– Arch-fascist would-be media mogul, trustafarian and familiy values maven Richard Mellon Scaife’s second wife, with whom he cheated on his first, has now caught him cheating on her and is therefore now going to hose him down in what may be a record-breaking divorce settlement. (Hat tip to Avedon Carol at The Sideshow.) As Charles points out over at my home blog Mercury Rising (shameless bloghussying alert!), the IRS might be interested to know just how Mr. Scaife was using all that trust-fund money to prop up his bogus rag ($20 to $30 million per year since he founded it in 1992).
– Here’s Bilerico on the auspicious entry of Alan Keyes into the 2008 Republican presidential primaries. Would that Steve Gilliard were still around to blog this. If anything could bring Gilly back from the dead, it would be the chance to blog Keyes’ campaign.
– Speaking of Steve Gilliard, here’s an oldie-but-goodie from him on the odd habit righties have of posing as lefties and then saying really nasty garbage. Those of us who’ve hung out in the comments section at Eschaton know this phenomenon well.
– The Wege points out this bit of obscene Philistinism-laced jackbootery concerning the refusal of Bush’s Heimatsicherheithausamt to allow yet another world-renowed artist into the country: “Ms. Ghuman said that officers tore up her H-1B visa, which was valid through May 2008, defaced her British passport, and seemed suspicious of everything from her music cassettes to the fact that she had listed Welsh as a language she speaks. A redacted government report about the episode obtained by her lawyer under the Freedom of Information Act erroneously described her as ‘Hispanic’.” [...] “They told me I was nobody, I was nowhere and I had no rights,” she said. “For the first time, I understood what the deprivation of liberty means.”
– Here’s a little forgotten tidbit that is sure to irritate those who would have you burning incense to Bush’s sockpuppet Petraeus (or “BetrayUs” as he’s known to his men in Iraq) or any other general, simply because of the stars on his helmet:
In the early 1960s, America’s top military leaders reportedly drafted plans to kill innocent people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Cuba.
Code named Operation Northwoods, the plans reportedly included the possible assassination of Cuban émigrés, sinking boats of Cuban refugees on the high seas, hijacking planes, blowing up a U.S. ship, and even orchestrating violent terrorism in U.S. cities.
The plans were developed as ways to trick the American public and the international community into supporting a war to oust Cuba’s then new leader, communist Fidel Castro.
America’s top military brass even contemplated causing U.S. military casualties, writing: “We could blow up a U.S. ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba,” and, “casualty lists in U.S. newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national indignation.”
What stopped them from doing this? A horrified JFK told them to go pound salt instead.
So what neglected news has you in a tither (a tizzy and a dither combined) tonight?
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zennurse @ 1
namaste nurse
Here’s some news:
Baghdad, Sept 17, (VOI)- The media spokesman for the joint coordination center in Baghdad said on Monday that an investigation is now underway into the death of 11 Iraqi citizens at the hands of a private U.S. security company’s personnel in western Baghdad on Sunday.
PW, I love your posts.
Hey, they left out the exploding stogies!
JIT!
I missed out on most of the news today.
G’evening, good people.
Many Turkish investors are leaving northern Iraq in droves amid fears of a massive Turkish military operation into the Kurdish region to dislodge Turkish Kurdish rebels there….
I know I know {waving his hand like a good student} I’m really mad about Rick Noriega.
Hey, raven, I’m with you on Noriega. There is no excuse for taking a measly 10k from a dog like Perry with support from BA which raised ten times that in hours for Darcy Burner. There is no room in this election for this kind of stuff. Things may go that way in Texas, but they don’t sit well with me.
I don’t have to read.
Am among friends.
Fuck the fascists.
But most of all, get the young people to rebel.
zennurse @ 1
Aloha, and, Congrats Zen!!! 8-)
Hiya PW:
I just wrote a whole blog post about this story:
Blackwater guards
This is part of what I wrote:
This isn’t news, but it sure is funny.
h/t to watertiger
http://www.dependablerenegade……erudi.html
zennurse @ 10
Someone agrees with me, I better go to bed!
PW, is that rag you refer to, the “American Prospect”???
PW!!! Bam!!
Anything, and I mean anything is possible with these people, and it is not conspiracy theory. The difference between then and now lies in the players, JFK then, and GWB, now. One was horrified and stopped it, the other…well that is best left to the imagination and the evidence that no one wants to look at.
raven @ 9
Me too.
wangdangdoodle @ 7
Evening, Ma’am!
Elliott mentioned this in the last thread:
The United States of AT&T
emptywheel
Howdy Ms Doodley!!!
LS @ 18
A three-way. . .g’nite!
I’m watching Curb your Enthusiasm and Barbara Boxer is on it. She is good.
No definitions were found for Heimatsicherheithausamt.
I am almost afraid to ask. *s*
raven @ 22
Aah, so soon? Nite, Raven!!!
I’m curious to know what TV looks like today? Since we’re on the verge of war with Iran and there are very important issues being debated in Congress after the vacation, surely there is no mention of that. so it must be….OJ and the little girl night on MSNBC!
Am I right?
Eureka Springs @ 24
It’s a ham sandwich with everything on it.
Aloha CT, howdy Snarky!
Hugh @ 20
This will not get by Leahey and Waxman.
LS @ 18
When you look at the capitol building, you don’t see republicans and democrats.
You see a huge building.
Impregnable
Immune to public opinion.
CTuttle @ 25
back at 5:30 am, some of these doofuses will still be here!
Hugh @ 20
I didn’t use the permalink, sorry
use this
I don’t know how she puts out so much so fast
Whoa, I totally missed out on the Noriega news! What’d he do? Anyone have a linkie?
Monday Night Football provides a nice distraction from the horrors of the Federal Reserve System.
CTuttle @ 12
Thanks, CT, it always happens to me by accident. I never try.
Oh shizlespit! Jane already wrote about that today. I guess it is not neglected. Sorry!
wangdangdoodle @ 33
AUSTIN — A Democratic state lawmaker who touts his military service in Afghanistan as a qualification in his campaign for a U.S. Senate seat next year has accepted nearly $10,000 from the Houston businessman who donated millions for the so-called Swift Boat ads that helped torpedo John Kerry’s presidential campaign in 2004, reports filed with the state ethics commission show.
raven @ 31
Prolly…!!! *g*
zennurse @ 35
Shoot, that’s the trick…!!! ;-)
We had dark clouds and bad traffic today in KC . . . not weather related, but politics:
I guess a visit from Dick Cheney doesn’t carry the cachet it used to, even in GOP circles.
And I’ll bet Kay Barnes just loves being able to tie Graves closer and closer to Bush’s War. “C’mon back again, Dick — we’d love to see you campaign with Sam some more!”
Jonathan @ 11
So you’re in favor of Re-instituting the Draft?
Eureka Springs @ 24
It’s German for “Department of Homeland Security”
I get mighty upset when Democratic candidates take money from those that I think they shouldn’t.
How Hillary Won Over the Health-Care Industry
She was persona non grata in the early 1990s, when the then-first lady’s dramatic health-care reform package went down. These days Hillary Clinton is winning raves among health-care-industry groups—and attracting their campaign dollars.
raven @ 37
Holy sh*t! That doesn’t sound like something he can explain away by coming by for a chat.
Ann in AZ @ 41
Yes.
SnarKassandra @ 27
And you can only pronounce it correctly if the entire sandwich is in your mouth?
wangdangdoodle @ 44
I got something for him to chat, I should have known, he’s a Major.
raven @ 47
wangdangdoodle @ 44
According to TPJ, Perry contributed $4.1 million to 146 state candidates in Texas and another $2.6 million to 17 state PACs that back multiple candidates. Most of his contributions in contested races went to Republicans, but he also gave to Democratic legislative incumbents who were assured of reelection.
http://blogs.chron.com/texaspo…..errys.html
I just went over to the Spook in the Machine http://spookinthemachine.blogspot.com/and found that he has written about what happens when you look at a map: you find out you can pipe oil from the Kurdish oilfields through Jordan to Israel and its port, Haifa. And that there’s a pipeline already there that hasn’t been used end-to-end for 55 years but that would make a certain sense to resuscitate, especially in the light of Bush’s address, Hunt’s deal with the Kurds, and other stuff.
While there I followed one of his links to this intriguing site with lots of good, cynical, informed essays http://archives.econ.utah.edu/archives/a-list. Avowedly Marxist, it claims, but don’t let that put you off.
The A-list article he cites is from 2003; however, the batteries in the flashlight seem still to work: it provides light.
wangdangdoodle!
this is for you
Everybody’s Everything!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIR139bgTQk
I only have a minute tonight, but I will share that I have made an investment for the impending fight for our country and constitution from my seaside home here in the Blue State of MA. I bought one of those 4 function things that prints, copies, scans and faxes. I have, since coming to FDL a long time ago, been writing emails routinely, but I always feel they are easily ignored. That may just be my perception. I like the concreteness of a fax and the notion that someone has to handle it and deal with it when it arrives. It also allows me to fax anyone in congress without worrying about using a false address. I worry about the paper involved (I even recycle the plastic thingy’s that attach tags to new clothes), but feel it is the price to pay for demanding my country back.
