I don’t know how many of you have been following the fortunes of Atlantic Monthly’s latest Ivy League Affirmative Action hire, Megan McArdle. She’s the blogger formerly known as Jane Galt, a Randian “Libertarian” whose musings on economic policy and the social safety net are so painfully vacuous and shallow that Paris Hilton would be ashamed to sign her name at the bottom. She makes Ana Marie Cox look like some kind of Girl Chomsky.
Once when we were in our twenties I asked my twin brother what exactly a Libertarian was. “A Republican who owns a bong,” was his highly informative response.
That explains a lot.
Most people go through an Ayn Rand phase. Generally somewhere in those dark years between A Catcher in the Rye and the onset of Still Life With Woodpecker. After Old Yeller, but before On the Road (basically, somewhere around one’s junior year of high school), many an American teen has tackled Atlas Shrugged and spent a couple of weeks spouting geysers of rhetorical dreck about self-determination and Teh Individual before some helpful older person takes them aside and explains that it’s awfully hard to enjoy your speedy new roadster when there’s no roads, which are paid for by taxes, etc, etc.
Unfortunately, that helpful older person never intervened in McArdle’s case. From her writing, it appears that she was dumped straight from her gilt-edged creche into some gold plated veal-pen of a preparatory school, from whence her parents’ money wafted her into the rarefied airs of the Ivy League, which summarily spat her into her current sinecure at the Atlantic. Presumably all without her ever scrubbing a toilet, waiting a table, or doing anything that would spoil her manicure or muss her boarding-school bob.
Somewhere along the way, some essential steps for an aspirant to The Writing Life were missed, however. The Good Roger Ailes pulled this paragraph from a recent McArdle post and reprinted it unretouched.
An upper middle class white kid who decides to become a journalist is consigning themselves to a lower standard of living than the one they grew up with; at one time I considered writing a book on downward mobility. But it’s not the same decision that a kid whose parents are a janitor and a waitress makes. Even if their parents don’t give them money, the upper-middle class kid know that if some financial disaster appears, their parents can step into alleviate it. Help with things like housing downpayments in expensive urban areas will be forthcoming. Eventually, a small inheritence will provide capital for needed projects. Meanwhile, an enhanced lifestyle is generally available through parental meals, vacation homes, theater tickets, and so forth.
Uh, remedial sentence structure, anyone? How about subject-verb agreement? Hello? Mind-numbingly stupid content aside, that has to be one of the most appallingly written paragraphs I’ve seen outside of the less-traveled backwaters of RedState.org.
And I am taking it as proof of a beneficent deity that Megan’s book on downward mobility never saw the light of day. Praise His holy name.
I would think it should be incumbent upon McArdle to be able to properly spell the word “inheritance”, don’t you? That would be the one word she ought to get right.
Sadly, no.
Speaking of whom, Gavin?
It looks like it was another fabulous blur of a Saturday night for Megan McArdle, with the watermelon martinis flowing like liquid family annuities. Because today we find the following:
We must force you to be free!
09 Sep 2007 02:56 pmScott Lemieux is blogging about Quebec’s refusal to let Muslim women vote with their face uncovered:
Um. Yeah.
Go ahead, Scott, kick the football.
I had no idea that Canada was forcing Muslim women to cover their faces before they vote. How shocking! How, uh, entirely untrue.
Nonetheless, she has been welcomed among blogging’s moneyed white boys as an adorably whimsical new arrival. This in spite of the fact that in post after post, she reveals that not only does she have nothing to say, but she’s incapable of saying it in anything above sixth grade prose.
It is the uncritical acceptance of well-connected mediocrities like McArdle that ensures that our national pundit class will enjoy their current state of befuddlement and irrelevance for generations to come. It’s also why magazines like Atlantic Monthly, TNR, and the National Review continue to decline in relevance and hemorrhage subscribers and readers.
But hey, as someone who writes for The New Media, it kind of makes me want to write Atlantic Monthly editor Andrew Golis a thank-you note for making sure that his magazine will continue to bring Teh Suck while Those of Us On The Outside will only grow in influence and credibility.
Thanks, Andrew. You shouldn’t have. You really, really shouldn’t have.
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heh
TRex!
2?
Zed before bed!
hiya trex. hi ccmask.
“Randian Libertarian (n.): see idiot.“
Single Digits for Demi?
TRex I hope you never analyze my writing in public like that. Ack!
Damn FF crashed
‘Once when we were in our twenties I asked my twin brother what exactly a Libertarian was. “A Republican who owns a bong,” was his highly informative response.’
Dang, TRex, you’re kin is mighty perceptive…!!!
SnarKassandra @ 5
hiya snarky! I got the big zedo!
From the Dept. of MSU.
Steve-AR @ 9
That Sux…!!!
SnarKassandra @ 8
Yours is already unimaginably better than McAddled’s.
ccmask @ 11
Happy Zed Day to you!
wangdangdoodle @ 12
Making Shit Up?
Hey TRex!
No, she doesn’t need to know how to spell it — just her parents.
EvilDrPuma @ 16
Yes, that department.
TRex,
A Robbins Fan?
I actually dreamt about Even Cowgirls Get The Blues the other night.
Know that one?
I was Bonanza Jelly Bean in a College Readers Theatre Version o’ that.
Ask me about the night we choreagraphed the Kiss Scene with Sissy…..
Shorter Megan: “Brain, meet addle.”
SnarKassandra @ 8
Oh, dearest, bear in mind that you are a GOOD writer with actual TALENT. This precludes you from being savaged by a rampaging TRex.
wangdangdoodle @ 19
Oh, good. I’m not missing something obvious….
Yep: about 50 yrs. ago I found The Fountainhead meant “be yourself”: I even changed my signature to the angularity of Howard Roarks’. There is something of his idealism in me still.
Mad Dogs @ 21
Head meet ass?
TRex @ 22
I am not a good writer yet, but thank you.
She did get one thing right, TRex:
She’s got the passive voice down pat — like it is woven into her very existence. “Help . . . will be forthcoming” pretty much sums it up.
Sid58 @ 24
No, no, no. The central message of all Ayn Rand’s work is “Be Ayn Rand.” You heretic, you.
EvilDrPuma @ 23
Well, didn’t want to offend any Michigan fans.
;)
You’re already a good writer. A few more years should be all it takes to turn you into a Great Writer.
*smooch*
well, I can’t write either but you don’t see me trying to make a living at it… but then, I’m not all that adept at lying.
TRex @ 30
hug hug!
