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		<title>By: SB_Gypsy</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/13/closing-down-their-casino-of-human-lives/#comment-966083</link>
		<dc:creator>SB_Gypsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 14:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Every day I email Pelosi and Reid, and tell them:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“No timetable, no funding. No excuses.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Because it’s the right thing to do”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;every morning.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Oh how I would love to have an email-o-thon, where every progressive blogger gets 10 people besides themselves to email congress and the president, and advise the idjits and fools as to how we should go forward.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every day I email Pelosi and Reid, and tell them:</p>
<p>“No timetable, no funding. No excuses.</p>
<p>Because it’s the right thing to do”</p>
<p>every morning.</p>
<p>Oh how I would love to have an email-o-thon, where every progressive blogger gets 10 people besides themselves to email congress and the president, and advise the idjits and fools as to how we should go forward.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/13/closing-down-their-casino-of-human-lives/#comment-965460</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 04:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-964084&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Oklahoma kiddo @ 62&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;And what will the reaction be tonight and tomorrow from the Democrats on the Bush speech later this evening?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As for me, I don’t much care what Bush says. His actions must be monitored, but his words are pretty much irrelevant. We (including Congress and bloggers) are executing a policy in response (though some people are late in coming to realize it).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What else is there except to get rid of Bush &amp; Co as fast as we legally can? They’re a disaster and are hurting everyone.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<blockquote><p>And what will the reaction be tonight and tomorrow from the Democrats on the Bush speech later this evening?</p>
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<p>As for me, I don’t much care what Bush says. His actions must be monitored, but his words are pretty much irrelevant. We (including Congress and bloggers) are executing a policy in response (though some people are late in coming to realize it).</p>
<p>What else is there except to get rid of Bush &amp; Co as fast as we legally can? They’re a disaster and are hurting everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/13/closing-down-their-casino-of-human-lives/#comment-965442</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 04:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-964067&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;toby martin @ 45&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Bush’s personal mantra, as revealed in a campaign interview in 1999 or 2000, is “The bigger the risk, the bigger the reward.”  If the risk pays off, he takes all the credit.  If the risk doesn’t pay off, someone else has always done the paying and the dying.  No wonder he’s such an eager risk-taker.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That’s the logic of someone who has NEVER won and is willing to risk anything to finally get that ONE win he needs to feel good about himself, to feel he’s not really cursed.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But, does the win ever come? Not in Junya’s case. L!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<blockquote><p>Bush’s personal mantra, as revealed in a campaign interview in 1999 or 2000, is “The bigger the risk, the bigger the reward.”  If the risk pays off, he takes all the credit.  If the risk doesn’t pay off, someone else has always done the paying and the dying.  No wonder he’s such an eager risk-taker.</p>
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<p>That’s the logic of someone who has NEVER won and is willing to risk anything to finally get that ONE win he needs to feel good about himself, to feel he’s not really cursed.</p>
<p>But, does the win ever come? Not in Junya’s case. L!</p>
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		<title>By: CantankerousDave</title>
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		<dc:creator>CantankerousDave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 01:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Wrong analogy. I think a much more apt one would be a spoiled little brat playing “war” with a batch of those green plastic army men. He blows some up with firecrackers, microwaves some, throws some in a woodchipper, making “Heh heh heh!” noises all the while. Then, when he runs low, he stomps his feet and screams, “Gimme more! I want more! I’m the decider!” And instead of taking his toys away, spanking him, and sending him to his room without dinner, our spineless leaders cave in to the shrieking brat every time.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wrong analogy. I think a much more apt one would be a spoiled little brat playing “war” with a batch of those green plastic army men. He blows some up with firecrackers, microwaves some, throws some in a woodchipper, making “Heh heh heh!” noises all the while. Then, when he runs low, he stomps his feet and screams, “Gimme more! I want more! I’m the decider!” And instead of taking his toys away, spanking him, and sending him to his room without dinner, our spineless leaders cave in to the shrieking brat every time.</p>
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		<title>By: Alecia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alecia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 00:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I found these lines which sums up the whole week.  “Petraeus knows this: virtually no Iraqi Sunni wants to hug him and kiss him. They want the US out. But he also knows the US simply cannot go - what with the new mega-embassy, the secluded military bases, and all that oil.” &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“The magic word “oil” mysteriously vanished from the whole drama performed this week in front of Congress. To get it, the answer is once again divide and rule - let’s have those Sunnis and Shi’ites tear each other to bits while we “stay the course” pretending to protect them from themselves while trying to protect “our” oil. Bush’s “surge” may indeed be a success - but for all the reasons the general would not dare tell the world.”‘&lt;br /&gt;
