Keith Olbermann’s coverage (video here) of the commemoration of 9/11 reminded us of what might have been, had we had genuine leaders that fateful day.
On September 11, 2007, the nation should have been able to congratulate itself that the people who planned and organized the mass murders of US citizens six years earlier had been brought to justice. Instead, we saw videos of al Qaeda’s leaders taunting us and threatening to attack again.
We should have been able to point with pride to an exemplary system of justice set up to bring the 9/11 perpetrators to justice. Instead, we have been shamed by policies that authorized torture, kidnapping, and rendition; shamed by Abu Ghraib, by Guantanamo, and by the Military Commissions Act; and shamed by the fact that not one of the Administration lawyers who approved these shameful practices was ever fired, disciplined or disbarred — though all should have been.
The nation should have been able to focus its mourning exclusively on the 3,000 Americans people who were murdered that day, but instead we now mourn another 3770 3776 (and still counting) additional dead Americans plus nearly 28,000 wounded, plus tens/hundreds of thousands of Iraqi casualties — men, women and children killed, wounded or brutalized in an unnecessary war because our dishonest President and his crazed Vice President chose to fabricate a linkage between the leaders of Iraq and the perpetrators of 9/11 while hyping the dangers of WMD that never existed. Not one person has been held accountable for these massive deceptions or the unspeakable suffering they caused.
Americans should have been assured that we had, through our courageous and principled response to 9/11, earned the decent respect for the opinions of mankind. We should have set the model for an enlightened approach that focused as much on discouraging the rise of religious extremism and its causes as on stopping those already committed to violence. Instead we find ourselves despised for our post-9/11 policies and blamed for the resurgence of al Qaeda and violent extremism that now confronts a dozen allies.
We should have been able to come together, united as a country and proud of having survived 9/11 with renewed honor and respect for each other, for the rule of law, for the freedoms that have attracted so many generations to our land. But instead we are deeply divided, our constitutional government under siege, our privacy rights routinely violated, and the rule of law disregarded by our Executive.
We were still in mourning on September 11, 2007, because we have an Administration that has wasted much of the last six years making things worse instead of redeeming our future. We still grieve, but the Bush/Cheney regime has managed to push the original 9/11 tragedy out of the top spot of the losses for which our nation grieves.
(Photo via Rolling Stone. Some great KO clips here as well. And thanks much to Christy for setting up the KO links and pic.)
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Scarecrow!
Mad Dogs @ 1
Good evening. Are the Englishmen here too?
nation of laws, indeed :/
Bush was fatally flawed president from the get-go.
Can you imagine how Gore would have handled this? He would have kept the country united. Bush immediately began the Rovian politicization of a tragedy. It was in their administration DNA, especially with Cheney as “#2″.
We were doomed the minute that Bush/Cheney bumper sticker was created…
Great post!
Amen.
It makes me FURIOUS to think about the cock-up this cock-up has made of the entire thing.
exquisite Scarecrow
From PBS NewsHour:
Our response:
talking to Sweden, distracted, still low numbers?
Awesome post, Scarecrow.
We didn’t even mourn anybody, not the first 3K not the second 3K because we were busy being “treated” to the dog’n’pony show of Petraeus.
Bah!
Brezinski — a very sad time and dangerous time for America — the President is not listening to the American people. … He’s decided to bequeath this war to his successor, to dribble out a slow withdrawal that will leave troops in Iraq for 3-5 years . . . while raising the risks of another war with Iran.
twȝk @ 3
Edited for the fun of it..)
SC, they are a wee bit south of us in Basra.
And so for the uninitiated:
Eureka Springs @ 13
You’re terrible :-)
Eureka Springs @ 13
still rings true!
I agree that we had exactly the wrong kinds of people in power on 9/11. We had people who saw an opportunity for exploitation and continue to exploit the tragedy as some kind of magic whammy word to get whatever they want from the American public. Bet Bush invokes 9/11 tonight.
No war declared
No storm had flared
No sudden bomb so cruel
Just a need for land
And a greedy hand
And a sign that said
“URBAN RENEWAL”
–In 1971, as tenants were moving onto the WTC, Photogapher Rick Stafford captured this unsigned verse taped to a chain link fence surrounding a vacant,rubble strewn lot.