(Not allowed to kiss adult therapods.)
SnarKassandra @ 26
Plus you know about the therapod’s weakness in regard to office products. Bribes are always helpful in lubricating human commerce. Mothers call them “treats”, governments call them “foreign aid”.
SnarKassandra @ 26
“I am not the Messiah!”
“Only the true Messiah would deny His divinity!”
“Well, where does that leave me? All right, I am the Messiah!”
“He is the Messiah!”
EvilDrPuma @ 34
Just don’t burn Teh Money.
“Even if their parents don’t give them money, the upper-middle class kid know that if some financial disaster appears, their parents can step into alleviate it. Help with things like housing downpayments in expensive urban areas will be forthcoming. Eventually, a small inheritence will provide capital for needed projects.”
(the grammar and the punctuation is not mine)
Is that what is most intimidating?
I’m kinda surprised Megan didn’t write
Perhaps her editor simply committed seppuku upon reaching that particular paragraph. It’s absolutely unreadable. I particularly liked
I decided today if it weren’t for fdl and Jon Stewart, I probably would have lost my mind by now…
wangdangdoodle @ 29
That MSU would be Michigan STATE University, not the University of Michigan. They win games against Div 1A teams at Michigan State.
(For the record: I went to Northwestern, but the best man at my wedding would be exceedingly upset with me if I let this go without comment.)
TRex @ 30
…kiss-ass…!!! ;-)
OldCoastie @ 38
You did. You just lost it in a socially productive manner, that’s all.
I’ve got lots of quarters.
I’ll pony up the first one.
TRex you got me hooked on jezebel..
TeddySanFran @ 37
Perhaps her editor simply committed seppuku upon reaching that particular paragraph. It’s absolutely unreadable. I particularly liked
Kinda makes you want to check the bottom of your shoe and see what’s stuck to it, doesn’t it?
OldCoastie @ 38
I’m over in the corner weaving baskets.
wangdangdoodle @ 29
Hey WDD! Actually, MSU would be Michigan State, Michigan is UM. To me, though, MSU is Mississippi State University. All in the perspective, I guess.
Peterr @ 39
Oh heck, did I screw that up? And I was born in MI!
EvilDrPuma @ 28
Jeez, I think Wittgenstein has a good message (have not seen his signature). I’d like to be Wittgenstein.
If she’s quoted correctly talking about the MoveOn ad, Madame Speaker is having a tough grammar day as well:
TeddySanFran @ 49
I would have preferred if they hadn’t done such an ad.
Peterr @ 39
Oooo, snap! Rumors are already flying that Les Miles will be bailing at LSU to take over at Michigan. Not that LSU is a serious contender for the national championship or anything.
Quick, TRex, fix “an thank you note.”
TeddySanFran @ 49
Nancy doesn’t know what people are calling her these days, does she?
For some reason i never picked up The Fountainhead or any of Rand’s works at school. I avoid them to this day.
their parents can step into alleviate it.
Did she mean her parents can step into something ending in IT?
EvilDrPuma
What Are they calling her these days?
EvilDrPuma @ 53
.
What? I’ve been out of the loop…
Sounds like Megan needs a copy of Eats, Shoots and Leaves.
I’m being called to shut down the computer.
G’nite, all!
Sid@58
Isn’t Wittgenstein a beery swine? *g*
demi @ 20
Love Robbins-let me also recommend Jitterbug Perfume.
hiya, demi!
Ya know, it’s people like this that make one appreciate Paris Hilton. At least she doesn’t pretend not to be a pampered rich kid whose idea of roughing it is an upper west side condo.
Some self destructive compulsion made me follow the links to megan’s blog and its “about” section. Now I feel just like I did on the bathroom floor 25 years ago after one of my college roommates challenged me to a drinking contest.
People like this make me ill. Really.
demi @ 56
“Quisling weasel queen.”
Peterr @ 39
Yeah, the neighborhoods in the town I grew up in where strictly divided amongst blue/gold and green/white.
Loo Hoo. @ 52
Oops. Heh. Thanks!
Hey, you need to send me your snail addy again. I wrote it down and now I can’t find it.
What about Montana State? I been their. ;-)
G’night, Peterr!
demi @ 20
Dear ghod, demi, are we going to hear about another dream? *G*
RonD @ 61
Yep.
I read Fountainhead when I was 17 or so; Rand writes so badly that the sex scene failed to arouse a highly testosterone-poisoned guy. McArdle is worse.
Jitterbug?
Peterr @ 59
Dang, Peterr, Nite!!!
masaccio @ 71
The hands that broke granite.
masaccio @ 71
There was a sex scene?
I must have already thrown the book across the room in disgust before that happened.
EvilDrPuma @ 64
Poor Nancy.
People are so mean to her.
She’s got a tough job.
Don’t know why, but I feel like defending her.
wangdangdoodle @ 57
Seems to be a communications breakdown…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiL1sjGIcew
hey, let’s give ol’ Paris a break here. She says she’s found God, and I read she is actually doing good works where you show up and stuff. Give her a chance.
And, no, I never did see those tapes.
Where are they anyway?
I nominate Robert Samuelson or David Brooks to be fall-people for that joke for awhile awhile
masaccio @ 71
Ayn Rand, like L. Ron Hubbard, is dead. Unlike Hubbard, she stopped writing at that time.
wangdangdoodle @ 12
In case anyone is interested, here’s the straight scoop on the current dust-up over veiled voting.
I have the keys to the snack cabinet. This is for the baseball fans. And this is for all the people having a sweet new year.
demi @ 76
She’s brought alot of this misery on herself. At some point it’s well past time to stand up for what’s right and call out the BS for what it is, veto proof majority or no.
well, wdd can’t be the only one dropping quarters:
Neil, with an Emmylou sighting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6_LXPAl4SY
demi @ 76
She’s the Gramma I wish I’d had…
TRex,
I know you love sex scenes.
So, why’d ya pass on the Bonanza Jellybean/Sissy comment?
I thought it was a rather enticing comment.
wangdangdoodle @ 25
Human Klein bottle?
demi @ 76
She should have been more timely with her table arrangements.
OldCoastie @ 38
On a lighter note, Jon Stewart gets to take a second bite of the apple; he will host the academy awards again next year.
When I was in graduate school (the first time – brag, brag) getting my Master of Architecture, I figured I’d better read the Fountainhead since so many of my friends (all male of course, very few females in Architecture in the ’70’s)had been inspired to become architects by the book. I am happy to report I never finished it. Couldn’t stand it. Didn’t get it. I still don’t get it. But then I am not that kind of architect.
