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		<title>By: pk</title>
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		<dc:creator>pk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 07:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I have to say CT got my vote for ‘Stupidest State’ when they re-elected Joe L. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Replacing Florida on my list took some doing.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Way to go guys. Showed a lot of foresight.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say CT got my vote for ‘Stupidest State’ when they re-elected Joe L. </p>
<p>Replacing Florida on my list took some doing.</p>
<p>Way to go guys. Showed a lot of foresight.</p>
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		<title>By: wesgpc</title>
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		<dc:creator>wesgpc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 02:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;thanks to hugh and other commenters who gave the scoop on the McConnell FISA lie fiasco.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks to hugh and other commenters who gave the scoop on the McConnell FISA lie fiasco.</p>
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		<title>By: ec1009</title>
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		<dc:creator>ec1009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 23:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ned should run against Lieberboy Christopher Shays.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ned should run against Lieberboy Christopher Shays.</p>
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		<title>By: Pansycritter</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/13/ned-would-wipe-the-floor-with-holy-joe-today/#comment-964226</link>
		<dc:creator>Pansycritter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 22:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;A New Yorker that financially supported Ned Lamont. GOP Joe has got to go. GOP Joe needed to go but the Repug Leaders pushed him and the Repug Lemmings went along as they always do. Sorry, Connecticut. Maybe next time. We tried.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A New Yorker that financially supported Ned Lamont. GOP Joe has got to go. GOP Joe needed to go but the Repug Leaders pushed him and the Repug Lemmings went along as they always do. Sorry, Connecticut. Maybe next time. We tried.</p>
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		<title>By: Glen Tomkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glen Tomkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 22:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Discrediting incumbency&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One only hopes that these results signify a more general discontent with incumbents.  The voters of CT pretty clearly preferred Lamont’s policies last November, but not quite by enough to overcome Lieberman’s incumbency advantage.  As of the date this poll was taken, the voters of CT would seem to have now seen enough to overcome that incumbency effect.  It would be wonderful if incumbency were to become a disadvantage, a mark of shame creating the presumption of responsibility for the last six years that incumbents would be forced to refute before their outraged constituents would even consider sending them back to Congress.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Only if this is true more widely in the country do we have a decent chance to get rid of enough Republicans and Blue Dogs that the next Congress will be able to initiate real change.  What we have now is only sufficient to prevent some types of fresh awful.  To reverse some of the backlog of the last six years of awful, we will need heftier, more ideologically solid, majorities.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Discrediting incumbency</p>
<p>One only hopes that these results signify a more general discontent with incumbents.  The voters of CT pretty clearly preferred Lamont’s policies last November, but not quite by enough to overcome Lieberman’s incumbency advantage.  As of the date this poll was taken, the voters of CT would seem to have now seen enough to overcome that incumbency effect.  It would be wonderful if incumbency were to become a disadvantage, a mark of shame creating the presumption of responsibility for the last six years that incumbents would be forced to refute before their outraged constituents would even consider sending them back to Congress.</p>
<p>Only if this is true more widely in the country do we have a decent chance to get rid of enough Republicans and Blue Dogs that the next Congress will be able to initiate real change.  What we have now is only sufficient to prevent some types of fresh awful.  To reverse some of the backlog of the last six years of awful, we will need heftier, more ideologically solid, majorities.</p>
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		<title>By: MargaretPOA</title>
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		<dc:creator>MargaretPOA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 22:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What possible difference could it make. The Connecticut Republicans along with a significant number of deluded Democrats have inflicted Holy Joe upon us and barring his sudden death, we are stuck with him for another five years, four months and three days… Thanks.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What possible difference could it make. The Connecticut Republicans along with a significant number of deluded Democrats have inflicted Holy Joe upon us and barring his sudden death, we are stuck with him for another five years, four months and three days… Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: NorskeFlamethrower</title>
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		<dc:creator>NorskeFlamethrower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 21:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;1,597 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN GOEZ ON AND ON AND..&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sporkovat:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A “populist majority” exists in every  politic, the key for the progressives and the “liberals” is to recognize  the issues that motivate the majority of folks and NOT let the oligarchy split any segments off.  The fact that the Democratic Party is controlled by shills for the fascists is NOT an arguement for further isolating common folks by abandoning the Democratic Party…that path leads right to the “reeducation camps” and permanent war.  Fight, organize take back the people’s party even if it means losin an election.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For God’s Sake…wake up!!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1,597 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN GOEZ ON AND ON AND..</p>
<p>Sporkovat:</p>
<p>A “populist majority” exists in every  politic, the key for the progressives and the “liberals” is to recognize  the issues that motivate the majority of folks and NOT let the oligarchy split any segments off.  The fact that the Democratic Party is controlled by shills for the fascists is NOT an arguement for further isolating common folks by abandoning the Democratic Party…that path leads right to the “reeducation camps” and permanent war.  Fight, organize take back the people’s party even if it means losin an election.</p>
<p>For God’s Sake…wake up!!</p>
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		<title>By: Roberto Eder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roberto Eder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 21:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I blame Ned Lamont for running a crappy general campaign against Joe after Ned won the primary.  Instead of continuing to press the anti-Iraq war theme, Ned decided to branch out into other issues.  That was a big mistake.  Now thanks to Ned’s taking his eye off Iraq, we have Lieberman for five more years.  Thanks Ned.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I blame Ned Lamont for running a crappy general campaign against Joe after Ned won the primary.  Instead of continuing to press the anti-Iraq war theme, Ned decided to branch out into other issues.  That was a big mistake.  Now thanks to Ned’s taking his eye off Iraq, we have Lieberman for five more years.  Thanks Ned.</p>
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		<title>By: ralphbon</title>
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		<dc:creator>ralphbon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 21:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Brendan –&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I will defend — to &lt;strike&gt;the death&lt;/strike&gt; er, moderate discomfort — your right to use whatever word you want to describe the Democrats’ collective simpering acquiescence to mendacious, belligerent chest-puffery.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brendan –</p>
<p>I will defend — to <strike>the death</strike> er, moderate discomfort — your right to use whatever word you want to describe the Democrats’ collective simpering acquiescence to mendacious, belligerent chest-puffery.</p>
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		<title>By: peanutbutter</title>
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		<dc:creator>peanutbutter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 21:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’m not convinced market place competitions and such is the holy grail of perfection.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Or we would have seen this long ago.  The existence of cartels is the logical outcome of competition (the best one wins).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So what you need to do is maintain capitalism/competition in an ongoing unstable (no one ultimately wins) state.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And that’s very difficult to do, really.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m not convinced market place competitions and such is the holy grail of perfection.</p>
<p>Or we would have seen this long ago.  The existence of cartels is the logical outcome of competition (the best one wins).</p>
<p>So what you need to do is maintain capitalism/competition in an ongoing unstable (no one ultimately wins) state.</p>
<p>And that’s very difficult to do, really.</p>
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