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Expect he'll say that Iraq is a lot like Korea, just a lot more Muslims. His insistance that the surge is a "success" (despite the bloodiest summer ever in Iraq) will be a tribute to the GOP's ability to fold, spindle and mutilate statistics in the face of even the most daunting reality. And despite the fact that 53% of Americans don't trust Petraeus' independence, Fearless Leader will laud him as a brilliant military strategist and take credit for bringing 30,000 troops home not because he's broken the military and that was always the plan but because he's a Real Man and a Big Winner.
Don't imagine we'll hear too much about Boehner's boner.
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2nd ; )
NO Way. Hi Jane!
Gawd, not that time…!!!
Gentleman, Pour your kool-aid.
I knew I should have gone to the movies. D’oh!
Nor will we hear about the Sheikh’s untimely demise…!!!
Eureka Springs @ 5
hehehe.
Since I won’t be watching him, I won’t have any more of an upset stomach than I’ve already had most of the day.
There’s got to be some old movie showing that I can watch for the 51 time that will be more enjoyable. Even if there isn’t one, I’ll still watch something other.
According to the TV guide from the paper, the last hour of Down Periscope is showing on WGN. That will work if nothing else can be found. Low expectations at all times in Bush World
Remember,
1 drink for every mention of terrorism
1 drink for every mention of Progress
1 drink for every mention of freedom
Chug for any reference to 9/11.
2 drinks for “generals on the ground”
1 drink for “security is improving”
Finish the drink if Iran is mentioned.
Hope everyone has plenty of Dramamine ready, the spin is going to be intense. I’m not sure how long I’ll be able to watch before my blood pressure begins to spike and I will be forced to turn off the telly.
no drinks for aKI?
dakine01 @ 9
But, Bra, you’d have to turn of the ‘puter, you know it’ll be mentioned once or twice…!!!
i was thinking i should watch/listen tonight… but there’s no fucking way i’m going to suffer through a bush “speech” without the moral support of some firepups… thanks to all for being here.
Phule @ 10
are you sure about that last one? I may as well make an arrangement for an ambulance now.
madmommy @ 11
hi madmommy — do what I’m doing: watch the U-MD/WV game!
Phule @ 10
You’ll be dead of alcohol poisioning within minutes!
Chris Matthews with a Special Comment on KO ; )
Not ready for this speech. Where are the bad eggs and rotten fruit when you need them?
Phule @ 10
We’ll all be snockered within 5 minutes!
I guess Chris Matthews isn’t interested in having a beer with bushy anymore. All of a sudden he isn’t so flip.
Eureka Springs @ 5
Something a tad stronger, here. This is going to be painful.
Cozumel @ 18
eww
bg @ 12
Wouldn’t want to pass out too early now would we? Wait a minute…what am I saying?
Phule @ 10
No way we can consume so much, in twenty minutes…!!! ;-)
LoudounLib @ 16
Just getting ready to flip-This Old House just ended.
Fear the turtle!
Tweety says the prez has the constitution behind him in order to do what he wants to do as CIC.
fwiw, I’m working on a piece looking at the War Powers Act to debunk arguments of that sort. I’ll (hopefully) have it up tomorrow at Barry Welsh’s site.
Hooked on phonics starts any minute now.
CM making the Lucy/Charlie Brown analogy on KO!
Will the Magic be gone?
Will Bush pull a Britney?
Chris Matthews admits the critics were right all along.
Phule @ 10
Jeez louise, are you trying to kill us all with this drinking game of yours???
TheOtherWA @ 20
It might make sense if we’re not sober.
Eureka Springs @ 28
LOL. Evelyn Woodhead Speech writing class dropout.
jayt @ 27
don’t forget to link for us!
Well, I guess my neighbors are going to listen to me repeating everything he says in THAT “tone” of voice, I can’t help myself. Cannot STAND to hear the sound of him flapping his lips. I have a special sound I make when JoeLie flaps his too. Criminey. Cannot take it. Torcha!!
CTuttle @ 13
Nah, that’s the good thing about it. When it’s a movie I’ve seen multiple times, I can pretty much ignore it and just have it as background noise and just look up every now and then. No real need to pay attention.
Phule @ 33
I don’t think there’s enough alcohol in the world for that to work.
radiofreewill @ 30
Whoa, there. That is not a mental image I need, bush in a glittery black bikini.
less than a minute to go
Phule @ 10
Gonna be shit-faced in the first five minutes.
yellowsnapdragon @ 39
You forgot the lack of underwear.
I didn’t know Reed was a paratrooper
I will be sitting in rush hour traffic while y’all are watching or listening.
Don’t think there’s much doubt who has the better of this deal.
