Last night, as I was laying in bed trying to shut off my brain from the barrage of news and go to sleep, I started thinking about how much I truly miss Steve Gilliard and Billmon. Really, desperately miss them. That outrage and reality that cut through the bullshit like a hot knife through butter…I could use a heaping helping of that this morning.
Because this is the sort of thing that incites outrage:
Rations have been reduced by 35 percent, and of the 5 million Iraqis who depend on them (about a fifth of the country), two million are having trouble receiving the rations because they live in high-risk areas. Now the news is that with Ramadan looming, where square meals at sunset and in the morning before dawn are all that keep people going during the fast, the rations may not be available in nearly the required amounts. Iraqi foodstuffs are increasingly threadbare or rotten, and delivering the rations to risky areas is very difficult. (Imagine the difficulty in feeding the 200,000 Fallujans, 80 percent of whom are unemployed, given that no one is allowed to drive vehicles in that city).
And so is this:
” . . . Oxfam estimates that 28 percent of Iraqi children are malnourished, compared with 19 percent before the U.S. invasion. . .”
What in the hell are we doing? I mean that honestly, it has been years — YEARS — and things are still getting worse. No amount of the Bush stalling for time extravaganza changes the fact that the piss poor planning at the start has screwed things royally in an occupation that should never have occurred in the first place. And today, Patraeus (H/T to MoveOn.org) is going to ask for another FU. (Testimony begins at 12:30 pm ET on C-Span3. And, not to be missed, Athenae has a note for the originating FU.)
For what, exactly? More FU’s for failure and Bush CYA. Boo yah. As Swopa says, the problem with more FUs is that the burden falls on other people’s lives.
Speaking of failures, MyLeftNutmeg has a helpful chronology of the idiocy that is FU Joe. The Homeland Security committee is finally having a hearing on the DHS failures under Michael Chertoff — only six years after 9/11/01. Heckuva job with the oversight, Joe. (C-Span1 looks like it is broadcasting this. FYI.)
Here’s a clue — something I learned from Britney — life isn’t a series of rehearsals, and when you show up with a half-assed effort, there is a penalty to be paid. And no amount of WH-directed PR initiative and manufactured faux outrage erases the mental image of a tarted up failure in flashy, sequined outer package that forgets to take the substance of the performance altogether seriously. (And how in the hell do you mess up lip synching, anyway? Oh wait, let’s go to the tape…) And you know it.
While I’m thinking of it, it doesn’t help when President Short Attention Span swaggers around and plots new ways to poke at various factions without giving a thought to the long-term consequences of his idiocy. Stop taking behavioral cues from Kid Rock and Tommy Lee, and grow the hell up. And stop being so afraid of shadows.
For the sake of my blood pressure, here’s hoping for some public calling on the carpet today, and much less of the dupes on parade. Because, honestly, the dog and pony show doesn’t work. And we ought to say so, loudly and often. Enough already.
Have you called your Senators and Representative today? Please do — because the wingnuts are, and you don’t want their voices to be the only ones that our legislators hear, now do you? (Toll free numbers via katymine.)
1 (800) 828 – 0498
1 (800) 459 – 1887
1 (800) 614 – 2803
1 (866) 340 – 9281
1 (866) 338 – 1015
1 (877) 851 – 6437
(Why yes, that is a corgi in a pony costume. Why do you ask? Photo via crows to burnaby. And adding a belated congrats to Patrick at Making Light for his Hugo win — well earned, and very well deserved for his great work at TOR.)
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Mornin Redd
When do the hearings begin?
12:30 pm ET, rw.
Again, four words encapsulate this entire fatuous Betrayus dog & pony show.
Same Time Next Year.
tre’
Good morning Christy!
But…but…Fallujah is “calm”!
The calm of thousands of people slowly starving.
We did this.
Hello Christy!
Don’t debate the lies! Call them out as lies!
egregious @ 5
“It’s Worth it.”
- George W. Bu’ush
Fallujah is calm because we bombed the shit out of it.
How can the US win or lose the Iraqi civil war? It defies all forms of logic.
Redd
Thanks!!!
I don’t expect much except perhaps some entertainment- but glad they’re finally happening.
rw at 11 — I’m going to try and liveblog as much of it as I can. But I have to pick up The Peanut at the bus stop at 2:30-ish — we’ll at least get the beginning anyway.
