not sure what you meant by Swift Boat Donor. Do tell! I really think I missed the reference.
AUSTIN — A Democratic state lawmaker who touts his military service in Afghanistan as a qualification in his campaign for a U.S. Senate seat next year has accepted nearly $10,000 from the Houston businessman who donated millions for the so-called Swift Boat ads that helped torpedo John Kerry’s presidential campaign in 2004, reports filed with the state ethics commission show.
TheOtherWA @ 58
Yes…we were gonna have you down a couple of martinis before we told you, but we finished ‘em ourselves before you got here…hic…excuse me…hic…oh Keithie, now who’s gonna drive?…hic.
I goofed the link for blacwater:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..64730.html
James Joyce @ 79
In some parts of Africa one would say that it represents someone now dead come back to make him take notice of something important (lots of dead Iraq soldiers out there none too happy with him I bet).
James Joyce @ 79
decaying matter?
raven @ 54
Would that Houston businessman be Bob Perry?
raven @ 69
Thanks for info, raven. Haven’t had time to read whole thread. I’ll check that about John Barrow via google, or whatever. But, I can’t remember Howie saying anything nice about him.
Anyway, Howie and BA provide good info about progressive candidates. And, he doesn’t let up on calling them out, if he finds he’s been hoodwinked.
But, as I said, I don’t have $$ to give to all. So, I necessarily have to pick and choose. Eric Massa, Donna Edwards, Tom Allen are a few of my faves.
Jonathan @ 3
Well zed! –I mean, well said!
Bob in HI
Tithonia @ 83
My wife is enamored with Keith, I wonder why…?!!! 8-)
john in sacramento @ 93
Yea, but it’s ok because other dems have taken his money too.
Excuse me…..Office of Special Counsel runs out of $ in Rove investigation. Heh.
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/…..o-funding/
Hugh @ 85
Well, and then there is that little thing called profits for GE, Blackwater and the military-industrial comples. Also Bush’s Dad complex (offing Sadam for threatening Bush I). Oh….and te issue of Is*ael (making the ME safer through Democracy). Oil is only part of the piece.
raven @ 97
Boneheads.
Thanks for info, raven. Haven’t had time to read whole thread. I’ll check that about John Barrow via google, or whatever. But, I can’t remember Howie saying anything nice about him.
Anyway, Howie and BA provide good info about progressive candidates. And, he doesn’t let up on calling them out, if he finds he’s been hoodwinked.
But, as I said, I don’t have $$ to give to all. So, I necessarily have to pick and choose. Eric Massa, Donna Edwards, Tom Allen are a few of my faves.
The Barrow stuff is old business and Howie has addressed it. He’s from here in Athens and he had people here thinking he was a progressive.
raven @ 43
Isn’t what I’ve bolded the same thing? Redundant?
If this new guy for AG gets confirmed, what can we expect (aside from pr)?
What has changed after all the “how’s it going in Iraq’ reports? 0
Here we enter the Kafka-esque system in which obvious mistakes of identity, of fact, etc., cannot be corrected because they cannot be discovered. How does this make any sense at all?
This is one of the saddest things I have ever read. If we needed any more proof that our country is no longer the “beacon of freedom” to the world, there it is.
CTuttle @ 96
A hint…why don’t you just ask her?
I’m just saying that people are all pissedoff and firedup here, but let’s all talk to the people that we live with and we care about too?
LS @ 98
I’m positive the $3 Mil could be earmarked…!!! ;-)
raven @ 101
okay. bec. all I can remember from DWT is Howie bashing Barrow (and others) as hopeless, in several contexts.
Mad Dogs @ 89
LOL! I’m not that upset, but I’ll take the martini’s anyway. :)
And Allison Stewart is a very good substitute for Keith. But Keith’s cuter.
Hugh @ 85
I only want sand if it comes with a gulf or an ocean or something.
Isn’t what I’ve bolded the same thing? Redundant? Interestingly, a couple of years later a woman I was in class with at the local JC came up to me. She said. “my brother was one of the people who attacked you that day. he knows now that you were right about the war and he was wrong”.
raven said:
I can’t blame you for that.
Oh… so now this guy for AG is being billed as more of a ‘traditional’ conservative.
Fight.
Gather here and talk.