Thanks for listening.
pace
Where is that legislation that Senator Webb wanted the chickenshit Democrats to sign that would have required the Bush administration to come back through congress before starting another immoral and unnecessary war?
Call your Reps and demand that they pass legislation that requires the Bush administration be required to come back before they do anything else insane.
And then there’s Noriega. I didn’t think he was an incumbent who was assured of reelection.
Cozumel @ 49
Right, and then bonehead Dems who accepted the money are conveniently targeted by Rove as having accepted Swift Boat money, which pisses off their supporters. You can’t be a bonehead in the first place. If you have any political savvy and have been conscious for the past 6/12 years, you would realize the trap. D’oh.
Cozumel @ 49
So here’s an interesting challenge for Rick: Give back the $10K and raise it back on Act Blue based on the good PR that brings.
zennurse @ 52
Peace.
Just think. If we had public financing of elections we might not be having this discussion. And a side car issue; we might have real, non-rich candidates for public office who worry more about the issues than raising funds. Just imagine
Ann in AZ @ 41
As long as there aren’t too many loop holes, Medical service would be an appropriate out like in Deutchland, college wouldn’t be sufficient, kinda like the LDS who attend BYU…!!! Mandatory service!!!
Cozumel @ 49
Oh yea, John O’Neill, founder of SVFT is from Huston.
Elliott @ 51
Double-Plus Good, Ell!
Did Fox censor Sally Field for saying “God damned” or for saying “If the mothers ruled the world there would be no Goddamned wars in the first place!”
Watch Sally Field Uncensored
Cozumel @ 49
Can you spell Power Broker?
Noriega doesn’t need this, if he doesn’t want to be looking over his shoulder once he’s elected. The story at Sean Paul’s is disturbing (didn’t save the link, who linked that?) about someone asking him about it and his response coming from some passive-aggressive, nasty place.. Not good at all.
More on topic, I’ve been listening to Legacy of Ashes lately and it is scary 1) how out of control the CIA has been and 2) how many of they players back then are still around and active. It makes those with tinfoil hats look a bit more reasonable.
Anna Parenna @ 62
Why is this an either/or question? At Fox, this was a twofer.
Watch this tape of Tom Friedman almost licking his lips talking about the war and intimidation. If you have wondered whether Tom Friedman is a member of the warmongering sicko club. think again
Watch this
http://www.crooksandliars.com/…..this-iraq/
Show the Iraqi refugees this tape and then drop Friedman butt ass naked down in the middle of a crowd of refugees and let them deal with this psychopath.
May the 2nd Mrs. Scaife get her fair share (and then some) and spend it all on handbags and holidays instead of fascist propaganda.
have any of y’all seen this:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/9/17/192329/363
http://www.starbanner.com/arti…..AKING_NEWS
it’s video of a student asking questions of John Kerry at a townhall in Florida today…he gets loud, to be sure, but is DRAGGED AWAY AND TAZED AS THE AUDIENCE WATCHES AND SMILES.
jesus. WTF.
Oh my doG. The picture at your Gilliard link above is one for the ages!
Damn, I sure miss him and Molly Ivins. At least we have their work at our fingertips still.
Evening everyone! My overlooked news is more local, but still a major screw-over for a lot of people. It seems the IRS has decided that some of the grants given after Hurricane Katrina will now be taxed as income. I am link-impared, but you can check the nola.com site for the Times Picayune story from today’s paper. Evidently if you took a casualty loss on taxes in 2005 or 2006 and then got a grant it can be taxed as income. As an extra stab with a twist, this can put some people in a higher bracket, meaning ALL income is taxed at the higher rate. Needless to say there is a major uproar here, and our congresscritters have said they will try to fix this in D.C. but the chances for that are slim and none. So, we pay taxes for crappy levees that break and flood everything, then the Road Home program and insurance companies do their damndest to screw you over, and then the IRS mvoes in to pick your bones. Katrina fatigue has made this latest slap a non-story nationally, but some pups have asked before to update periodically how things are here, so this is the latest hurdle to jump.
zennurse @ 63
A fence post can beat Cornyn. Maybe he needs the hook
Tom Friedman must be smart.
He must know a lot of things.
No real opinion on friend Noriega, but — this regarding the blogger blooper he made — I have a hard time putting myself in the position of someone who can walk into an auditorium, get handed a speech, and read it without engaging any circuits that monitor what is coming out of his mouth — even if he had had a late night. Either something is missing from his makeup, or he is entirely too willing to allow himself to be manipulated (does that just make him a normal politician?), or — I don’t know — some other explanation.
Has anyone run for office in this society and then described the experience with great self-awareness? What happens even to good people?
Anna Parenna @ 62
Ed Schultz said this morning that G-d damned is not a FCC no-no.
madmommy @ 70
WTF!?
(((madmommy)))
annagranfors @ 68
what the hell was that about? Kerry even said let me answer him… what did he do? ask a question?
Jonathan – left you a reply @ 234 downstairs.
It ain’t old- just read it- but i gotta tell you- booman and rude pundit ripping Move On ad! Unfucking believable. Staggering! Ya gotta read this. jist is- Come on Move on- you’ve grown up. You Arre Mainstream not and the ad was too bloggerish. I am staggered.
I just gotta keep asking- What the hell did Move On say in that ad that isn’t TRUE!
kathleen: I don’t know. I’m shaken to the core by this. what kills me is that Kerry didn’t try to stop it, to intervene.
mods-
possible clean-up needed in last thread at 233 and then at 240 when it was quoted…….up to you……..
Here is the Tom (psychopath) Friedman tape
http://www.crooksandliars.com/…..this-iraq/
Read more about Noriega here. The money quote:
Sounds like a real gem.
GordonM @ 77
Checked it out.
Agree.
Sleep tight tonight.
http://video.msn.com/v/us/msnb…..ce_Nightly News&t=m5&rf=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/&fg=
For those who dismiss out of hand any talk of possible “LIHOP” or worse concerning 9/11, I suggest reading up on Operation Northwoods.
There’s a good summary at Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods — and many of the original documents are posted online. Many conspirists have added new layers of foil to the basic info… but just looking at the original report is enough to drive anyone in the direction of tinhattiness.
Among the very serious suggestions that were offered for sparking a war with Cuba were these (quoted from the wiki):
There was apparently also serious talk about actually destroying a U.S. passenger airliner and blaming the death and destruction on the Castro regime.
Next time you hear, or say to yourself, “No! They would never do that!”… be aware that “they” would, at the least, think about it.
No, I don’t believe 9/11 was an inside job. But that’s not the same as declaring that kind of American Reichstag fire unthinkable. It’s already been thought, and at the highest level of the military.
billjpa @ 78
According to this LA Times posting, the University of California, Irvine has retracted its retraction of its hiring of Erwin Chemerinsky to be the founding dean of its new law school:
Chancellor Drake temporarily succumbed to pressure from external forces:
In fact, UC chancellors do not succumb to pressure from supreme court justices and/or county supervisors. The head of UC’s board of regents Richard Blum, Diane Feinstein’s husband, was in the Middle East and unavailable for comment,
annagranfors @ 79
John Kerry is a gutless schmuck. He said he’d answer the questions, then let the cops run amok.
Silent assent?
Regarding John Kerry: I was astounded to hear him easily pronounce that there will be a need for troops in Iraq indefinitely on one of the Sunday talk shows, I don’t remember which, but it totally made me feel “had” – the same “had” that the person who asked the question about why he didn’t fight back after the election results were in, and that question got him tasared.
What the heck is going on with these people?
Elliott @ 75
How many hearts have to break over this bs? I have thought for a long time that my brother and sister should leave NOLA. They are in their 50’s. Too old to stay and hope.
I’m going to walk Wally The Best Dog Ever. Have to or I might split a gut. Or spit some nails.
Elliott @ 75
I am no accountant, but it seems the IRS has decided if a loss was claimed on 2005 taxes and then the taxpayer later gets a Road Home grant then the grant is a duplication of the 2005 tax break and so becomes taxable income. The IRS only decided last year that the grants would be taxable. It seems to me that the rules were changed in the middle of the game.
Jonathan @ 83
Cool. Very, very cool.
Cliff Varnell: no argument, but you’d think that even a gutless schmuck would step in and tell em to f***ing stop.
apologies for 86
preview is my friend.
gerp
Kathleen @ 76
It’s like the Rev, Yearwood (?) situation all over again. Somebody in law enforcement has put out the word that it’s open season on questioners, and that if they try to leave the scene it is justifiable to use potentially deadly force (6 big guys on top of you; electric shock).
woid @ 85
No, I don’t believe 9/11 was an inside job.