The good thing is that when Bush goes on Tee Vee lately he just pisses people off even more
I’m so sick of this president playing to fake audiences and never having an open questions & answer session.
It will be worth it to listen.(MSNBC) John Edwards will be speaking for us, I believe.
christ - the first lie(s) didn’t take long.
Oh, boy, it’s about character. This is a lot like Cheney’s victory of the will.
I always like it when they turn on the cameras a few seconds early.
Phule @ 42
Argh! I’m still trying to get the pic from T-rex’s post the other night out of my mind, and now this?!?
Bush: We have to help those who threaten Iraq’s future.
ah, the beauty of a blank television screen……..
Bush: laying the groundwork, The fledging Iraqi democracy is under attack.
EPUd Re: whether filibuster applies to Reid’s handling of the funding request:
Hugh - I could be wrong (very common), but I think that there was a procedural rule amendment in the mid to late 90s that results in the reconcilliation process being applicable to any budget related matter if it is invoked. If that is true, then my point is that means that using the stand alone treatment really does, as pow wow said, significantly weaken the Democrat’s leverage. I guess that is not a shock out of Reid anymore…
Please, please, please make a mistake and say betrayus…please…
he looks nervous.
we are seizing the initiative from the enemy and winning in Iraq…
He neglected to mention that we attacked iraq in the first place, and that’s why it’s a freaking Civil War there
He’s securing Iraqi civilians by forcing them out of the country, that is if they survive that long.
Where in the hell has Cheney been anyway?
shouldn’t iraqis have something to say about what they need?
Gawd I hate drinking alone.
Hi Pups!
Bush: Our “success” is allowing us to bring some of our troops home.
Duh–didn’t they have to come home anyway?
do you think his ears are getting bigger?
No way is this live, is it?
we are surging diplomatic and economic resources, too. Anbar Province is a success for us…
Elliott @ 59
stop bringing up those pesky facts, please.
Hugh @ 60
LS @ 56
Hehe, give him time ; )
Elliott @ 43
West Point grad as I remember.
“My fullah Amerkins, I have come to realize the error of my ways. I have no option but to do the honorable thing - I hereby resign, along with the Vice president. God bless Amurkah.”
selise @ 62
Bush is the decider, selise
Since the surge is such a success, we’re going to start bringing some troops home. We’re diplomatically surging in areas where the military mission is done. Keeping pressure on the terrorists.
How long before he dials “9/11″?
First strawman sighting at about 2:30 in.
will he mention Sheik Kaboom?
or maybe his head is shrinking?
I love when Jon Stewart imitates him.
Has he dyed his hair??!!
Anbar citizens who once were beheaded are now coming forward to tell us where the bombs are…
neurophius @ 64
Yes, but that’s another of those pseky facts that get in the way of a good fantasy.
SteveW @ 77
ouch!
Anbar Anbar Anbar. Never mind that Anbar could have gotten better a lot sooner had the US military agreed to it. But of course, he can’t tell the truth.
Local Sunni leaders told me…yeah, well now the big one is D.E.A.D., probably because he met you!
Has he dyed his hair?
And his eyebrows, yes i daresay he has.
“Iraqis used to be afraid of coming forward because they might get killed, but now they tell us where the terrorists are.”
Really? Since when? Bush is sooo pathetic.
SteveW @ 79
*gasp* He did!!!
sangemon @ 80
Close, his hair died
Anbar shows all Iraqis the way…”Where al-Queda planted its flag…” Does al-Queda have a flag?
He mentions Abu Aardvark in passing…
Phule, you forgot “extremists”. Straight shot?
Anbar is temporary and fortuitous. It was not part of the “surge”.
Just tell me when it’s over. I do have to admit that I’m so impressed with the FDLer’s that can watch.
that sounded like Betray-Us to me!
His speech has a curious sing-song quality.
…now you can get 5 rugs for $5
hard to believe this is the leader of the free world.
And then they get killed by the enemy.
Progress!
The Texas accent is missing.
did he say “Taliban” in Anbar?
for many iraqis, the quality of life is far from where it should be.
… yeah, for 2 million it’s in syria or lebanon.
I hope he reminds the American people how much this all costs every week, in tax $.
Rockefeller & Russo details: http://www.agoracosmopolitan.c.....01774.html
Hmmm.
radiofreewill @ 81
He’s fluffing Anbar and won’t mention the assassination of the sheik leader. Success in Anbar will be replicated in other parts of the country. Well, it depends on what your definition of success is.
has he resorted to that ex-cess-ive e-nun-ci-a-tion yet?
neurophius @ 96
That happens sometimes when you mix the meds wrong.
Loo Hoo. @ 92
If you wish. It might make the pain go away.
neurophius @ 98
you’re right… it is strange…
Hugh @ 96
…but, he sent 4,000 marines, into al-anbar, to replace the departing ones(shh)!!!
