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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/17/new-moveon-ad/#comment-974947</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 00:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I THOUGHT WE WERE ALL ON THE SAME SIDE? GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF THE SAND, YOU IDEALOG!!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/17/new-moveon-ad/#comment-974941</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 00:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;U PEOPLE ARE SCARY, LAY OFF THE SELF PITTY&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/17/new-moveon-ad/#comment-974938</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 00:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-973781&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Lindy @ 13&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I found out a long time ago that the wealthy think it’s perfectly alright to screw someone over, as long as they’re polite about it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-973781"><em>Lindy @ 13</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>I found out a long time ago that the wealthy think it’s perfectly alright to screw someone over, as long as they’re polite about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Alecia</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/17/new-moveon-ad/#comment-974296</link>
		<dc:creator>Alecia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 21:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What is painful for the other side, is that MoveOn was able to cut the string from their trial balloon of having a military that was loyal them and not to the country.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is painful for the other side, is that MoveOn was able to cut the string from their trial balloon of having a military that was loyal them and not to the country.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Whitworth</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/17/new-moveon-ad/#comment-974110</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Whitworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 20:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There’s something familiar about Rudy in that initial frame… contrast and compare.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.terrainvague.com/images/rudy_max.jpg&quot;&gt;http://www.terrainvague.com/images/rudy_max.jpg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There’s something familiar about Rudy in that initial frame… contrast and compare.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.terrainvague.com/images/rudy_max.jpg">http://www.terrainvague.com/images/rudy_max.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>By: J.T.</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/17/new-moveon-ad/#comment-974004</link>
		<dc:creator>J.T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 19:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;On Move On Hysteria, Britney and Chuck Hagel
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;   I remember that dreary fall of 2002 when Jim Lehrer would have Chuck Hagel and Richard Lugar and Joe Biden on about once a week to repeat again and again and again how the initial “defeat” of Iraq’s “forces” could be and probably would be accomplished quite easily.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The problem, they practically shouted (I recall the very mellow Dick Lugar just bristle with disdain at some assbite’s analysis from one of the neocon think-tanks) was Securing The Peace after our precision bombs had taken out the “valuable targets” they had.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It seems to me that the same “Americans” who are just so gosh darned fed up with this war while at the same time don’t seem to know and/or care about what exactly it is that we’ve wrought over there, ought to think about all their bluster and bullshit and preoccupation with some missing little girl in Utah (Elizabeth Smart-remember her?) or Michael Jackson holding his kid over a balcony or how smooth and powerful that handsome Donald Rumsfeld looked yesterday at one of his wonderful press conferences….&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Gotcha” America was and is constantly preoccupied with the latest scandal and you can always count on Larry King to do a roundtable discussion about what exactly went wrong with Lindsey Anna Nicole Paris Hasselhoff; televise the bickering of parents Alec Balwin and Kim Bassinger or spend a week with wall-to-wall coverage of a bathroom misdemeanor setup…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;GOTCHA! Britney is fat! GOTCHA!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I remember that there were many voices at that time, literally screaming about the dangers and pure folly of invading Iraq,  including Mohammed El Baradi, Hans Blix and Scott Ritter among others.&lt;br /&gt;
Chuck Hagel has always stuck in my mind because of his unwavering statements about the disaster this folly could produce.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But I can’t get the image out of my mind of Congressman John Conyers trying to hold hearings on the “Downing Street Memos” back in June of 2005, when the Republicans were still stifling all dissent, and being relegated to the basement of the Capitol. (Longworth?)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For the last six years, Democrats tried to hold this Bush Administration accountable for a myriad of transgressions only to be obstructed at every turn.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now the fickle American public, oblivious to the fact that we’ve probably killed a million Iraqis, just want to “get out of there” and scream at the Democrats to stop the war immediately. Those darned Democrats, that’s the problem; or the classic: “It’s both parties really” (Note: “No, it’s the Republicans who created and cheer lead this beastly effort- you don’t get to now, finally, start including the Dems in this mess)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Did you see the hissyfit that the Beltway mob threw about the Move On advertisement? Enough said.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sheesh….&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Chuck Hagel On &lt;a href=&quot;http://tinyurl.com/yreo9j&quot;&gt;Real Time With Bill Maher &lt;/a&gt;::September 14, 2007::&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>On Move On Hysteria, Britney and Chuck Hagel
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<p>   I remember that dreary fall of 2002 when Jim Lehrer would have Chuck Hagel and Richard Lugar and Joe Biden on about once a week to repeat again and again and again how the initial “defeat” of Iraq’s “forces” could be and probably would be accomplished quite easily.</p>
<p>The problem, they practically shouted (I recall the very mellow Dick Lugar just bristle with disdain at some assbite’s analysis from one of the neocon think-tanks) was Securing The Peace after our precision bombs had taken out the “valuable targets” they had.</p>
