Right on time.

Is it cheating to sit on another window and keep poking at the refresh button?
And to have copied this from somewhere else?

third? fourth?

hi egregious! great to see you up her.

Hear hear.

TJ!? How can you be two places at once?

Happy new week! Happy new year!

Hey late nite pups!

I’ve been back and forth and back again.

I’d like to dedicate this song to George W. Bush.

After what you did, I can’t stay on,
And I’ll probably feel a whole lot better when you’re gone …

The Byrds, from 1965.

EG!

hi eg :-) (fellow Northern Virginian!)

Late?
It is just after 10pm….

Hi egregious!

I’m happy fo the great work you and your team do in Russia.

And I’m happy for the forest and my kitties (though Storm who just peed in the kitchen is not in my happy place. Or his, for that matter.)

TexBetsy @ 7

Happy new week! Happy new year!

Happy New Year, Betsy … may the new year bring all your dearest dreams to realization !

Hmmm, I just toss my Garlic bread in the oven…!!!

(((((((egregious!)))))))

EG that a cappella version is OUTSTANDING. Thank you!

Wow! Egregious! So happy to see you front page. Now to read…

egregious @ 8

Hey late nite pups!

Hiya EG, from Toronto !

Happy New Year, Betsy!

burnspbesq @ 10

I’d like to dedicate this song to George W. Bush.

After what you did, I can’t stay on,
And I’ll probably feel a whole lot better when you’re gone …

The Byrds, from 1965.

Rawkin’.

CTuttle @ 16

Hmmm, I just toss my Garlic bread in the oven…!!!

Gaelic bread, something Scottish?

CTuttle @ 16

Hmmm, I just toss my Garlic bread in the oven…!!!

What ees zee entree ?

Petrocelli @ 15

TexBetsy @ 7

Happy new week! Happy new year!

Happy New Year, Betsy … may the new year bring all your dearest dreams to realization !

Thank you. Good health and my family safe and sound would be blessing enough.

everytime I think, hear, or see the DLC, vampires come to mind.

TexBetsy @ 4

hi egregious! great to see you up her.

Hey TexBetsy,

Hope you are feeling better after your nap. And by the way thanks ever so much for those great photos you took at kos this year. One of them is particularly egregious :)

Cancer Cures @ 26

everytime I think, hear, or see the DLC, vampires come to mind.

Actually, I think of zombies – mindless animated corpses.

If the world is going to shit, I know I’ll find out about it first right here at the Lake – and still have time to snap off a snarky reply!

Kirk, great comment/term paper at 318 last thread. If you didn’t see it, pups, go on back!

*doing the happy dance because a fellow NoVA denizen is a front-pager tonight*

A cappella!
What pipes. What an ear.

I think I’m stuck in the 60s tonight.

Sam the Sham & the Pharoahs

Loo Hoo. @ 30

Kirk, great comment/term paper at 318 last thread. If you didn’t see it, pups, go on back!

Agreed, excellent writing, Kirk !

burns, you gotta watch out for that wayback machine ;-)

egregious @ 27

TexBetsy @ 4

hi egregious! great to see you up her.

Hey TexBetsy,

Hope you are feeling better after your nap. And by the way thanks ever so much for those great photos you took at kos this year. One of them is particularly egregious :)

Oh I had fun with it!

Lost the pic I took of TRex though. Not sure how, but I did.

radiofreewill @ 29

If the world is going to shit, I know I’ll find out about it first right here at the Lake – and still have time to snap off a snarky reply!

Actually, the world went to shit six years ago when a certain fake Connecticut cowboy (by way of Midland) was anointed by the Supreme Embarrassment.

Laura Doty @ 18

EG that a cappella version is OUTSTANDING. Thank you!

Isn’t it a cool one? That takes a lot of moxie, to sing without any backup.

Happy New Year, TexB!

And for the rest of you Pups … i try to throw these out, but ya never know when a tinfoil hat might be necessary. Sure to be a style for everyone!

Loo Hoo. @ 30

Kirk, great comment/term paper at 318 last thread. If you didn’t see it, pups, go on back!

i’ll 2nd that

woo hoo late late nite egregious! love those links as well!

I was composing this on my way to EPU land.

Today, I was recalling a little shtick* my uncle used to do. He would imagine the Israeli ambassador addressing the U.N. in Yiddish. The update would be Hillary Clinton addressing Rudy Guliani, who criticized her for not distancing herself from the Moveon.com “Patraeus-Betray Us” ad.

Rudy, Rudy, Rudy. You were the mayor in NYC, and the people who elected you are now my constituents. Gevalt. These are people who watched you say nothing, and do nothing, when Ann Coulter said that the widows of 9-11 were enjoying their husbands deaths too much. I think a lot of my constituents would know what I mean when I say: Rudy, kish mir.**

That night on the news, Brian Williams:

There is certainly no love loss between the leading contenders for the Democratic and Republican nomination for president. In the wake of the former mayor’s attack on Mrs. Clinton, she seemed to extend an olive branch, today, and in fact, invited him to kiss her. No word yet on how this will go over with Judith Guiliani, who is reported to love Rudy more than anyone except her Louis Vitton purse.

Notes for the Yiddishly challenged:
*”shtick” means “piece” as in a ‘piece of comedy.’

** “Kish mir” short for “Kish mir a rein.” (Kiss my ass.)

egregious @ 38

Laura Doty @ 18

EG that a cappella version is OUTSTANDING. Thank you!

Isn’t it a cool one? That takes a lot of moxie, to sing without any backup.

Really ? I do it all the time … in the shower … *g*

Good night sweets…I gotta hit it.
Have fun and peaceful dreams to all.
(And I’ll only believe half a what I see,
No more hoaxes for me.)

g’night demi, sweet dreams

Night Demi.

demi @ 44

Good night sweets…I gotta hit it.
Have fun and peaceful dreams to all.
(And I’ll only believe half a what I see,
No more hoaxes for me.)

((((( demi )))))

burns, here’s another entry from the wayback machine:

Cool Jerk

Petrocelli @ 24

CTuttle @ 16

Hmmm, I just toss my Garlic bread in the oven…!!!

What ees zee entree ?

Sausage and ground beef with mushrooms and maui onion spaghetti sauce over angel hair pasta…!!!