But fight.
okay. bec. all I can remember from DWT is Howie bashing Barrow (and others) as hopeless, in several contexts.
No doubt, Howie was not pleased.
Richmond @ 82
I’m more than a little concerned about a family trip planned for next year to Scotland – I can see us all lined up to go and TSA snags my 20-year-old son, who frankly between the glasses, goatee and ’stash, and the wild curly hair, bears a very close resemblance to Leon Trotsky. All we’d need -
SnarKassandra @ 110
*g*
demi @ 106
*sheesh* I certainly commune with my better half, Demi! I obviously failed in my snark alert…!!! *g*
In preparation for this week, last week I wrote a 500 word essay on the Constitution, talking mainly about how the Boosh admessteration had trampled all over it, providing an excuse to talk about impeachment, and inviting the reader to let our congress-critters to know what they thought about it. [”Comments” can be 500-600 words here, whereas letters to the editor are limited to only 175 words, I think.] I submitted the essay to both our local papers and asked that it be published this week.
I haven’t heard yet if either will be published.
Bob in HI
FYI, just before Senator Reid adjourned the Senate for the evening an hour or so ago, he offered a cloture motion for Leahy’s habeas amendment to the Defense Authorization Bill.
So at least one Republican Senator is apparently objecting to an up or down vote on the measure, and the Senate will need 60 votes to proceed to it. I’m not clear whether that vote will take place tomorrow afternoon, or if it needs to wait until perhaps the next day.
[Long-winded aside on the manipulations of the process regarding the FY 2008 Defense Authorization Bill now on the floor that I’m trying to watch for: A Congressional Quarterly reporter named Donnelly (who sounds like a partisan hack - though that’s going by a very brief impression of him) seems to be writing as fact something that would be key if true: namely that the vital and sundry votes re the Iraq occupation now being drafted will not be offered as amendments to the Defense Authorization Bill but instead will be forced to stand alone - just as Harry Reid indicated he would prefer last Wednesday. This seems to have been information Donnelly received from Carl Levin, the bill’s manager.
In other words, the enormous leverage represented by that bill would be abandoned in lieu of stand-alone votes on Iraq which Bush can easily and simply veto. It’s possible Donnelly and Levin are trying to make this true before it is, however. Harry Reid said nothing on the floor about it, and seems to be watching what he says. And Jeff Sessions has already been on the floor whining that the president might ‘have to’ veto the Defense Authorization Bill (which has been passed unfailingly for decades) if the wrong amendments are included - like a Hate Crimes Bill, etc. [That’s the president’s choice and prerogative, Sessions - they’re called priorities…] But Sessions also seemed to indicate that the Republicans were okay with amendments and debates having to do with troop reductions on this bill, so he didn’t confirm, at least, that any Iraq votes will be on a “parallel track” independent of the Authorization Bill itself, as Donnelly/CQ has indicated.
Heavy-duty negotiating is I’m sure continuing behind the scenes. THIS is the key juncture where we desperately need a principled group of senators to stand united and to stay strong…]
SnarKassandra @ 77
So who now will rule the world of the rightwing Beltway punditocracy?
bobschacht @ 119
Was this what you posted on your site?
Howie has posted a very interesting letter sent by 9 progressive Democratic freshmen in Congress to George Bush:
Short sentences and action verbs.
Facts, facts, and more facts.
Conclusions based on facts.
My old English teacher would be so proud of these letter writers.
Can we have more like this, please?
nevermind
Whoops – my 105 was a comment on the piece about musicologist N Ghuman being detained, her visa being torn up, etc, etc, and sent back to Britain. In case my choice of quotes wasn’t clear.
I will continue to support the candidates that Howie brings to FDL. You can’t get it right everytime and I am putting my money on Howie and all the work he does. The alternative is depending on the DLC and Rahm.
raven @ 88
I wouldn’t write Noriega off right away. But definitely seems like an occasion for serious scrutiny. What could be more repulsive than the swiftboat cabal?
I think Carney cheated Blue America, but others have been good. I like what I’ve seen so far in Cohen of TN and wouldn’t want Harold Ford in his seat. Ned Lamont is a great guy (I still have heart pangs that he is not my senator.)
Peterr @ 123
If I had more time I would have written you a shorter letter.