The problem (or the beauty) with the acronym FU, is that I always read it as a F**k Up, and then I remember it is a Friedman Unit.
And please: Stop using Al-Anbar Province as an example. The situation and conditions there are unique and cannot be duplicated elsewhere.
Biodun @ 10
Paraphrasing Mencken, “No one ever went broke underestimating the logical capacity of the Murkin Peeple.”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6983027.stm
Link to new poll of Iraqis
47% want us out ASAP
The rest think we need to stay for a while at least.
The Corgi has the same expression on his face I am wearing as I sit down to watch C-Span3.
Ahh the Collins & HoJoe show featuring chertoff on C-Span1. Why is my heart sinking?
egregious @ 5
Wasn’t it Betrayeus’ handbook on quelling insurgencies and rebuilding thereafter that was used in Fallujah? That speaks volumes.
[pardon the pun]
Kid Rock and Tommy Lee are such a couple of pukes.
Asiatimes analyzes the US media.
Cockroaches and rats….
-GSD
Why does the Homeland security committee look like a throwback to 2004?
mui @ 18
What an effin circus!
Gnome de Plume @ 13
The beauty of it.
“Have you called your Senators and Representative today?”
I expressed my frustration to my Congresswoman, who is one of the good ones. My attempts to contact Democratic party leaders directly were met with curt admonishments that I didn’t live in their state or district, and therefore I could not contact them directly.
So, I vented to my Representative. With apology for taking it out on her.
AN OPEN LETTER TO DEMOCRATIC PARTY LEADERS
In explaining the Democrats’ bewildering strategy of nonconfrontation, Richard Wolfe, on Countdown with Keith Olbermann 9/7/2007 said something to the effect that Democratic leaders were, above all, looking to avoid “overpromising and underdelivering.”
If Wolfe is right, and I think he is, a key component of my party’s strategy in dealing with the huge national crisis that we find ourselves in is to avoid overinflating peoples’ expectations. This certainly explains the timidity and fear that elected Democrats have wallowed in during these putrid times.
To, this I say five things to you, my Democratic party leaders: NO! NO! NO! NO! NO!
We are not expecting you to clean this mess up overnight. Not overmonth, not even overyear. And, we are not expecting you to make brash claims about your riding into town and bringing about law and order pronto. Don’t make promises at all. I’m not looking for puffery and pronouncements, anyway.
I’m looking for small, unrelenting stands of courage. I want to see little displays of character. I want to be warmed by unabashed homage to principle. You don’t have to predict or promise the outcome of your actions.
You just have to take some stands, stands based solely on principle and character. Throw your political calculations out the window. They don’t serve you well here, for this is a matter of personal integrity and of national health, not of politics.
Little stands, taken one after the other. Little stands that inspire others to take stands. Little stands that become many stands. Many stands that become an irresistible tide. A tide of justice, a tide of honor, a tide of respect. The change will come from bold stands taken en masse and without pause or apology. Change has to.
But, don’t waste your time calculating what you can and can’t promise me. Don’t worry about overpromising me or underdelivering to me. Changes don’t come from promises, after all, so don’t promise me at all.
Just find the courage to stand up to what is so very, very, VERY obviously wrong. Find your inspiration, wherever it resides, whatever it takes. Read. Meditate. Write. Find courage, somehow. Please.
It’s funny, but it’s profoundly sad, too. You worry most about disappointing me. You take care not to let me get my hopes up. You tiptoe around confrontation. In so doing, you disappoint me tenfold.
Sincerely,
…
BTW CHS,
I’m as livid and disconcerted as you are. Peace on you!
I could not force myself to watch the Homeland Security hearing this morning. I’ve got a headache, and having to listen to Lieberman was more than I could bear today…
EPU’d from last thread:
Biodun @ 104
Dems CAN’T stop the war- and many of em don’t even want to..
I look forward to not listening or watching Lieberman. The man is a snake in the grass.
Confirmed by Josh:
After their Hill testimony Gen. Petraeus and Amb. Crocker will head a couple blocks over to Fox News where they’ll give an exclusive one hour sit-down to Brit Hume.