With all due respect — Why not?
Bush’s sheik was whacked
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article18
412.htm
Wiping out Iraqi history (part of the Plan for the Clean Break..Securing the Realm)
http://www.informationclearing…..e18408.htm
Special investigation by Robert Fisk
09/17/07 “The Independent” — – 2,000-year-old Sumerian cities torn apart and plundered by robbers. The very walls of the mighty Ur of the Chaldees cracking under the strain of massive troop movements, the privatisation of looting as landlords buy up the remaining sites of ancient Mesopotamia to strip them of their artefacts and wealth. The near total destruction of Iraq’s historic past – the very cradle of human civilisation – has emerged as one of the most shameful symbols of our disastrous occupation.
Evidence amassed by archaeologists shows that even those Iraqis who trained as archaeological workers in Saddam Hussein’s regime are now using their knowledge to join the looters in digging through the ancient cities, destroying thousands of priceless jars, bottles and other artefacts in their search for gold and other treasures.
In the aftermath of the 1991 Gulf War, armies of looters moved in on the desert cities of southern Iraq and at least 13 Iraqi museums were plundered. Today, almost every archaeological site in southern Iraq is under the control of looters.
In a long and devastating appraisal to be published in December, Lebanese archaeologist Joanne Farchakh says that armies of looters have not spared “one metre of these Sumerian capitals that have been buried under the sand for thousands of years.
SnarKassandra @ 13
Do you have any aspirations to run for public office at some point? You sure could knock some sense into Texas and help put it back on the right track.
Operation Northwoods is not forgotten among those who have researched false flag terror.
It’s kind of X-Files stuff, but along with Operation Gladio in Europe, sadly real.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio
Along with the Lavon Affair
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair
and the Liberty incident
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident
there is quite a track record of states using false flag terror and attempting to blame designated enemies with it.
now, to tentatively venture beyond the threshold of permissible thought, there are some issues around 9/11 that make some people dare to think that the Official Story, as told by the reknowned truth-tellers of the Cheney regime, may actually be a cover up of just such state terror.
comparable to the Reichstag fire, even.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_fire
Cliff Varnell @ 96
Heh. Beat me to it. That ‘Northwoods’ info makes it seem that there’s something out there in the weeds quacking.
annagranfors @ 93
Haven seen countless rock singers stand on the stage and yell at security to quit beating the shit out of someone — I don’t see where it takes that much for a guy in that spot to urge restraint.
What — were they going to taser Kerry?
Gordon M.
Thanks. But I’m not cool.
Just an old guy who’s pissed.
Cliff Varnell @ 96
I say, keep an open mind. We do not know all the facts, until we do, stay open and leave no stone unturned. Knowing what we know now, we have to keep our eyes open and dare to look at everything. There is only one truth. I don’t know what it is, but I don’t feel comfortable with anything the lying bastids have been telling us.
PW– Thanks so much for bringing the NYT article about Professor Nalini Ghuman to our attention; I had missed it. This is absolutely outrageous, and my heart ges out to her, her fiance and her students.
on the ridiculous side, quite literaly, amidst the shit.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..-bathroom/
Petraeus (or “BetrayUs” as he’s known to his men in Iraq)
Sorry if this has already been addressed, I didn’t read all the comments. I had heard that it was the troops that called Petraeus “BetrayUs”. Does someone have a link to direct me somewhere I can find this out for sure? I told this to a friend and they wanted more information on that and I haven’t been able to find anything.
sporkovat @ 99
The JFK assassination was very likely a failed false flag attack designed to create a pre-text to invade Cuba.
http://www.larry-hancock.com/
Kathleen @ 66
Goes to C&L, but page not found. Got anything saved, Kathleen?
Cliff Varnell @ 101
I really am getting to the point that I dislike Kerry. I thought he was a fool and a loser after the election, but have decided he’s just too above the fray to get involved. So patrician.
ADM @ 106
name.
rank.
serial number.
???
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/091707B.shtml
EA Chief Warns Against Striking Iran
The Associated Press
Monday 17 September 2007
Vienna, Austria – Invoking the war in Iraq, the chief U.N. nuclear inspector criticized talk of attacking Iran as “hype” on Monday, saying the use of force should only be considered as a last resort and only if authorized by the U.N. Security Council.
“I would not talk about any use of force,” said Mohamed ElBaradei, the head of the International Atomic Energy Agency, in an indirect response to French warnings that the world had to be prepared for the possibility of war in the event that Iran obtains atomic weapons.
Saying only the U.N. Security Council could authorize the use of force, ElBaradei urged the world to remember Iraq before considering any similar action against Iran.
“There are rules on how to use force, and I would hope that everybody would have gotten the lesson after the Iraq situation, where 700,000 innocent civilians have lost their lives on the suspicion that a country has nuclear weapons,” he told reporters.
Is anyone listening?
Kathleen @ 111
Nah. Fearless Leader is taking a nap.
GordonM @ 82
Sounds like a real gem.
Has Noreiga been asleep these past few years? I am sure Kerry would be really happy with him.
Twain @ 109
Say what you will about HRC but she knows how to hit back, and HARD! Unlike Kerry
Just FYI, I came across this the other day, it was posted in January. It refers to betray us.:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6G5EZlSnJnU
ADM @ 106
good. I was starting to think I hallucinated it, but yah, around the time we first heard about MoveOn’s plans to run the ad, I remember somewhere seeing something to the effect that some fellow soldiers called him “BetrayUs”, too. I haven’t searched hard, but couldn’t find it either, since, and it seems no one else has brought it up.
madmommy @ 70
madmommy, this is just plain wrong. If this situation continues, it must be front page news all across the country. Nobody wants the people of New Orleans to have any more roadblocks put in front of them…this will not go.
may @ 86
Probably (like having Matt Bai at YearlyKos) they’re starstruck that someone is acknowledging their power, so they figure they’d better act “grown up” now.
Well, I was looking for Rickie Lee Jones doing “I don’t wanna grow up”, but I found this instead which is awesome song and performance and says almost the same thing.
Those that come seeking help, need to speak the truth.
lahoma
Loo Hoo. @ 117
Ummm…my bold…yeah, they do. The developers and racists and classists in NOLA do not want the former population to return. It really is that heinous.
raven @ 15
I’m from Texas & they don’t go that way with me either! As a veteran, denigration of another’s service is simply taboo. Period. Bob Perry is also a Class A Gaper, but that is an entire standalone post. The blogger incident was an incredible misstep, this incident indicates a general cluelessness that really concerns me.
fwiw, I have known a hell of a lot of O-6’s & I don’t necessarily consider it to be a recommendation.
LS @ 103
Exactly!
Loo hoo you can go back to 81 to watch Friedman tape. I can’t find it again at Crooks and liars it seems to be gone.
Hillary Clinton has taken money from Rupert Murdoch, who owns FOX and other organs corrosive to our democracy. Will we also turn our backs on her, should she be our nominee?
If our nominees need to be pure as the driven snow, and the money they accept completely and only progressive money, we will not win elections.
My comment earlier regarding Noriega:
TeddySanFran @ 98
Slow tonight on FDL.
Great early autumn – late summer here in New England.
Read “Peyton Place.”
annagranfors @ 116
Someone linked to a times online (uk) article on a thread this morning.
Is Heimatsicherheithausamt what Bablefish coughed up for Department of Homeland Security ? Try Heimatschutzministerium … or if you want to be *really* mean, Ministerium fuer Staatssicherheit.
Depends of whether you wish to connect the Bush junta to the Nazis or to the East Germans … i’ve been told there’s more resemblance to Stalinism than to the NSDAP, so take your pick.
“Alluding to Western criticism that he was being too soft on Iran, ElBaradei said: If “in time of hype telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act … I will continue to be a revolutionary.”
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/091707B.shtml
CALL OR EMAIL YOUR REPS LISTEN TO IAEA’S EL BARADEI IN REGARD TO IRAN NOT TO THE “CAKEWALK” ZEALOTS.
Quick!
Somebody give Mrs. Scaife a frying pan–A very, very large, heavy frying pan.
If it has jagged metal edges, so much the better.
If it is coated with curare, that would help also.
Get it to her, quick!
“People like Bob Perry support candidates all over the ideological map, for access and influence. Perry’s support of Noriega is a good sign — he’s not putting all his eggs in the Cornyn basket.”
“His eggs”? Fuck ‘his eggs’
Bye Bye Firewall
No more Times Select. Good news, even if it increases odds of accidental exposure to a David Brooks column.
TeddySanFran @ 124
Teddy:
So where do you draw the line? When does one become so odious that you should return any money you might get from that person?