Wonderful writing of such true should have beens . . .
I got home this afternoon, turned on tweety and heard about shrub’s plans to try to turn Iraq into S. Korea/Germany.
There is just one question I want every dim politician to ask when a camera is stuck in front of his/her face:
“Is he freakin’ crazy?”
Apologies, Scarecrow….got a lot of reading to catch up on but am so upset right now that I just can’t see straight.
Biggus Diggus @ 17
He’ll still be milking that one at the fantabolous freardom institute
A very speacil caw caw for this post. You never cease to amaze me. How great it would be to hear this from a presidential candidate.
This is what floors me. The complete lack of accountability surrounding the outright lies told by Bush for marching us into Iraq. And the fact that these gross fabrications resulting in tens of thousands of deaths only added up to impeachment not being on the table. And this coming from the Democratic ‘leadership’. Unbelievable.
Okay I didn’t break my TV set but don’t watch NewsHour.. Philip Zelikow is awful.. Iran, Iran,Iran.
Has anyone ever heard HRC or Obama call for an impeachment inquiry?
JPL @ 24
This is why I no longer watch that toob, but stay on these toobz ;-). The TV is strictly a DVD player these days…
Brian Williams Calls Out Petraeus on Al Qaeda Fearmongering
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..64260.html
WOW! Brian is about as MSM as you can get too!
I came across about 9 clips of a Bill Moyer’s special from 1987 – same old shizola, same cast:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..mp;search=
peanutbutter @ 26
Brzezenski made excellent points on our occupation in Iraq prevents Iraq from being a free country.
Scarecrow, You really are a master of the blog universe. Thank you so much.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 25
No
Cozumel @ 27
thanks, I’ll tune in the NBC nightly news tonight.
Your mine, yes you’re mine…
Delta Lady – Joe Cocker (Mad Dogs and Englishmen ‘70)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOz6Mt2t084
Scarecrow @ 8
Sooooo Right. Ours is the “mirror government.” When they say something, you have to hold up a mirror to read what is actually being said.
The Second Coming
~ William Butler Yeats
Millineryman @ 22
You know, what I’d really like to hear from our candidates tomorrow is not their critique of the Iraq plan per se, but rather a description of everything we won’t/can’t do betcause we’re spending $150 billion trying to make Bush/cheney’s mistake from getting worse — e.g., Bush thinks it’s too costly to spend money for the consumer product safety commission or for mine safety, or alternative energy development,, or another $50 billions to provide health care to most of the 9 million children without health care, and so. These are the other side of the costs of this war.
Contrast that “it’s too high a price to pay” with Boehner’s line that 30,000 US casualties in Iraq is “a small price to pay,” and so on.
As Brezinski says, Bush is dribbling this terrible war out. He has no intention of laying out a strategic vision because he doesn’t know how to do it. He can only smash and destroy. This is a colonial war in Iraq because we are telling the Iraqi people how to govern themselves. They will make that decision.
Iraq isn’t independent now so how can we keep it independent if it isn’t there. Bush is dumping Iraq in the lap of the next president after destroying it. Bresinski says we have to set a date for leaving and have a humanitarian program.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 25
I just googled up just in case but no, didn’t find anything on either of them.
Did find this: The Case for Impeachment: Okay…it’s time which was fun reading. Well, “fun”…you know…
Elliott @ 32
I think that was last night?
QuakerGirl @ 37
Yes but Law Prof Douchawitz has said you are NOT to trust Bresinski. Listen up now. :-}
QuakerGirl @ 37
Sounds like Kucinich.
Scarecrow @ 39
o.
john in sacramento @ 35
Yeats would have made a terrific blogger.
Scarecrow @ 36
Yes, that would make an impression on people: the description (and it needs to be vivid) of what we could have been doing these last several years, including the stuff we promised to Afghanistan.
Ah, so the network anchors were at the White House for lunch today
Imagine there’s no countries
It isn’t hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace…
Imagine – John Lennon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEOkxRLzBf0
Excellent post.
Bush was whining about the Betray-Us ad.
an outrage!
Scarecrow @ 36
That reasoning is why I continue to read FDL while news is so disheartening. There is always a productive and creative vision to engage here.