Rigid teleprompter reading…no deviation, no free-style…he’s still stumbling over himself from time to time…
JPL @ 93
They are due some special rewards for their selfless efforts.
RonD @ 90
and Jesus wears an Armani suit
Joseph Goebbels..
twolf1 @ 97
lol!
Body count
neurophius @ 96
there once was a man from Nantucket
Tithonia @ 101
Hey you’re right. WTF??!
ccmask @ 52
Why?
Bob in HI
punaise @ 106
yes.
“As local politics change, so will national politics”
That makes NO sence
Kommmander Guy: “Iraqis who once joined the insurgency, now join the police.”
I think these Iraqis want the free weapons, paid for by US taxpayers, and supplied to them by General Betray-us. Then they will use these weapons to kill US soldiers.
Bush is talking about all the progress of the Iraqi government. The army is making progress. Progress, progress, progress. Happy, happy, happy.
twolf1 @ 97
And I’m just so sure that the blood will wash right out without affecting the colors.
Body count, I thought we were not doing that?
he’s very over-rehearsed - sounds like he’s not even listening to what he’s reading.
Holy shit. What a lying piece of garbage.
An Iraqi government that has decided to take on the extremists…I have made it clear thgat there must be a reconciliation. Letting Baathists collect pensions. Our troops are performing brilliantly. We’ve killed 1500 Iraqi fighters per month since January, but National Police still suck. Because of our amazing success, we will rotate out and not replace 2200 Marines, and a 5k men brigade by X-mas.
strategy in Iraq? what fucking strategy?
recoveringlurker @ 101
I think he said “Taliban like”
the next phase - another fantasy…..
Cozumel @ 121
Why should he start making sense now?
5,700 by Xmas??? WTF is that???
Hugh @ 123
Drinkie Drinkie Drinkie! :P
newtonusr @ 41
it’s “bottoms-up” reconciliation
Body counts!
1,500 bad guys killed per month!
Does anyone else around here remember Vietnam and the government “demonstrated success” by reporting to the nightly news how many Viet Cong had been killed that day?
Sure helped us in Vietnam, didn’t it?
Body counts.
Bleaghhhh.
OldCoastie @ 109
Differnt chemicals tonight, I gather. He looks like he’s had a facelift, maybe botox in the cheeks. Perhaps just a bit of tape is pulling back his jowls.
He’s still speaking as The Deciderer and saying we are making steady progress towards an over-watch position of the Iraqis(?)…
Hugh @ 123
Boy in a bubble.
Come, my friends.
Join me on the road to righteousness.
It is given unto us, at last….the power. The power, to just TURN HIM OFF.
The principles guiding me is.
So if Petraeus tells Bush to go pee-pee will he?
who is the enemy anyway?
Wow, another report next March.
Could we all just wait until then, please?
Any mention of Iran?
ccmask @ 66
Doesn’t look like it. Plus he’s bragging about al Anbar Province.
He wants a fresh assessment in March.
He wants “return on success” for the troops. When they’re successful they can return home!
“I have accepted General Petraeus’ recommendations.”
What a joke. Everyone knows he told Petraeus what to say.
Well, he IS The Decider, isn’t he?
JPL @ 145
Anxious to finish your drink?
punaise @ 106
Don’t have a clue (not watching) and neither does he.
awww. he’s trying to bring us together
oddmommy @ 142
If only!
“This support for a reduced American presence has the support of all Iraqi communities.”
I bet.
“Beyond my Presidency….”
right.
raven @ 141
fantasy and hallucinations?
What a sorry sack he is.
“Return on Success!” is his guidance for bringing home the Troops (can you say Stay the Course?)…
“the more successful we are on the ground, the more tropps will come home”.
This after saying that petraeus has called the Surge a success.
ooops - he just said that all of this success requires that we stay after the end of his presidency.
This speech is the worst ever. Lying SOB.
Exshtreeemishtshs….
and what, pray tell, is success?
could could could
RonD @ 90
Haven’t you seen it? It’s got a pic of Cheney on it wearing a turban.
If we were to be driven out of Iraq, Iran would be encouraged to get nukular weapons…
IRAN would benefit from the chaos..drink up pups!
Iraq IS in a nightmare NOW
The only police I want to see are the ones who frog march Bush, Cheney, Rice, Addington, and all of the other criminals out of OUR house! Damn them all!
food on my family
Al Qaeda would gain new recruits…..
OIL!