Petrocell,
Back attcha, eh?

Rumors are what I call generally speaking speculation unless otherwise proven unfounded….

Just as long as it’s entertaining….

Got to go—-best to the pups and the lake—-have a great weekend!….

LoudounLib @ 31

*doing the happy dance because a fellow NoVA denizen is a front-pager tonight*

Shoutout to all NoVA folks! Webb territory. And soon to be Senator MARK Warner.

and another wayback … a hopeful song, we all gotta Save the Country

egregious @ 52

LoudounLib @ 31

*doing the happy dance because a fellow NoVA denizen is a front-pager tonight*

Shoutout to all NoVA folks! Webb territory. And soon to be Senator MARK Warner.

YES What eg said!

TexBetsy @ 7

Happy new week! Happy new year!

Right back at ya!

DD, LL
NN
Where’s our MM?
(I hope her mouth’s feeling ok.)

CTuttle @ 49

Petrocelli @ 24

What ees zee entree ?

Sausage and ground beef with mushrooms and maui onion spaghetti sauce over angel hair pasta…!!!

My wife should never meet you … when she’s not around to make dinner, I give the kids ice cream … *g*

BigMitch @ 55

TexBetsy @ 7

Happy new week! Happy new year!

Right back at ya!

sent you facebook mail

TexBetsy @ 58

BigMitch @ 55

Right back at ya!

sent you facebook mail

Hey, you two. How do you say “getta room” in Yiddish?

Petrocelli @ 57

CTuttle @ 49

Sausage and ground beef with mushrooms and maui onion spaghetti sauce over angel hair pasta…!!!

My wife should never meet you … when she’s not around to make dinner, I give the kids ice cream … *g*

Hey Petro, you don’t know what you are missing. Cooked my way through three marriages. Built a lot of good will (though apparently not enough).

Petrocelli @ 57

CTuttle @ 49

Sausage and ground beef with mushrooms and maui onion spaghetti sauce over angel hair pasta…!!!

My wife should never meet you … when she’s not around to make dinner, I give the kids ice cream … *g*

Heh, I didn’t even add the tomato sauce and I had a crowd around me…!!!

I’m agnositic on Hillary, but I do believe she’s going to hit one out of the park on Monday when she announces her universal healthcare program.

Petrocelli @ 43

egregious @ 38

Isn’t it a cool one? That takes a lot of moxie, to sing without any backup.

Really ? I do it all the time … in the shower … *g*

My dogs really appreciate it whenever I belt one out. They howl in total agreement with the unleashed talent. (My daughters, however, cringe!)

DrDick @ 60

Petrocelli @ 57

My wife should never meet you … when she’s not around to make dinner, I give the kids ice cream … *g*

Hey Petro, you don’t know what you are missing. Cooked my way through three marriages. Built a lot of good will (though apparently not enough).

men who cook! DrD, they didn’t appreciate you enough.

DrDick @ 60

Petrocelli @ 57

My wife should never meet you … when she’s not around to make dinner, I give the kids ice cream … *g*

Hey Petro, you don’t know what you are missing. Cooked my way through three marriages. Built a lot of good will (though apparently not enough).

Thanks for the tip, DrD … if I want the missus to leave, I should cook … *g*

demi you scamp – could have used a spew alert at 59. ;~)

LoudounLib @ 35

burns, you gotta watch out for that wayback machine ;-)

*rummages around in toolbox, finds Crescent wrench*

*adjusts wayback machine to 1975*

Richard and Linda Thompson

*ducks to avoid TRex’s tail*

Petrocelli @ 65

DrDick @ 60

Hey Petro, you don’t know what you are missing. Cooked my way through three marriages. Built a lot of good will (though apparently not enough).

Thanks for the tip, DrD … if I want the missus to leave, I should cook … *g*

No, if you want the missus to leave, have DrD cook.

I’ve stayed up way too late on the previous two nights, so I’d better split now. Good night pups!

Night demi!

CTuttle, you fixen dinner when we converge on you someday?

Loo Hoo, Petrocelli, (((((((((((ndf))))))))))) –

thanks so much for wading through the whole thing.

I was really just thinking of Alice’s Restaurant and Support My Local Sheriff and playin for grins…

but a comment longer than the main post was rude of me, and I apologize to Thers.

Next time I’m writing with “Alice’s” in my head I’ll do a word count.

comes around again

newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 64

DrDick @ 60

Hey Petro, you don’t know what you are missing. Cooked my way through three marriages. Built a lot of good will (though apparently not enough).

men who cook! DrD, they didn’t appreciate you enough.

*cough* I saved my hands for other things … massage ... get your minds out of the gutter, sheesh … *g*

night LL

Goodnight LL

goodnight demi and ll

sleep tight – don’t let the Bushie bugs bite

LoudounLib @ 69

I’ve stayed up way too late on the previous two nights, so I’d better split now. Good night pups!

Good night, LL! sweet dreams!

Suzanne @ 68

Petrocelli @ 65

Thanks for the tip, DrD … if I want the missus to leave, I should cook … *g*

No, if you want the missus to leave, have DrD cook.

Hey! They liked my cooking (and some other things). they just didn’t like living with me.

what sort of massage Petro?

kirk, when ya got alice in your head, ya can always split the comment up into part one, part two and part three :)

LoudounLib @ 69

I’ve stayed up way too late on the previous two nights, so I’d better split now. Good night pups!

Night LL. Sleep well.

Suzanne @ 68

Petrocelli @ 65

Thanks for the tip, DrD … if I want the missus to leave, I should cook … *g*

No, if you want the missus to leave, have DrD cook.

LOL … 707 … LOL … 707 …

Goodnight, LL

Petrocelli @ 65

DrDick @ 60

Hey Petro, you don’t know what you are missing. Cooked my way through three marriages. Built a lot of good will (though apparently not enough).

Thanks for the tip, DrD … if I want the missus to leave, I should cook … *g*

What are ya, a Newfie, or something…?!!! *sheesh* *g*

LoudounLib @ 69

I’ve stayed up way too late on the previous two nights, so I’d better split now. Good night pups!

((((( LL )))))

burnspbesq @ 67

LoudounLib @ 35

burns, you gotta watch out for that wayback machine ;-)

*rummages around in toolbox, finds Crescent wrench*

*adjusts wayback machine to 1975*

Richard and Linda Thompson

*ducks to avoid TRex’s tail*

Honey it ain’t a TRex tail tonight, it’s a lovely egregious shoe.