Timmeh on Brian Williams now talking about how pissed GWB was about the MoveOn.org ad about General Betray-Us.
You’d think he’d have more important things to worry about.
Richmond @ 40
To Douchawitz I say, Yeah-summm, massa, yeah-summm. Ahas knows ma place. I’ll listen to you like a good girl ; )
Bush’s Generals Betray-US
Scarecrow_36
I agree 100%. Tie the two together to get a full scope of how horrendous of a failure of Bush’s leadership has been.
Thank you for putting this out there, and driving the message.
Oh I suspect the Democrats (Reid, etc.) will say something profound and harsh tomorrow about the Bush speech tonight. Something along the lines of “unacceptable” perhaps?
here’s what’s just impossible to accept about the attack on 9/11
1) the president was hand delivered precise inteligence informing him of an attack sure to come
so exacting, everyone’s hair was on fire, so exact, they knew when (within months), where, (new york and washington), what (political and financial structures), how (highjacking airliners)
yet they did nothing
2) a similar warning was given to the previous adminsitration who put this nation on high alert and the catastrophy was averted, this successful template was ignored
3) our defense system watched commercial airliners do u turns in the sky for 45 minutes and did not follow their protocol
4) our president was informed we were under attack and he thought the best place for him to be was in a grade school reading my pet goat
5) the cia did not think the president was in any danger even though the president’s itinery was public record and even though they knew airliners were headed for political targets
6) the president knew the attack came from afghanistan, we had a response already planned for just such an occasion and he did nothing
7) the president wanted to attack Iraq for what came from afghanistan
8) the president knew bin laden was cornered and ordered the captors to stand down
so what is everyone missing here?
if this were in a movie everoyne would say the public would not be so stupid as to believe the president was not a party to this event
jayt @ 50
It’s the BIG PRINT. He can read big print. Or, maybe
Laurasomeone read the big print to him. He didn’t reeeead the ad.Someone needs to tell Bush that Gen. Betray-US’s fellow officers gave him that nick name.
What a D Bag Little Boots is.
Elliott @ 48
Shows how much of a liar Bush is; He has never read the Times. Jerk that he is.
This is good to see: Dems are making an issue over Boehner’s comment that all our casualties in Iraq have been a “small price to pay.”
Walked out this morning
Don’t believe what I saw
A hundred billion bottles
Washed up on the shore
Seems I’m not alone at being alone
A hundred billion casatways
Looking for a home
Message in a Bottle – The Police
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ip7ML8gltJg
Elliott @ 32
when CentCom Chief Fallon, who is petreaus’s boss says Petraeus Is ‘An Ass-Kissing, Little Chickensh*t, ‘I Hate People Like That’ and goes on to say we need to get out of Iraq immediately, congress better get him on the stand pronto
Leaked practice video of Duhhhbya’s speech tonight
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Yic-bQuKXrE
OK, kidding, but this is what he really means
“3,000 Americans who were murdered that day”
Actually, no. Only 2200 or so Americans were killed that day. The rest were from other countries.
Why is it so important to Americans to believe that it was much worse than it really was? What do they gain by this? Why are they lying? The only reason I can think of is that they want a reason to go and kill and bomb a bunch of non-white people. If anyone has any other justifications I’d like to hear them.
Scarecrow @ 59
I sent Boehner an e-mail saying “how dare you?” It won’t matter – he will never see it, but it made me feel better. I truly am outraged over this jackass saying something like that.
Scarecrow @ 59
but somehow, I think if a Dem said that, the MSM would be all over it.
Elliott @ 65
Or a MoveON type of ad. (not that they would..I’m just sayin’)
My Fellow Americans! Next stop – Crazy Town at 9pm!
Crazy Train – Ozzy (Randy Rhodes tribute)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hwq3nNHyPI
“3,000 Americans who were murdered that day”
Actually, no. Only 2200 or so Americans were killed that day. The rest were from other countries.
You’re right. I changed the post. Thanks.
Eureka Springs @ 66
yeah, not that they would.. )
I’m even more supportive of the MoveOn ad now that little boy bush was stomping his feet and having a temper tantrum.
This is so true Scarecrow. Our poor country has been destroyed, and not by Islamic terrorists. But thugs and criminals who’ve stolen the Presidency, dismantled our Constitution, and are raping and pillaging for as much power and money as they can stuff into their greedy piggish fists. Goddamn their black hearts.