Sept. 11, 2001
I ordered Petraeus to report again in March. The more successful we are, the faster I’ll bring them home. Shit…”Commanders on the ground…”..(drink)…The Iraqis want a permanent relationship. A free Iraq will counter Iran, and be our partner in the fight against terror. Our diplomats think we can succeed. I think we can succeed. Iran wants nuclear weapons to dominate the region. Sep 11th, they want to kill us.
Bingo! 9/11 at 15 minutes.
OldCoastie @ 159
Doing the same thing and expecting different results?
“Extremists would be Embolden”
Democrats, I guess.
come together, right now
If we are driven out of Iraq, the enemy will be emboldened.
Yep. Like the majority of US citizens will be emboldened to rebuke his policies.
Anyone watch Keith and Timmi?
Was Timmi cynical before, or only when he is on Keith’s show?
Asking Congress now to drink the koolaid with him. Holy Joe must already be downing his.
Riverbend, a refugee in Syria now, must be spitting nails. If she’s listening.
“Iraq could be facing a humanitarian nightmare….”
Hello. That’s why she fled.
River, I am so, so sorry.
Bingo!
“September 11″
bobschacht @ 119
raven @ 172
here come old Flat-line
“the violent extremists who are targeting those in Iraq are also targeting you!”
wtf?
“every civilized nation”
Which are the other ones?
He’s rambling between lecturing and cheerleading…
radiofreewill @ 162
Of his many verbal tics that is the one that sets my teeth on edge. A fucking moron is our president. I’m so very, very proud.
Prof @ 174
He was jumpin ugly on various aplogists for this dope.
how do you go from leading missions to partnering on missions to “overwatching” missions?
supervise -> equal -> supervise?
yay! we’re never leaving!
Stand up with the people of iraq. success matters to every civilized nation. encourage all nations to help (except Iran).
Texas accent slowly creeping back. Pus dumpling. (h/t Trex)
To Iraqis - “Have no fear that we will abandon you.”
We won’t. Ever.
“36 nations on the ground in Iraq.” I want names
did anyone get a drinking game for this speech going and is anyone left standing?
punaise @ 180
he come oozing up slowly
Getting close to the end. This is the obligatory uplifting anecdote.
We thank the 36 nations who have troops on the ground in Iraq. Congress, both parties need to come together behind doing it my way. We are grateful for sacrifices of the troops. Families of dead soldiers love me.
Tithonia @ 189
he’s starting to tell the folksy stories…
Is it 1.20.09 yet?
Teleprompter must have failed. Checking his notes.
My Pet
soldierGoatWAR OF GOOD AND EVIL
Sports update Yankees, Blue Jay’s tied at 1. WV 14, Maryland 7.
“freedom is not free”
…but according to Boner, it’s pretty cheap.
i’m drucking fuck already
To the Military - the nation is greatful for your sacrifice. He’s pointing to the story of a fallen soldier. Not mentioning the 7 NCO’s though.
recoveringlurker @ 101
Yeah, something about “they had been ruling like the Taliban in Iraq”.
That’s how they started the Al Qaeda (in Iraq) program.
ick.
It’s never to late to admit you were WRONG!
What is the consensus as to what is the best teevee network to watch for the after-action reports?
CNN has John Edwards.
GOOD NIGHT
He received an email. It came in from the tubes. He didn’t know how to write back.
Good night is right, Mr. President.
It’s never too late to support our troops.
Prof @ 190
Hic!
Thank God that’s over.
What’s that’s it?
I thought the oath was to protect from all enemies …foreign and domestic! What the hell is the congress and the military waiting for? Arrest this idiot!!!!!!!!!!
17 min 20 sec of boosh blather
The tube is on, Bush is on the tube, I’m listening with one ear, and I’m still here.
How can I stand it, you ask?
It’s on Univision, broadcast in Spanish, and I don’t undrstand a word he’s saying and I don’t have to look at him — although he didn’t look too healthy the bit I saw.
Prof @ 190
See me @10
“We need more soldiers like Brandon, soldiers who…” (are DEAD, you asshole!!)
17 minutes, 20 seconds
It’s over
He didn’t use the Korea analogy did he?
I get soooo sick of the little personal anecdotes he likes to relate, “Tammy tells me Joe was ‘Just so tickled to give his life for you Mr. President’” Horse Shit!
We believe this is a war of good and evil and we must win… even if it costs the life of our son.
Preseident Bush reading the letter from a soldier’s family.
I don’t know who he quoted but the poor people are deluded.
Chris Matthews points out Boosh’s “circular argument.” We must fight the war in order to support the troops. But the troops are there because he says we must fight the war.
Good point, Tweety.
“Iraqis used to be afraid of coming forward because they might get killed, but now they tell us where the terrorists are.”
. . . because we torture it out of them.
twolf1 @ 200
Ouch!
1) Bush declares surge a success. Announces he’s beginning to bring troops home.