Nighters LL.

Didn’t know Hill was outing her healthcare tomorrow, radiofreewill. Look forward to seeing that!

I just returned from walking my two larger pups down by the river. Thought I’d check in to see if the world was still here. Nice essay last thread, Kirk, but sorry about the kitty pee. My pups are very wet, muddy and happy right now.

Ack! I have a kitteh attacking my feet under the desk.

TexBetsy @ 78

what sort of massage Petro?

During my years doing deep meditation, I got several unique … er … skills. I knew some basic massage elements, but I use some unorthodox methods that really work well.

Closest I can describe it is acumassage, but I work directly on the energy level – back only, along the length of the spine and it really works (so say my legion of freeloading friends). *g*

kirk murphy @ 71

Loo Hoo, Petrocelli, (((((((((((ndf))))))))))) –

thanks so much for wading through the whole thing.

I was really just thinking of Alice’s Restaurant and Support My Local Sheriff and playin for grins…

but a comment longer than the main post was rude of me, and I apologize to Thers.

Next time I’m writing with “Alice’s” in my head I’ll do a word count.

comes around again

That was truly brilliant, Kirk and should be published.

Gotta roll. Hey it’s been great hangin out with you guys here. Have a good one. zzz

Feeling better, now that we’re through…

You’re No Good – Linda Ronstadt

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYO98TX4tdU

Gnome de Plume
I just returned from walking my two larger pups down by the river. Thought I’d check in to see if the world was still here. Nice essay last thread, Kirk, but sorry about the kitty pee. My pups are very wet, muddy and happy right now.

Thanks Gnome – that sounds lovely (flooring not withstanding).

Bad things happen when the only kitter litter on the shelf is scented.

DrDick

Ack! I have a kitteh attacking my feet under the desk.

Zounds! Glad it’s not a Timmeh.

Petrocelli @ 72

newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 64

men who cook! DrD, they didn’t appreciate you enough.

*cough* I saved my hands for other things … massage ... get your minds out of the gutter, sheesh … *g*

hmm, for some reason this is reminding me of the joke that was going around when Haagen Dazs hit the market. Supposedlly a street poll was held, “is Haagen Dazs better than sex?” Men thought a few minutes and finally said no. Women thought a few minutes and said, “depends, what flavor Haagen Dazs?”

*waving to eg from the dance floor*

The east coasters are dropping like flies…

Nite, Sleepers!!!

If anyone’s interested, I just posted links & summaries of news stories of interest from the past few days.

Loo Hoo, I heard it thru the grapevine earlier today…

Great post, kirk murphy. I wasn’t very political until the Selection of 2000. Although the Gin-Grinch ‘Contract on America’ and subsequent hunting of Clinton got my dander up, I figured that getting involved in politics was for other people – the ‘usual suspects’ who were on about everything.

But it got so awful so quick that I was impelled to get involved. Now I can’t see any other way of being a citizen.

Night egregious. Thanks for the post.

Well, I think I will head off to bed. Take care and enjoy the snark.

newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 94

Petrocelli @ 72

*cough* I saved my hands for other things … massage ... get your minds out of the gutter, sheesh … *g*

hmm, for some reason this is reminding me of the joke that was going around when Haagen Dazs hit the market. Supposedlly a street poll was held, “is Haagen Dazs better than sex?” Men thought a few minutes and finally said no. Women thought a few minutes and said, “depends, what flavor Haagen Dazs?”

They should have asked the guys if Haagen Dazs was better after sex …

Sleep well Dr D

radiofreewill @ 99

Loo Hoo, I heard it thru the grapevine earlier today…

Somebody ought to write a song…

Gee, Betsy, I would like to compliment you on your blog, but, you know, people will talk.

TexBetsy @ 101

Night egregious. Thanks for the post.

Ditto, and Nite, Dr. D…!!!

WASHINGTON, Sept. 15 — Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton on Monday will lay out a plan to secure health insurance for all Americans while severely limiting the ability of insurers to deny coverage or charge higher premiums to people with chronic illnesses and other medical problems, her aides and advisers say.

Clinton’s purpose, they said, is not only to cover the 47 million people who are uninsured but to improve the quality of health care and make insurance more affordable for those who already have it.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09…..on.html?hp

DrDick @ 102

Well, I think I will head off to bed. Take care and enjoy the snark.

G’nite Sir !

I’m off too, G’nite all !

Pleasant tomorrows !

Because of my dogs and the proximity to water, I had all the floors in my little house tiled when I bought it. And then a friend told me about the Hoover Floor Mate and that part of my life has run very smoothly ever since. (To see my pups and my river, you can check out my page at Facebook.)

My cat Gus just left my lap to see what cat Claude is up to in the kitchen. It is a kitteh night, I guess.

BigMitch @ 106

Gee, Betsy, I would like to compliment you on your blog, but, you know, people will talk.

todah rabbah

radiofreewill @ 108

WASHINGTON, Sept. 15 — Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton on Monday will lay out a plan to secure health insurance for all Americans while severely limiting the ability of insurers to deny coverage or charge higher premiums to people with chronic illnesses and other medical problems, her aides and advisers say.

Clinton’s purpose, they said, is not only to cover the 47 million people who are uninsured but to improve the quality of health care and make insurance more affordable for those who already have it.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09…..on.html?hp

The only way this works is by following the Canadian model, otherwise it will be so expensive that she will be made a laughing stock by her opponents.

G’nite !

Good night Dr D and Petrocelli!

Sleep well, egregious.

(and thanks, Alicia – good for you and all who step up for the Republic)

Poor Tom Friedman. It must have killed him to write Sunday’s piece. Excerpts below:

The sad thing for the American people is that we have no commander in chief anymore, framing our real situation and options. The president’s description on Thursday of the stakes in Iraq was delusional.

When General Petraeus honestly averred that he could not say whether pursuing the surge in Iraq would make America safer, he underscored how much the war there has become disconnected from every conceivable worthy goal — democratization of Iraq or spreading progressive governance in the Arab-Muslim world — and is now just about itself and abstractions of “winning” or “not failing.”

But at the end, as always, he loses the plot.