GSD @ 21
Ouch! And justified. It’s why I want to bang my head against the wall when I hear Hillary, Obama et al talking “tough” on Iran. They even include Rudy’s “why I want to be dictator” essay. Ouch, ouch, ouch.
ccmask at 31 — I thought that was already common knowledge from yesterday. Was there a question raised about the Fox interview? I heard about that yesterday morning…
37 die in Mexico truck blast accident
Oh, wait, dog and pony show …
Going through some old articles at my blog, trying to find where I predicted that the Petreaus report would be a big thumbs up, I was reminded how long we’ve been explaining that things are continuing to get worse in Iraq, how many times we’ve all predicted that they would continue to get worse in Iraq for what seem to us like obvious reasons, and how little that seems to affect any “thinking” in DC.
Apparently, I made that prediction in comments somewhere.
Anyhow, it’s just depressing how it seems like everyone out here in the rest of America gets what’s going on in Iraq, and how little they seem to get it in our nation’s capital. It’s certainly hard to imagine why they don’t understand.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 33
Oh, no sorry Christy.. I hadn’t heard about it yesterday. My bad.
Great rant, Christy. But I disagree that Britney ever does anything “half-assed.” It’s usually a full moon.
Wars don’t stop cause congress listens to a general..
This one will go on for at least another three years- and end then only if we all keep pushing..
A war is a locomotive running down the tracks at full tilt…it takes years to even slow it down.
Vietnam lasted over a decade- even with massive demonstrations, bloody coverage, and 55,000 deaths.
We’ve got a long way to go..
Put on your marathon shoes.
ccmask @ 31
September, 2008:
After their Hill testimony Gen.
PetraeusPetraeus’ successor and Amb.CrockerCrocker’s successor will head a couple blocks over to Fox News where they’ll give an exclusive one hour sit-down to Brit Hume.Christy Hardin Smith @ 27
Totally understandable.
Clair McCaskill is taking Chertoff to task on baggage screening. Why some mothers can bring apple juice on, and others can’t etc. Shorter Claire: Why can’t you can’t get your act together?
cc at 36 — No apology necessary. I thought I just missed a waffle on it somewhere. *g*
ccmask @ 34
There were apparently attacks on oil pipelines too.
-GSD
Gnome de Plume @ 13
I don’t see what the problem is. ;)
Redd @ 27
Maybe the committee should take the painrelievers and we’ll call them back in the morning. (Exc*dr*n headache #2007?)
That poor corgi….
ccmask @ 31
The question is whether they will do something similar for other cable/broadcast networks.
Scarecrow at 45 — No. This has been another edition of…
On baggage equipement, Chertoff talking about baggage screening becoming obselete and wasting money?!? Hahaha. Not a concern of Cheney’s in Iraq.
rwcole @ 1
please excuse the repeats…. three showings of the Petraeus/Crocker dog and pony show today and tomorrow:
Monday, 12:30 pm – Joint Hearing of House Armed Services and Foreign Affairs
Tuesday, 9:30 am – Senate Committee on Foreign Relations
Tuesday, 2 pm – Senate Committee on Armed Services
for details go to the complete listing this week’s congressional hearings.
apparently there are still lots of firepups who don’t know that i’ve been putting together a weekly list of congressional hearings since last spring. click on my name to get the latest.
GSD @ 21
From the link:
My bold. This pathology, which is Chimpy’s, must not be allowed to translate into the pathology of all Americans.
kdh22 @ 26
ditto. I lose sleep over this stuff.
Uh oh. (heart sinking, no oversight, no oversight, no oversight) Lieberman talking on one of favorite things: Islamofacism. Do we have a problem of Islamist radicalization here at home (to Chertoff)? What are we doing for outreach. (whine, whine)
BobbyG @ 8
Would it blow your mind if some one senator stood up today and said what needs to be said with integrity and concern for our country, in other words, do their job, the one they said they would do when elected, which is to abide by the rule of law and the constitution of the United States of America.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 46
Well, I think most people realize that an interview on Faux News doesn’t carry much weight. That’s where the Shooter went after he shot that old man in the face, after all.
It is indeed outrageous, but there actually were legitimate plans available and this administration CHOSE to ignore them. We really mustn’t forget the courage that General Shinseki portrayed when he told the Republican dominated Congressional Panel that it would take at least 450,000 troups to do this with any modest degree of success and that we did not have the capability to do so. We must not forget the Wolfowitz contradicted him with outright bullshit and the Congress decided for a person who had never served over a seasoned, professional, experienced, and knowledgable general. This has been nothing more than outright denying facts for fiction; straight up. Do not pass go; no more money!