Cliff Varnell @ 122
I don’t believe it was an inside job, but I do believe some folks may have known it was coming and did nothing to stop it
Watch all four parts of this report that Fox was pressured to take off their website on foreign spying
http://www.informationclearing…..le7545.htm
petwrecker @ 131
I can’t believe Atrios didn’t take another pot shot at little Tommy “F.U.” Friedman too. Friedman deserves any and all pot shots.
nikto @ 129
metaphorically speaking, right — nikto?
Cliff Varnell @ 96
At least some of the argument that 9/11 was an inside job is that the US military is just too good to let some whack-jobs armed with box cutters do that much damage. That argument is wrong, wrong, wrong.
Most of defense spending in the last 40 years has been boondoggle. It’s just making defense contractors rich, producing toys that don’t work or can’t be used or only work in situations we’ll never see again. And part of being so honking great means that you only look at the competition (in 2001, that would China, and only China).
I’ll agree the evidence is pretty damn fishy. But if the above is part of your argument, forget it. Hubris is older than history.
pw says at the top-”So what neglected news has you in a tither (a tizzy and a dither combined) tonight?”
that the prince family/blackwater helped james dobson fund focus on the family…….i thought it would be all over the news……..every time they’re in the news, this isn’t mentioned……..i thought this would be irresistable…….aaaaahhhhhhhh, welllllllllllllll…………
If money is returned, I support returning it right after the election in which the progressive candidate spent it to win.
Here are two links posted this morning about the origin of “Betrayus”
http://www.groupnewsblog.net/2…..right.html
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/t…..284289.ece
kirk murphy @ 138
Ten Grand isn’t squat in a Senate race. Throw it back
Loo Hoo. @ 117
Sweetie, it wasn’t even the first story on the local evening news. Scandal fatigue and the noise machine has done a wonderful job marginalizing the whole sordid affair.
Autumn is like a woman, warm, soft and beautiful.
Cool, warm, and inviting.
Wish I could write like Grace Metalious.
Joe Klein’s conscience @ 134
Yep, Tom’s probably profitting off the war, too!
Money, money, money.
Here are the links to a four part series that Fox was pressure to take off their website about spying and communication companies that have access to all phone records in the U.S.
Worth watching and listening to all four
spying on the
U.S.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWpWc_suPWo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..mp;search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW-LWadsPx0
Israeli citizens (allegedly spying) on the U.S.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..mp;search=
I am f’ing freaking out!!! The student getting tasared at the Kerry thing is atrocious!!! I am so furious, I can’t stand it. He did nothing. They attacked the student who was calling him out and then tasared him. He was screaming help, help…all you can hear is Kerry speaking in the background…all smoothe and nonchalant. I am unbelievably stunned and furious. We have to take this up. First, paster-posters in DC get leg-shackled, then Reverend Yearwood gets tackled and injured outside of the Petraeus hearing, now a young man speaking truth….gets tasared! WTF.
I am furious. We have to do something.
THe big deal with Bob Perry is that he has ripped off home buyers here in Texas for years and bought lawmakers to prevent people from recovering what they should.
MadMommy, how come the Tide is ranked ahead of Hawaii in one poll and behind in the other??? ;-)
yellowsnapdragon @ 139
Thanks!
Well, PW, since you ask about what news has me interested, last night I was looking at “The ‘proxy war’: UK troops are sent to Iranian border“. The article warns grimly that
That border was heavily mined during the Iran/Iraq war, but is also has been traditionally crossed by nomadic Arab sheepherders who pay no attention to roads.
The article continues,
Color me skeptical about the “we know the points of entry” bit. Yes, they probably do know the points they’d have to use if they were rolling heavy mechanized vehicles around, but as for human and small arms crossing, that would be about like the Texas National Guard claiming that “We know the undocumented immigrants border-crossing points” along the Rio Grande.
A decent map of the southern end of the area shows about 8 old roads criscrossing the border in the area between and just north of Basra and Khorramshahr (Iranian side). Of course, this is an old map dating before the Iran/Iraq war.
It looks like a situation likely to provide just the kind of excuse that Cheney wants to start a new war. Besides, note (on the map cited above) the oil pipelines that converge at Abadan, the Iranian city a few miles downriver from Khorramshahr.
The article mentions
Maysan is an Iraqi province north of Basra that has no familiar place names to most Americans, although a well-informed person might recognize the name of Al ‘Amarah.
I happen to know about one of the areas on the Iranian side of the border adjacent to Maysan, at Deh Loran. The area where I did field work several times was about 100 km east of Maysan (near Dezful). There are dozens of roads that used to cross that border, although as I wrote above, the border was heavily mined during the Iran/Iraq war.
In my browsing I also was reminded that Maysan is home to the Marsh Arabs, that were part of the revolt against Saddam in Gulf War I. This so enraged Saddam that he drained the Marshes, in order to destroy the people and their way of life. He pretty much succeeded, but after the U.S. invasion, the marshes were restored, somewhat, and the Marsh Arabs started drifting back into the swamps (unless they had made a better life for themselves elsewhere.) The Marsh Arabs have always resisted governance by any outsiders, and the U.S. is no exception.
Also in the same province of Maysan, I discovered that several super oil fields have been discovered, and a pipeline carries their oil south to Basra.
I doubt that the U.S. has as much control over the border as this article implies. but like the U.S. Southwest, most of the border runs through deserts. On the Iranian side, especially in the southern area from Abadan up to Ahwaz, the population is mostly Arabic. However, further north, near DehLoran, the population is more tribal Iranian (Luri).
If Cheney needs an excuse to start another war, and if the national program to make nukes is not sufficient, this is the area where he is most likely to find some provocation that he needs to start another war.
Bob in HI
Nitpicking:
I’ve always heard the expression as “Go pound sand”…
petwrecker @ 143
tom deserves to be tried at the Hague along with the others who lied, and pushed for this illegal and immoral war.
They did not directly kill anyone, but they sure created the atmosphere for millions to be killed.
Two items that cheesed me off today:
1)Ellen Ratner, of talk radio news service, was lamenting that the window of opportunity was closing for Hillary to have her “sistah souljah moment” vis a vis the Move-on thing.
2)Wesley Clark came out for Hillary and war with Iran.
Look candidates. Find about who it is that’s offering you money. If it’s not from a clean source and it’s money offered to buy something, don’t take it. Use you head. It’s called common sense and honesty.
good news
Ausra
california based,formed to take
Compact Linear Fresnel Reflector technology to large scale commercial deployment in the US and worldwide.
i’m amazed at how little attention is given to energy.
oil is yesterdays tech and nuclear has been on a promise for half a century.
(power to cheap to meter?
tell me about it!)
David Mills of Ausra will present a paper in China this week,outlining how solar power plants can generate 90% of the energy needs of the US.
We’re going to watch a movie. Good night.
Bob, the Maysan were none too pleased with Pappy’s betrayal of them when the arose and were squashed, while US air support could have stopped Saddam’s revenge!!!
kirk murphy @ 138
Which means that Noriega would get to keep $7,000 of Perry’s money until this cycle ends.
For me, it’s black and white: convicted of a felony, you get your money back. Other money is not so odious that I wouldn’t keep it or take it. I might think twice about contributing to a candidate who took odious money — which our debate here is about — but I don’t think my pittance or my support entitles me to demand that money be returned by anyone.
Unfortunately, Chris Carney has taught me that candidates don’t return money already donated if it’s inconvenient for them to do so.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 157
Nite, Kiddo and Lahoma! …or vice-versa…!!! 8-)
85 woid says:
Yeah, rmemeber the Maine!
Exactly what happened is still a mystery I think. Either these early 60s Strangloves couldn’t be original, or there was some very black and tasteless humor there.
The below is just plain weird:
Greenspan Embarrassment Tour
09.17.07 — 9:51PMBy Josh Marshall
Yep, I was wondering the same thing. Alan Greenspan’s claim that Saddam was going to gain control of the Strait of Hormuz breaks down about 30 seconds after you look at a map. Why is no one else pointing this out?
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/053397.php
———————-
Iraq was going to take over the straghts of Hormuz!?
I thought it must have been a joke at first. I guess Mr. Greenspan might be a superb financial technician, but he is no John Maynard Keynes, in terms of worldly common sense. Glad to know this is the kind of Very Serious hush-hush important-to-protect advising that our Dear Leader is trying to hide with claims of executive privilege for everything.
Maybe there is some aid who can read maps and books and whatnot who is insisting that they not release all this confidential advice because it is so loony and embarrassing, as much illegal and unconstitutional.
Next time a guy who doesn’t seem to know much, and doesn’t seem to want to know much, runs for president (all the GOP frontrunners this time!), rememeber Mr. Greenspan’s advice about the Iraqi threat to international sea lanes. In a normal administration this would ba foible of a tecnocrat getting out of his line of expertise. But here, Greenspan was surrounded by nutcases and conmen. I hate to think it, but the Iraqi threat to sea freight might have been considered and important factor
in the invasion with this crew.
Or, they are all just going nuts in front of our eyes. But I am sure there will be a Very Serious discussion of this important heretofore unmentioned threat by Very Serious pundits.