Peterr @ 123
ooo, my guy, Mike Arcuri signed – good going. I’m going to email him right now with an “attaboy”.
Talk here.
But fight.
Has anyone noticed or picked up a change in the host of Hardball’s temperment towards “war proponants” the past 2-3 shows???
mui @ 127
Ant two weeks ago we weren’t writing him off because of his blogegr statements. If it quacks. .
CTuttle @ 118
allright, I’m glad you commune.
Not everybody does.
Didn’t mean to insuate.
Just worried for ya, okay?
Peterr @ 123
that cartoon is priceless!
Here is the article from Raw about Yearwood and the conservative who took the stage at the DC rally. Watch the video. Makes you think there is hope:
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/….._0916.html
SnarKassandra @ 110
Shorter Junya: “One Persian Gulf, commin’ right up. Ya want that with beans?”
James Joyce @ 131
More like 2-3 years ; )
Many have been yelling about getting out of Iraq since before the occupation began.
raven @ 78
This is all just additional evidence to me that Noriega talks out of both sides of his mouth, what the Indians call, speaks with forked tongue. Besides, I have a real dislike for a panderer who will smile in your face while he stabs you in the back.
LS @ 100
In my book , it’s about as low as accepting money from Mel Sembler (Romney, HoJoe), or Rupert Murdoch (you all know who.)
James Joyce @ 131
How about four years ago. Matthews definitely turned up the heat when he realized he had been duped.
We’re going to attack Iran soon.
Jonathan @ 130
Fighting for peace is like fucking for chastity.
SnarKassandra @ 110
Got it! But you have to come get it.
Bob in HI
The Noriega story has been on the Agonist (Sean-Paul Kelly was, until a couple weeks ago, in San Antonio). The latest is here. I read thru an earlier post and it just made me thankful that I don’t have to deal with Texas politics (or bloggers on Texas politics).
Maxine is up on CSPAN 1
tune her in
raven @ 132
*nod head* I think I begin to understand . . .
The insertion of a single letter strengthens the statement.
Kathleen @ 141
Yea, after he put John O’ Neil from the SBVT’s on the goddamn tube every other night.
pow wow @ 120
The enemy isn’t the folks lining the march on 9-15.
Ignorant, stupid people.
The opposition is congress.
pow wow @ 120
Is that from you watching C-SPAN, reading CQ, or something else?
raven @ 128
I could write him a letter with two words that are short, and with action ;-)
GordonM @ 145
Very good, thanks.
CTuttle @ 118
You didn’t fail. I thought it was funny. Personally, I’m in love with Waxman. Go figure.
Move-on.org need not be ashamed! -Maxine Waters
After years of delicate negotiations, nearly thwarted by bribery allegations, Britain and Saudi Arabia announced yesterday they had signed a deal for the sale of 72 Eurofighter Typhoon fighter aircraft for £4.43bn.
demi @ 133
A country boy will survive…!!!
john in sacramento @ 153
Actually I think it was T.S. Eliot who said that.
Elliott @ 122
Facebook profile, or PDH blog?
I haven’t posted it anywhere yet, but I will. Actually, I have two versions, one slightly longer than the other. If the newspapers don’t publish it, I’ll put it up on our PDH blog. Or maybe I’ll put it up on our blog either way, but give them time to publish it first. If you or anyone wants to see it, let me know on Facebook and I’ll send it.
Bob in HI
CTuttle @ 158
I can skin a buck
or run a trot line
Cozumel @ 137
Seems more pronounced of late, rolling eyes, and this look on his face like “what are you *ucking talking about dude?”. Maybe he is ready to pull a “Mad Money Nutty?” Just can’t take the blatant lies anymore!!!!
Looks phoggy in Philly
Richmond @ 73
I heard today on Air America that membership is up to 1.3 million. Last I heard, it was 1.2. I don’t know about money generated, but I’m interested too. Hope we took in millions on the Betrayus ad!
Oh, raven.
Girls say yes to boys who say no.
raven back to part of your comment above
where you said “really given me pause”.
I think we are on the same page, more or less. I’m not planning on donating more $$ to Noriega. It would be great to have Cormorant, or what ever the heck is name is, out of the Senate. But, I like other BA candidates better.
Howie does near super-human work on the political front. But, being human, he can err. And, he sure as heck doesn’t like being deceived.
