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		<title>By: kirk murphy</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/15/the-people-of-the-lie/#comment-970421</link>
		<dc:creator>kirk murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 03:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;(ducks)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Petrocelli</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/15/the-people-of-the-lie/#comment-970418</link>
		<dc:creator>Petrocelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 03:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-970414&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;kirk murphy @ 299&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-970351&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Peterr @ 279&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;And yet he seems to have the attitude that women alone are responsible for a pregnancy?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hey - they’re not?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;LOL … 707 … LOL …&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-970414"><em>kirk murphy @ 299</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-970351"><em>Peterr @ 279</em></a></p>
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<p>And yet he seems to have the attitude that women alone are responsible for a pregnancy?</p>
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<p>Hey &#8211; they’re not?</p>
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<p><b>LOL … 707 … LOL …<br />
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		<title>By: kirk murphy</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/15/the-people-of-the-lie/#comment-970414</link>
		<dc:creator>kirk murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 03:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-970351&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Peterr @ 279&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-970337&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;SnarKassandra @ 265&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;What do you mean?  He is 23 and practically married.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And yet he seems to have the attitude that women alone are responsible for a pregnancy?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hey - they’re not?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-970351"><em>Peterr @ 279</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-970337"><em>SnarKassandra @ 265</em></a></p>
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<p>What do you mean?  He is 23 and practically married.</p>
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<p>And yet he seems to have the attitude that women alone are responsible for a pregnancy?</p>
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<p>Hey &#8211; they’re not?</p>
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		<title>By: demi</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/15/the-people-of-the-lie/#comment-970406</link>
		<dc:creator>demi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 03:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-970385&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;SnarKassandra @ 294&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-970371&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Petrocelli @ 291&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
My talk with Dad went something like this, &lt;em&gt;“Son, if you get a girl into trouble, you don’t have to worry about answering to her father … you will have to answer to me !!!&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Dear Girl, you don’t have to like it.  And, I think I understand what you’re getting at.  But, respectfully, Mr. Petro can use whatever words he wants when he speaks to his sons?  Agreed?  At least they’ll Know to be careful.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i don’t like the phrase “in trouble”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-970385"><em>SnarKassandra @ 294</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-970371"><em>Petrocelli @ 291</em></a></p>
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My talk with Dad went something like this, <em>“Son, if you get a girl into trouble, you don’t have to worry about answering to her father … you will have to answer to me !!!</em></p>
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<p>Dear Girl, you don’t have to like it.  And, I think I understand what you’re getting at.  But, respectfully, Mr. Petro can use whatever words he wants when he speaks to his sons?  Agreed?  At least they’ll Know to be careful.</p>
<p>i don’t like the phrase “in trouble”</p>
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		<title>By: Petrocelli</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/15/the-people-of-the-lie/#comment-970401</link>
		<dc:creator>Petrocelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 03:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-970385&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;SnarKassandra @ 294&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-970371&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Petrocelli @ 291&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
My talk with Dad went something like this, &lt;em&gt;“Son, if you get a girl into trouble, you don’t have to worry about answering to her father … you will have to answer to me !!!&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i don’t like the phrase “in trouble”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He was not referring only to pregnancy, but if she got hurt in a crash due to drinking &amp; driving or drug overdose, etc. … he taught me that I am responsible for myself as well as those around me, from a very early age …&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-970385"><em>SnarKassandra @ 294</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-970371"><em>Petrocelli @ 291</em></a></p>
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My talk with Dad went something like this, <em>“Son, if you get a girl into trouble, you don’t have to worry about answering to her father … you will have to answer to me !!!</em></p>
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<p>i don’t like the phrase “in trouble”</p>
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<p>He was not referring only to pregnancy, but if she got hurt in a crash due to drinking &amp; driving or drug overdose, etc. … he taught me that I am responsible for myself as well as those around me, from a very early age …</p>
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		<title>By: bluetoe</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/15/the-people-of-the-lie/#comment-970390</link>
		<dc:creator>bluetoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 03:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Of course Republicans and many in the traditional media lie.  They have positions of power and priviledge to protect and the public be damned.  If the truth were known to the American public some of these folks would be serving time in prison if they were lucky and swinging from a tree if not so lucky.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course Republicans and many in the traditional media lie.  They have positions of power and priviledge to protect and the public be damned.  If the truth were known to the American public some of these folks would be serving time in prison if they were lucky and swinging from a tree if not so lucky.</p>