Jonathan @ 102
Dude, you’re a few years older than me. My number was close to 200, so I never had to deal with it on anything like the level you did. But it has shaped my life in very profound ways. I’m still angry, and I think I always will be. (I have, um, enlightened quite a number of Gen-Xers about what the 60s were really like.)
I’m not sure how to explain why I see now as different from then, except that now it’s not just one age group. It is, or soon will be, most people.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 119
So true, Lahoma. This is not an age whereby people can bullshit and get away with it. Got your camera handy?!
LS @ 146
I heard about it two hours ago, and have posted/mailed it everywhere, but for some reason it’s just kinda sitting there.
there was a poll at Daily Friggin’ Kos at which 10 people said the action was appropriate.
I think I’m finally going mad, or something.
David Olsen @ 154
Clark is supporting war with Iran? WTF?? Aren’t we deep enough in the sh*t???
Twain @ 109
Let’s not forget that Kerry (though unquestionably the better person) didn’t do any better at Yale than guess who.
CTuttle @ 149
They’re ranked?!?! I thought all those west coastie sports people were biased for pac-10 teams. AP or coaches poll?
yellowsnapdragon @ 139
Sadly neither of those links took me to anything that was difinitive that this nickname came from soldiers. The first seemed to explain how it could happen but nothing from anyone who was actually there in Iraq saying “yes, we called him that.” The second took me to an article that was very pro Petraeus. Nothing about fellow soldiers calling him “BetrayUs”.
So I’m still looking. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
madmommy @ 167
AP-16th,Tide; 19th,Warriors… USA Today-18th,Warriors; 20th,Bama!!!
GordonM @ 166
I don’t want to have a beer with either one of them. Disgusting.
CTuttle @ 169
Just looked it up-Tennessee and Arkansas out of the top 25…heh,heh,heh.
Sometimes I think they just throw darts at a list, there’s no rhyme or reason.
dmac @ 137
Link, dmac. I am fascinated/enraged by this whole Blackwater enterprise.
here’s the letter i sent to noriega…….it’s in my first-draft form……
sent it off in a hurry today before polishing it off without thinking…. ……crap…………right after i hit send, i said, oh no, oh no, i forgot to clean it up…….duh……..
but it got bumped back cuz of an incorrect email, and i have a call in to get the right one……so, i’ll clean it up, erase all of the ……’s and capitalize and all and edit a few things to polish it before i mail it tomorrow…….
========================================
word is out that you are taking swift-boat money……….is it more than you would have gained from faithful supporters from the progressive democrats and others on firedoglake.com and blue america? heck, forget about the progressive part, how many democrats do you think will agree with your decision? dare you to name one who is well-informed and not involved in your campaign who is paid to give you an opinion.
http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..ent-974246
here’s the article that was posted.
http://www.star-telegram.com/s…..33516.html
i think you are making a HUGE MISTAKE.
who should be elected for public office? someone with principles, it’s about principles……….i thought you understood that……..at least you claimed to understand and believe in that.
i can’t believe why you don’t understand why it is soooooooooo wrong to take money from this man.
you are supposed to be a principled man, yet you have already made a huge blunder putting down people who support you, now, you are accepting money from one of the men who cost the democrats the presidency…….another blunder, a bigger one than the first…….ever heard of the phrase cutting off your nose to spite your face?
i don’t get it…….maybe you need some new advisors………i would seriously think about that, blunder after blunder is not going to help fundraising, it will kill it, and in case you haven’t heard, supporters with money are giving it to other candidates as we speak, that’s what i’ve been hearing anyway……. and these blunders are certainly not going to get you elected.
you’d better do some critical thinking before you are out of the running. it may be too late after reading the quote from your campaign from the article, a lot of people will not forgive this one……sorry, but they won’t……
my screen name at firedoglake.com is dmac and although on a limited budget, i gave to your campaign, and encouraged others to do the same……..and was planning on giving more, now, maybe not.
sincerely,
Cliff Varnell @ 107
The JFK assassination was Texas oilmen/politicos/fascists led by George H W Bush and the Hunts deciding that the power in the US was shifting from the Northeast liberals to the Southern right-wing Edwin Walker John Birch extreme anti-communist military-industrial bastards.
I’m done with politics and talking.
It’s been fun, folks.
And for all the assholes who wanna say OK nutjob run along, we have a country to take back….FUCK OFF!!!
Keep talking, keep bemoaning the Democrats, and kiss America goodbye.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 144
Somebody ought to write a song…
Twain @ 170
When, exactly, did the criteria of wanting to have a beer with someone was a good way to choose a president? I’m not jumping on you, Twain, I just think it is utterly stupid, and completely ignorant. Why can’t the president be the smartest person in the room, and too damn busy doing important things to hang out with me and have a beer?
Twain @ 170
I wouldn’t mind it, as long as it’s Blatts they’re drinking…! I wouldn’t want to waste perfectly good beer!!! ;-)
LS @ 146
What ar4e you watching?
james, don’t go…we need you here.
madmommy @ 176
My criteria is this, pretty simple really. I want a President that’s smarter than I am.
Are we there yet? No ; )
madmommy @ 176
When I heard during the first campaign that some people thought Bush was just the kinda guy you’d like to have a beer with, I decided that at least half the country had gone mad – and I was right.
Hello, everyone! Sorry about not being around earlier. The bloghussy was unavoidably detained. :0)
Loo Hoo. @ 178
LooHoo-the link is at post 95.
annagranfors @ 164
Mr. LS and I just emailed and left calls to Kerry. We are absolutely furious. Now reports are that the student “got loud” and resisted arrest. That is clearly not what happened. You can watch the video. Kerry did nothing. How sickening. I’m so done with Dems and Repubs and everybody else at this point. This is f’ing insane.
james @ 174
All I’d add to that is the connection between George H. W. Bush and “Northeast liberal” (gag!) W. Averell Harriman and his brother Bunny.
http://www.tarpley.net/bush8.htm
Twain @ 181
And now the bar has been set so low, just look at the GOP lineup. Sad.
Please check out this link to an article and video of a student at Florida exercising his constitutional RIGHT to FREE SPEECH and Expression and right to assemble…it is appalling to see the level of apathy that he experiences while calling out for help from the “authorities” that use a taser on him.
Andrew Meyer
It sickens me to watch this boy be abused in public and no one seems to care…
LoudounLib @ 179
Ditto!!! Talk is cheap, but, we here at the Lake do take action and actively participate in the process, I also agree that it’s torches and pitchfork time!!! 8-)
madmommy @ 183
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/9/17/192329/363
Watch the officer standing behind the student as he’s speaking at the mike…he reaches into his pocket and takes out the tasar. A**hole?
Big A** lawsuit.
madmommy @ 176
That was invented by the same Washington media clowns who disliked Bill Clinton — the Rhodes scholar who unlike Bush a) really did come from humble origins and b) really is from the South — because he was both smarter and harder-working than they were and are. (And I say this as someone who thinks Clinton was far too conservative.)
The Washington press corps have fawned over Republicans and spat on Democrats for decades now. Read On Bended Knee to see how the game worked when Reagan was in the White House.
We need some Dems who know how to play dirty politics. Probably most of you don’t remember when they could and it was fun to watch. Now the Dems are so politically correct they are afraid to soil their hands. They had better learn.
Phoenix Woman @ 182
‘BlogHussy’!!! Nice! PW ya might wanna set up a kiosk near Wide-Stance’s Stall, it’s seems to be the Twin-Cities’ biggest tourist ‘trap’!!! *g*
I see now, that you have seen it…what more can be done? Thanks “madmommy” for pointing out that all you can hear is that soft, smooth tone from Kerry saying how it was obvious that the student…blah,blah,blah…Kerry didn’t stand up for that child and obviously wouldn’t have stood up for any American child either….UGH!!!!!! Our poor country
Condi Rice is leaping into action in Iraq finally. Not to save the Iraqi government but to save Blackwaters’ ass.
It is amazing what motivates the Bushies.
-GSD
Phoenix Woman @ 190
That was invented by the same Washington media clowns who disliked Bill Clinton — the Rhodes scholar who unlike Bush a) really did come from humble origins and b) really is from the South — because he was both smarter and harder-working than they were and are. (And I say this as someone who thinks Clinton was far too conservative.)
The Washington press corps have fawned over Republicans and spat on Democrats for decades now. Read On Bended Knee to see how the game worked when Reagan was in the White House.