SnarKassandra @ 81
Yum, thanks Cassie!
jayt @ 83
Thanks, jayt. DJing is hard work!
madmommy @ 82
Yeah, you’re right.
Okay.
burnspbesq @ 86
OK, I am skert to google THAT!
“Mind-numbingly stupid content aside…”
Now, this is mind-twistingly difficult to do, TRex. But, I’ll try.
This quoted excerpt comes across to me with mixed effect. On one hand, I applaud the articulate expression of naked ignorance.
On the other hand, the ignorance itself is a frightful wonder to behold. A life view based primarily on notions of inherited wealth and privilege, shown in all its unclothed, er, glory.
Everybody is entitled to their own ignorances. I certainly have mine. But, a healthy and essential medicine for ignorance, I think, is self-awareness of same.
The likes of Ms. Galt/McArdle, it seems, have no such awareness. And, with awareness as a prerequisite, no shame.
And, there’s the shame.
demi @ 76
well, she does come across as intelligent, kind, and sincere. And stylish in a grandmotherly sorta way.
[ducks from pebbles being pelted by irate pelosi constituents)
I dunno. She does have a tough job.
So you are saying she is randy and likes taking liberties? Great, now if she weren’t some rightwing kook.
Recommendation: No Fountainhead; here’s the novel for today’s teenagers. Perhaps a thread for the week-end.
good night all – school night for me and I’m trying to get more sleep this year.
Wangdangdoodle,
Hi back attcha.
Bonanza Jellybean!
I just had to say that.
Hello, TRex and firepups, from Giddings, TX. It has been many a moons since I dipped a toe into the lake during the phenom thread of DF.
Allow some spackle for the bewildered. I loved your bro’s line of a libertarian being a Republican with a bong. Further, it is a Republican that wants to smoke dope and get laid, since they want to eliminate laws against prostitution and drugs–as well as social security, medicare, medicade etc.
The silly Megan is merely like Calvin of Calvin and Hobbes. When Calvin informed his Dad he was going to be a millionaire when he grew up, his Dad told him he would have to work very hard. Not so, Calvin said, because he planned to inherete (sic) it. Dad would have to work hard.
Great stuff, TRex. I am really dissapointed that I couldn’t make YKos this year to meet you.
TRex-
Oh, I see this too, but in a quite different setting. But, same thing, in a way.
Exam. I grade the exam. Inevitably there a few who come back to challenge the score, line by line.
Including such convincing statements as “But, Dr. VG, this is so unfair. I studied really really hard and I know the material very well. That grade is totally unfair.”
Yep.
I try to be kind, and explain to them the errors they have made.
But, in the end I have to resort to “what you wrote made absolutely no sense to me.”
Do you have a better suggestion for closing out the conversation?
wangdangdoodle @ 72
Can you loan me a quarter?
The sex scene was hard to find in that morass of words. As I recall, it involved a fireplace, and was preceded by an unmercifully long speech (shades of Atlas Shrugged) which I think was a Rand roofie.
I never read any Ayn Rand, and judging by the comments I am glad I didn’t waste my time. I was too busy at that age trying to make sure I read all the books on the banned list at my school. It turned out to be a very well rounded literary education in the classics.
Gnome de Plume @ 89
Almost everyone I know who read Ayn Rand got turned on to her by the Rush album “2112“.
Oilfield guy – good to hear from you. I know where Giddings is. Not too far from me.
Kitty Litter cake
Article — Spiegel Online: “The US Will Lose War Regardless What It Does”
The statement at the end of July by the new chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Admiral Michael G. Mullen, that “no amount of troops in no amount of time will make much of a difference” …
TRex @ 66
Just to firedoglake dot com?
masaccio @ 103
I would have expected most editors to call it bad writing when characters in a novel have to lecture at length to convey its message.
wangdangdoodle @ 42
You set the bar pretty high, there, WD. Don’t know if I can top that.
Is that from the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony?
wangdangdoodle @ 93
’skert’? You’re free falling…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HECEuBc9LQ
EvilDrPuma @ 79
Mercifully.
Does anyone know about Ayn Rand’s young lover? The one she tutored late in life?
Wangdang,
For you You, Darlin’.
Emmy Lou….
And for all the other Cowgirls out there.
Loo Hoo. @ 102
I love Lyle! And I want that house in the opening of the video. The potential!
Night all! Too tired.
Gnome de Plume @ 114
I know that I have nothing but the most heartfelt pity.
madmommy @ 51
Not in any universe where USC exists.
Gnome de Plume @ 89
again harkening back to college days (midlife crisis? who, moi?), a philosophical classmate once shared with me his opinion that, “almost without exception,” people who liked Ayn Rand were immature assholes.
To this day, the lad has never been proven wrong.
burnspbesq @ 119
And U T ! But maybe not this year.
Snailmail does not end with dotcom.
Oh, come on, man. Spelling don’t count. ’specially if you’re upper middle class. And grammar? Bosh!
Loo Hoo. @ 102
Pooter crashed, but I’m back. I luurrv Lyle!
I read the Myth of Sisyphus and the Rebel in the same time frame. I thought I was getting a spread of philosophy, but you have to remember I was just a high school senior. Last year, I complained to one of the guys at my bookstore that the were shelving Rand in the philosophy section: he told me I was not the first with that complaint.
madmommy @ 104
Yeah, my school district had a lot of the banned books list on our required choice for this AP course to read too. I hadn’t realized they were banned books at the time since i wasn’t too aware of the list but regardless. It was definitely worth it.
Shadowstalker @ 60
Yup.
“And Rene Descartes is a drunken fart.
I drink, therefore I am.”
Actually, it was not so late in her life. It was in the 1950’s. It was Alan Greenspan.
Oilfieldguy @ 122
OFG, Dang, Hunt Oil get a hold of ya yet? ;-)
Gnome de Plume @ 128
Okay, the pity is fading now.
OldCoastie @ 98
Night, OC. What do you teach? If you’re already asleep, just convey it in a dream later on…
aliasofwestgate @ 126
My HS library has banned book week when they encourage people to check out books that are banned in other places.
burnspbesq @ 119
The SEC is so much harder a conference top to bottom than the PAC 10. We shall see. I am still trying to figure out how USC ranked higher than LSU this week when USC didn’t even play and LSU won handily. West coast sportswriter’s bias, perhaps? ;0)
burnspbesq @ 111
It’s from stumbling aroun You Tube.