2) Democrats position on no funding without timetable compromised. Republicans and Media accuse Dems of being shrill.
3) War drags on with token troop withdrawls.
Speaking for myself, I’d rather listen to a dial tone.
RockPaperScizzors @ 191
“The 36 nations who had participated…” I know Figi and Tuavalu were two…!!! ;-)
Katie Couric follows George W Bush both former and current cheerleaders.
Timmeh forgot to drink his koolaid before the show and apparently the shrub didn’t give him a hardon tonight.
Oh come on. Jack Reed??
Believe me, Warren Beatty he ain’t.
Carole @ 213.
I’m with you all the way on that!
I can’t get that 17 minutes of my life back.
Man, Prez Boosh don’t read too well, do he?
Srry, correction: “What, that’s it?”
Hugh @ 19
Kooshballs will get the frustration out but leave you with a working teevee.
Laying a support the troops guilt trip on the public.
Same old, same old.
forgive him Father…..for he couldeth not find his own ass with both hands, a searchlight and a GPS unit.
may @ 191
he one spinal cracker
raven @ 172
Come together
Phule @ 216
How are you able to type straightly?
On other matters…. Jack Reed has two flags. Two mentions of his own Army service. (Can I mention mine?)
Reed up now. The President’s policies have made things worse. President failed to provide a plan that amounts to real change. We have a mission to send troops into clearly-defined missions. Iraq’s problems are political, not military. 9 months into the surge, Iraqi leaders are unlikely to reconcile.
He didn’t say betray us
Damn it!
Prof @ 208
Msnbc if you get it, KO and Tweety…!!!
Reed… Redefine our mission. GAAAAAAH!
oddmommy @ 236
*gigglesnorts*
Funny but sad and so very true.
sangemon @ 202
Aw, you must’ve cheated and started before Bin lyin-in-chief said go…;)
Oklahoma kiddo @ 226
A dial tone always sounds the same. So what’s the diff?
Sen. Jack Reed: “I have opposed the war in Iraq from the very beginning.”
I myself have also opposed the War in Iraq from the very beginning. Except, I do not know if it a war or genocide. Yes I do, IT IS GENOCIDE!
what the hell is Reed talking about?
Hugh @ 246
No, it’s more like a busy signal.
Yeah, profoundly change the mission…!!!
“I urge the Pres. to listen to the American people.” Uh-huh.
Sen. Reed is making the Dem response.
The Pres has failed to give us a strategy to win. Our military can defeat any enemy, but they are left without a mission more specific than do the same thing for another 9 months?
Dems say it’s time for a change. We are ready to rapidly and responsibly withdraw our folks, engage in real diplomacy and strengthen our counter-terrorism efforts.
An endless commitment in Iraq is irresponsible. We are stretched to the breaking point. We are ready to change the dynamic of this War in the Congress.
I know Bush’s latest fuck-up diplomacy effort with S. Korea made many more foes than friends abroad, but don’t we kinda/sorta have friends in S. Korea who like us? Where exactly is the equivalent space in Iraq?
Hugh @ 246
Exactly.
Jack Reed, that was pitiful!
Jack Reed says: umm, what the hell did he say?
An endless military mission in Iraq is not an option. We intend to change the nation’s policy in Iraq, to a new policy that honors the troops’ sacrifice.
I urge the President to listen to the American people…
Yeah, that’ll happen
CTuttle @ 250
Mission? There is no mission.
Dems blow the response… again!
OldCoastie @ 248
Nothing but a coddling of the whole big lie and a plan to save the GOP from all their failures.
oddmommy @ 238
You are in fine fettle tonight, ma’am!
OldCoastie @ 248
I couldn’t tell
sangemon @ 249
“the numb-nutz you have been trying to reach has been disconnected….from reality”
Prof @ 251
Me, I would like Congress to listen to the American people. Scr*w Bush.
punaise @ 237
he got toe jam eyeballs
hey, this is fun! A live blog with no rules!! Par-tay….
omg, i’ve jumped the comments, which i never do.
my brother gave his life in peacetime, in germany, no explanation was given, and none could have given my family peace………took my mom ten years to talk about it……..noone was allowed to mention my brothers name before that……it was hard………..
now, imagine, giving your loved one, in a way that makes no sense, and a president, he uses an example of of greiving family, using a lost one as an example, how horrific……my mother could never have been consoled by a person such as him……
he makes me so totally sick
radiofreewill @ 252
Talk is cheap Mr. Reed. Cut off the funding. Keep sending the same bill, make Chucklenuts veto it over and over again. Make the GOP choose between their idiot leader and their country. Grow a spine for the love of god!