Eureka Springs @ 66
In Boston, the Repubs are making an issue of a speech by the new Dem Governor, who on Tuesday mentioned how heinous the 9/11 crime was, but also added that it also reflected an inability of humans to understand/communicate with each other. The Repubs took that in isolation and made a Rovian attack on him for being soft on al Qaeda.
There is nothing Dems are allowed to say, other than “we should kill all those extremist Muslims” that won’t attract the “you’re soft on
communismterrorism” charge from the Repubs.QuakerGirl @ 56
I’ve been impressed with how badly the Republicans have handled this. The MSM are doing their damnedest to bury this story, and Republicans keep bringing up it back up. The reason they’re pissed is that “Betray Us” is going to stick, and they know it. Their best play would have been to just ignore it and thus minimize the damage. But they just can’t let it go, and that’s keeping the story alive. The MSM are doing their best to avoid pointing out that the nickname came from the troops in Iraq, because they know that when the public learns this, it’s going to be a PR catastrophe, and President Pissypants is going to accuse the media of treason and losing the war and who knows what else. The media really want to avoid this story at all costs, and the Republicans just keep putting it back in the news. Should be a fun weekend.
Scarecrow @ 72
you’re strike out sums up the Republican Party these days.
A “stratigic and enduring relationship” with Iraq, is what Bush will say tonight. An ongoing U.S. military presence in the heart of Arabia.
Elliott @ 74
***
Reminds me of Garrison Keillor’s great line about a Lutheran church who once fired a pastor because he was “soft on Catholicism.”
JPL @ 24
Thanks for the warning. The NewsHour just came on here. It is like the media have been hit by an infectious disease that has turned them all into brainless zombies who can only parrot WH talking points.
My party will in end the roll over and capitulate.
FWIW, I have been able to squash any neo nut on other blogs with the following three points about the MoveOn ad.
It was framed as a question.
Word has it the term Betrayus started with the troops. Support that, I say.
Petraeus himself said the ad is free speech and that is what they are all serving to protect and defend.
Millineryman @ 70
I thought it was a good idea from the beginning. I don’t understand the folks who say that it’s distracting from “the facts” or “the truth” or “the real story”. We all knew that Iraq was a mess, and we all knew that Patraeus was going to say that things were getting better, but the next six months would be critical. It was the same story six months ago, and six months before that, and six months before that. Frankly, I’m glad that moveon has shaken up the narrative. And I’m also glad that John Boehner has made far more of a dumbass statement than moveon ever could.
Scarecrow @ 72
Sounds like a great reason to start just ignoring the bastards and doing the right thing.
Our friend Egypt.
An Egyptian court has sentenced four newspaper editors to one year in prison with labour for defaming Hosni Mubarak, Egypt’s president, and his son Gamal, court sources said.
CD @ 76
That is a great line. Reminds me (in a sad way) about the Opus Dei college students teaching catechism to my 7 year daughter who told her she needed to give up all her non-Catholic friends, and should avoid other non-Catholics (alas, me for example). We quit organized religion soon after. It was also the time of the priest abuse cover-up – a double whammy.
Great and significant post, Scarecrow, thank you for reminding us of the nation we might have been.
Millineryman @ 70
I sent a pittance to MoveOn today here.
So, what’s the FDL drinking game for Junja’s speech tonite? One sip for each time he sez Petraeus; a shot every time he sez nine-eleven? Chug when he sez Anbar; refill yer glass if he mentions Sheik Sattar, who was car-bombed while Petraeus testified yesterday?
PS
You all know that John Edwards has purchased two minutes on MSNBC directly after Bush’s speech, right?
Excerpts from Jack Reeds Response to Bush
TeddySanFran @ 84
What happens when he mentions Iran?
Oklahoma kiddo @ 82
Another exciting Fascist Father-n-Son.
So, what’s the FDL drinking game for Junja’s speech tonite? One sip for each time he sez Petraeus; a shot every time he sez nine-eleven? Chug when he sez Anbar; refill yer glass if he mentions Sheik Sattar, who was car-bombed while Petraeus testified yesterday?