;)
Oilfieldguy @ 100
That reminds me of an exchange in Gentlemen Prefer Blondes with Marilyn Monroe:
Is Atlas Shrugged out on video? I don’t read so better.
EvilDrPuma @ 53
I mentioned in an earlier thread that Cafferty had a question about her today (don’t remember what it was) and she got totally blasted outta the water. Appeared that most of the responses were from Dems. Have never checked his stuff on CNN but it might be interesting to take a look-see at the expanded version of that one.
wangdangdoodle @ 84
Whouatttttttt??? Unfortunately this opporunity (Pelosi) is being squandered…….No doubt she is intelligent, no doubt she is powerful, no doubt she is is an historical figure…Unfortunately, for the entire world, her tactics are wrong. She has zero, I repeat zero, concept of what she is facing. She is too involved in her “south sea pearls”, and how she looks, to have any concept of what she is up against. It is about a run-away executive branch attempting to grab endless power. She is oblivious to the facts at hand, and she is not “powerful” enough to stop it…Reid, hopeless…she thinks she can flirt her way out of it…helloooo..she has no power “there”. Her power, or our power, lies elsewhere. She is playing from the physical realm, which she has “passed”…truly, she has to act from a realm of something higher…try power, try truth, try ethics…stop the BS schmoozy, flirty games…it won’t work.
Gnome de Plume @ 128
Fer real? Small world…!!!
Loo Hoo,
listen to Even Cowgirls (or Girlscouts) Get The Blues
Want cha to hear it.
Hey TRex.
Nice spanking you got there.
Shame if you had to spank Megan again.
CTuttle @ 112
For some reason, I had no fear of clicking on that… glad I did!
And stylish in a grandmotherly sorta way.
Dang, oddmommy. Stylish and classy grandmother!
To my personal email:
df530 at bellsouth dot net
demi @ 115
Careful!! jayt’s gonna marry you for that!!!!
My turn to feed the jukebox:
Harry Chapin “Taxi“
Heya, TRex,
I loves you, I have just one quest.
is your brother straight or gay? I’m just curious
if what they say about twins is true, that they’re opposite, but alike in many ways.
thanks for telling it like it is. I think you’re cute too. ;-)
I Shrugged First
Nope. Missed Old Yeller, too.
Fat lot of good that did me, seeing as how I got stuck with Ann Coulter and more New Yellers than I can shake a stick at.
aliasofwestgate @ 126
Our banned list was more of a bit of silliness on the part of a very conservative religous school. Catcher in the Rye, Tom Sawyer, etc. I figured if they didn’t want us reading that stuff then I needed to get myself to the public library post haste.
Wow, so glad to hear everyone diss that book. I, too, read it. Was so disappointed in myself because I hated it.
Did you all then read “Jonathan Livinston Seagull”? Had to be one of the kewl kids.
my cousin gets to stay up late for a holiday but i have to go to sleep and go to school tomorrow. bleh!
good night y’all. aunt betsy is waving at y’all.
I thought Oilfieldguy was kidding, but there is a movie version of Atlas Shrugged “in production” according to IMDB, with, get this, Angelina Jolie slated for the lead role. Perhaps the Almighty has indeed withdrawn blessings from the US.
TRex @ 144
Trusting soul, eh? *g*
wangdangdoodle @ 145
Well, I’m kinda married at the moment.
But, dayem, I’m still listening to it.
And singing the harmony Out Loud.
EvilDrPuma @ 130
oh, good heavens. Alan Greenspan as a young man. Alan Greenspan and Ayn Rand….uh, doing it.
Back to the bathroom floor.
Oilfieldguy @ 136
If you want to torture yourself, I can send you the “books-on-tape” full unedited version (cassettes, not CD). Don’t know what possessed me to buy it. I had already read the book. But, it was only $1.81 at the thrift store.
LS @ 138
Yeah. But she’s still better than the Gramma I got…
Good night, Cassie.
(waving to Aunt Betsy)
Linda G @ 147
My twin is about as tediously, painfully straight as they come.
Poor thing.
CTuttle @ 139
She taught him about the head of the Fed, or do I have that backwards?
ccmask @ 107
I see you are thinking like althespook. Working on your own venue so as not to compete with Betsy!!
Rayne @ 141
*a-hem
No spanking!
;)
wangdangdoodle @ 157
I need a new grandma too.
PS,
I’d take it as a complement, but, doesn’t jayt wannt marry everyone?
Jayt – next time, babe, if your still around.
(hearts)
oddmommy @ 155
I know that revelation will be the death knell for my libido. I just know it.
I read a couple of her posts recently and could not figure them out. I like her prose style -it has a lot in common with mine. Except I am cynical and sarcastic, where she seems daffy and sweet, with the cynicism and meanness of the underlying worldview buried deep under mountains of stuffed animal toys.
I just took a look and thought some of her posts were good, if you take them as satires on the chatter of a reactionary tipsy yuppie ditz far along into happy hour.
Here are is my favorite bit.
Deep thoughts on the flaws of universal medical care in the US:
But after the legal revolution of the 1970’s, American public services look, well, like American ones: unable to deny anything to anyone. What would actually happen in the case Matt describes is that the patient would form an activist group, sue, get the treatment, and use the government settlement to buy the kids organic fruit and a trip to Disneyland.
Sometimes she does make sense and her heart is in the right place:
So when I read about research that has confirmed that a group the researchers themselves belong to is smarter, or more flexible, or just generally groovier, than some other group of folks, I can’t help but reach for the salt shaker.
For the bluegrass fans at the lake.
Skaggs and Rice.
Loo Hoo. @ 161
That is a real cake. Imagine serving that?
Gnome de Plume @ 114
Alan Greenspan, no?
SnarKassandra @ 151
Nite, Cass!!!
wangdangdoodle @ 162
Oh come on now!!
We all know that TRex is the best bi-sexual spanker in the world!! he’s spanked ‘em all!!
Spank away, oh therapod!!
This is off topic but thinking about being sucked in to reading really bad books because they say something about the reader (rather than because it’s great lit). I was at a house party a while ago and the hostess had on her end table a copy of “The Secret”. It didn’t look like anyone had read it, but there it was to tell the guests that she was very current. Had the opposite effect on me.
