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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/13/a-few-carrots/#comment-964975</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 01:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-963311&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;cleter @ 73&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;If you can’t trust an administration with the keys to the treasury, you can’t trust them with &lt;em&gt;anything&lt;/em&gt;. The answer to any request by this administration should be met with, “hey, where’s that nine billion dollars?” Like this:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Hey, I need 50 bil for my occupation.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“50? What did you do with the 9 bil from before? Do you have some receipts?” &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;or&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Confirm my new attorney general.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Confirm where that missing 9 billion went, and we’ll talk.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Why the Dems aren’t talking about that missing money all the time–damned lose and spend Republicans!–mystifies me.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Asking for “receipts”?  Ha, that’s a good one!  LOL&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Asking them to return the money would be priceless!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-963311"><em>cleter @ 73</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>If you can’t trust an administration with the keys to the treasury, you can’t trust them with <em>anything</em>. The answer to any request by this administration should be met with, “hey, where’s that nine billion dollars?” Like this:</p>
<p>“Hey, I need 50 bil for my occupation.”</p>
<p>“50? What did you do with the 9 bil from before? Do you have some receipts?” </p>
<p>or</p>
<p>“Confirm my new attorney general.”</p>
<p>“Confirm where that missing 9 billion went, and we’ll talk.”</p>
<p>Why the Dems aren’t talking about that missing money all the time–damned lose and spend Republicans!–mystifies me.</p>
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<p>Asking for “receipts”?  Ha, that’s a good one!  LOL</p>
<p>Asking them to return the money would be priceless!</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/13/a-few-carrots/#comment-964921</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 01:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-963268&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Kathleen @ 33&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;“at least 9 billion cannot be accounted for”  Impeach these killers and thieves.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’d say the criminals need to be caught and punished, but that paradigm just doesn’t seem to fit.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We need to spend a lot of time educating the public about what has happened and let the punishment be a combination of political banishment and traditional criminal punishment with requirement for them to return stolen monies (not that they would). Beyond that it’s gonna be hard to track down stolen monies that were in hard cash. Devaluing the dollar would be crazy since it’s already plummeting (now at the historical low relative to the Euro) and that would hurt Americans.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s a conundrum: how to punish someone (or the Bush mafia) without harming others.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-963268"><em>Kathleen @ 33</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>“at least 9 billion cannot be accounted for”  Impeach these killers and thieves.</p>
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<p>I’d say the criminals need to be caught and punished, but that paradigm just doesn’t seem to fit.</p>
<p>We need to spend a lot of time educating the public about what has happened and let the punishment be a combination of political banishment and traditional criminal punishment with requirement for them to return stolen monies (not that they would). Beyond that it’s gonna be hard to track down stolen monies that were in hard cash. Devaluing the dollar would be crazy since it’s already plummeting (now at the historical low relative to the Euro) and that would hurt Americans.</p>
<p>It’s a conundrum: how to punish someone (or the Bush mafia) without harming others.</p>
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		<title>By: angie</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/13/a-few-carrots/#comment-963782</link>
		<dc:creator>angie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 18:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Charlie Savage did a piece on “Here and Now” this morning.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.here-now.org/shows/2007/09/20070913_2.asp&quot;&gt;http://www.here-now.org/shows/.....0913_2.asp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He’d be great for book salon as would Mearsheimer and Walt.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;;)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charlie Savage did a piece on “Here and Now” this morning.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.here-now.org/shows/2007/09/20070913_2.asp">http://www.here-now.org/shows/&#8230;..0913_2.asp</a></p>
<p>He’d be great for book salon as would Mearsheimer and Walt.</p>
<p>;)</p>
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		<title>By: Diamond Jim</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/13/a-few-carrots/#comment-963452</link>
		<dc:creator>Diamond Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 14:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“If I wrote that [the story of the $12 billion] in a work of fiction, it would get tossed back over the transom as wholly unbelieveable.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;SPOLIER ALERT–actually no, the vicissitudes of the $12 billion constitute the underlying plot point of William Gibson’s new novel.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“If I wrote that [the story of the $12 billion] in a work of fiction, it would get tossed back over the transom as wholly unbelieveable.”</p>
<p>SPOLIER ALERT–actually no, the vicissitudes of the $12 billion constitute the underlying plot point of William Gibson’s new novel.</p>
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		<title>By: vieravisionary</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/13/a-few-carrots/#comment-963394</link>
		<dc:creator>vieravisionary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 14:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-963379&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;David W. Bartoo @ 124&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;vieravisionary @ 116&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the link. It would be interesting to have Fallon speak before Congress, Can you imagine that the msd’s might THINK of that possibility? Petraeus even suggested it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think that if Fallon speaks before Congress, it will be a memorable event. This guy is no-nonsense (”Old School” is the term the military uses) and he is not interested in bombing everything in sight! Plus, he would truly stand up and speak his mind with a passion that has not been seen. I hope it happens, personally!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-963379"><em>David W. Bartoo @ 124</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>vieravisionary @ 116</p>