I plan to gobble one M&M for every time he says al Qaeda. Need to run down to the store and get a couple extra bags.
Hugh @ 86
Long Island Iced Koolaids?
Hugh @ 86
Anyone want to bet that he fucks up and says “Betray Us”?
Frank Probst @ 90
lmao, no!
U.S. troops hold 23,600 Iraqis almost all of them without trial.
But the U.S. is not the only authority with the right to jail Iraqis. Iraqi armed forces and police can also imprison Iraqis without trail and informed sources say there are more than 82,000 Iraqis in government jails.
re: the pre-game warm up-
I sorta remember some talk about John Amato (C&L) hosting for AirAmerica in the 8-9 pm slot there (this eve), but have been unable to find further details.
No AA radio waves here, so I will see if I can listen online via the “listen online” link at the AA site:
http://www.airamerica.com/
If anyone has more definitive info, please add.
twȝk @ 91
LOL!
Teddy_84
Thanks for the heads up about Edwards and his response. I’m very excited by this move on his part. It fits with some of the other moves he’s made to run in his own terms.
Richmond @ 83
There’s your problem. Opus Dei are the xtian fundies of Catholics.
Title for Bush speech:
Jihad enough?
twȝk @ 91
Oh, I’m expecting him to say that.
What else can Bush do except roll out his best ‘Strict Daddy’ routine tonight and blame everyone else?
The Goopers cower over getting tagged with certain labels – ‘Gay’ strikes mortal fear into many of them – but ‘Loser’ is amongst the worst they fear.
Even the Goopers can see for themselves that Iraq is ‘Lost’ so far as Bush being the Deciderer goes – even the rank and file Goopers can see that’s a fantasy.
It’s going to be a real horrorshow when the sheep start realizing for themselves that Bush’s Ideology has carried him over the rainbow of denial.
But, first, he’s got to blame US for all the shortcomings of the Surge! We’re selling him out – just like Vietnam! If only we stay longer, we can capitalize on the gains we’ve only recently begun to hear about possibly being made!
Cozumel @ 94
The way he tawlks (junyior), uh, I don’t think we’ll be able to tell whether he is saying Petraeus or Betray Us. Like, seriously.
Elliott @ 98
I had the same thought as Frank. Little Boots is just too malapropistic.
OTOH, if he doesn’t slip up on and say Betrayus, then we know the rest of ‘em are manufactured? Hrm. Hard to say… *thinks*
Eureka Springs @ 97
“How Low Can (My Approvals) Go?”
TSF at #84
Sounds like a great game, Teddy. Problem is we’ll all be blasted 2 minutes in. One has to get half way there just to listen to the Chimpenfurher
Millineryman @ 85
so Jack Reed gives the response, hmmm
Eureka Springs @ 97
Outstanding !!!!!!!
Elliott @ 98
OMG, he just has to. Too funny. It really is a brilliant nickname. I hear it every time someone says the name.
Frank Probst @ 90
OPEC, APEC, Austria, Australia, Petraus, Betray Us
The third time could be the charm.
foulis @ 103
If you want to do a drinking game with this, stick to 3.2 beer. Anything stronger is a suicide attempt.
I think Bush will make a few small vague concessions/promises this evening. Not that he will intend to keep any of them but the media will cling to these promises as if they were an absolute certainty.
~~~Senator Jack Reed of Rhode Island will deliver the official Democratic response. Rep. Silvestre Reyes will deliver the Dem response in Spanish. I can’t quite figure out if it’s going to be the same as Reed’s speech, just translated, but we’ll see.~~~
from http://www.airamerica.com/ current front page.
I know one thing for sure,
I am not listening to that slack jawed mother f*cker.
I am not watching either.
I cannot stand that damn smirk he gets on his face and I cannot stand the sound of his voice either.
I’ll find out tomorrow what his latest nefarious shit for plans are.
Yeah, how long is this speechifying? I’ll either get hammered in the first few (with the shots) or gain 50lbs in the first few (with the M&Ms).
Hmmmm. Mebbe I’ll pet my dog for each Petraeus, ear scritches for each Al Qaeda, and a full on belly rub for every 9/11.
She’ll be a happy pooch ;-)
I’m not about to watch that nit-wit tonight.
peanutbutter @ 112
Guess I should have specified the ones with the peanuts. Sorry.