And now we are dealing with the end results. Thank you for your posts, I always learn something I didn’t know.
loohoo at 172-wanted link
i’ve looked all afternoon for my old links on it…..can’t find it yet…….will keep looking, it was back before i had bookmarks folders, so is a mess in there…….
but what brought it up again for me was i heard it again today on npr, a journalist named hemingway, wrote about them in the weekly standard (i think) last fall…..i posted this earlier, didn’t write it down, from memory…….eric prince was a navy seal, he and his sisters have an auto parts empire…….and his father was a big repub, too…….
he or his father put up money to back james dobson when he founded focus on the family…….i originally heard that from one of my friends a long time ago…….try to google it, i’m on dial up so google is not my friend, once in a while i’ll google stuff for people, but normally, no……takes long enough to do my own…….
but i will try to find the links i already have…….but it’ll be tomorrow, have to get up early and still have things to do before i go to bed……
Ooh, 360 all over the Blackwater story…
re: “a little forgotten tidbit”:
that’s what i think the anthrax attack in the u.s. in 2001 was;
an orchestrated effort, probably known to rumsfeld and his pal cheney,
that was intended to frighten the public about WMD’s – weapons of mass destruction – not just airplanes used to attack the world trade center.
that the two events occurred so close together suggests the possibility of collusion.
the fbi never seemed to pursue the anthrax matter rigorously and vigorously,
just as it did not pursue the “uranium from niger” forgery rigorously and vigorously.
make of it what you will – coincidence or connection.
i suspect public-influencing covert action with american officials complicit.
CTuttle @ 158
So, how do you suppose they’re feeling about Uncle Sam now?
Bob in HI
America is starting to get awfully brown shirty if I might point out.
-GSD
G @ 193
Can’t take credit for that, it was LS.
sporkovat @ 99
Thing is, both the Reichstag fire and the WTC are the same deal: Terrorists did indeed cause them, but in both cases the Nazis used the attacks to seize nearly-unlimited power.
For a good debunking of the WTC 7 theories — namely, the “WTC 7 wasn’t damaged that badly” myth — see http://www.debunking911.com/WTC7.htm .
(One thing to bear in mind: The bombers, in spacing the separate plane attacks the way they did, were using an old IRA trick, once the IRA gave up on because it pissed off too many people: The “let’s stage one blast, wait for the first-responders to show up, then stage the other” trick. And it worked fiendishly well. A large chunk of the NYPD went down that day.)
GSD @ 200
Indeed, indeed, indeed.
orionATL @ 198
Lots of *Black Helicopters* here tonight ; )
orionATL @ 198
Heh, Jewell and the CDC guy with the lake drained and all, begs for further scrutiny to all single deranged individual memes…!!!
ADM @ 168
Yeah, the groupnewsblog was more informative on the issue, but who knows what their sources are. The Timesonline only mentions higher ups, not soldiers specifically. I know I read about soldiers naming him betrayus, but I don’t remember where. If you find anything better, please post it here.
Here’s Kerry’s phone number, which the LS’s are repeatedly tormenting:
(202)464-2136
TeddySanFran @ 159
Teddy, I completely agree with you.
My comment was an attempt to chase a very small joke. I think I came back empty-handed.
Cozumel @ 203
Where?
Rep. John Murtha’s handling the his press conference with the Washington Press Club quite well on Cspan 1 from earlier today – worthwhile IMO.
CTuttle @ 192
I saw that. Hilarious!
Right now the buzz locally is about the surprise decision of Jim Ramstad, our local “moderate” Republican (meaning he voted with the Bush Junta 78% of the time), not to run for another term. Right now, Andy Luger looks to be the leader of the Democratic challengers for Ramstad’s open seat, though the fine folks at the DCCC have apparently been hypnotized by the losing track record and enormous sense of entitlement of Buck Humphrey, whose sole qualification is being the lackwit grandson of a great Minnesota Senator.
Phoenix Woman @ 210
Rahm sure knows how to pick ‘em. I wish he would just stop and let 2008 happen without his special self.
sporkovat @ 99
I don’t know if any of those refer to Hearst and the “Remember the Maine” battlecry to go to war in the Phillipines, but this stuff has been going on for a long time now, maybe even since *gasp* Paul started writing letters while in jail about Jesus. Jesus sat on the Mount, gave his Sermon, walked around with some like-minded Jews and Maoists, lived a noble life, and than the yahoos got together and said, “let’s write a bunch of stuff about this guy and rally the troops “(terribly written letters, I might add). Propoganda has been around forever.
loo hoo-here is the npr segment on blackwater that you can listen to…….there is another link in there, too…….i’m not sure which one had the journalist hemingway who wrote about blackwater……i think the listen link……….
http://www.npr.org/templates/s…..d=14478969
orionATL @ 198
If what you are suggesting is true, it was to scare the shit out of congress, not the people. So that they would vote the way they did time after time, without regard to the Constitution. Which they overwhelmingly did. Time after time.
I’m giving up for the night. Putting the kid to bed, then putting And the Band Played On for a little reminder of what we’ve been through.
It’s sad, but it’s also a source of strength for us. Sweet dreams, kids.
Twain @ 211
Who could have anticipated . . .
Phoenix Woman @ 210
I would put ya in the ‘undecided’ column for a Buck poll…!!! ;-)
annagranfors @ 164
holy cow! i just watched the video and now i’m furious too. why the fuck didn’t kerry tell the police to stop? how could he just ignore someone screaming for help?
selise @ 219
I wonder what happen to the Iranian young man at UCLA that was tasared for not leaving the library. Didn’t he sue?
marymc-how was the dog walk, feeling a bit better I hope!
Thanks so much, dmac.
Phoenix Woman @ 202
also, the first attack get’s everyone’s attention, get’s the cameras rolling… so when the second attack occurs many more (in the case of 911 probably millions) of people are watching live. much more traumatic that way.
Tasered, Folks, it’s Tasered…!!!
madmommy @ 221
Sort of.
selise @ 219
Why the fu*k didn’t Kerry do what fighting Al Gore did when his presidential election was at stake. As the widow of a Viet Nam vet I blame his halting, slow responses on the horrors of that war.
Interesting reading about Blackwater and Erik Prince in this Democracy Now interview Amy Goodman did with Jeremy Scahill, author of Blackwater: The Rise of the World’s Most Powerful Mercenary Army.
CTuttle @ 224
Spell check police alert!!!!!
marymccurnin @ 225
Paying attention sucks, there’s just so much to get into a tizzy about.
marymccurnin @ 228
someone call for me?
Suzzane!!!!
marymccurnin @ 227
*g* Taser is the weapon…!!!
annagranfors @ 68
Goddamn Sally Field!
There is a disturbing trend in recent weeks of police overreaction. Breaking a Reverend/Iraq Vet’s leg. Plowing through a small, quiet crowd with a police horse (this is extremely dangerous), and now this kid in Florida asking a question. Public Q&A’s ALWAYS have some people talk alot and never really ask a question, have their own little agenda to bring up, or are rude.
There’s a YouTube version where you see the entire exchange and it’s really not very long or aggressive compared to countless events I’ve attended. The kid just cut through the crap, and said he had three questions which he asked fairly quickly, while being interupted alot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqAVvlyVbag
Things are coming to boil in America, but there don’t seem to be very many of us this time compared to the 60s. Why that audience wasn’t up physically protecting that kid is beyond me. That was insane.
I’m thinking the strategy developed by the neocons in response to the 60s, namely taking over the media to control the message and belittle people who actually understand the Constitution (i.e. Liberals), is resulting in our apathetic society. We’ve had an entire generation or two grow up now in this media dynamic.
The powers-that-be seem to have a strategy to nip dissent in the bud before things get outta hand, like in the 60s. Let’s hope it doesn’t end in another Kent State tragedy.
marymccurnin @ 220 –
i don’t know…
while i get pissed off when cops are abusively violent like that… having been pepper sprayed and tear gassed myself (and seen much worse done to others), police brutality doesn’t suprise me nearly as much as kerry’s indifference.
i don’t see how kerry could have not seen and not heard what was happening. well, he’s got one pissed off constituent who’s going to call all his offices tomorrow and tell them to get some humanity. talk about elite indifference to other’s suffering.. omg.
TRex is upstairs
Here’s Kerry’s number – bombard him:
(202)464-2136
It’s like a boxing match when the opponent takes a “dive”, Kerry just copped out and he’s still copping out, even at the expense of a young man, a college student, asking a legitimate question about justification for his copp out in the 2004 election. It is a legitimate question, and does not deserve physical abuse and tasaring as a response. This is flat out wrong. I don’t care if he’s a Democrat or a Republican. This is wrong. How dare he allow that to happen in front of his very eyes. The student touches on the most important points of our time. The vote, the voter fraud, Bush impeachment…then he mentions “Skull and Bones”, and they attack him…
On the Kerry speech tasering thing, it’s hard to see/hear what is going on outside of the student. At the beginning of the tape, (Kathleen’s #95-second link) Kerry does say at the beginning of the brouhaha, let me answer his question. (Question being did he do Skulls and Bones frat). Sounded to me like Kerry did try to hear him at the beginning.
newspaperbrat @ 225
I agree, NPB, Nam has affected him, and many others, now we’re cooking up a fresh batch of youth lost…!!! 8-(
Prairie Sunshine @ 227
Erik Prince is from Holland, Michigan. Strict Calvanist, where the Calvanists believe in Pre-desitination, or in other words, double Pre-destination, where: (1) he, along with other Calvinists in his sect are destined to go to Heaven, irregardless of what they do on earth–good deeds do not matter (big distinction from Catholicism)–and BAD DEEDS do not matter. There is a certain select number of people, them, who are going to heaven, which means, (2) the rest of us who are not a part of these wackos are not going to heaven. We are “predestined” to go to Hell, e.g., double predestination. Most in the Lake will say, “Get Tough, that thinking went on hundreds of years ago with the Great Schism” but my dear friends at the Lake, people in Holland and other parts of West Michigan still believe it. Iraqi citizens: they are going to hell, anyway, so if they don’t get out of the way fast enough, gun them down on the street and grease the skids for them. Look it up.