Hugh @ 160
707!!!
demi @ 164
For jayt. Because we woulda if we coulda…
wangdangdoodle @ 157
Well, I have supported “Granny”….now, I am disgusted that she has not just had a Granny hissyfit, publicly to stop the madness. She is a contributor. She should be out there having a nuclear fit, before Bushco ruins more lives. Just my 2 cents. It is her elected job!
madmommy @ 133
We’re comin’ to Nawlins in January. When we are done kicking ass, led by two Louisiana boys, we will drink your beer, eat your crawfish po’boys, and dance with your girlfriends. Mark it down.
Am I mistaken in my belief that Atlas Shrugged is primarily about the benefits of raw and unregulated capitalism?
burnspbesq @ 167
This is what Mr. Doodle plays for me.
I’m the luckiest gal in the whole fuckin’ world!
CTuttle @ 170
Please tell Aunt Betsy I said Shanah Tovah.
solai @ 150
The kewl kids at my school didn’t read. I read Seagull, but it didn’t make a huge impression, while Richard Bach’s later work Illusions had a powerful effect on how I think. I still pick it up and re-read it again occasionally.
wangdangdoodle @ 145
boy, some people have a looong memory.
A little something more from Emmylou (who won’t marry me either..rumble,grumble, ratzenfratzen…
http://youtube.com/watch?v=JPr74aW8iz0
ccmask @ 168
Something tells me I dare not serve cake tonight…
Oilfieldguy @ 177
Yes. It’s really about the unbridled pursuit of raw, naked self-interest, enlightened or otherwise.
In the real world, it’s “I’ve got mine, f*ck you.”
Oilfieldguy @ 177
Nope. Raw, unregulated rugged-individualist capitalism with the occasional raw, unregulated capitalistic rugged-individualist sex scene pretty much sums up Rand.
wangdangdoodle @ 174
Dag-gumit, Ya’ll scared him off like Papi’s walk-off chased Big Mitch…!!! ;-)
ccmask @ 58
Is that damn panda around again? on the camel followed by the clown car? If so I’m leavin…
Alright, gang. Work’s just about over. Heading home and I’ll see you guys there.
Rayne @ 183
and it glorifies that.
LS @ 175
Well yeah, girlfriend! If she were only half as fired up as we are, I’d be happy.
burnspbesq @ 176
Ha!!! The Warriors will do the Haka in Nawlins…!!! *g*
Uh, OFG, I can send you the unedited “books-on-tape” version on cassettes. If you really want the details. (see above).
Valley Girl @ 156
Now that really made me laugh out loud. Like free with a $2 purchase at K-Mart or something. I assume you are serious with your offer, as I have learned through the years you are a very serious person. Thank you for the offer, but no.
lol I’m ashamed to share a name with her (Megan)
Gnome de Plume @ 114
Are you referring to Mr Andrea Mitchell?
burnspbesq @ 176
We shall see. You’re always welcome, there’s plenty of beer, po’boys and cute girls to dance with all the time!
I think my school’s banned books list was very small. I never did find out what ones were on it, becuase most of the stuff on the offical national banned books list? Were actually part of many College Preparation classes anyway. So our school HAD to have them to read or give us leave to have them. So my amusement later was part of that. How many i’d gotten to read by being in CP English/Lit for all 4 years of high school. Half the ones i chose were on the national list. *amused grin*
jayt @ 181
{{{MWAH!!}}}
demi @ 164
PS,
I’d take it as a complement, but, doesn’t jayt wannt marry everyone?
Jayt – next time, babe, if your still around.
(hearts)
Actually, I’m very particular about the women I choose to be rejected by.
And ya gotta admit – I have good taste!
masaccio @ 152
gosh!
Angie’s doing comedy!
she’ll be great!!
althespook @ 186
I actually bought the book but as you can tell, haven’t finished it yet. I’m surprised nobody mentioned “The Prophet” by Kahlil Gibran.
wangdangdoodle @ 189
She got “charmed” by W, that is what I think happened. He can be charming, and congenial, and she just bit the bait…
CTuttle @ 190
Well that would be something I would buy a ticket to see!
She seems to read Tyler Cowen a lot.
McArdle has more sense than Tyler Cowen.
Here is Cowan arguing against attempting serious efforts aginst global warming:
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5. The strongest argument against significant action [against Global warming] is not from cost-benefit analysis in the narrow sense, but simply that we are not very good at producing international public goods. Especially when it comes to extended, intertemporal collective action problems directed against small probability events, with unclear periodic feedback [econ jargon goobledygook alert!!], and dealing with the Chinese and the Indians, who feel they have the right to pollute as much as we did, and also with the not-nearly-as-cooperative-as-they-might-sound Europeans (how’s that sentence for a mouthful?).
This argument sounds immoral and indeed perhaps is immoral — “we’re ruining things for others, yet if we tried to fix things we would ruin the fixing, so let’s do nothing.” Yet I do not think this issue should be disregarded. If I can’t open up my computer, dissemble it, and then put it back together again, surely my repair plans should take that fact into account.
http://www.marginalrevolution……ol-it.html
——-
To translate that from economic gobbledygook into English, Cowan is saying we should not listen to economists who have run the numbers (and respectable ones who have do recommend we implement a carbon tax RIGHT NOW). No, Cowan is saying that
economic theory cannot explain exaxtly how to reach a workable agreement to get India and China to cooperate (which is true), so we shouldn’t even try it.
How can one describe that kind of reasoning?
At least McArdle is kind of fun to read.
Cowan
Emmylou, Dolly and Linda
link
jayt @ 198
Actually, I’m very particular about the women I choose to be rejected by.
And ya gotta admit – I have good taste!
Ymmmmmmm.
Off to bed. ‘Night all.
madmommy @ 195
Heh, when I was stationed in Lousy-anna my wife always felt uncomfortable with the advances I was constantly receiving… ;-)
I have this all-of-a-sudden craving for Cajun food. I blame you, jayt!
…theory cannot explain exactly how to reach a workable agreement to get India and China to cooperate (which is true), so we shouldn’t even try it.
How can one describe that kind of reasoning?
PNAC-ish?
I was going to end with
‘Cowan is worse than McArdle, at least McArdle is fun and giggly to read”
but the computer ate it.
LS @ 201
Pardon me while I go hurl! {URP!}
Steve-AR @ 204
Great choice. My favorite Dolly Parton song is “Jolene”. A tribute album was done not long ago with a cover that is awesome.
I couldn’t get into the whole Rand cult. It seems to me that Rand true believers feel an unjustified sense of superiority & smug about it too, even though they can never quite explain the philsophy.
Oilfieldguy @ 177
It’s about the holiness of raw and unregulated capitalism.
Jonathan Livingston Seagull? I read that in junior high, when no one gave a crap about reading. I was curious and didn’t understand all of what was trying to be said. But i did like the book at the time.