Bustednuckles @ 111
That’s easy. He has no plan. There was never a plan. The only thing Bush can accomplish tonight is to convince more people that he has absolutely no idea what he’s doing and absolutely none of the sense needed to do anything else.
Bustednuckles @ 111
I plan to do the same, Busted. Call me a wimp, but that’s my plan.
Valley Girl @ 110
I’m not especially fond of Reyes but I bet it’s his own speech he’ll give.
Scarecrow @ 114
Oh that’ll take care of the crowd with peanut allergies :-D
Bustednuckles @ 111
sometimes you have to close your eyes and think of The Constitution
Ahh, no plans to listen either.
But it will essentially be liveblogged here ;-)
Elliott @ 117
Either way, it’s smart to follow up the recent debate in Spanish with a national comment in Spanish.
Elliott @ 119
*spew*
Elliott @ 119
sometimes you have to close your eyes and think of The Constitution
lol!
Elliott, I am going to have to borrow that..)
Instead of looking at Bush tonight we are going to watch “Weeds” and “Californication”. At least we’ll get some laughs.
peanutbutter @ 122
We could post quotes from the Constitution, Declaration, and Jefferson, Madison, et al.
peanutbutter @ 120
Can’t wait to see how many people across the country watched. I imagine that Glorious Leader will not attract a large crowd.
have you jihad enough
Thats a good one.
I think I’ll just get blind drunk instead.
Sometimes it’s for the best when you can’t remember the next day.
Twain @ 127
Make ya wonder if he’ll be the first president to be discontinued by the MSM for lack of ratings.
Eureka Springs @ 124
please do.
Senate website has excerpts from Jack Reed’s expected response.
Bustednuckles @ 129
busted, just don’t do that, m’k? Save for the really really bad days. This is kinda ordinary, in the BushCo regime spectrum.
Scarecrow @ 126
We the People!
hi y’all
SnarKassandra @ 135
Hi! No bouncing? Hope you’re feeling better…
Hi, Cassie. How many FDL pups online now plan on watching the pres. Speak up.. not me.
peanutbutter @ 136
Sleep helped. and a shower. and more orange juice.
Bustednuckles @ 111
I’m with you Busted. Fucking miscreant, I haven’t been able to stomach listening to him for years. Every time I see that him sni*ger I want to smack him upside the head.
not me JPL
JPL @ 137
busted @ 111 summed up my feelings.
New thread: “The Terror Dream”
Jane has a new thread ready.
BTW crude oil prices today
Nymex Crude Future $80.09
Dated Brent Spot $77.94
WTI Cushing Spot $80.09
The slight bump up today may be related to Humberto. What makes up these numbers are the base production price and profit margin, an instability premium (Middle East, Nigeria, Venezuela, etc), a recalibration in pricing due to the weak dollar, some market related speculative pressure, some shifting into commodities (after the subprime disaster), and a specific trigger (a relatively mild hurricane). At the moment, only about half the price is related to anything to do with crude oil.
scarecrow,
i haven’t read the comments yet, i will, but each 9-11 that passes i continue to think, what if it would have been a timothy mcveigh that did it? we would have moved on….people have……..even though it was an organized attack…..counted our losses, told ourselves that it was a one time kinda thing, and moved on from it, like a tragedy that happens to a neighbor, you feel sympathy, but no real involvement….i rented a car to go to canada right after the oklahoma attack and it had oklahoma license plates, i felt like a target, all of the people assuming i was from there, overwhelmed me…..or like the unibomber, affected thousands of people, but pooh-poohed into being nothing but a crazy man……….but let it be a limited foreign organized thing and we attack another country because of it………blows my gourd……….
it was a specific group…….and should have attacked that specific group…….i don’t get it…….
that’s what i think of it all……….we were dealing with a limited organized group of finatics, just like them, the us people, we should have isolated them, just like we did them, and attacked them in an isolated manner……..and moved on……….we now have a movement of organized finatics because of the blanket attack approach……….how did they not see that????????
i may not have worded this right, sorry if it gets lost in the translation trying to keep it short……….
Scarecrow @ 132
The big lie is not about to be acknowledged by Dems, is it?
LOL!