Democratic candidates have been talking about health care and other important issues, but the overriding foreign policy message that still comes across from them to many Americans, argues Mr. Rothkopf, is that Democrats are simply “anti-Bush, antiwar and antitrade.” Be careful: despite the mess Mr. Bush has made in the world, or maybe because of it, Americans will not hand the keys to a Democrat who does not convey a “gut” credibility on national security.

TexBetsy @ 111

BigMitch @ 106

Gee, Betsy, I would like to compliment you on your blog, but, you know, people will talk.

todah rabbah

al lo devar

When your spine is cracking and your hands, they shake,
Heart is bursting and you butt’s gonna break.
Your woman’s cussing, you can hear her scream,
You feel like murder in the first degree.
Ain’t nobody slowing down no way,
Ev’rybody’s stepping on their accelerator,
Don’t matter where you are,
Ev’rybody’s gonna need a ventilator.

Ventilator Blues – Rolling Stones

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PqEiYiR33Q

radiofreewill @ 108

WASHINGTON, Sept. 15 — Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton on Monday will lay out a plan to secure health insurance for all Americans while severely limiting the ability of insurers to deny coverage or charge higher premiums to people with chronic illnesses and other medical problems, her aides and advisers say.

Clinton’s purpose, they said, is not only to cover the 47 million people who are uninsured but to improve the quality of health care and make insurance more affordable for those who already have it.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09…..on.html?hp

I haven’t read the article or know anything about what she is proposing, but if her insurance scheme is tied to employers and jobs I will scream. I hope she is way past that by now. This will be interesting since she is the major recipient of the health insurance industry’s largesse.

Petrocelli @ 112

radiofreewill @ 108

WASHINGTON, Sept. 15 — Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton on Monday will lay out a plan to secure health insurance for all Americans while severely limiting the ability of insurers to deny coverage or charge higher premiums to people with chronic illnesses and other medical problems, her aides and advisers say.

Clinton’s purpose, they said, is not only to cover the 47 million people who are uninsured but to improve the quality of health care and make insurance more affordable for those who already have it.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09…..on.html?hp

The only way this works is by following the Canadian model, otherwise it will be so expensive that she will be made a laughing stock by her opponents.

again.

G’nite !

again.

Night sleepy pups of all genders and localities.

Gnome de Plume @ 117

radiofreewill @ 108

WASHINGTON, Sept. 15 — Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton on Monday will lay out a plan to secure health insurance for all Americans while severely limiting the ability of insurers to deny coverage or charge higher premiums to people with chronic illnesses and other medical problems, her aides and advisers say.

Clinton’s purpose, they said, is not only to cover the 47 million people who are uninsured but to improve the quality of health care and make insurance more affordable for those who already have it.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09…..on.html?hp

I haven’t read the article or know anything about what she is proposing, but if her insurance scheme is tied to employers and jobs I will scream. I hope she is way past that by now. This will be interesting since she is the major recipient of the health insurance industry’s largesse.

DING DING DING

time for me to dance my way out of the lake, folks. g’nite all

BigMitch @ 106

Gee, Betsy, I would like to compliment you on your blog, but, you know, people will talk.

What?

Dang — it got late early tonight.

sleep well suzanne. peaceful night!

Hey Mitch, if I knew Yiddish I would tell you how sorry I am that your beloved team lost today. NOT!!!! ;~)

G’night Suzanne

Loo Hoo. @ 122

BigMitch @ 106

Gee, Betsy, I would like to compliment you on your blog, but, you know, people will talk.

What?

Nice!

New York Subpoenas 5 Energy Companies
from NYT > Home Page by FELICITY BARRINGER and DANNY HAKIM
Attorney General Andrew M. Cuomo is investigating whether plans by five large energy firms to build coal-fired power plants pose undisclosed financial risks.

burnspbesq @ 123

Dang — it got late early tonight.

Yes it did. Are we on late late night, or is everyone konking early on account of Bush’s screech?

Hi everyone!
I’m dedicating this song to GOP operatives everywhere (Yes, Laura Ingraham and Broder and all y’all, this means you too):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1n03a7cLf0M
LIES
By the Knickerbockers

Petrocelli @ 109

DrDick @ 102

Well, I think I will head off to bed. Take care and enjoy the snark.

G’nite Sir !

I’m off too, G’nite all !

Pleasant tomorrows !

Buenos Noches, Mi Amigo…!!!

G’nite Suzanne…hope the fog rocks you to sleep.

Let it all come down tonight.
Keep those tears hid out of sight, let it loose, let it all come down.

Let It Loose – Rolling Stones

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqJcnWkekI8

Loo Hoo. @ 122

BigMitch @ 106

Gee, Betsy, I would like to compliment you on your blog, but, you know, people will talk.

What?

Bonnie!

Are you up this late because of your nap Betsy? Mr. Gnome and I decided we need to shift our circadian rhythms so that we go to be earlier and get up earlier. So he is asleep and I am not. I guess I should start to leave and think about going to bed. (I hope that is indecisive enough.)

Suzanne @ 121

time for me to dance my way out of the lake, folks. g’nite all

Bonne Nuit, Ma Cheri…!!!

night petro

Loo Hoo. @ 129

burnspbesq @ 123

Dang — it got late early tonight.

Yes it did. Are we on late late night, or is everyone konking early on account of Bush’s screech?

Did he say something else today? I try to avoid seeing and hearing him whenever possible.

Gnome de Plume @ 135

Are you up this late because of your nap Betsy? Mr. Gnome and I decided we need to shift our circadian rhythms so that we go to be earlier and get up earlier. So he is asleep and I am not. I guess I should start to leave and think about going to bed. (I hope that is indecisive enough.)

When a husband says we should start going to bed earlier …..

Gnome de Plume @ 135

Are you up this late because of your nap Betsy? Mr. Gnome and I decided we need to shift our circadian rhythms so that we go to be earlier and get up earlier. So he is asleep and I am not. I guess I should start to leave and think about going to bed. (I hope that is indecisive enough.)

That Refresh Button is mighty addictive…!!! *g*

I am often here until 1 or 1:30 when I nap in the afternoon. No point trying to sleep until I get tired. Especially when my first student is at noon tomorrow and I have no morning commitments.

LHP, a tip of the cap to ya.

You called this two weeks ago.