The “given me pause” comment made me think that perhaps you are dissing all of Howie’s work, just on a few examples. I hope not. Howie does an enormous service to us, work that I would not possibly have the time or the skills to do. But, really, it is left up to each person to decide who, and what candidates they choose to give $$ to. Caveat emptor.
pow wow @ 120
I’m not sure how these votes are going to fall out either, but if the Republicans want to filibuster I would make them filibuster not just threaten one. I still think though that they should insert all of this stuff in the Defense Appropriations Bill when it goes to conference.
LS @ 135
Yeah, I saw it on CSPAN last night. Yearwood is the real deal.
Bob in HI
raven at 12-”I’ll tell you what, I’ve tried really hard. When a book goes up here I try to buy it. When we are asked to give I try to but this shit with Noreiga and the Swift Boat Donor has really given me pause.”
hey raven-the letter i sent to noriega came back, invalid email address…….searched emails i got from them, no email, searched the website to find one, not there…..called the office in tx and left a message…….do you have an email for him?
and i left you a message in other thread that i didn’t post the letter in comments, you said i was way more polite than you were, well, maybe not, that was just a comment about blackwater……
Hugh @ 121
Drudge. That was just about his radio show. Didn’t even know he had one.
Elliott @ 156
Maxine Waters has to be one of the most courageous persons in congress. The first person in Congress to support Lamont, and I am pretty sure she’s stood up first on other things as well.
Mad Dogs @ 136
Beans are included– because you’re gonna get gas, right?
Bob in HI
raven @ 161
Heh, and I can cook the proceeds…!!! ;-)
raven @ 154
I am not sure what to make of it…but it smells..I think it’s time for Howie Klein to make a phone call to Rick.
Thanks LS for the link about Yearwood.
mui @ 172
You are so right.
and it was an inspiring speech tonght. I love her. And Thank God for the Congressional Black Caucus.
Valley Girl @ 166
No no no no no, not at all. Howie had nothing at all to do with this. The only reason I mentioned him is because he was taken in by Barrow’s charade. And all this makes it sound like I know Howie. . .I don’t. I guess what I am saying is that I am going to be more careful about donating. I have a tendency to assume that if someone is here on the Lake they are legit. This situation has nothing to do with Jane, Christy or anyone else. Let the buyer beware. I did, however, send a terse note to Act Blue.
Wow, Alison has a serious plunging V-line, eh??? ;-)
Oklahoma kiddo @ 142
That would be sheer lunacy, so it must make sense to george and dick.
CTuttle @ 179
You are supposed to be LISTENING !
GordonM @ 171
Well, Mark Halperin and John Harris will sleep better tonight at least.
revolution!
what else do you need?
ideas?
a leader?
chants and slogans?
Twain @ 181
Oops, almost MNF time…!!! :P
OT: I just finished a post about the mercenaries in Iraq that the Iraqis are kicking out.
CTuttle @ 184
almost?
mui @ 172
I like her a lot!
Jonathan @ 183
Mao said “Revolution came from the barrel of a gun”. That’s my frame of reference and I decided a long time ago that I wasn’t picking one up again. I don’t think you are really talking about a revolution. If you are pick up Steinbeck’s “In Dubious Battle”.
Twain @ 181
Sigh. My remote doesn’t have a ’scroll down’ button
Cozumel @ 189
Stand up.
Elliott @ 186
True, I don’t like either team…!!! ;-)
Blackwater
http://www.crooksandliars.com/…..hadow-war/
Blackwater” Author describes the US civilian Militia Group’s relationship with BushCo. “Shadow War”
By: John Amato on Monday, September 17th, 2007 at 2:54 PM – PDT
scahill.jpg Jeremy Scahill, author of “Blackwater: The Rise of the World’s Most Powerful Mercenary Army,” appeared on CNN and blasted BushCo. for fostering this private militia mentality because he wasn’t able to build an international coalition to invade Iraq.
THIS IS REALLY WORTH THE WATCH
CTuttle @ 191
8:30 now that it’s on ESPN.
raven,
IMO, the USA needs a revolution.
Am revolution needs a leader.
I don’t see such a leader until 10 to 20 years from today.
I know that we’re fucked in the meantime.