Asia Times says it best.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found these lines which sums up the whole week.  “Petraeus knows this: virtually no Iraqi Sunni wants to hug him and kiss him. They want the US out. But he also knows the US simply cannot go &#8211; what with the new mega-embassy, the secluded military bases, and all that oil.” </p>
<p>“The magic word “oil” mysteriously vanished from the whole drama performed this week in front of Congress. To get it, the answer is once again divide and rule &#8211; let’s have those Sunnis and Shi’ites tear each other to bits while we “stay the course” pretending to protect them from themselves while trying to protect “our” oil. Bush’s “surge” may indeed be a success &#8211; but for all the reasons the general would not dare tell the world.”‘<br />
Asia Times says it best.</p>
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		<title>By: dmac</title>
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		<dc:creator>dmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 22:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;margot at 96 says-”                                                   &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I called Sen. Sherrod Brown’s office yesterday, asking about his stand on getting out of Iraq.&lt;br /&gt;
 The staffer said he was for a staged withdrawal of troops.&lt;br /&gt;
 I told her that getting that many troops out would have to be done in stages just to accomplish it, but the point is to start right now, and to not fund anymore for the war, period. Otherwise we’re going to lose a lot more soldiers—plus seats in COngress, respect, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
 I just don’t know what to say anymore. People i think ‘get it’ evidently do not.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;yeah, and charlie wilson is with mr. schmooze boehner in iraq right now……so far his sound clips are pull out, but wait till mr. schmooze gets to him on the plane……..my parents live in boehnerville, he is famous for his golden tongue…….people who hate him vote for him anyway……..&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>margot at 96 says-”                                                   </p>
<p>I called Sen. Sherrod Brown’s office yesterday, asking about his stand on getting out of Iraq.<br />
 The staffer said he was for a staged withdrawal of troops.<br />
 I told her that getting that many troops out would have to be done in stages just to accomplish it, but the point is to start right now, and to not fund anymore for the war, period. Otherwise we’re going to lose a lot more soldiers—plus seats in COngress, respect, etc.<br />
 I just don’t know what to say anymore. People i think ‘get it’ evidently do not.”</p>
<p>yeah, and charlie wilson is with mr. schmooze boehner in iraq right now……so far his sound clips are pull out, but wait till mr. schmooze gets to him on the plane……..my parents live in boehnerville, he is famous for his golden tongue…….people who hate him vote for him anyway……..</p>
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		<title>By: Fern</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 22:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-964126&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Cozumel @ 98&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;So Bush has allegedly said if the Webb Amendment passes, no problem. He’ll make up the deployments with the Guard and Reserves&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How much of this would it take before there started to be some kind of pushback from soldiers?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-964126"><em>Cozumel @ 98</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>So Bush has allegedly said if the Webb Amendment passes, no problem. He’ll make up the deployments with the Guard and Reserves</p>
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<p>How much of this would it take before there started to be some kind of pushback from soldiers?</p>
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		<title>By: dmac</title>
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		<dc:creator>dmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 22:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;go ccmask!!!!!!!!!!!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;you know, people saw it, you know they did…………that’s what matters.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>go ccmask!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>you know, people saw it, you know they did…………that’s what matters.</p>
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		<title>By: LS</title>
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		<dc:creator>LS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 22:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-964028&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Mad Dogs @ 14&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;In the NY Times article I mentioned above, Sen. Dick Durbin of Illinois says, “We have the public behind us, but we don’t have the votes in the Senate.” &lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Seems we’re gonna have to remind these Democratic Congressional fools that they &lt;i&gt;do feckin’ indeed&lt;/i&gt; have the power to force Junya to obey.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And that power is the &lt;i&gt;power of the purse!&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I guess I’ll repeat my diatribe on just how to do it:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Bill Writing for Dummies &lt;strike&gt;Democrats&lt;/strike&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;or&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Stand up, you spineless, craven worms!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My take on how to write some decent Defense Authorization legislation that would force Junya’s hand on the Iraq War:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Defense Authorization bill…blahdee, blahdee, blah. Here’s the $50 to $150 billion you requested, &lt;b&gt;how-feckin’-ever&lt;/b&gt;,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Section Such and Such - Under no circumstances can &lt;b&gt;any&lt;/b&gt; of the monies provided in this legislation be used to transport troops &lt;b&gt;into&lt;/b&gt; the Iraq Theater of Operations (ITO) by air, land or sea, by any means what-so-ever. Funding in this bill is available for the &lt;b&gt;removal&lt;/b&gt; of troops from the ITO, but not for transport &lt;b&gt;into&lt;/b&gt; the ITO.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This bill explicitly prohibits &lt;b&gt;any&lt;/b&gt; troop transport into the ITO. &lt;b&gt;None! Nada! Zilch!&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The penalities for violating this law are:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A. If any member of the military should violate this law, that person shall:&lt;br /&gt;