NYT: Mukasey a Candidate to Succeed Gonzo

now this can’t be good —

Foiled bomb may fuel Hamas-Fatah tensions
from RawStory

GAZA (Reuters) – A Hamas-led security force said on Sunday it found a bomb outside the parliament building in the Gaza Strip, a development that could fuel tensions between governing Islamists and President Mahmoud Abbas’s Fatah faction…

TexBetsy @ 141

I am often here until 1 or 1:30 when I nap in the afternoon. No point trying to sleep until I get tired. Especially when my first student is at noon tomorrow and I have no morning commitments.

…even on a Sunday? You’re commit-able err… committed!!! *g*

Margot @ 130

Hi everyone!
I’m dedicating this song to GOP operatives everywhere (Yes, Laura Ingraham and Broder and all y’all, this means you too):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1n03a7cLf0M
LIES
By the Knickerbockers

Perfect!

OK, I think the sandman just hit me, so I will say goodnight. And maybe only refresh comments once or twice before I go. *g*

sleep well, Gnome!

Gnome de Plume @ 135

Are you up this late because of your nap Betsy? Mr. Gnome and I decided we need to shift our circadian rhythms so that we go to be earlier and get up earlier. So he is asleep and I am not. I guess I should start to leave and think about going to bed. (I hope that is indecisive enough.)

Think about it later. It’s Saturday night FGS!

Books TV on C-Span2 now has Jeffrey Feldman, author of “Framing the Debate.”

Gnome de Plume @ 146

OK, I think the sandman just hit me, so I will say goodnight. And maybe only refresh comments once or twice before I go. *g*

Bonne Nuit, Gnome!

I love being up late, but I fall into the napping cycle when I do.

I am finally yawning, so bedtime for me too.

CTuttle @ 144

TexBetsy @ 141

I am often here until 1 or 1:30 when I nap in the afternoon. No point trying to sleep until I get tired. Especially when my first student is at noon tomorrow and I have no morning commitments.

…even on a Sunday? You’re commit-able err… committed!!! *g*

The tutoring of private students is in addition to my “regular” three jobs. And the family.

night TJ and gnome

Night poopers.

Here’s my anthem…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WGVW7byRCA

My two-bits! ;-)

I’ve been in love with Christine Collister’s voice since I saw her singing backup for Richard Thompson in the mid-80s.

Even Greenspan sees reality:

However, it is his view on the motive for the 2003 Iraq invasion that is likely to provoke the most controversy. “I am saddened that it is politically inconvenient to acknowledge what everyone knows: the Iraq war is largely about oil,” he says.

Loo Hoo. @ 157

Even Greenspan sees reality:

However, it is his view on the motive for the 2003 Iraq invasion that is likely to provoke the most controversy. “I am saddened that it is politically inconvenient to acknowledge what everyone knows: the Iraq war is largely about oil,” he says.

Ain’t Revisionist history grand??? Howza’bout a little more verbiage, earlier, ehhh??? 8-(

CTuttle @ 155

Here’s my anthem…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WGVW7byRCA

My two-bits! ;-)

CTuttle, I worked in a bar while I was in college and listened to this song probably three times a night five nights a week- FOR THREE YEARS! Brings out a definite time/place for me!

With the world of shit, headed our way, I’m gonna grab a Palm tree and…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6F5xm0QooE

time for me to sleep. night y’all.

Night, Betsy.

TexBetsy @ 161

time for me to sleep. night y’all.

G’nite, Ma’am, I pray for pain free sleep!!!

G’nite Betsy.

I was off checking the news. And all I can say is WTF!!!

Thousands of demonstrators in Washington D.C. does not make the front page of the NYT?????

CTuttle @ 163

TexBetsy @ 161

time for me to sleep. night y’all.

G’nite, Ma’am, I pray for pain free sleep!!!

Thank you kind sir.

burnspbesq @ 162

Night, Betsy.

Dang, Burns, Notre Dame shut out in the Big House???

BigMitch @ 164

G’nite Betsy.

I was off checking the news. And all I can say is WTF!!!

Thousands of demonstrators in Washington D.C. does not make the front page of the NYT?????

damn liberal media

Good night Betsy. Happy New Year.

Wishing you a good night’s sleep and that all you are safe, sound, and enjoying good health this new year and all to come.

TexBetsy @ 167

BigMitch @ 164

G’nite Betsy.

I was off checking the news. And all I can say is WTF!!!

Thousands of demonstrators in Washington D.C. does not make the front page of the NYT?????

damn liberal media

Heh, that got those synapses firing…!!! ;-)

BigMitch @ 164

G’nite Betsy.

I was off checking the news. And all I can say is WTF!!!

Hard to believe, but easy to understand. MSM does the bidding of this administration. I’m guessing there are thousands of reporters out there turning in good stories, but they get axed…

Thousands of demonstrators in Washington D.C. does not make the front page of the NYT?????

Thank you Kirk. And thanks for sharing your journey with us. (I made it through about half, but will go back to it tomorrow.)

Yawns coming fast and furious. Must shut eyes.

BigMitch @ 164

G’nite Betsy.

I was off checking the news. And all I can say is WTF!!!

Thousands of demonstrators in Washington D.C. does not make the front page of the NYT?????

The news is not news anymore. I have been persuaded about that over the last couple of years.

Clicked on your webpage by some finger slip and says your from Alaska. That is nice. Need more Alaskans spreading the work up there. I have family up by Talkeetna and over by Copper Center. I love the place.

TexBetsy @ 171

Thank you Kirk. And thanks for sharing your journey with us. (I made it through about half, but will go back to it tomorrow.)

Yawns coming fast and furious. Must shut eyes.

Hmmm… A wall? ;-)

Ooh, Yo-Yo Ma at the Linc…!!! ;-)

Loo Hoo. @ 157

Even Greenspan sees reality:

However, it is his view on the motive for the 2003 Iraq invasion that is likely to provoke the most controversy. “I am saddened that it is politically inconvenient to acknowledge what everyone knows: the Iraq war is largely about oil,” he says.

I, however, am saddened that Mr Andrea Mitchell didn’t say this when it might have fucking mattered. Can you imagine the impact of this statement if it had been made in January 2003? Not that it would have derailed the thing on its own, but it might have enabled other voices to be heard.