And anyone who disagrees has his or her head in the sand.
This stinks to High Heaven
The United States of AT&T
emptywheel
Britney Spears Management Co. is dropping her! Big News and shiny!
raven @ 188
Here is another take on revolution worth reading: http://www.geocities.com/moonh…..ution.html
CTuttle @ 191
I miss Jeff Garcia
raven @ 188
Well the Civil Rights era was revolutionary. Mao was uncouth.
Anyone reading this?
Elliott @ 198
I miss Jerry a lot more!
SnarKassandra @ 185
Condi “I know nothing” Rice can’t be bothered to do any diplomacy wrt to Iraq, but when it comes to profiteering, she’s all business.
raven @ 178
Thanks for the clarification, raven. The part about “I am going to be more careful about donating” was exactly my reaction to the first Noriega blogger blowup. Especially as the BA thread where Noriega was to talk to us was pretty much blog-swarmed by pro-Noriega Texas bloggers. He actually did not answer many of the substantive questions from regulars at FDL/ BA.
As for giving, I read the BA chats, tho usually not in real time. But, how the candidate responds to questions is very important. As I said, I have to pick and choose. But now, my first choices will be those with a long track record.
ccmask @ 196
MSM almost blatantly accused her today of hiring a hitman to kill her husband! Crazy stuff. You are right…shiny object. That and OJ should hypnotize the nation until January, 2009 and beyond.
mui @ 199
If you call murdering millions of people uncouth.
raven @ 201
well, me too :)
Elliott @ 198
Heh, careful, we don’t want to raise hackles… I’m disappointed with the B-Ball scores currently…!!!
Tom Friedman is the most arrogant mother fucking person I have heard in ages. This guy definitely needs to be dropped butt ass naked down in the middle of an Iraqi refugee camp. Let the Iraqi people deal with this type of warmongering psycho path. Watch this tape
http://www.crooksandliars.com/…..this-iraq/
Peterr @ 152
From watching C-SPAN, which had Donnelly on Washington Journal this morning and re-ran that interview, and then cited one of his articles in CQ later in the day during interludes on the floor when the C-SPAN voice-over (repeatedly) recapped the day’s (and the week’s pending) developments in the Senate.
The Defense Appropriations Bill (the actual money, which is a separate bill from this defense policy Authorization Bill) will be next on the agenda after the Authorization Bill, according to Reid today – probably sometime next week.
I agree, Hugh @ 167 – that’s why I’m trying to watch to see who’s leading any cave-in charge on this for the Democrats (besides Harry Reid last week). So far the Republicans seem fairly sanguine about developments with regard to this bill, which seems potentially ominous. If they ain’t squawking, the Democrats ain’t opposing…
1,601 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND..
Citizen Hardin Smith and the Firepup Patriots:
Now, I’m gunna fire a shot that may shake a few folks up but when has that ever stopped me? I am SICK of hearin about the “rule of law” from both sides a the ball. We have NEVER lived under a “rule of law”… we have struggled for over 225 years to achieve the IDEA of the rule of law, as the Founders envisioned us to struggle…but we have NEVER achieved even close to a “rule of law” as it applies to all citizens at all times.
From the very beginning, Blacks, women, children and native Americans were included in “the rule of law” only by specific omission. And after 1877, poor people in general were institutionally disenfranchised by the way the economy and the law developed in synergy. Today with 26 years of packing of the federal judiciary, not jest the Supreme Court, we have a situation where institutionally we will never be able to even approach the ideal of the rule of law with the tools the Constitution gives us. We have given up the struggle for “the rule of law” and surrendered the battle for a just and democratic society.
So let’s play POLITICS hard and recognize the limitations we have allowed to be institutionalized in the system the Founders gave us. We are in an existential battle with an authoritarian oligarchy that has killed the idea of rule of law and is usin the shell of a judicial system to enslave the majority of us.
Sorry to be such a downer but things are movin’ so fast lately that we don’t wanna lose sight of the reality of the loses we have already suffered.
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION!!