I got as far as “now life is returning to normal (in Anbar)” !!!! and couldn’t take it any more. Also notice all the “business expressions” in the new rhetoric: “return on (investment aka ROI) success” and Boehner’s “small price to pay, small investment to make”. Disgusting!
And what hubris! We will stay in Iraq even when I am out of office. . . ha ha ha!
Notice that Tweety has slightly changed his tone about Petraeus - he’s no longer enraged at the General, but at Bush using a “noble” soldier to sell the policy.
I keep thinking of “High Noon” with the theme song Do not forsake me oh my darling and can’t help but mouthing the words “Do not betrayus oh my darling…” Read somewhere on these blogs that the pun on his name came from the troops when they found out their terms were lengthened to 15 months.
Hooray for Pelosi calling out Bush on his three card monte scheme to bring troops home in 2008 (they were already scheduled to come home).
Marilyn in San Antonio
GeorgeSimian @ 261
Sorry, I was merely quoting him…!!!
Timmeh: The fact that we have 36 countries fighting with us in Iraq must be news to our soldiers over there. It only opens [the Pres.] to ridicule.
Timmeh: (laughing at Keith’s quotation of Bush saying he consulted with everyone but listened to Gen. Petrayus) I find the whole thing constitutionally bizarre…
OK, back to Larry King.
dmac @ 268
(((dmac)))
nonplussed @ 262
thank you sir…..and so are we all! All in fine fettle!
dmac @ 268
I’m so sorry about your brother. May you and your family find peace.
Why did they put Reed out there like that. Reed is one of the biggest mealy-mouthed wimps in the entire Congress.
Why not Feingold or Kucinich?
no more no more
i’m sorry John
i’don’t know what came over me
it’s all that psychic backwash sloshing round in the ether
Wow, what’s come over Msnbc, KO, Rachel Maddow, Tweety(up in arms), etc…!!! 8-)
Marilyn In Texas @ 270
Yes, but will she use her position as Speaker to force the issue and fight this thing through?
sangemon @ 276
Because the DLC is a big bunch of mealy-mouthed wimps?
sangemon @ 276
military service?
OldCoastie @ 179
Yeah, and I know who the terrorists are, and they aren’t in Iraq, they are inside your suits.
I like that Rachel Maddow.
Why not Webb? He did so well last time.
Well, I guess they have to pass the goodies around.
Rachel Maddow is GREAT.
Larry King homing in on the ’stay in Iraq long after my presidency is over’ comment by Boosh.
Obama: Unacceptable. End the War now. Focus on Al Qaeda.
King: That’s what you want, but what do you actually see happening?
Obama: I’m working with my congressional collegues to change this policy. The problem isn’t Petraeus, it’s the mission he’s getting from Boosh.
sangemon @ 278
Because he was a former 82nd Airborne Inf. Capt., loves them medals…!!!
Tweety and Buchanan both are making sense tonight.
shorter shrub
bomb, bomb, bomb
bomb, bomb Iran
Prof @ 239
Very small glasses. ^_-
OldCoastie @ 283
I do too. She’s sharp.
I love Rachel Maddow.
Mauimom @ 284
Because he agree’s with Bush’s assessment of Vietnam.
So what is Rachel saying?
Maddow should have her own show on MSNBC and replace Clucker Tarlson.
Yeah, and I know who the terrorists are, and they aren’t in Iraq, they are inside your suits.
Are we talking about the “little soldier” again?
All the Dems have done is increased troop levels and increased war spending/borrowing.. Now Republican John Warner gets the only suggested withdrawal this war/occupation has seen.
This is beyond maddening. My party leaders are war criminals too.
Loo Hoo. @ 289
Ain’t it a sight to behold!!! :-)
Elliott @ 281
Webb? Conyers? Rangel? Murtha?
But you’re right. The Democratic party is still controlled by the Corporatists. SSDD.
jayt @ 295
Itsy, bitsy, soldier.
CTuttle @ 278
Maybe GE doesn’t want to look at a boycott?
Maddow said that being lectured by Bush about “some people trying to topple the Iraqi government is like being lectured about prostitution by David Vitter.” (that’s close anyway)
Looking at the Obermann/Matthews commentary. I hear a lot of talk from the Dems. But are they going to actually try to do something?
Bidn refering to Boosh - “I don’t know what in god’s name he’s talking about!”
20 minutes of nothing new.
other wa and elliot-
thanks so much…….hearing bush bring up families and how he espouses to feel for them makes me sick……….
Biden’s great over w/KO & Tweety, “I don’t know what in God’s name he’s talking about”. Classic.
Elliott @ 295
Not much yet, Tweety and Biden are communing!!!
Did I miss John Edwards?
Biden is on fire on MSNBC. SO nice to see coverage on tv that doesnt seem like an alternate universe.