“The anthrax attack in the u.s. in 2001″
Most likely a Lone Wolf, IMO
“Three people can keep a secret if two of them are dead”
Which, as far as I’m concerned, blows all of the other conspiracy theories out of the water discussed here tonight ; )
GSD @ 200
What law enforcement did in public to that student is despicable and beneath contempt – as was Kerry’s characteristically limp respose.
Law enforcement did this – quite deliberately, poltergiests didn’t make ‘em do it.
And they did it in public in front of a US Senator.
Last week the Capitol Police viciopusly assaulted the people’s (and Jesus’) servant, a minister.
For the crime of coming to the people’s hearing room in the people’s Branch of the Republic – the Congress.
From eleven years of working with civil disobedients (as an arrestee and medic) -
welcome to the outrage.
We’ve been kinda lonely here, and you are welcome.
Please bring your friends.
In front of the Goddess and everybody, law enforcement Tasered the citizen daring to challenge The Powerful.
In front of the Staples Center in 2000, teh LAPD shot the NLG attorney and law professor on site.
Like all the NLG folk, she was wearing fluorescent chartreuse vest and cap.
And the LAPD shot her in the forehead outside of a permitted concert.
Why? Some “anarchists” at the opposite side of the concert allegedly threw two bottles at the LAPD.
So the LAPD shot the law professor 400 yards away from the bottles – and made the concert between the two spots a free fire zone.
[The shooting was with “non-lethal” projectiles and chemical weapons.
Non-lethal except when they kill.
Like the deadly non-lethal Tasers kill.]
With rare exceptions, US law enforcement now routinely use physical violence against non-violent progressive citizens simply speaking at and/or observing public events.
Chemical weapons painted on the eyes – recorded by the Humboldt County Sheriffs who did it..as a training film.
That was 1997 (6?).
In 1999 60,000 people and an entire American city were subjected to two days of chemical warfare.
For the crime of sitting in downtown streets.
If Russia attacked 60,000 Americans with chemical weapons, we’d start WW III.
When our own law enforcement does it, we have a commission to decide if it was a problem.
The cops who Tasered the citizen Petitioning the Senator for Redress of Grievances did it on camera because they can – and they know it.
And they want the civilians to know it.
And the few thousand uber-wealthy and uber-politicians who sit atop the pile don’t mind reminding us – as often as they feel scared.
Our paramilitarized law enforcement are at war.
With us, the civilians.
When we successfully challenge power with massive non-violent change, law enforcement comes to beat us, gas us, taser us, and – if that fails – kill us.
And we’re winning – and they’ll fail.
To protect and to serve….
the megacorps and the Money Party.
A Republic, if you can keep it.
Let’s take it back.
Cozumel @ 240
It’s a competition?
A riff on the Black Helicoptor Meme:
Criminal conspiracies exist on every level of society — except at the very top (so it goes).
If you think criminal conspiracies exist at the very top level of society, you’re insane.
You need to be “medicated.”
This tin-foil-hat-meme is antiquated in light of the events of the last 6.5 years.
What has me in a tither is the lack of any recent followup/update on the issue of the use Depleted Uranium (’DU’) by our forces in Iraq in their heavy ammo and armor (god knows they need any and all the armor they can, but does it have to be radioactive?)…
…If there was ever cessation of DU use over there, I missed hearing about it…
This comment is dedicated to James, who may have left us in great frustration and to the many friends I have encountered here, among them especially pow wow, kirk murphy, selise, Laura Doty, LHP and all of the rest of you who educate me and encourage hope in my soul in these dark and uncertain days. This comment was originally made on Scarecrows post entitled ‘Bush is Holding the Troops Hostage to “Success.”‘ I hope you will forgive me for being repetitious.
Although I dislike the term, appeasement now seems to be quite accurate and appropriate in describing the response of the Democratic leadership to the disastrous ‘war on terror’ polity of the Bush administration. The unwillingness of the ‘opposition’ party to actually ‘oppose’manifest and accelerating failure is, simply, beyond belief.
The Democrats often counter, when pressed, that they ‘know things’ we citizens do not; therefore we must ‘trust’ their judgment. That attitude is not beyond belief, it is merely despicable.
Decisions of Life and Death, in a nation which pretends ‘democracy’ CANNOT be left to an elite group, hiding behind ‘national security’ or ’secrecy,’ many of whom are darlings of wealth and immune, for the most part, to the consequences of their decisions.
For our nation, this is an era of infamy and shame, the bulk of which rests squarely on the shoulders of the ruling class, while the brutal, often lethal cost is borne by an ill-served and increasingly desperate citizenry. A citizenry who cannot trust that the small ‘participation’ allowed them, the ‘right’ to vote, is either meaningful or even honestly reported.
Coupled to a complacent and uninterested media, the behavior of the ‘deciders’ is neither open to careful scrutiny nor subject to meaningful debate. All is now sham, pretense, arrogance and deceit.
Our nation, at the most profound crossroads of its history, is out of control and a danger to the world itself, a juggernaut of hubris and self-deluding myth.
Following the President’s mindless reiterations and appeals to what may only be termed ‘magical thinking’ in his ’speech’ of September 13, 2007, the Democrats, with few exceptions, most notably the too-short response of John Edwards, simply made little yipping sounds. The Democrats have failed miserably and utterly, to respond or behave,
with any evident understanding of the enormity and consequence of these times. As we apparently drift ever closer towards world-wide conflagration, their concerns appear petty, parochial and geared to a calculus of personal or partisan gain. Their response, to date, is not merely insufficient – it is cowardly, disastrous and deadly. And yet, they fully expect to be rewarded for their ‘efforts.’
If any on the Republican side possess even the minutest smidgen of conscience then it is NOT evident. If ever a political party deserved banishment to the dustbin of oblivion, it is today’s GOP. ‘The party of Lincoln’ has embraced the essential elements of fascism and appears to relish the prospect of ‘endless war.’ The party’s leaders have eagerly adopted an ‘end-time’ thesis of a vengeful Armageddon, which is now being peddled abroad, in certain regions, with gleeful anticipation.
Mounting violence, uncounted deaths, and increasingly widespread suffering apparently trouble their avarice and the alleged ‘purity’ of their Heavenly Guidance, not at all.
The official policies of both political parties essential embrace the ‘divine right’ of money.
There is no philosophy of governance, simply a holistic embrasure of greed, wrapped in appeals to blind patriotism and a brutal, brutalizing perversion of Christianity, the hypocrisy of which is on daily display.
Were our nation not staggering drunk on power we might even be ashamed. And well we should be, for the least-evolved and most-vile amongst us hold sway and swagger in the conceit that none may gainsay them.
At horrific cost they shall be proved wrong.
The soul of our very humanity, as well as our future is on the line.
David Bartoo:
great post. triple ding on that. What happened to that student right in front of Kerry is a good example of how the ruling class, or whatever you may call them in your terminology, feel that the commoners can be treated.
and Pheonix Woman.. that link sure looks like a comprehensive debunking site… they’ve done a lot of work, there was a lot of back and forth.
And Cozumel – lone wolfs don’t brew up weaponized anthrax, nor does Fort Detrick ‘just lose it’ okay?
So where did it come from? Did a Black Helicopter drop it? Maybe you beleive Khalid Sheik Mohammed did it… or did he forget to include that in his confession?
So, the Stateless Dept and the Geheimstaatspolizei deemed another foreign musicologist to be a threat to national security, and after more than ten years’ residence in the US, summarily ejected her shortly before she was to marry a US national and acquire a right of permanent abode here. Lions and tigers and bears. Please save us from the wicked witch.
Now in Reality Land, a developed country’s State Dept should have advised such a long time resident that it was revoking her residency and work permits and allowed her to reapply for them from outside the US. That might allow her to a) fight the decision openly, before being tarred as if she were a criminal, and b) take care of her job, the cat, the car at the airport lot, her apt or home lease, her students, her fiance, and oh, pay her last utility bills before having her credit impaired for not doing so.