Thanks – It’s sleep deprivation; I’m telling ya! ;)
HoJoe: Do you take it the responsibility of FBI to engage in the waaar of ideas here at home. . .
HoJoe wants to know who’s responsible for the domestic “battle ideas of ideas”. He really wants to know.
(I practically expect him to add something about bloggers.)
McConnell: Oh no our emphasis is on foreign.
Chertoff: Incident management team (headed by civil rights team) *whaaaaat?*
I’m trying to understand what means “outreach” to the Muslim community. Is this one more outrageous transfer of money?
Maddy @ 52
Wish in one hand, shit in the other. See which one fills up faster.
I should have known better, but I flipped over to CSPAN1. I lasted about 60 seconds until HolyJoe started to spout off about hateful idealolgy. The breakers on the old outrage circuit tripped and I am now on cartoon network.
rwcole @ 38
I got my camo louboutin boots, does that count?
GSD @ 42
Separate incidents according to the San Antonio news. (SA is the capitol of Northern Mexico, in case you didn’t know.) The pipeline explosions were sabotage, probably guerrillas who attacked other pipelines recently. The truck blast was from a wreck with another vehicle.
egregious @ 59
Oh good! you’re prepared!
HoJoe thinks that there should always be some muslim leader to “step up” and counter Osama’s message. That would be most credible.
mui @ 47
OT on baggage screening.
I picked up my in-laws at the airport last week. They were returning from Zimbabwe. They carried on a heavy wooden walking stick with a metal rod in the middle of it. They were only questioned once on the flight from Bulawao to South Africa and the rest of the way nobody questioned it.
I have to wonder why you can’t bring fingernail clippers, but a big Shillelagh is just fine.
Not at the top of the list of things that are wrong with this country, but it seems our airport security is “inconsistent” at best.
Stevens is pushing for telecom immunity!!
telecoms holding US intelligence hostage?
egregious @ 56
A little toe-tapping in the next stall over methinks.
-GSD
mui @ 61
Really, Joe? And how much “outreach” have you been doing with Muslim leaders lately?
Christy,
You aren’t missing anything on the Lieberman Dog & Pony Show. If I were a memeber of the American Muslim community I would trust any these clowns when they are talking about “battles” of ideas.
Ted Stevens asking about protection for telecommunications companies on domestic spying.
On NPR today – five years after the arrest of six young men from Lackawanna, N.Y., questions remain about whether the so-called “homegrown terrorists” are as dangerous as authorities initially suggested. The Jihad Next Door, a book by NPR’s Dina Temple-Raston, explores the subject.
The drag and pony show.
Also, Riverbend has left Iraq. Not sure if this was posted before.
bg at 68 — Yep, I posted a link to her post last week just after it went up.
OT, from the Craig filing: Craig’s filing argued that his guilty plea was not “knowingly and understandingly made.”
The people I really feel for in all of this are the writers of “Law & Order”. Those poor people are going to have to try to write an episode about this, and there’s just no way to make Craig even remotely believable.
AZ Matt @ 66
Really it’s such a throw back to the Repug days. Time capsule (minus the Claire). Pre-Katrina.
On NPR’s Morning Edition yesterday, the deputy editor of France’s Le Monde who, on September 12, 2001, wrote in his column that “We are all Americans,” said in response to a question that he wouldn’t write such a statement today. He then lamented the fact that Chimpy squandered a sympathetic history and unique opportunity to lead the world in all kinds of productive directions–by invading and occupying Iraq in a completely useless and now counterproductive war.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 46
I still find it hard to believe that the White House would prevent Petraeus/Crocker from going on CBS with Katie Couric on on CNN with Blitzer. This are they’re best front people, so why wouldn’t they take the opportunity to sell their case? I’ll bet you dinner that Petraeus winds up on another of these shows over the next couple of days.
Elliott @ 64
This shit is the same as I encountered while working in risk management with a bank. We had to have federal FINCEN training on the filing of SARs (”Suspicious Activity Reports”). Our trainer soothingly assured us that we had been accorded blanket federal indemnity, i.e., we could write up totally bogus information that caused someone financial heartburn or outright loss — no showing of “good faith effort” required on our part — and we were immune from any civil or criminal recourse.
This is what the telecoms want.
Imperialism is eternal and starvation of subject populations has always been one of the tools.