Well my telephone was ringing
And they told me it was Chairman Mao
Well my telephone was ringing
And they told me it was Chairman Mao
You can tell him anything
‘Cause I just don’t wanna talk to him now
I’ve got the apolitical blues
And that’s the meanest blues of all
Apolitical blues
And that’s the meanest blues of all
I don’t care if it’s John WayneI just don’t wanna talk to him now
Dan Abrams is in Las Vegas, I’m SHOCKED!
not
Back to homework. See y’all at late night.
raven @ 205
People have called Stalin “uncouth.” Forgive the understatement. I was thinking of his pearls of wisdom and not the results.
Elliott @ 195
That is some serious fuckery.
If you’ve never read the text of Magna Carta, it’s worth doing. It’s an amazing document, given when it was signed.
Magna Carta
It stunned me the first time I read it, about 35 years ago. If anything, it stunned me even more after W and the guys did away with Habeas Corpus. (Oh, WOO HOO — I learned how to do that “name a linky” thingy… I’m so proud I could just BUST!)
Dayam, Norske, pass the napalm!!! 8-)
mui @ 214
And I was bein the snark shark.
Six hundred Iranian Shihab-3 missiles are pointed at targets throughout Israel, and will be launched if either Iran or Syria are attacked, an Iranian website affiliated with the regime reported on Monday.
On Sunday, French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner said that the nuclear Iranian crisis forces the world “to prepare for the worst,” and said that in this case it “is war.”
Kouchner’s statements came just hours after US Defense Secretary Robert Gates reiterated the Bush administration’s commitment, at least for the time being, to using diplomatic and economic means to counter the potential nuclear threat from Iran.
SnarKassandra @ 213
Laters, Gators…!!!
Eureka Springs @ 215
Torchforks and pitches!
raven @ 161
Anybody in Central Texas, beware. Last week bees attacked a horse at my old ranch in South Austin. The horse died. It has been confirmed that the bees were africanized honey bees. Horrible. The bee expert who came to eradicate the hive, had 100 bees attacking his glove alone!
CTuttle @ 217
Wille peter make you a believer.
raven @ 218
You are, you are.
demi @ 222
I said,
Don’t come up there and make me find ya!
Talk about yer teasing!
Elliott @ 195
Corruption in Washington is like an onion. Peel back one layer and you find another layer.
Box of Rain http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_UQmUvOqQU
It’s easy (as I know) to sit on one’s ass.
Get up and move!
And join some fucking march!
bobschacht @ 173
Beans and Rice?? (late night last night!)
Beautiful job, Rep. David Scott of Georgia on the floor of the House just now… [I saw Barbara Lee and Maxine Waters and Sheila Jackson Lee telling the truth about Iraq with conviction as well - but Scott really packed a punch with his delivery - give him more airtime, powers that be!] Good for these guys and gals. They are really standing their ground, with grit and guts. [In a special order hour about Iraq organized by members of the Congressional Black Caucus and Stephanie Tubbs-Jones.]
Jonathan @ 183
It is no game Kiddo.. There are real consequences for actions taken and words spoken. What else do you need? I’ll tell you, a recognition that it may cost you your life. It is called sacred honor. To few Americans are willing to sacrifice the cocoons of pleasure for principle. Those that have, MLK, RFK, JFK. See America we have experienced terrorist before. Oswald, Sirhan, Rudolph, Son of Sam, these people where all terrorist. It is just how the media packages it, and how the public “SWALLOWS,” like a big mouth bass swallows a red tailed rubber worm, hook line and bait!!!!
It is indeed sad so many have died, out of “duty” and the rule of law which this President ignores while his oil friends reap the benefits and prosper. Like Greenspan said “politically inconvenient,” and the dead. I have had enough of this bullshit and can not take it anymore!
Impeach the greedy myopic oil whores!!!!!!
What’s up? Why is everyone so pissed off on this site? War in Iraq is won – the surge worked. Economy is fine (interest rate cut tomorrow). Crime is down.
What’s up with you people? Don’t you have better thing to do in life then bitch and moan? Seriously, go out and get some air. Maybe bathe once in a while too.
Jonathan @ 194
Jonathan, I’ll try again. The currents that create big political change (whether ‘revolutions’ or ‘coups’) are mostly hidden. When they become visible, it’s pretty much over. The Bushco wave is right now at it’s noisiest (and it’s still dangerous), but in historical terms, it’s over. If he wanted to trash the Constitution and declare a dictatorship he should have done it by 2004. He still has the reins of power, but he has nothing to sustain that power except for a handul of Regent grads in the DoJ and some nutcase x-tianists in the AF. Yes, he can still do damage, but the strong current that gave him power is done.