More like being lectured on murder by Jack the Ripper.
yellowsnapdragon @ 290
Isnt she a Rhodes Scholar?
Maybe MSNBC is starting to figure out there is money to be made with Liberal TV. They noticed that KO has outdrawn O’Reilly lately…
Matthews making noises that Bush is living in some other world… “fantastic” - as in cartoonish.
Chris: Does he live in this world or just sell it?
radiofreewill @ 285
The problem very much is Petraeus along with Crocker, Bush, and Cheney. I wish these guys would not wimp out at the sight of a uniform.
solai @ 308
He hasn’t been up on MSNBC yet.
TheOtherWA @ 302
good one!
Matthews: “Biden, does the President live in this world?”
I think he did real good. He took a wide stance on AY-rak, and Ay-ran, no stalling, no footsy, just ram everybody…he’s so out of control. He looked like a chickensh*t tonight. Too chicken to face the music. Loser.
Tweety mentions the “elusive’ government of Iraq.
I think he should have said the “illusory” government of Iraq.
“We thank the 36 nations who have troops on the ground in Iraq and the many others who are helping that young democracy” GWB is a delusional ultramaroon.
Here’s the fantasyland transcript and video:
http://www.newsday.com/news/na.....0291.story
yellowsnapdragon @ 290
Isnt she a Rhodes Scholar?solai @ 308
No he’s up next
phred @ 305
Again, what’s he actually going to DO, though?
Damn, Huckabee’s up. Back to the land where everything is just ducky…
Huckabee says the surge is working! It’s not just coming for the president, it’s coming from his buds in Iraq!!!
oddmommy @ 236
lol!
Thank you. I needed that laugh.
Guiliani on King saying the Surge is working better than we could have hoped!
Rudy quotes Hillary on our goal in Iraq.
King: What is success?
Rudy: a society in which people can send their kids to school, people can live and work in freedom. Democracy’s develop from the ground up. The Dems want to retreat and run away. If you understand Islamic Terrorists, they capitalize on weakness. Give Petraeus a chance to succeed.
snowbird42 @ 311
I’m a Roads Scholar
BTW Webb was just on NPR. He called it kabuki. Good call, Senator.
No, not the Huckster…! ‘I want to take a different point of view…!!!’
TheOtherWA @ 302
And that it was bizarre of Bush to say that those in Amabar Prov no longer fear beheading if friendly with Americans. Since, now they fear being blown up if they leave their house.
Huckabee is such a punk.
RonD @ 316
I just got an email that he will do his 2 minutes at 9:53pm…
yellowsnapdragon @ 322
Nothing. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not a Biden fan, but got some good shots in and Tweety sat there agreeing with him. It was sweet.
WTF is Rudy talking about, “they killed more Americans in the 1990s when we were on defense?”
He better Duckabee.
solai @ 308
No, his paid announcement should be coming up soon. Can’t wait!
Huckabee. Yikes.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 331
He’s a creationist wacko preacher who thinks the earth is 6000 years old.
Says it all.
Mah feller ‘Murkins.
Remember last year when ah said ever-thing in Iraq was ducky in Eyerack?
Ah was lying.
But ahm tellin’ you the truth now. Everything is just ducky.
Operation Extended Stay today, tomorrow and forever.
-Commander Stuffed Codpiece
Jane Hamsher @ 335
Where is Rudy??
It’s not a religious war, Huck. It’s an oil war you idiot.
Rudy is in lock-step with the narrative. He’s really upset with the Move-On attack on the General’s integrity. He thinks the president gave an excellent speech this evening. He likes the term ‘Return on Success.’
Remember, Larry, this is only the beginning in a long war.
Jane Hamsher @ 334
Truthiness unleashed.
Huckabee - “We’re fighting a theological war”.
Oh hooray, the Crusades are back. Good times, those.
Al Kader also thrives on stupidity there Rudy.
-GSD
Jane Hamsher @ 334
Hi Jane!
Where is Rudy??
dmac @ 306
Did he attend that soldier’s funeral?
Oh, fine, so Huckabee apparently thinks we’re fighting the Crusades. “We’re fighting a theological war.” Blah, blah, blah. What a bunch of tools (I say in disgust and despair.)
And without money, no masses will be held.
Damn, y’all…I drive home and you explode on this post…300 comments in less than an hour?
I’m watching MSNBC - is the president getting trashed elsewhere?
Oklahoma kiddo @ 334
yup. too bad - while I know he is a kook, I didn’t think he was a liar… but he is too.
Marilyn In Texas @ 348
He has attended no funerals of the sacrifices to his ego.