At the height of the potato famine, the London Times “looked forward” to a time “when a Celt on the Shannon would be as rare as a red man in Manhattan”.
Frank at 70 — Given how much time a judge goes into explaining the ins and outs ON THE RECORD of every guilty plea that I can recall in my experience, that one is going to be one tough argument to make. Maybe there was a weird anomaly to the Craig plea, but honestly, trying to argue that a US Sentor had no freaking clue what the consequences of pleading guilty to a misdemeanor offense instigated from alleged solicitation of sex in a public restroom as the grounds for probable cause? Puh-leeeese. The plea was definitely to a lesser included offense, and the write-up reflects that — but I would love to sit down with the arresting officer and get the real scoop on what happened in that bathroom stall tete-a-tete — I bet it is one helluva story.
Freddie Thompson seems to have a soft spot for terrorists.
At least those who he can get a few hours worth of legal billing from.
-GSD
Scarecrow — I think it’s going to depend on how his testimony comes across today. I’d bet they use Crocker on the other shows — he has a slicker public PR presentation.
Maybe we could leave the “lessons learned” from Britney to the Ann Althouses and Sarah Silvermans of the world.
There something both unnecessary and unkind in piling on after a young woman has been so publicly pilloried and after her kids have been called “mistakes” on an international broadcast awards show.
And unnecessary and unkind should stay the purview of tacky right-wing bloggers and even tackier “comediennes” and I use the word loosely in this context.
Maybe we could all take a page out of Craig Ferguson’s book on this subject.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bbaRyDLMvA
Christy Hardin Smith @ 77
It’s good that he’s doing this, in a way. Just keeps the GOPerv issue going.
EPU’ed from last thread
I would like to throw out a few points that may already have been raised.
First and most importantly, we need to reclaim ownership of our Iraq policy, indeed our Middle East generally. By setting unreasonable goals and tying those to events on the ground, Bush has committed us to be in Iraq to the end of his Presidency. Even if the next President wants to get out, it will still take a year or so to plan and execute such a withdrawal. We need to get back in control of our policy. We can and should coordinate with the Iraqis during our departure but our decisions should not be based on whether they come through or not.
Two, nature hates a vacuum, and power even morre so. Our leaving will create power vacuums. It is these that will cause an exacerbation of the civil war and many deaths. Coordinating our withdrawal with the Iraqis as I mentioned above can partially mitigate these. But again our leaving should not be held hostage to whether or not groups on the ground act repsonsibly or not.
Third, getting out of Iraq does not mean removing ourselves or our forces from the Gulf. We can and should keep a presence there. Again power really hates a vacuum, and our leaving this area would promote not reduce instability. Also leaving Iraq would not mean severing all contacts with it. We should keep up economic, political, and yes, even military assistance to the Iraqi state or whichever side in the civil war we decide to back. I’m assuming despite Petraeus’ recent boneheaded dalliance with the Sunnis this will be the Shia. I say this because unlike Petraeus I do know how to count.
Third, we can also mitigate regional conflict. We should definitely push for an accommodation between the Kurds and the Turks. This is eminently doable and would eliminate the most likely source of an overt outside invasion by a neighbor. We can not control Iran’s influence in Iraq. We shouldn’t try. Iraq will always need the international community and by extension us to develop and move forward. These are things that Iran simply can’t do. Also although as a neighbor and a Shia majority state Iran will have a role in Iraq I would not overplay this. Whoever ends up in power in Baghdad is going to keep control of Iraq’s oil wealth for themselves. They are not going to give it away to Iran. Historically, there have been tensions and competition between Persian Iran and Arab Iraq. While the current American occupation and Iraq civil war have obscured these, they have not gone away and will reassert themselves in the future. Iraq will not become Iran’s toy although if Iranians played this smart they could end up with an ally. But this would unlikely be an exclusive relationship. The Middle East is a complex place and interests and allegiances usually split several ways.
Fourth, more of an afterthought, we have to make some serious decisions. We have to give up the notion of permanent bases in Iraq. This has been the stealth policy of this Administration whatever the more high visibility policy (surge, etc.) has been. We have also to give up the idea of a reduced American presence confined to going after “al Qaeda”, training Iraqi troops, and controlling the borders. These have been essentially our primary goals for the last 4 1/2 years and we have not been able to accomplish them with much higher troop numbers. We shall also have to come to a decision about arming Iraqi forces. One of the reasons that the Iraqi army is a joke is that it has no heavy weapons. When we leave, the Shia government most likely will be the party to acquire them and use them to enforce its authority. We can’t stop this. We could slow it down. We have to come to a decision if we want to.