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		<title>By: Petrocelli</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/15/the-people-of-the-lie/#comment-970388</link>
		<dc:creator>Petrocelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 03:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-970355&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Elliott @ 283&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-970350&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Petrocelli @ 277&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
If y’all are ever in Toronto and don’t have the good sense to let me know ahead of time,&lt;br /&gt;
there’s a bakery downtown called Bregman’s that make quite possibly &lt;em&gt;the&lt;/em&gt; best Chocolate Cheesecake in the world !!!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Oh, would have to let you know!  And then would expect said cheesecake to be served … ;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 … it’s a deal …&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-970355"><em>Elliott @ 283</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-970350"><em>Petrocelli @ 277</em></a></p>
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If y’all are ever in Toronto and don’t have the good sense to let me know ahead of time,<br />
there’s a bakery downtown called Bregman’s that make quite possibly <em>the</em> best Chocolate Cheesecake in the world !!!</p>
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<p>Oh, would have to let you know!  And then would expect said cheesecake to be served … ;)</p>
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<p><em><br />
 … it’s a deal …</em></p>
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		<title>By: SnarKassandra</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/15/the-people-of-the-lie/#comment-970385</link>
		<dc:creator>SnarKassandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 03:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-970371&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Petrocelli @ 291&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-970352&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;madmommy @ 280&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Sorry, I just assumed that a comment like that would be comming from someone younger. The fact that it’s not might be even more alarming.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don’t have daughters, but my boys will be taught that they have serious responsibilities in regards to s*x and potential pregnancy, not to mention STDs. If they feel that they are old enough to be active, they damn well better be old enough to accept any consequences. My next door neighbor is raising 5! of her grandchildren, the mother just keeps having kids and the court keeps taking them away. The poor woman is at her wits end and never in a million years thought that she would be in this situation.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My talk with Dad went something like this, &lt;em&gt;“Son, if you get a girl into trouble, you don’t have to worry about answering to her father … you will have to answer to me !!!&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i don’t like the phrase “in trouble”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-970371"><em>Petrocelli @ 291</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-970352"><em>madmommy @ 280</em></a></p>
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<p>Sorry, I just assumed that a comment like that would be comming from someone younger. The fact that it’s not might be even more alarming.</p>
<p>I don’t have daughters, but my boys will be taught that they have serious responsibilities in regards to s*x and potential pregnancy, not to mention STDs. If they feel that they are old enough to be active, they damn well better be old enough to accept any consequences. My next door neighbor is raising 5! of her grandchildren, the mother just keeps having kids and the court keeps taking them away. The poor woman is at her wits end and never in a million years thought that she would be in this situation.</p>
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<p>My talk with Dad went something like this, <em>“Son, if you get a girl into trouble, you don’t have to worry about answering to her father … you will have to answer to me !!!</em></p>
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<p>i don’t like the phrase “in trouble”</p>
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		<title>By: Petrocelli</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/15/the-people-of-the-lie/#comment-970382</link>
		<dc:creator>Petrocelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 03:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-970354&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;CTuttle @ 282&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-970350&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Petrocelli @ 277&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
If y’all are ever in Toronto and don’t have the good sense to let me know ahead of time,&lt;br /&gt;
there’s a bakery downtown called Bregman’s that make quite possibly &lt;em&gt;the&lt;/em&gt; best Chocolate Cheesecake in the world !!!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I know you’re true blue for the national fruit…!!!  ;-)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; the best Cheesecake, my friend …&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-970354"><em>CTuttle @ 282</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-970350"><em>Petrocelli @ 277</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>
If y’all are ever in Toronto and don’t have the good sense to let me know ahead of time,<br />
there’s a bakery downtown called Bregman’s that make quite possibly <em>the</em> best Chocolate Cheesecake in the world !!!</p>
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<p>I know you’re true blue for the national fruit…!!!  ;-)</p>
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<p>It <em>is</em> the best Cheesecake, my friend …</p>
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		<title>By: bonkers</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/15/the-people-of-the-lie/#comment-970381</link>
		<dc:creator>bonkers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 03:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Totally OT, but it’s sorta late-night, right?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;After forgetting about him for a while, I thought I’d check in on his Holy Rudeness, The Rude Pundit.  As always, he was on his game.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2007/09/president-to-nation-let-me-keep-trying.html&quot;&gt;Here’s his take on Shrub’s speech from last week.&lt;/a&gt;  A snippet (warning: extremely adult humour):&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;“Last night, when President Bush spoke, he had the sad demeanor of the failing carpet muncher.”&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Breaking it down like only he can!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally OT, but it’s sorta late-night, right?</p>
<p>After forgetting about him for a while, I thought I’d check in on his Holy Rudeness, The Rude Pundit.  As always, he was on his game.  <a href="http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2007/09/president-to-nation-let-me-keep-trying.html">Here’s his take on Shrub’s speech from last week.</a>  A snippet (warning: extremely adult humour):</p>
<p><em>“Last night, when President Bush spoke, he had the sad demeanor of the failing carpet muncher.”</em></p>
<p>Breaking it down like only he can!</p>
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