I wonder how i’d feel about it nowadays, with so many years behind me.
Now here’s a voice for ya.
wangdangdoodle @ 208
I have this all-of-a-sudden craving for Cajun food. I blame you, jayt!
All of a sudden, I’m starting to remember why I’m divorced…
CTuttle @ 207
Just a bit of southern hospitality, no harm meant. We’re just real friendly, that’s all.
Rayne @ 183
Seems the aptly named Robin Leach had a show rubbing everybodies nose in the lifestyles of the rich and famous.
I hate to get all sucky and boring and captin obvious on everyone but, like this has been tried. In every single instance throughout history the results are the same–consolidation of wealth and a huge powerless frightened everybody else.
Corporations are amoral that functions for profit. The goal for all corporations is monopoly, hence the need for regulations.
Oilfieldguy @ 192
OFG- I was absolutely serious. And, may I say, wise choice on your part.
Background tho- I am hooked on listening to books on tape. In the car. Makes driving here bearable. Traffic, etc.
I figure it’s a throwback to the time when stories were told aloud, and passed on through the generations. A different experience than reading the pages. I like it.
demi @ 20
What did you use for thumbs?
madmommy @ 212
Saw Linda at the Armadillo back in the day. What lungs. She didn’t even need a sound system.
oddmommy @ 188
Which is why it resonates with College Republicans.
wangdangdoodle @ 208
Not the Mud Bugs!!! Didja catch “Camden 28″ last nite…? *g*
TeddySanFran @ 194
Yes, and she converted him from Keynesianism and logical positivism to objectivism.
The she being Rand, not Andrea Mitchell. Sorry for any confusion, TSF. ;>)
jayt @ 217
All of a sudden, I’m starting to remember why I’m divorced…
What, she made you cook?
Here… try my gumbo!
Megan wrote: “Most of the Arabs and immigrants from the Indian subcontinent are Christian, Hindu, or Sikh.”
A commentor wrote: What? What does this sentence mean? Find me a Hindu or Sikh Arab. I mean really.
g’night, Solai.
I’m going to head that way myself. No Late Late for me tonight! Up early tomorrow to finish a new piece for Man in the Street. The best of all possible tomorrows to all of you.
Till then-
yellowdogD @ 221
Actually, we had some synthetic thumbs made for the girl who played Sissy.
Pretty radical for Readers Theatre.
But, it was a great group.
Radical.
CTuttle @ 224
Mmmm, mudbugs. Love to eat them, hate the work involved. I’m not native, so I didn’t learn as a toddler how to peel crawfish. I prefer mine prepared in a great local eatery, served with a lovely cream sauce over pasta.
ccmask @ 228
God, how I dread grading papers from students who write like that.
My favorite student blooper of all time, from an introductory archaeology exam: “Many Mousterian tools were used for self pleasure.”
Gnome de Plume @ 226
I don’t think Andrea Mitchell’s converted anyone to anything except herself to the bottle.
CTuttle @ 224
No, but I just googled it. Guess I’ll have to catch it to get the mud bug ref.
?
demi @ 140
Love it, demi! She was so young…
madmommy @ 218
I saw no harm… ;-)
ccmask @ 228
Time for another blogger ethics panel. I love it when TradMed outlets accuse bloggers of being editor-deprived, and then publish crap like this.
madmommy @ 212
Dolly is a remarkable woman. She is a real feminist. Emmylou’s career is still going strong after 30 plus years. I remember her when she was getting started in DC in he ’60’s.
madmommy @ 231
Peeling crayfish is a good way to ruin a perfectly good manicure. But so totally worth it.
In honor of Big Papi, who came through again tonight.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5apEctKwiD8
EvilDrPuma @ 232
Cute. I’ll bet you have a bunch more too.
burnspbesq @ 240
Weeeee!!!!!
IMPEACHMENT-Well Done
Actually, folks, girlscout’s gotta go nite-nite, even with the kidling (mancub) having tomorrow off — thank you Hebs, but I had a Root Canal this afternoon and well, I’ve still gotta go earn my bucks tommara…
Gawd, I wish I could stay up and chat.. but..
daaaaaaaa.
Big Hugs to You All
night, demi!
wangdangdoodle @ 234
Naw, crawfish are known as mud bugs, the Camden 28 were inspirational anti-war protesters who stuck it to J. Edgar Hoover and Nixon’s shenanigans…!!!
Loo Hoo. @ 235
We were all So. Young. Then.
(little kiss to you, LH.)
{{{demi}}}
ccmask @ 241
I wish I’d been keeping track all these years. But that one, that one I will never forget.
And now good night for real.
marymccurnin @ 243
Bloody rare works, too.
G’nite demi!
If you can stand it (TRex might be angry at me for providing the link) Novakula dissects the Thompson campaign’s crash-and-burn. Apparently, it’s mostly Mary Matalin’s fault.
Don’t go Demi! We didn’t get a chance to dance!
Madmommy,
You Too!
Pink, Sweet Toes!
TeddySanFran @ 252
Thank. You. Teddy!
wangdangdoodle @ 242
You do know that if the current scenario holds, the Anahiem Angels of Los Angeles will host the Evil Empire in the Divisional series…!!!
Valley Girl,
I know you to be serious almost at all times, and I blush when you use my name and wisdom in the same day. My daughter purchased me a Sirius satelite system for my big truck slightly more than two years ago. My liberal soul was dying a slow death, doing what I do and living where I live. I found the lefty station, bought me a laptop and the sky opened and my heart now sings.
I share the huge frustrations with my party and am so glad Howie has put together Blue America where we can actually finance candidates who share our agenda.
Since that time I’ve broke bread with Mr. and Mrs. Smith (Peanut too) twice, had coffee with Jane and made the convention in Vegas.
I have a boat now. Maybe we ought to have an fdl convention at the lake. We can even cater it for TRex.
CTuttle @ 246
So mud bugs are not related to J. Edgar Fishnetstockings?
demi @ 254
Applying lotion as we speak!
burnspbesq @ 216
Now here’s a voice for ya.
*Very* nice.
And I’m going musically OT for a moment, just ’cause I like this by the Call:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaH-Rv92uCo
And then it’s off to bed.
Night
owlsall.marymccurnin @ 253
you, sweetie.
jayt @ 260
*Very* nice.
And I’m going musically OT for a moment, just ’cause I like this by the Call:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaH-Rv92uCo
And then it’s off to bed.