Anyway these are just a few thoughts. I have fudged considerably on the issue of the civil war but it remains the central issue among Iraqis and it is something we can not avoid dealing with once we make the decision to leave.
Is anyone here paying any attention to tower guard vigil of Evan Michael Knappenberge, 1st BDE, 4th Infantry Division?
egregious @ 56
Good question Hojoe’s been spending his summer break trying to clinch a nuke deal with India.
CHS:
“anomaly”
Madness! Madness! Madness! I am so disgusted.
GSD @ 78
you always find a way to make me laugh
Get
U.S.
Out.
Now.
[and no, you frickin’ Reperplicans, that doesn’t mean “immediate withdrawal”–that means common sense, organized, timely withdrawal. You know. Planning. The thing you kicked out of the Reperplican playbook.]
Also in the runup to the Petraeus hearing, I would like to put up again my list of the 20 reasons why the “surge” and our Iraq policy in general are not working.
1. Failure to meet the two goals of the surge: 1) Security in Baghdad and 2) A political settlement
2. The move away from benchmarks because little or no progress has been made on them
3. Failure to recognize Iraq is in civil war and create a strategy which addresses it
4. Continued conflation of al Qaeda with the Sunni insurgency
5. Exaggeration of Iran’s role in Shia militias and minimization of Saudi Arabia’s role in the much more deadly Sunni insurgency
6. Failure to resolve tensions between the Kurds and Turkey in the North
7. Corruption, disorganization, sectarian nature, and ineffectualness of the Iraqi government
8. High levels of violence and deaths of Iraqis which have not declined
9. Iraqi security forces remain largely fronts for militias and death squads
10. The Iraqi army has almost no reliable troops and remains strongly dependent on our forces
11. Deterioration of basic services, such as water, electricity, and healthcare
12. Large scale malnutrition among Iraqis children (~28%)
13. Continued high levels of unemployment (25%-40%)
14. Declining oil production, Iraq’s principal source of income
15. High numbers of refugees: 2 million in neighboring countries, 2 million internally displaced
16. Tenuousness and temporary nature of Sunni truce in Anbar
17. Increased Shia on Shia violence in the South
18. Exhaustion of American troops and equipment
19. Inability to sustain the number of troops needed for the surge
20. Post-withdrawal violence will occur if we leave now or later
Craig should have gotten himself a lawyer before pleading guilty. He had enough time to do that. Minnesota law has a provision to dismiss a disorderly conduct case of a first offender–and to expunge the record.
Hugh @ 82
Bu’ush will have none of this.
In the non-oversight oversight non-hearing hearing, it was confirmed by McConnell that the FISA interim bill was needed, because the cooperating telecom companies were about to withdraw their cooperation. He also is pushing for retroactive immunity, because the August bill only gives them immunity going forward.
1,592 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND..
Citizen Hardin Smith and the Firepup Patriots:
I feel yer frustration and share yer despair for the horrible inhumanity bein’ perpetrated in our names…so let’s join together to create an anti-war movement that will threaten the very foundation of the Democratic Party. This war is NOT gunna end before 2009 and the occupation and exploitation of the region will continue apace unless we can create a situation not unlike 1968.
It is clear that the end game of the neo-cons and corporate oligarchy is to split or partition Iraq and to remain garrisoned in a rump Sunny state while siphoning off the oil and threatenin’ the rest of the Arab states. We can’t get ourselves out of Iraq before 2009 but we can cut off partition and perpetual occupation as a fait accompli.
If we can leverage the grassroots political power that you folks in the bloggo-hierarchy have created and focus it on the Democratic Party leadership…we might be able to provide space for Al Gore to step forward in front of the three blind mice of Edwards, Mrs. Clinton and Barak O’Lieberman.
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION…THIS MIGHT GET INTERESTIN’!!!
Biodun @ 90
forgive me for forgetting but what was Craig’s vocation before he became a public servant?
No, BobbyG he won’t. But that’s why it’s a quagmire.
Oh god Wilson (R-SC) is quoting HoJoe’s op-ed. On how Betrayus is pertecting our freedoms. God bless the troops.