<p>Thanks for the link. It would be interesting to have Fallon speak before Congress, Can you imagine that the msd’s might THINK of that possibility? Petraeus even suggested it.</p>
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<p>I think that if Fallon speaks before Congress, it will be a memorable event. This guy is no-nonsense (”Old School” is the term the military uses) and he is not interested in bombing everything in sight! Plus, he would truly stand up and speak his mind with a passion that has not been seen. I hope it happens, personally!</p>
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		<title>By: David W. Bartoo</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/13/a-few-carrots/#comment-963379</link>
		<dc:creator>David W. Bartoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 13:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;vieravisionary @ 116&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the link. It would be interesting to have Fallon speak before Congress, Can you imagine that the msd’s might THINK of that possibility? Petraeus even suggested it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;JEP @ 119&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Well said. Hope your soulful appeal is heard (and heeded).&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>vieravisionary @ 116</p>
<p>Thanks for the link. It would be interesting to have Fallon speak before Congress, Can you imagine that the msd’s might THINK of that possibility? Petraeus even suggested it.</p>
<p>and</p>
<p>JEP @ 119</p>
<p>Well said. Hope your soulful appeal is heard (and heeded).</p>
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		<title>By: mui</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/13/a-few-carrots/#comment-963375</link>
		<dc:creator>mui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 13:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-963373&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;ccmask @ 122&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Mui:  When has a Bush speech not been to his base (except for his first inaugeration when he said he will bring dignity back to the wh)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That’s a hard question. If I find one speech, do I win a kitchen set?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-963373"><em>ccmask @ 122</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Mui:  When has a Bush speech not been to his base (except for his first inaugeration when he said he will bring dignity back to the wh)</p>
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<p>That’s a hard question. If I find one speech, do I win a kitchen set?</p>
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		<title>By: ccmask</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/13/a-few-carrots/#comment-963373</link>
		<dc:creator>ccmask</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 13:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Mui:  When has a Bush speech not been to his base (except for his first inaugeration when he said he will bring dignity back to the wh)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mui:  When has a Bush speech not been to his base (except for his first inaugeration when he said he will bring dignity back to the wh)</p>
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		<title>By: mui</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/13/a-few-carrots/#comment-963370</link>
		<dc:creator>mui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 13:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-963367&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;ccmask @ 118&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-963258&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;jayt @ 23&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-963253&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;ccmask @ 18&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yep - he’s locked up all day today - practicin’&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(which pisses me off for some reason)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m starting to wish the Republicans would send me to my room too.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Correction Chimpy’s speech is to the Repuglikan base. It just happens to be televised nationwide, so the rest of us can see the disguting spectacle.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-963367"><em>ccmask @ 118</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-963258"><em>jayt @ 23</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-963253"><em>ccmask @ 18</em></a><br />
<i></i></p>
<p>Yep &#8211; he’s locked up all day today &#8211; practicin’</p>
<p>(which pisses me off for some reason)</p>
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<p>I’m starting to wish the Republicans would send me to my room too.</p>
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<p>Correction Chimpy’s speech is to the Repuglikan base. It just happens to be televised nationwide, so the rest of us can see the disguting spectacle.</p>
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		<title>By: ccmask</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/13/a-few-carrots/#comment-963369</link>
		<dc:creator>ccmask</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 13:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-963349&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 109&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Raw Story: &lt;a href=&quot;http://rawstory.com//news/2007/White_House_expected_to_supply_new_0913.html&quot;&gt;White House expected to supply new emails in bribery probe &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;John Byrne&lt;br /&gt;
Published: Thursday September 13, 2007&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Investigators have asked the White House for more emails.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;According to the Capitol Hill newspaper Roll Call, House Government Oversight Committee Chairman Henry Waxman (D-CA) expects to receive emails and other documents from the White House regarding the Jack Abramoff bribery scandal in the next few days.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(snip)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I could really really use a new email dump today.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-963349"><em>Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 109</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Raw Story: <a href="http://rawstory.com//news/2007/White_House_expected_to_supply_new_0913.html">White House expected to supply new emails in bribery probe </a></p>
<blockquote><p>John Byrne<br />
Published: Thursday September 13, 2007</p>
<p>Investigators have asked the White House for more emails.</p>
<p>According to the Capitol Hill newspaper Roll Call, House Government Oversight Committee Chairman Henry Waxman (D-CA) expects to receive emails and other documents from the White House regarding the Jack Abramoff bribery scandal in the next few days.</p>
<p>(snip)</p>
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<p>I could really really use a new email dump today.</p>
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