CTuttle @ 166

burnspbesq @ 162

Night, Betsy.

Dang, Burns, Notre Dame shut out in the Big House???

Who would ever have thought that Duke would win before Notre Dame this season?

And the schedule is not kind to ND. Their next five opponents: Michigan State, Purdue, UCLA, Boston College, USC. They could start out 0-8.

TeddySanFran @ 175

Loo Hoo. @ 157

Even Greenspan sees reality:

However, it is his view on the motive for the 2003 Iraq invasion that is likely to provoke the most controversy. “I am saddened that it is politically inconvenient to acknowledge what everyone knows: the Iraq war is largely about oil,” he says.

I, however, am saddened that Mr Andrea Mitchell didn’t say this when it might have fucking mattered. Can you imagine the impact of this statement if it had been made in January 2003? Not that it would have derailed the thing on its own, but it might have enabled other voices to be heard.

Exactly, Teddy! That’s what I alluded to at 158!!! *g*

Dang.

I waded all the way through this Wes Clark op-ed, and at the end, all I could think of was a line from an old Talking Heads song.

You’re talking a lot, but you’re not saying anything.

True, Teddy. Lots of people trying to redeem themselves now that everyone gets it. No respect for the people who didn’t speak up when it could have helped, and lots of great respect for the Wilson and Ritter types.

burnspbesq @ 176

CTuttle @ 166

Dang, Burns, Notre Dame shut out in the Big House???

Who would ever have thought that Duke would win before Notre Dame this season?

And the schedule is not kind to ND. Their next five opponents: Michigan State, Purdue, UCLA, Boston College, USC. They could start out 0-8.

Heh, there might be some ten loss teams in the Big Ten… Bwhahahaha… Ucla went down big?

CTuttle @ 180

Ucla went down big?

I’ll say. Didn’t see the game. Apparently they didn’t show up.

New cafe press bumperstickers arrived today with blood red background and stark white lettering:

BUSH DESERVES A
THIRD TERM: PRISON

Gonna wash and polish the old jalopy with special care for the rear window and happily tootle around the towns on the Monterey peninsula Sunday afternoon.

burnspbesq @ 181

CTuttle @ 180

Ucla went down big?

I’ll say. Didn’t see the game. Apparently they didn’t show up.

The Pac Ten is as Wacky as my WAC teams…!!!

newspaperbrat @ 182

New cafe press bumperstickers arrived today with blood red background and stark white lettering:

BUSH DESERVES A
THIRD TERM: PRISON

Gonna wash and polish the old jalopy with special care for the rear window and happily tootle around the towns on the Monterey peninsula Sunday afternoon.

Go, Girl!!!

ANSWER estimates the D.C. protest crowd size was 100,000.

This story in Sunday’s WaPo reminded me of this Paul Simon song.

The better half is beckoning, I shall bid another fond adieu! Aloha Oe!!!

Loo Hoo. @ 30

Kirk, great comment/term paper at 318 last thread. If you didn’t see it, pups, go on back!

Loo Hoo, thanks for the tip.

And my commendations to Kirk.

Aloha, CT. Be good … or be discreet.

CTuttle @ 187

The better half is beckoning, I shall bid another fond adieu! Aloha Oe!!!

Sweet, fond adieu you two!

Hmmm … six minutes to Sunday … believe I’ll call it a night.

Last one out, be sure to turn off the beer taps and unplug the jukebox.

radiofreewill @ 62

I’m agnositic on Hillary, but I do believe she’s going to hit one out of the park on Monday when she announces her universal healthcare program.

If it ain’t single-payer, it ain’t shit. She made the mistake of including the insurance companies last time, and I’m betting she’ll make the same mistake again. She’s bought and paid for.

Sometimes, we just have to Shake It…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CT96do552V0
Jerry Lee Lewis and Keith Richards!

althespook (a.k.a. AK) is our resident expert on the missing nukes: http://ratiocinatonsofasavageh…..clear.html

Other than Al’s stuff, here is the best I’ve found: http://www.cdi.org/friendlyver…..cument.cfm

The prospect of a loose nuke in the hands of evil-doers (possibly folks who’d consider themselves to be on “our side) scares the shit out of me.

mr brat just popped in to report SNL is worth watching so I bid you all niters & thanks for such a memorable late late at da lake. *poof*

Margot @ 193

Sometimes, we just have to Shake It…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CT96do552V0
Jerry Lee Lewis and Keith Richards!

And Margot, sometimes you have to go easier (some of us hope to sleep tonight).
Neil Finn.

{splash}
{surfaces, shaking water from hair, surf board in hand}

Howdy, Firepups! I’ve been busy writing up this afternoon’s Health Care Forum with Dennis Kucinich.

Now to catch up on the comments.

Bob in HI

wigwam @ 188

Loo Hoo. @ 30

Kirk, great comment/term paper at 318 last thread. If you didn’t see it, pups, go on back!

Loo Hoo, thanks for the tip.

And my commendations to Kirk.

Yeah, that’s a good one.

Bob in HI

Hi Bob. Quiet tonight. Fall comes early and everyone is ready for a long winter.

I found this story interesting. A wall divides Shiite and Sunni neighborhoods in Baghdad. Baghdad Residents Protest at Wall.

CTuttle @ 166

burnspbesq @ 162

Night, Betsy.

Dang, Burns, Notre Dame shut out in the Big House???

Yep. I saw the whole thing. They pretty much self-destructed. By far the most inept showing I’ve ever seen from ND.

Michigan is SO happy they don’t have to play a team with the spread offense for awhile. They also started a freshman QB who did well, being smart enough to hand off to RB Hart about 35 times. Hart gained 100 yards in the first half.

Bob in HI

Bob – if you’ve missed the day, make sure you see Jane’s mondo post from this afternoon. There were still comments coming in 90 minutes ago.

TeddySanFran @ 175

Loo Hoo. @ 157

Even Greenspan sees reality:

However, it is his view on the motive for the 2003 Iraq invasion that is likely to provoke the most controversy. “I am saddened that it is politically inconvenient to acknowledge what everyone knows: the Iraq war is largely about oil,” he says.

I, however, am saddened that Mr Andrea Mitchell didn’t say this when it might have fucking mattered. Can you imagine the impact of this statement if it had been made in January 2003? Not that it would have derailed the thing on its own, but it might have enabled other voices to be heard.