Hojoe’s op-ed in the WSJ? Another? *heart sinks*
Oh boy, oh boy oh boy.
http://www.opinionjournal.com/…..ature.html
LS @ 92
they are holding US intelligence hostage.
mui at 95 — See the FU Joe link in my post.
Elliott @ 93
By public servant, do you mean providing executive relief to woodland creatures?
Hugh @ 82:
Really? You believe that? The history of antagonism is too deep and too bitter.
So, when Brit Hume “interviews” the good General, any bets on how many times he’ll work in the ol’ “leftyblogsdemocratscutandrunners are giving aid and comfort to al Queda in Iraq” question?
LS @ 91
very interesting – thanks.
Really, I get the feeling they are just hoping the Iraqis will die from starvation and dehydration (just like Katrina), or get killed by each other, or just leave the country and never come back. Whoever is left can work for Exxon.
Just like NOLA.
Arrest these freaking criminals.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 76
I’m with you on this. Craig is an adult. He has an education. It is not as if he signed this thing “in the heat of the moment” or under some sort of hot light in an enclosed room under horrific questioning. This is garbage and he is now trying to weasel out. Now, saying that, I also feel that Craig and his ilk are one of the greatest gifts that the GOP can give to the Democrats. Bad enough that he pled guilty to a lesser charge for soliciting sex in a public restroom. Bad enough that he felt it necessary to go through all the hoohah of a public “I’m not gay” flag waving deal. Bad enough that he paraded his family in a public way. But to NOW try to weasel out based on some sort of “I’m not evil, I’m just incompetant” argument (a la the CEO/president of MCI – remember HIM?) is just stupid and offensive.
Hugh @ 95
And Bu’ush simply doesn’t care. He’s said that the vindicating judgment of history is some 30 years out, and so many others will have
touchedavoided the problem by then, he and/or his historical apologists will simply shrug off accountability and blame it all on the myriad others that fucked up his Noble Work.A life-long M.O. showing no need of alteration.
more pre-Petraeus prep, emptywheel’s
War and Propaganda Council
Elliott @ 97
In more ways than one.
AJ at 79 — I didn’t say one word about her children, nor would I — that was crass, wrong, and not something that I would ever do. But crying those crocodile tears over Britney’s Bush-supporting little self, and her unprofessional sloppiness in a public performance on live television? Yes, I can see how you’d want that to be utterly off limits because it was clearly such a work-ethic moment for her. Ahem.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 76
It was a mail-in plea, I think, which is part of his lawyers’ arguments. The cop that busted him taped his Miranda warning, though. I just can’t see any judge putting up with crap like this. You accidentally plead guilty, because you were under stress? Please. I can’t wait for the expert witnesses on this one.
Frank Probst @ 71
LOL! Try not to lose too much sleep over it!
She’s an addict — it’s got nothing to do with her work ethic.
She’s sick.
Biodun @ 100
We had an accommodation with the Soviet Union for 45 years. The Turks and Kurds don’t have to like each other. But enemies make deals with each other when it is in their interests all the time.
LS @ 107
US what?
Norm Coleman asking for review on the Osama tape
What would happen if we actually needed to have a draft to get our men and women out? A wartorn individual can only take so much; and we can’t get out of there ‘lightly’.
I cannot believe my country would be in this position. The fecal pile is so high with this corrupt and unlawful administration, it has become fodder for comedians.
It’s such a headshaker. I am not being represented by my Senators or Representative from South Dakota. This is not the country ’tis of thee’ that I knew before this administration took office. I didn’t vote for the “son’s a bitches” along with the majority of Americans. We were sold down the pike in 2000 by both the judicial system and our representatives. Tom Daschle, shame on you for being the minority leader and failing to stand up for a minority caucus with their oh so legitimate concerns and requests.
Ok, I know that last part is irrelevant now, but I had to go with it…!
AJ at 110 — So you’re a Britney fan. Get her some help instead of making excuses for her. Here’s hoping this is her rock bottom out moment, then — because this is NOT helpful for her. And I say this as someone who has helped more addicts into treatment in my day than I ever wanted to have to do. Addicts do not benefit from people making excuses for them. They just don’t.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 98
Yeah, yeah more manure courtesy of HoJoe and McCain.
Listening to Petraeus
The president had the courage to change course on Iraq. Does Congress?