In BushWorld, our State Dept says nussink. Our dangerous, thirty-something musicologist from Oxford and Berkeley attempts to re-enter after a working visit to her home country, the UK, and armed Customs and Immigration agents interrogate her for hours. Needlessly. They knew nothing – other than about the State Dept’s decision not to renew her permits. They wanted no information from her. She had none to give. She’s not allowed to tell her fiance, returning from the UK with her and waiting for her elsewhere in the SFO airport. They accuse her of being “Hispanic” when she’s Welsh and Sikh, and throw sand in her face about not being able to speak, among other languages, Welsh (she was born in Wales). She is humiliatingly and frighteningly ejected not because she’s dangerous, but because our SFO airport guards get a kick out of doing it that way. She’s been fighting her summary ejection for a year, to no avail.
In Reality Land, the Customs agents would be demoted or fired and sent back to the rejected-for-guard-duty-at-San-Quentin hiring pool from which they were chosen. She would marry her US national fiance and re-enter the US as of right and with an apology from State.
In BushWorld, the guards keep their jobs and keep treating all entering foreigners as if each worked for Al Qaeda, and never themselves have to pass an English as a foreign language test or a criminal background check. In BushWorld, the State Dept never has to check its information to see how faulty it may be, and like George, Tasers people instead of apologizing for its mistakes.
It is possible, of course, that this was not a mistake and our musicologist has been sending coded messages to Al Qaeda in the notes of a purportedly newly discovered Elgar march. But since these bozos work for George, the odds of that are not good. In a world in which George never hires anyone more talented than himself, we are doomed to incompetence and adolescent vindictiveness. How many more days?
SnarKassandra @ 13
One word to describe the entire situation, GROSS!!! At what poit will the US guns turn on the Iraqi nationalist who realize they are gettingn screwed by the saME interests that screw the American population!!!!!
Natural Selection, Corporate T(r)eason and “Executive Oil”
America’s long-term goal, the survival of our democracy, its economic prosperity and solvency are threatened by elements in our own culture whose “self-interest,” is protected and flourishes at the expense of the governed, and for some arguably, the world. This identified dysfunction, where essential energy needs are based on short-term ill logic, combined with a lack of political will and an outright failure to plan long term is no mistake. It has been orchestrated and guaranteed by proactive measures utilized by petroleum interests and its bedfellows at all levels of government and the market, protecting entrenched political / financial interests.
Under the illusion of liberation, for the Iraqi people and a “War on Terror,” against Osama and his network, the Bush administration and congress have deceived America. The administration aided by Congress leveraged the events of 9/11/2001, and subsequent National Post Traumatic Stress Disorder to its political advantage by embarking on a dangerous course within America and in an area of the world, where unintended consequences are the norm. The lack of fact and historical context to the War in Iraq, a gigantic void in our past and current decision making process, is evidenced, if by nothing else, the decades long, senseless loss of life in Iraq, which continues to date, under occupation.
One fact is undeniable. An organism’s inability to adapt to a changing environment is extinction. America’s failure to aggressively develop clean and efficient alternative energy sources in a growing world energy market over a thirty year period is displaying such inability to adapt. The demonstrably ill effects of two prior oil embargoes, recent history, on America has been eviscerated from our collective memory and the “logic of reason,” replaced by instilments, so pleasurable and numerous given our finite affluence, that we are incapable of grasping the inevitable consequences of our actions. However, in spite of conscience attempts by our political leaders to digress and manipulate issues, for their political livelihood, reality provides simple truths. Americans are yearning for responsible local, state and national leadership addressing real issues and taking reasoned measures to address those issues.
The “Iraq War” is symptomatic of America’s addiction to oil. Seldom is the relationship between oil and terror discussed, nor are the histories of oil rich countries and American and British involvement really brought to light in the mainstream media. Also ignored are the suppressed national movements of oil rich countries attempting to exercise self-determination and control of their natural resources. Movements, not unlike ours here in America, squashed and crushed by corporate oil’s considerable clout via US and British military operations and covert actions, again manifest in Iraq.
Today the petroleum industry prospers, by shifting the cost of the “Iraq War,” what is essentially a start up cost, to the American taxpayer on money borrowed from foreign interests. This reality, when viewed against a backdrop of forever increasing energy costs ($80.00 per barrel oil) in addition to the loss of fathers, mothers, sons, daughters and non-combatants in an untenable “Iraqi War,” while the perpetrators of 911 have not been eradicated is absurd.
Energy is the most important issue facing our democracy. However, instead of fostering corporate oil off its “cash cow” to “begrudgingly” assist in vital and necessary “energy adaptations,” consistent with natural selection, the administration overstated the threat to America’s national security. Under the paternalistic tone of a “War on Terror,” started the “Iraq War,” on intentionally, misleading, cherry-picked intelligence is “protecting” the interests of the petroleum industry. Herein lies, t(r)eason when in the interest of political expediency “Reason,” is replaced by the servile prejudices of policy makers, using the “executive powers” of the presidency of the United States and our military, not for the benefit of American society and the general welfare of the governed, but rather to guarantee corporate oil’s stranglehold on America and profit, while enabling America’s oil addiction,” Iraq’s occupation and subjugation of its right to self determination, to western interests is inconsistent with the American values.
Self-sacrifice for family and friend in a legitimate “War on Terror” is honorable and a necessary cost in protecting god given “reason” and freedoms, secured by the rule of law, from the ravages of misguided religious and secular intolerances, absolutisms and greed, both foreign and domestic. However, for this American, it is impossible to justify and equate that same cost, to secure a foreign barrel of Iraqi, Al-Anbar Province extracted, “Executive Oil.”
If there be no greater sacrifice than to lay down one’s life in defense of freedom so others may live; then it stands that the intentional manipulation of “reason” and the ‘systematic instillation; of “falsehoods,” leading to war triggering unwarranted death and destruction constitutes a high crime. In moments of crisis the rule of law provided guidance. The wisdom of our founders provides a path less taken. America has always reaffirmed the values we hold dear, like, “…. liberty and justice for all.” Given its plain and ordinary meaning, not some twisted legalese designed to deny someone protection from government policies, good or bad? Our founders laid the foundation for America’s solution to our devastated credibility and moral authority in this world. It is a demonstrative corrective measure. Joe Wilson’s OPED, “What I Did Not Find In Africa,” http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0706-02.htm, posed a question, if left unanswered, is unacceptable! “The act of war is the last option of a democracy, taken when there is a grave threat to our national security. More than 200 American soldiers have lost their lives in Iraq already. We have a duty to ensure that their sacrifice came for the right reasons?”
Well knowing what we know now about “the intentional fabrication of intelligence,” can this be justified taking a hard look at all the “facts” and an undistorted view of history!! Now, to hide behind national security and executive privilege to obstruct judicial review and constitutional accountability is over the top and a threat to liberty everywhere, for where the rule of law ends, tyranny begins.
Natural Selection, Corporate Treason, and “Executive Oil”
Side note: Footnote 5., pgs, 4-5 of Justice Kennedy’s recent NSA decision is scary. Seems in a footnote the Judge identifies a “constitutional violation,” the executive’s refusal to permit the judge and or law clerk with proper security clearance to view “certain” documents in a fact based inquiry. This is blatant judicial obstruction. A judge cannot determine the justification for withholding a FOI request of Government, if the evidence to make that determination is withheld in violation of BASIC constitutional principles. JUST LIKE SILENT GERMANS, NOBODY SAYS ANYTHING!!!! Now we find that Bush wants a lasting occupation in Iraq, Talk, about moving goalposts, we are now on a different planet.
As President Kennedy presented irrefutable evidence of nuclear missiles installation in Cuba, Powell’s presentation concerning Iraqi WMD before the UN had the same effect on me. As Mrs. Powell later stated on the Larry King Show, “They used my husband.” What more need to be said. Are there sufficient facts to meet a threshold, “probable cause” to initiate an investigation concerning allegations of high crimes and misdemeanors by the executive. At this point I wish we where all dealing with Clinton’s lying under oath about a BJ in the oval office. It terms of severity and scope, it is a nat on a bull’s arse, where Bush has obliterated the bull’s arse. There is no comparison. This administration is criminal. BTW, kill Bin Lauden………..
Peterr @ 40
Peterr- happy to hear you’re from KC. We are having a big progressive happy hour this Wed at Baja 600. Come on by and have a cocktail or two!
Cliff Varnell @ 96
Oh no, watch out, here come the cops with tasers….
Oh no Mr. Bill.
wesgpc @ 161
He’s just one of the rats leaving a sinking ship, but trying to rationalize their involvement and innocence.
All this Bush stuff was ’sold’ to various people based on their interests. Apparently they sold the war to Greenspan based on an economics idea. Of course, being a solid Bushie, he bought it hook line and sinker.
And, he is historically very involved because of the way he manipulated interest rates in 2000, causing the .com bubble burst and trying to sink the Gore campaign hopes.
Greenspan was on the front lines.