JPL @ 137
Maybe I’ll read the commentary here…but I think watching would be bad for my blood pressure. Besides, learning anything new by watching Bush yammer is impossible by definition.
EvilDrPuma @ 108
Hi EDP,
This is probably EPU’d but I live in Canukistan so 3.2 beer to us is equivalent to soda pop. I’m going straight to the 18 year old Scotch.
foulis @ 148
Actually, that was kind of my point….
28,000 U.S. soldiers wounded?
I bet this number is actually twice this number, if not more.
You see, the Bush administration spins everything, as we all know by now.
This 28,000 figure, if even close to being accurate, only refers to U.S. soldiers so severely injured that they had to be airlifted out of Iraq to some hospital in Europe, usually to the hospital at Landstuhl AFB in Germany.
The Bush administration and compliant U.S. generals in Iraq do not count the wounds of U.S. soldiers which are not life-threatening and require only field dressing inside Iraq. The Bush administration “statisticians” do not count these wounds, because the injured U.S. soldier was able to return to duty in a short time.
And what about our wounded soldiers who’ve been emergency airlifted out of Iraq to primarily Landstuhl AFB in Germany?
I saw a German newspaper article (online) several years ago that reported that a group of people were keeping a watch on Landstuhl AFB’s hospital receiving, recording the number of wounded U.S. soldiers arriving from Iraq, whether injured in action or otherwise. And the number they reported as having arrived from Iraq for treatment? Approximately 28,500.
This number, 28,500, showed up at the same time that the Bush administration and Rumsfeld’s Pentagon were reporting that only about 6,000 U.S. soldiers had been wounded in Iraq.
The only answer to this discrepancy is that the Bush administration is playing with the numbers, “fixing” the numbers downward to downplay the actual number of our soldiers wounded, just as they’ve been playing with the numbers involving Iraqi citizens who’ve died since Bush started this God-forsaken war in March 2003, which presently stands at over one million as calculated by a group of British physicians.
And, of course, all this “fixing” of the casualty numbers has been done to keep from the 29 percenters in the U.S. population who rabidly back Bush the true horror of what Bush, Cheney and a bunch of crazed neo-con Republicans have done not only to our military, but to the Iraqi population.
“War criminals” is the only fitting description for all the Republicans responsible for all the death and destruction wrought by Bush.
“3776 (and still counting)…”
If only the American death total were this small! More attention needs to be paid to the over 400 killed in Afghanistan, the other war Bush is losing. Remember Afghanistan, the place from which Osama Ben Forgotten launched the 9/11 attacks…?
Eureka Springs @ 41
Realizing the reality is important and even some Republicans can do that.
The opinion of what we should then do varies widely according to political stripe. A Warner or Specter would act very differently than a Kucinich or any of the other Dem candidates.
That’s where I think Brzezinski is in a fix: Obama’s plan isn’t quite right.
Sure, there will be a staged withdrawal. No question about that. The question is how fast and what we do as we’re leaving and how many we retain in country to guard the embassy & staff or to do other things.
I suggest we need a bit of flexibility in shaping the actual steps as we go, but with a determination to getting out very soon. Each candidate is a little different on that. YMMV
Scarecrow @ 72
I wonder if they’re just preparing to attack any black candidate for president or to label any Dem from Massachussetts a bleeding heart Liberal AQ sympathizer. They’re so predictable!
Republicans believe that regardless of where someone comes from, if they’re a Dem presidential candidate they’re a bleeding heart Liberal commie sympathizer and a Massachussetts Liberal.
But, just as Jimmy Carter got hammered for pointing out that not everything Israel does is pure and good and just, now they attack someone who says we humans should communicate and try to understand one another. Radical stuff for Republicans to hear. Heaven forbid they hear some DFH say stuff about “peace, love and understanding”. It might kill the poor darlings. They’re so sensitive ya know.
One of our biggest problems in American politics is that Republicans are terribly dissatisfied with how things sort out and they don’t feel like talking about it. I think many Dems would be open to listening, even to severe grievances. But, instead, the Repubs subvert the Constitution, lie to the public, execute policies which endanger the Union and in general make pigs of themselves. What is up with that?
The hippies *were* right and still are and the Republicans …just…can’t…stand it.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 75
Perpetual rape?