	- be immediately dishonorably discharged from the military,&lt;br /&gt;
	- reduced in rank to Buck Private,&lt;br /&gt;
	- lose all government pension rights,&lt;br /&gt;
	- immediately be sentenced to 15 years at hard labor in Fort Leavenworth with absolutely no possibility of parole, pardon, nor reduction of sentence for any reason.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;B. If any civilian member of the executive branch, its departments and/or agencies in an appointive or Civil Service position violates this law, that person shall:&lt;br /&gt;
	- be immediately fired from the government,&lt;br /&gt;
	- lose all government pension rights,&lt;br /&gt;
	- immediately be sentenced to 25 years in a Federal penitentiary at hard labor with absolutely no possibility of parole, pardon, nor reduction of sentence for any reason,&lt;br /&gt;
	-and fined $10 million dollars.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;C. If any elected civilian member of the executive branch violates this law, that person shall:&lt;br /&gt;
	- be immediately impeached and removed from any position in government,&lt;br /&gt;
	- lose all government &lt;b&gt;and&lt;/b&gt; private pension rights,&lt;br /&gt;
	- immediately be sentenced to Life in a Federal penitentiary at hard labor with absolutely no possibility of parole, pardon, nor reduction of sentence for any reason,&lt;br /&gt;
	- and have all personal and family assets and monies stripped in accordance with the RICO statute and said assets and monies be used to feebly compensate all who have lost or have suffered grievous injuries to their loved ones.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;D. Should any person by action or inaction, challenge the legality of this legislation, the Majority Leaders of either the House or the Senate, as well as the Chairs of the Armed Services Committees shall have &lt;i&gt;all&lt;/i&gt; standing to pursue any challenge in Federal court.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Junya, sign right here_________________&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If you veto this bill, there ain’t gonna be another and &lt;b&gt;you&lt;/b&gt;, turkey, will have shutdown our military!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Great idea and feckin’ hilarious!!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-964028"><em>Mad Dogs @ 14</em></a></p>
<blockquote><blockquote>In the NY Times article I mentioned above, Sen. Dick Durbin of Illinois says, “We have the public behind us, but we don’t have the votes in the Senate.” </p></blockquote>
<p>Seems we’re gonna have to remind these Democratic Congressional fools that they <i>do feckin’ indeed</i> have the power to force Junya to obey.</p>
<p>And that power is the <i>power of the purse!</i></p>
<p>I guess I’ll repeat my diatribe on just how to do it:</p>
<p><b>Bill Writing for Dummies <strike>Democrats</strike></b></p>
<p>or</p>
<p>Stand up, you spineless, craven worms!</p>
<p>My take on how to write some decent Defense Authorization legislation that would force Junya’s hand on the Iraq War:</p>
<blockquote><p>Defense Authorization bill…blahdee, blahdee, blah. Here’s the $50 to $150 billion you requested, <b>how-feckin’-ever</b>,</p>
<p>Section Such and Such &#8211; Under no circumstances can <b>any</b> of the monies provided in this legislation be used to transport troops <b>into</b> the Iraq Theater of Operations (ITO) by air, land or sea, by any means what-so-ever. Funding in this bill is available for the <b>removal</b> of troops from the ITO, but not for transport <b>into</b> the ITO.</p>
<p>This bill explicitly prohibits <b>any</b> troop transport into the ITO. <b>None! Nada! Zilch!</b></p>
<p>The penalities for violating this law are:</p>
<p>A. If any member of the military should violate this law, that person shall:<br />
	- be immediately dishonorably discharged from the military,<br />
	- reduced in rank to Buck Private,<br />
	- lose all government pension rights,<br />
	- immediately be sentenced to 15 years at hard labor in Fort Leavenworth with absolutely no possibility of parole, pardon, nor reduction of sentence for any reason.</p>
<p>B. If any civilian member of the executive branch, its departments and/or agencies in an appointive or Civil Service position violates this law, that person shall:<br />
	- be immediately fired from the government,<br />
	- lose all government pension rights,<br />
	- immediately be sentenced to 25 years in a Federal penitentiary at hard labor with absolutely no possibility of parole, pardon, nor reduction of sentence for any reason,<br />
	-and fined $10 million dollars.</p>
<p>C. If any elected civilian member of the executive branch violates this law, that person shall:<br />
	- be immediately impeached and removed from any position in government,<br />
	- lose all government <b>and</b> private pension rights,<br />
	- immediately be sentenced to Life in a Federal penitentiary at hard labor with absolutely no possibility of parole, pardon, nor reduction of sentence for any reason,<br />
	- and have all personal and family assets and monies stripped in accordance with the RICO statute and said assets and monies be used to feebly compensate all who have lost or have suffered grievous injuries to their loved ones.</p>
<p>D. Should any person by action or inaction, challenge the legality of this legislation, the Majority Leaders of either the House or the Senate, as well as the Chairs of the Armed Services Committees shall have <i>all</i> standing to pursue any challenge in Federal court.</p>
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<p>Junya, sign right here_________________</p>
<p>If you veto this bill, there ain’t gonna be another and <b>you</b>, turkey, will have shutdown our military!</p>
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<p>Great idea and feckin’ hilarious!!</p>
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		<title>By: Twain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Twain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 22:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hey - somone forgot to notify downstairs and I’m way late.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey &#8211; somone forgot to notify downstairs and I’m way late.</p>
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