In addition, I’ll sadly suggest that this is a blatant attempted diversion/smokescreen re: his enablement of the mortgage mess and his failure to sell the ss privatization scam. His arrogance prevented his bailing in time and now it’s *way* too late to salvage his legacy.

So, who’s up at this hour? And what is going on? I see Greenspan is saying Iraq was all about oil?

Good article in the New Yorker about “preparing for defeat in Iraq,” BTW.

I have just had a great weekend of world-class Flamenco music and dance.

Good morning :)

Thought I was gone, but can’t get to sleep, so I’m back.

This is interesting. If the republicans can lose the Western Slope region of Colorado, maybe there is hope for us here in OC.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..id=topnews

burnspbesq @ 205

Thought I was gone, but can’t get to sleep, so I’m back.

This is interesting. If the republicans can lose the Western Slope region of Colorado, maybe there is hope for us here in OC.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..id=topnews

Good!

Good morning.

morning all
another take on the grapevine (parental warning for the gratuitous clockwork orange parody at the beginning)

SunnyNobility @ 202

TeddySanFran @ 175

I, however, am saddened that Mr Andrea Mitchell didn’t say this when it might have fucking mattered. Can you imagine the impact of this statement if it had been made in January 2003? Not that it would have derailed the thing on its own, but it might have enabled other voices to be heard.

In addition, I’ll sadly suggest that this is a blatant attempted diversion/smokescreen re: his enablement of the mortgage mess and his failure to sell the ss privatization scam. His arrogance prevented his bailing in time and now it’s *way* too late to salvage his legacy.

Good morning!
Nothing like the sight of caged rats eating their offspring.
History will not be any kinder to “Bubbles” Greenspan than it will be to Bush.

Good morning!

burnspbesq @ 205

Thought I was gone, but can’t get to sleep, so I’m back.

This is interesting. If the republicans can lose the Western Slope region of Colorado, maybe there is hope for us here in OC.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..id=topnews

A liberal is a conservative who just had a seismic survey conducted in his back yard.

Good morning Everybody,

In my ongoing concern for Bush’s buying the religious base, I bring you information on the ACLJ, Pat Robertson’s answer to the ACLU.

Jay Sekulow, counsel to ACLJ and other members put together the list for Supreme Court Nominees. They take credit for SCJ John Roberts:

[I]n recent years Sekulow has achieved a significant measure of political influence; he is consulted by the Bush administration on the choice of judges.

“He is, I think, more responsible than any other person for John Roberts being chief justice,” said Peter Irons, a constitutional scholar, civil liberties lawyer and author of the recently published “God On Trial: Dispatches From America’s Religious Battlefields.”

Sekulow said he was invited soon after President Bush took office to join what came to be called “the four horsemen.” The group, which also included former White House counsel C. Boyden Gray, Leonard Leo of the conservative Federalist Society for Law and Public Policy Studies and former Atty. Gen. Edwin Meese, was formed “to be a kind of outside counsel on the judicial nomination issues, particularly the Supreme Court,” Sekulow said.

It’s easy for some to assume that Bush’s nods to the religious right are a matter of lip service over substance. But on matters of Supreme Court nominees, for one, it is clear that the President did more than that.

From evangelism at the Pentagon to the selection of judicial appointments, it is increasingly obvious that the conservative Christian, Establishment-Clause-hating influence on our nation’s executive branch is in fact very real.

Read it all here, at Talk To Action, for yourself.

Hi egregious,

Congratulations on the new job!!!
Feel proud just knowin’ ya.

Oral s*x in a family newspaper:

David Broder does Lindsey Graham.

These people are beyond comprehension.
living in a not-so-parallel universe.

Good Morning!

Matt Bai is on CSPAN 1
on the progressive movement
and the Internet

Boston1775 @ 213

Hi egregious,

Congratulations on the new job!!!
Feel proud just knowin’ ya.

Thanks!

Here is a Rabbi’s view on Christian Zi*nism:

Those who call themselves Christian Zi*nists in this era do not simply PRAY for the return of the Christian Messiah. They have lobbied our government to actualize and hasten Armageddon, that prophesied battle that will presage the coming of the Messiah.

And they do it through their agitating for war with Iran.

One of the most prominent Christian Zi*nist groups these days is Christians United for Israel (CUFI). Its leader’s name is Pastor John Hagee, a charismatic preacher who has predicted that this ‘end-times’ battle of Armageddon will take place within a modern-day confrontation with Iran.

In the summer of 2006, during the Israel – Hezbollah war, Pastor Hagee and his organization – which claims to represent 50 million evangelical Christians in this country – lobbied our government against imposing a diplomatic solution during the early stages of the war. They were hoping that Israel and Hezbollah’s battles would eventually bring Syria and Iran actively into the fighting, thereby resulting in the Armageddon they seek.

Pastor Hagee advocates striking Iran also because of its animosity toward Israel, and because Iran is, in Hagee’s view, the spawning ground of radical Islam, an enemy to both Israel and the United States.

I have a comment that’s stuck. Can anyone free it?

Boston1775 @ 217

I have a comment that’s stuck. Can anyone free it?

Hell-o?

The Christian Zi*nists one?

Good morning, pups. Today in the NYT we have MoDo, Friedman and Rich. MoDo says Rudy is man enough to slap around Hillary. Mr. Friedman says the sad thing for America is that we have no Commander in Chief any more who can frame our real situation and options in Iraq. Mr. Rich says it’s time for the Democratic candidates to stop bickering about who has the fastest timeline for withdrawal from Iraq.

http://mgpaquin.wordpress.com/

The coffee and tea are ready, and I have blueberry muffins that just came out of the oven.

Boston 1775, sometimes the mods take a nap, but they’ll wake up and set your comment free in a bit, I’m sure. It’s happened to me sometimes, for reasons I can’t usually fathom. (I try to disguise my “spam filter” words!)

Testing: These are the words of Rabbi Biatch of Temple Beth El of Madison, Wisconsin. He is speaking about Christian Zi*nists:

Those who call themselves Christian Zi*nists in this era do not simply PRAY for the return of the Christian Messiah. They have lobbied our government to actualize and hasten Armageddon, that prophesied battle that will presage the coming of the Messiah.