We still need to fight, but that’s to insure the 30% or so of the Am public which has woken up doesn’t go back to sleep.
The economy is both the bad news and the good news. The bad news is that it is fucked – there is a big recession coming, and it could be a depression, and the US will lose it’s leadership position. But that is also good news, because the one thing that wakes Americans up is the economy. If things are OK, you can sell tax cuts and wars that don’t make sense, but when things are bad, you can’t sell anything that doesn’t make sense. (And one thing we’ve been sold is an oil-guzzling lifestyle which very clearly makes no sense.)
James Joyce @ 79
Proves it. McCain’s a shithead.
demi @ 226
Thankin’ ya mods.
My Spelling.
And, did someone put something in the water tonight?
Marion in Savannah @ 216
Congrats on labeling linkys! And thanks for the Magna Carta link. One of those things one should have read long ago, but slipped through the cracks.
pow wow @ 231
Ah, do we have another Blue Dog (proudly has the logo on his homepage) with alotta bark and no bite? After the last few years, I only pay attention to action and results now. Been fooled by too many rip roarin’ speeches.
We should all be calling our Reps demanding that they pass legislation (Senator Webbs SB ) that would require the Bush administration to come back through congress on the situation with Iran.
where is that legislation
http://www.roanoke.com/politics/wb/wb/xp-107427
Former Sen. John Edwards (D-N.C.) and Sen. Joseph Biden (D-Del.) are the only 2008 Democrats on record as backing Webb’s effort. Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) took the Bush administration to task on Iran in a Feb. 14 floor speech, supporting the spirit of Webb’s effort, if not his specific language.
http://www.commondreams.org/ar…..04/18/601/
“It would be a mistake of historical proportion if the administration thought that the 2002 resolution authorizing force against Iraq was a blank check for the use of force against Iran without further congressional authorization,” Clinton said.
When asked whether Clinton would vote for Webb’s language, a spokesman for the New Yorker took a wait-and-see approach, saying it depends on the format in which it reaches the floor.
Where is that legislation? Damn the Dems are chickenshits.
Ignatius J. Reilly @ 233
Has a “fly” landed on or entered your head, compromising your cognitive reasoning abilities and critical thinking skills like McCain???
Mad Dogs @ 72
Ah, but smiles for left-handed people and Aussies are the other way around! (-:
Frowns are: )-:
Kathie (-: (left-handed)
bonkers @ 238 – Thanks, I was just going to check on that, because I thought I remembered his name as a member of the Blue Dogs (one of only two African-American members, I believe).
On this topic, this guy is no stereotypical Blue Dog, however – I’d guarantee that going forward, after seeing that speech, and without checking his previous votes. More proof that these Blue Dogs cannot and should not be considered as a monolith on issues, by any means. [This anti-occupation position actually makes Scott an “honest” Blue Dog, to boot - because allegedly their organizing principle is fiscal responsibility and careful stewardship of the nation’s finances, which no one in favor of occupying Iraq is practicing.]
Rep. Scott was pleading with the Congress not to “act too late” to end our involvement in Iraq, and thereby unnecessarily end any more lives. I’m sure he’ll be backing up those words with meaningful action, in this case, based on the company he was keeping tonight, and the passionate (but slow-paced and somber) intensity he conveyed.
KathieinMN @ 241
But they are standing upside down.
GSD @ 9
Fuck Schumer.
Maddy @ 228
Phil Lesh tune about the passing of his father.
A classic song. I miss the Dead circe ‘67-72.
GordonM @ 234
Gordin, I always for the most part love your comments.
But, hoss. They are going to try and do Iran.
That alone will start WW3.
What part of complete planetary desctruction don’t fall under this that we can say, they are ‘weakened’ and their time has passed?
On this one, hoss, yer killin me. Make it better, if you can . . . I don’t see it.
demi @ 236
Big dose of clarity and rightousness?
raven @ 17
I LIKE CHRIS DODD!!!!!!! Unlike so many he understands what is at stake here. Being half german I have no tolerance or patience for self seving piece of dog poop coverned with flies anymore!!!!