Night
owlsall.Sweet dreams, jayt. Like that one, too.
Steve-AR @ 238
On stage at The Birchmere, with Mike Auldridge, John Duffey, and of course John Starling . . . who championed her.
I’ve got some live show with her and them from dimeadozen.org . . . . priceless.
boing back one-and-a-half somersaults, tuck, position, no splash (duh!)
not quite a drive by dive but its gonna be a short dip in the lake tonight
Pelosi in a classy and grandmotherly look:
http://www.freakingnews.com/Na…..-31746.asp
marymccurnin @ 243
I’d like to see that blue plate special this week.
madmommy @ 212
that is a great song. I love Dolly Parton, Emmylou too.
I actually don’t know much about Emmylou personally, but Dolly has just always struck me as a really pure soul.
Suzanne!!
wangdangdoodle @ 239
Sucking the heads is also the thing to do.
Suzanne @ 263
Suzanne! Thought you’d be incognito till friday?
wangdangdoodle @ 258
Insted of google, check this out…
http://www.pbs.org/pov/pov2007…..2007-09-12
ccmask @ 265
Can I have seconds?
Steve-AR @ 268
Bite the heads. Suck the juice.
Wow – Check this out!
Clapton and Winwood, circa 2007.
G’nite all. Manana.
Suzanne @ 264
Duh? Evening, Ma Cheri!!!
jayt @ 198
Actually, I’m very particular about the women I choose to be rejected by.
And ya gotta admit – I have good taste!
And here’s Emmylou with her friend John Anderson. As she looks now.
wangdangdoodle @ 273
Bite the heads, suck the tail.
wangdangdoodle @ 45
I’m stringing beads.
Suzanne @ 263
Yea! Yea! You are here and we are so happy to see you no matter what the dive… BTW did I ever tell you that I once won the first prize for the swan dive at 4-H camp?
Christine
shhhhhh don’t tell anyone – am sneaking in a wee bit of computer time
Margot @ 278
La, la, la.
:)
CTuttle @ 256
Works for me — the Angels have owned the Yanquis in recent years.
wangdangdoodle @ 273
poboys, french bread, muffalotta, creme caramel, wop salad, oyster loaf, oysters, shrimp, crabs, crayfish, dixie beer, jax beer, cafe ole, beignets, red fish, red beans and rice, shrimp creole, gumbo, barqs, the roman candy man,
Oilfieldguy @ 257
OFG- that is a great story/ account. Your daughter def. put you into the new tech generation. I don’t spent nearly as much time in my “rig” (hehe) as you do, so I am still back in the “books-on-tape” era for driving.
Not that I could manage it any time soon, but I still think about our discussion re: a camping trip. Oh, okay folks, there were some other FDL folks included, so don’t let your thoughts get carried away. ;) I do love a good, old-fashioned breakfast.
ooooh…TRex found a new Althousian plaything.
Nite, Sleepers!!!burnspbesq @ 283
True!!! 8-)
demi @ 261
http://youtube.com/watch?v=i93NryNWC1I
that’s how tired I’m.
I tried to do this before.
For you Mary…
night night.
and we’ll tango next time.
So, Suzanne, did ya pass inspection? ;-)
demi @ 288
Thanks D.
Suzanne @ 281
I arrived just in time to say hi, Suzanne.
marymccurnin @ 284
Damn it, girl! You’re making me hungry. Wanna trade gumbo recipes?
Steve-AR @ 204
Who’s doing the fiddle on that?
Looks like I am not going to make it to late, late night. I fear the back-to-school funk is rearing it’s ugly head in my house. The big kid has been coughing off and on since he went to bed. If only there were some sort of warning light on a kid’s forehead: “I’m going to be contagious within the next 24 hours, even though I seem fine right now”.
Goodnight all!
punaise @ 286
Reminds me on when the cat finds something in the yard and brings it in, half dead, as a present.
;)
CTuttle @ 289
yes sir, and i wow’d em with my thai chicken luncheon too :) thanks for asking
wangdangdoodle @ 292
Yes. Love to.
God I want to come home for a while. Ten days. I just talked to my brother and I think Katrina brain has him. He needs to play. Me, too.
madmommy @ 294
That fore-warning would be nice… Nite, Madmommy!!!
wangdangdoodle @ 211
Nobody could fall for his “charm.” Certainly not Nancy.
G’nite, madmommy, sweet dreams…
Good night Mad.
I’m really going now, but.
Suzanne, Congrats on the chick lunch.
Miss you, honey.
I wish we had more time together.
I really do.
OK, me too. I’m going to regret myself in the morning!
Suzanne @ 296
Knock’em dead!!! Hmmm… Thai Chicken can ya send me your recipe, I do like to compare notes… 8-)
me too demi – next time
madmommy @ 212
Mine is Coat of Many Colors.
CT – when I get time, I’ll post a comment with the recipe. probably be this weekend – can ya remind me if i forget?
Nite, Demi and WangDang!!!
LS @ 36
Re: your massive put options, this article tells it best.
http://www.financialnews-us.co…..2448724807
Suzanne @ 307
Heh, …or vice-versa…!!! ;-)
CTuttle
Sweet Dreams,
To all of us.
Suzanne @ 281
How did the white glove test go?
Steve-AR @ 238
I was at university with Emmylou who sang folk with some guy…….went anywhere and everywhere they played. Had no idea what happened to her until many years later when I happened to be in NYC and heard the song “Quarter Moon in a Ten-Cent Town” somewhere. Thought, “Dang, that voice sounds familar!” A little research proved it to be Emmylou. Good memories……….
On fiyah tonight, TRex. Fiyah.
TeddySanFran @ 312
I quote: The house looks lovely and I like what the stager did with it.
(in a totally whispered voice .. TSF. I still think you’re cute. don’t tell.. ok?)
don’t want ta raise any weird stuff/)
Jane Hamsher @ 314
Fiyah? Que?
marymccurnin @ 243
Let’s see it done well, too, mary!
CTuttle @ 317
Oops…!!!
CTuttle @ 317
say it out loud fi-yah
Speaking of on fire today, Jane…
Some day!
Suzanne @ 315
Hah, Stager!!! :0!!!
A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away …
Back when I earned my beer money with a guitar and a microphone, this song was a permanent fixture in the set-list. Don’t think I ever did it this well, though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..Q&NR=1
Suzanne @ 320
Sorry, I’m a little slow…!!! 8-)
CTuttle @ 322
The unfortunate realities of the real estate market in California – and since Nana White Gloves just retired from being a real estate agent in Palm Springs, it was high praise.