<p>It seems to me that the same “Americans” who are just so gosh darned fed up with this war while at the same time don’t seem to know and/or care about what exactly it is that we’ve wrought over there, ought to think about all their bluster and bullshit and preoccupation with some missing little girl in Utah (Elizabeth Smart-remember her?) or Michael Jackson holding his kid over a balcony or how smooth and powerful that handsome Donald Rumsfeld looked yesterday at one of his wonderful press conferences….</p>
<p>“Gotcha” America was and is constantly preoccupied with the latest scandal and you can always count on Larry King to do a roundtable discussion about what exactly went wrong with Lindsey Anna Nicole Paris Hasselhoff; televise the bickering of parents Alec Balwin and Kim Bassinger or spend a week with wall-to-wall coverage of a bathroom misdemeanor setup…</p>
<p>GOTCHA! Britney is fat! GOTCHA!</p>
<p>I remember that there were many voices at that time, literally screaming about the dangers and pure folly of invading Iraq,  including Mohammed El Baradi, Hans Blix and Scott Ritter among others.<br />
Chuck Hagel has always stuck in my mind because of his unwavering statements about the disaster this folly could produce.</p>
<p>But I can’t get the image out of my mind of Congressman John Conyers trying to hold hearings on the “Downing Street Memos” back in June of 2005, when the Republicans were still stifling all dissent, and being relegated to the basement of the Capitol. (Longworth?)</p>
<p>For the last six years, Democrats tried to hold this Bush Administration accountable for a myriad of transgressions only to be obstructed at every turn.</p>
<p>Now the fickle American public, oblivious to the fact that we’ve probably killed a million Iraqis, just want to “get out of there” and scream at the Democrats to stop the war immediately. Those darned Democrats, that’s the problem; or the classic: “It’s both parties really” (Note: “No, it’s the Republicans who created and cheer lead this beastly effort- you don’t get to now, finally, start including the Dems in this mess)</p>
<p>Did you see the hissyfit that the Beltway mob threw about the Move On advertisement? Enough said.</p>
<p>Sheesh….</p>
<p>Chuck Hagel On <a href="http://tinyurl.com/yreo9j">Real Time With Bill Maher </a>::September 14, 2007::</p>
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		<title>By: elmo</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/17/new-moveon-ad/#comment-973953</link>
		<dc:creator>elmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 18:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/9/15/1433958/Y&quot;&gt;Y’all Chickenhawks to Me - by Elmo (MP3)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(If you have trouble with the link right click and “save target as”)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/9/15/1433958/Y">Y’all Chickenhawks to Me &#8211; by Elmo (MP3)</a></p>
<p>(If you have trouble with the link right click and “save target as”)</p>
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		<title>By: newspaperbrat</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/17/new-moveon-ad/#comment-973952</link>
		<dc:creator>newspaperbrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 18:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-973850&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;paul spencer @ 74&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Hey - I love y’all.  Don’t know how I missed such a good group of happy warriors until now.  Some of the other blogs have been mostly pissing and moaning about the Betray-us ad for days.  Glad to see a group that: 1) makes concise comments and 2) can support a smart militant move when they see one.  Go MoveOn.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Welcome to FDL Paul Spencer! Spread the word far and wide the spirit of Tom Paine is alive and well at the pristine shores of da Lake 24/7.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-973850"><em>paul spencer @ 74</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Hey &#8211; I love y’all.  Don’t know how I missed such a good group of happy warriors until now.  Some of the other blogs have been mostly pissing and moaning about the Betray-us ad for days.  Glad to see a group that: 1) makes concise comments and 2) can support a smart militant move when they see one.  Go MoveOn.</p>
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<p>Welcome to FDL Paul Spencer! Spread the word far and wide the spirit of Tom Paine is alive and well at the pristine shores of da Lake 24/7.</p>
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		<title>By: wagonjak</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/17/new-moveon-ad/#comment-973941</link>
		<dc:creator>wagonjak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 18:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I thought this ad was strong in verbal content but very weak in the visual message to uphold those words….&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought this ad was strong in verbal content but very weak in the visual message to uphold those words….</p>
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		<title>By: Oklahoma kiddo</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/17/new-moveon-ad/#comment-973905</link>
		<dc:creator>Oklahoma kiddo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 18:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hillary has a plan.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Clinton offers universal health care plan&lt;br /&gt;
‘Individual mandate’ centerpiece requires all to have health insurance&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20819827/&quot;&gt;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20819827/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How Hillary Won Over the Health-Care Industry&lt;br /&gt;
She was persona non grata in the early 1990s, when the then-first lady’s dramatic health-care reform package went down. These days Hillary Clinton is winning raves among health-care-industry groups—and attracting their campaign dollars.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20822145/site/newsweek/site/newsweek/&quot;&gt;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20...../newsweek/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hillary has a plan.</p>
<p>Clinton offers universal health care plan<br />
‘Individual mandate’ centerpiece requires all to have health insurance</p>
<p><a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20819827/">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20819827/</a></p>
<p>How Hillary Won Over the Health-Care Industry<br />
She was persona non grata in the early 1990s, when the then-first lady’s dramatic health-care reform package went down. These days Hillary Clinton is winning raves among health-care-industry groups—and attracting their campaign dollars.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20822145/site/newsweek/site/newsweek/">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20&#8230;../newsweek/</a></p>
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