Ann in AZ @ 348
I’m sure bin Laden will quote that in his next tape
Jane Hamsher @ 336
Are you serious? Pappy, in GWI, accounted for more Iraqi casualties than 911 or the initial WTC bombing!!!
brysynski sp? has been commenteing on pbs for a while now, i encourage all to look his comments up on pbs.org……….
How do you spell delusion?
B - U - S - H
Oh that’s right! He can’t spell!
OldCoastie @ 352
None of these motherfuckers are liars, they beleive thsi shit.
Bush is history. Everybody knows it; the Congress know it; the press know it; his staff know it? Guess who doesn’t know it?
They never, ever, ever intended to leave. We’ve been coup’d, and we must turn this Titanic around, now.
The insanity of it is not realizing this.
Speaking for myself I’d like to see Rudy win the nomination.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 331
I agree, but I still say he’s the best they’ve got; certainly better than Rudy, Frederick, Mitt, Brownback or Duncan.
Breaking News:
John Boehner announces a return on success for his small priced investment.
-GSD
OldCoastie @ 352
lies,lies and double standards?
jayt @ 351
Well, let’s see. I’ll check Fox.
jayt @ 352
I don’t know and I hope I’m not missing a good rudy toot trashing.
OldCoastie @ 352
I have a soft spot for ole Mikey. It’s hard to lose weight and keep it off. I at least respect him for that.
Edwards up!
And as fas as Boehner’s boner is concerned…
Ann in AZ @ 362
Damning with faint praise
Here is John Edwards speech.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/9/13/211722/520
but it will be up on MSNBC soon.
radiofreewill @ 327
Rudy doesn’t know his ass from his elbow.
sock puppet up.
jayt @ 27
My view is that the AUMF against Iraq was discharged on June 28, 2004 when Iraqi sovereignty was restored.
solai @ 366
If you’re not back in 5 minutes…
solai @ 366
!!Spew!!
I’m sure bin Laden will quote that in his next tape…
Oh yeah. If ya wanna make some friends in that part of the world, just bring up the Crusades. They just *love* that.
GSD @ 363
ouch
snowbird42 @ 372
Ooh, thank you…
GSD @ 365
Dayam, GSD, a little spew warning would be a civilized thang to do…!!! ;-)
Timmeh says Bush has the upper hand.
Edwards: The speech was a PR job! Has there been any significant reconciliation between the Shia and Sunni? No. That’s why we need to leave now. No one believes there will be stability in Iraq while we are there?
solai @ 367
Why? ; )
DICK CHENEY CONTROLS TIM RUSSERT
Mitch McConnell on NPR giving more evidence that he is a Bush pod person.
solai @ 368
No, Solai, don’t do it…!!!
I got the zedo
Fox News has Laura and the twins of for rebuttal.
-GSD
new thread
elliot-good for you girl!!!!!!!!!!
rhodes scholar!!!!!!!!!
Edwards: We’re policing a civil war in Iraq. We need a new strategy! The American people expect the congress to stand up to Bush! No funding without a date certain!
Whoops Link to new post
Bush’s speech was just begging for a Colbert-type split screen rebutting lie after lie after lie.
dmac @ 391
no, I said Roads Scholar!
sangemon @ 276
Do you mean Harry Reid?
Damned work - just arrived but no regrets I missed the codpiece commander live.
I LIKE that John Edwards.
I kinda hate Buchanan. Dude sucks. Wants to make it all about catfightin’ Democrats. Buchanan, OMG, venomous.
elliot at 395 says eloquently-”no, I said Roads Scholar!”
funny girl….those miles count….you crack me up……….
OldCoastie @ 98
Depends how you define leader. Or free world.
Since I have a tendency to be a wee bit negative at times..will try to do better. Liked bush’s make up the orange looks healthy. Somebody finally got the meds right so the eyes don’t squint and dart wildly. Face alert ..not dissipated. I would say 2 days sober. All in all affect good…content gets a F. Factualy ridiculous. Tribal leaders fighting Al Qaeda. They weren’t there until the bombing and killing.
Ooops, our DNI made more false claims about the Patriot Act, the Republicans’ little baby of an excuse for tyranny which as now the whole world can see doesn’t even do the job the frops say it does.
http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/004177.php
All this torture. All this moronic illegal spying. And for what? So we can still have bin Ladin on the loose over six years after he singlehandedly committed a modern day Pearl Harbor on America? So we can be bogged down in a costly, bungled occupation in some two bit country for more than four years with no end in sight while we should be getting the guy who really attacked us? Enough already. It’s time for impeachment proceedings.
OldCoastie @ 98
He isn’t a leader.
We had Nancy for a while, but now the Blue Dogs have her down and they’re chewing on her pant leg.
We need somebody to help Nancy get back on top and we need somebody in the Senate who can beat up Republicans…if only for the fun of it.