Hi Suzanne!!!
How’s auntie Mary?
Suzanne @ 325
It’s a shame she retired before moving your cottage… 8-(
bmaz @ 265
Ha Ha HAAAAAA!
Loo Hoo. @ 326
tomorrow and friday is the aunt mary/nana tag team. i’m not sure how much of me will be left when i return friday night.
These boys kin still sing right purty.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIcwnlbbL30
“This war will go on forever”
To the tune of “Tomorrow”
The war’ll go on
forever
Bet your final dollar
That forever
There’ll be War!
Just laughin’ about
Tomorrow
All the the misery,
And the sorrow
Yes there’s more!
When we’re hit with a bomb
That’s big,
And deadly,
I just run in my hole
And hide
And Say,
Oh
The war’ll rage long
past tomorrow
So ya gotta hang on
as we borrow
all that pay,
Petreaus!
Petreaus!
We waited on
Petreaus!
We already knew what he’d say!
burnspbesq @ 274
Wrong link…
double crappyola – time flies while sneaking a dip here. see ya’ll fri nite
Suzanne @ 296
so you passed muster, but not mustard…
Loo Hoo. @ 332
Oops — sorry.
Try this.
Suzanne @ 333
Au Revoir, Ma Cheri!!!
CTuttle @ 317
Really, really hot.
As in light my fiyah.
“How about subject-verb agreement?”
Sum of us dont write good, but we still njoy writin. Why the hate?
– Gnome Chompski
My Subjects never agree. The Verbs are next to impossible.
burnspbesq @ 335
OK. That is a find! Thanks Loo Hoo!
CTuttle @ 336
Au “reservoir”?
PLovering @ 309
Ding! I thought that’s what it smelled like…so no money is actually at risk except a few hundred thousand in trading fees, chicken feed to lock in a defacto profit level enough to leverage money in this environment.
Hat tip!
new thread
Fred X. Quinby @ 338
U git paid by Atlantic Monthly? If not, case closed.
burnspbesq @ 335
very nice. thanks for that.
listening to some old Traffic right now:
Paper Sun, Dear Mr. Fantasy, Glad, Feelin’ Allright, Pearly Queen, Empty Pages…
EvilDrPuma @ 79
Though there is still The Floating Head of Ayn Rand! (Don’t be afraid; it’s actually pretty funny.)
Chiming in very late. Sorry I missed so much of this. Had family business so I’m wound up again.
TRex, thank you for demystifying Ayn Rand, my least favorite writer. Besides her poor writing style (style missing altogether) is her illogic. Add to that a lack of character development and a confused premise (which she cannot reconcile so she turns John Galt into a “god”) and you have a third rate novel. Personally, a teen would get much more out of Jane Eyre and Whithering Heights.
Writers self-reveal. Her self-promotion as a philosopher and Aristotelian, is attached to her as fact by her followers. Silly fools. I suggest they read To Kill a Mocking Bird.
Will that work for me if I make up a list of characteristics and qualifications for myself? Will you print it as fact on FDL?
Sorry for the cut and paste, but what does this mean?
“I’m very fond of America’s policy towards immigrants, which is to say, we don’t have one. No one will try to force you to assimilate, but no one’s going to help you keep from assimilating either. This policy of benign neglect considerably alleviates both sorts of Muslim/Christian tension found in Europe: the populations that have been positively encouraged not to see themselves as part of the larger culture, and the populations that feel their traditions are under attack. Obviously, it’s not as if America is some sort of perfect paradise where no Muslim kid ever feels either excluded, or forced to assimilate. But the sharp group-on-group rage never seems to have gotten a foothold here. And of course, America in general has much more experience assimilating strangers than Europe.”
We have some hard-core readers around here, three generations worth in the general neighborhood. No Rand-reading among us somehow.
Probably illiteracy or inbreeding or something.
Still, it has been on my mind (logged somewhere well behind the 200 books urgently demanding attention!) to read Shrugged or Fountainhead or some other Rand tract if only in the interests of self-defense.
Any suggestions on which of the “ouevre” is most approachable?
Neil Young busking in Glasgow
EvilDrPuma @ 28
The central message of Ayn Rand is “Greed is good.” Entrepreneurs are killers, of the planet and sometimes of people who oppose them.
“I read every single word of this piece of garbage [Atlas Shrugged] and because of this piece of sh-t, I’m never reading again.”
–Officer Barbrady
“Chicken Lover”
South Park
The Fountainhead is singularly responsible for the myth amongst architects that they are part of a singular noble tribe, and they can throw out several thousand years of collaborative effort at building cities.
The Randy ideal of a great individual building, designed according to the needs of it’s genius architect, has destroyed urban fabric throughout America. If you wonder why we don’t build cities like we used to, Rand is guilty (with nods to Frank Lloyd Wright, Le Corbusier, and Gary Cooper)
this thread is probably dead, but i gotta weigh in.
i had a high school boyfriend who read Rand’s ‘Anthem’. He saw himself as the hero of the book…and i was his ‘Golden One’. He got very offended when i objected to being his ‘Golden One’ because she was such a goddammed twit. i knew then that Ayn Rand didn’t much like women. I don’t understand how any women can support a school of thought that denies them a place. But then again i don’t understand fundamentalist christian women, fundamentalist ubber orthodox Jewish women, ultra fundamentalist Muslim women, so i’m clearly a slow learner, though not as slow as Ms. Jane Galt.
in arch school i had to read ‘The Fountainhead’. it was a crock of shit and it pretty much identified who the assholes in my studio were – if i hadn’t already figured THAT out already. i’m usually pretty mellow about stupid reading assignments, but i blasted my professor on this requirement. Not only did i not identify with the arogant Howard Roark who i thought was pretty unpleasant and whose ‘ills’ mostly seemed self inflicted, but the only female character gets RAPED by Howard Roark and loves him for it. There was nothing in it for me to identify with as a person or an architect.
of course ‘everyone’ -i.e. my predominantly male classmates and my male professor thought i was ‘overreacting’.
ARGH
aliasofwestgate @ 54
I find that most hominids who refer too often to Rand, don mantles of “Rationalist,” and/or cite, “The Fountainhead,” more than once per decade tend to be largely full of both themselves and crap. One half step up from revealers of The Black Helicopters. One full step down from Grassy Knollers.
The Randians at my backwater school were the gnurds (archaic spelling disclosing my age) too socially dyslexic for the Chess Club, dope-smoking or inter-gender dating.