And they do it through their agitating for war with Iran.

One of the most prominent Christian Zi*nist groups these days is Christians United for Israel (CUFI). Its leader’s name is Pastor John Hagee, a charismatic preacher who has predicted that this ‘end-times’ battle of Armageddon will take place within a modern-day confrontation with Iran.

In the summer of 2006, during the Israel – Hezbollah war, Pastor Hagee and his organization – which claims to represent 50 million evangelical Christians in this country – lobbied our government against imposing a diplomatic solution during the early stages of the war. They were hoping that Israel and Hezbollah’s battles would eventually bring Syria and Iran actively into the fighting, thereby resulting in the Armageddon they seek.

Pastor Hagee advocates striking Iran also because of its animosity toward Israel, and because Iran is, in Hagee’s view, the spawning ground of radical Islam, an enemy to both Israel and the United States.

——————-

His entire sermon

twȝk @ 219

The Christian Zi*nists one?

Hi tw3k, Yup, that’s the one. Now there’s two.

egregious….what new job? I’ve had allergies so bad that the computer screen is often too bright to look at, so I’ve obviously missed a lot. And congrats, regardless of what it is!

Re: BAI on CSPAN

The rightards are using that moveOn ad as the new litmus test, lol.

Boston 1775 — you’re right about Hagee. He’s a real nut cake. Glenn Greenwald had a good piece in Salon in July about him and his favorite Senator — Holy Joe Lieberman.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/g…..man_hagee/

It’s enough to make your hair stand on end.

New thread

Boston1775 @ 222

twȝk @ 219

The Christian Zi*nists one?

Hi tw3k, Yup, that’s the one. Now there’s two.

Hi Boston,

I have really hard time, not being insane, understanding these Armageddon chasers.

The Logic of Suicide Terrorism

Professor Robert Pape is one of the top experts on terrorism in our country. His study that terrorism is about occupation, not fundamentalism ties to the NIE report, CIA and military intelligence. If most experts agree than why do both Parties support having our military long term on Muslim soil?

AC-It’s the occupation, not the fundamentalism

Last month, Scott McConnell caught up with Associate Professor Robert Pape of the University of Chicago, whose book on suicide terrorism, Dying to Win, is beginning to receive wide notice. Pape has found that the most common American perceptions about who the terrorists are and what motivates them are off by a wide margin. In his office is the world’s largest database of information about suicide terrorists, rows and rows of manila folders containing articles and biographical snippets in dozens of languages compiled by Pape and teams of graduate students, a trove of data that has been sorted and analyzed and which underscores the great need for reappraising the Bush administration’s current strategy. Below are excerpts from a conversation with the man who knows more about suicide terrorists than any other American.

READ MORE

http://controlcongress.com/unc…..iraq-by-sa

twȝk @ 228

Boston1775 @ 222

Hi tw3k, Yup, that’s the one. Now there’s two.

Hi Boston,

I have really hard time, not being insane, understanding these Armageddon chasers.

50,000,000
to repeat:

that’s fifty million of them hastening World War III.

twȝk @ 228

Hi Boston,

I have really hard time, not being insane, understanding these Armageddon chasers.

Got a dear sister just like that, same reaction, it is impossible with terminal Dog inflicted folk

Deep in EPU land, but on the topic of the original post…I wrote a couple of posts about the accidental nuclear transport, and something about the odds of making mistakes. In short, I believe this was a mistake, not a war preparation.

The nuclear standdown is explicitly because of the mistransport last week. In fact, I would suggest that the fact they are having a procedural standdown over it is good news. Such things are expensive and troublesome; and people have already been relieved of command over it.

BigMitch @ 120

Gnome de Plume @ 117

I haven’t read the article or know anything about what she is proposing, but if her insurance scheme is tied to employers and jobs I will scream. I hope she is way past that by now. This will be interesting since she is the major recipient of the health insurance industry’s largesse.

DING DING DING

I can’t imagnine anything substantive on healthcare coming from Hillary Clinton. She had 8yrs. in her husband’s administration plus 6yrs as senator and now she is asking for another 8yrs as president, 23 yrs. in total to do something about healthcare…simply not fooling me.

“His study that terrorism is about occupation, not fundamentalism “

That certainly explains 9/11. The terrorists just knew we were going to occupy Iraq sometime in the future.

OOOOH! I saw the flight path of that nuke-carrying bomber on TV (This Week at War) Didn’t that AIR FORCE plane loaded with nukes fly directly over the ARMY base at Ft. Riley?

Which is, if I am not mistaken one of the biggest Army bases in the country?

Probably just a gross error, but what if it was more. Just for careless, wild-speculation purposes, it is almost as if the parallel nightmare universe we have lived through the past 7 years just changed back to the original one, where Gore would have been president if the parallel universe had not imposed itself.

If it had continued along it’s evil parallel course, the Bush version might have produced intra-military “accident” that would have guaranteed martial law for a decade.

Hey, call it fiction if you want. And if you tell me I’m paranoid, I will thank you for the compliment. With the neocons, when they tell you you’re paranoid, they are probably out to get you.

“going well” means the country scraped thru another week without going visibly bankrupt or having the entire top tier under indictment,

Umm, but Egregious? I’m thinking having the entire top tier of the government under indictment would be part of a good week.

carolyn urban @ 236

“going well” means the country scraped thru another week without going visibly bankrupt or having the entire top tier under indictment,

Umm, but Egregious? I’m thinking having the entire top tier of the government under indictment would be part of a good week.

Excellent point. Just dreaming of the day when the government is not run by criminals.

radiofreewill @ 108

WASHINGTON, Sept. 15 — Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton on Monday will lay out a plan to secure health insurance for all Americans while severely limiting the ability of insurers to deny coverage or charge higher premiums to people with chronic illnesses and other medical problems, her aides and advisers say.

Clinton’s purpose, they said, is not only to cover the 47 million people who are uninsured but to improve the quality of health care and make insurance more affordable for those who already have it.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09…..on.html?hp

I’ll be interested to see what mechanism she uses to control costs, so we don’t all go broke.

Right now there are cities across America which are having trouble funding basic services, including police, because health care insurance for their employees is getting more and more expensive.

If there’s no competition which controls prices in the health care industry then price control has to be an essential part of any plan that will be successful.