That self-styled “independent Democrat from CT” never stops.
Biodun @ 28
The MSM is already overpromising and overplaying what the effect will be of the Petraeus testimony on the Democratic Agenda and the Democratic Candidates. The Republicans will inevitaby talk mean and untruthfully about the Democrats. At what point does the Dem Leadership figure out how to take control of their own destinies?
I love calling Liarputz’s office to ask when he’s going to go to gooper party officially!!! “er…a….he….has no plans.
AJ @ 111
This may sound prurient. But I can’t even imagine what Brittney’s addicted too. *Help me get my mind of HoJoe!!! Arghhh*
CHS — your assumption that I am a Spears fan is ridiculous. Perhaps you should simply consider what I said and respond to that — And what I said was that your remark was both unnecessary and unkind.
The point you were making didn’t require any reference to Britney Spears at all.
Biodun @ 100
Any accommodation between the Turks and the Kurds is going to involve territorial concessions. That also is true for the Iranian Kurds. While I don’t know about the Iranians, I do know that the Turks are dead set against it. It might be a good thing in the long run to create a formal Kurdistan, but I don’t think that either Turkey or Iran will cooperate in the short term.
Elliott @ 114
That weasel. Al Franken will whoop his ass in ‘08.
Biodun @ 122
That’s not a terribly good headline. Did he disagree with the umpire’s call or something?
Hugh @91:
This statement about “heavy weapons” is the chilling one. The Shiites no doubt remember the helicopters Saddam Hussein used on them in 1991. That, by the way, is where the neocons got their foot in the door on Iraq: I think the Bush I administration would have been more comfortable seeing Hussein massacre as he saw fit in the wake of the debacle, but the no-fly zones were created ostensibly to protect Kurds and Shiites.
AJ at 120 — True, I could have used any number of other items. But, since the media is obsessed today with the Spears’ performance — it was a double-edged jab at both them and Bush. You don’t approve? That’s clear. But it was a public performance, with which the media is now obsessed…and the comparison is apt. She is a 25-year-old adult, not a child. And addiction or not, she set herself up for a failed public performance on a world stage by not doing adequate planning or exhibiting adequate work ethic which, last I checked, is awfully similar to a certain immature President we know and loathe.
And, again, I didn’t say a word about her children, so your reference to that was inaccurate and gratuitous — trying to cadge what I said as a Sarah Silverman moment is just wrong. But trying to portray an adult person who either chose herself or allowed her management to do it for her to put herself into a very unprepared limelight as some sort of victim is not exactly honest either.
CHs:You do the best pictures!
conniptionfit @ 118
At the point where they (we) discover that driving the discourse is part of the way the media game is played in the 21st century. The neocon agenda thought they had it sown up, game, set, match with the Rupert Murdoch stranglehold on media outlet. It is up to the progressive elements in alternative media to a) not allow the MSM to continue to marginalize the impact and, b) not be drawn into the discourse de jour as dictated by the shills for the administration’s message.
The old Chinese proverb goes, “He who defines the terms, wins the argument.” In this case, wining the argument means saving lives and effecting policy that might restore some possibilities in America’s future that are, now, almost irretrievably gone.
Biodun @ 123
Al Franken, supporter of invading Iraq — just for yuks, of course.
Bush is a drug and alcohol addict, he is sick. The Iraq war is not his fault and he shouldn’t be lambasted in the media for it. All is forgiven.
Helpless Dancer @ 122
This is simply wrong. The issue of territorial changes has not been raised by either the Turks or the Iraqi Kurds. It would certainly be a deal breaker if it existed but it doesn’t. Elimination of PKK bases, economic ties, easing up on Iraqi Turkoman in exchange for easing up on Turkish Kurds, accommodation on Kirkuk, these are the kind of things a deal would address.
Frank Probst @ 108
Mail in plea? You mean those are not just for traffic offenses?
Maybe that’s his argument — he thought he was pleading guilty to a speeding ticket.
Whatever, I agree with those who recognize what a serious problem this sordid spectacle presents to the Party of Family Values. It is SO enjoyable to contemplate.
Hi Christy.
Corgis are way too patient sometimes.
Enough indeed!
What happened with Brittany Spears?
Was her comeback performance a disaster?
To hell with Petreaus and the war, this is important.
-GSD
Is it my C-Span3 feed, or did everyone else’s suddenly go dark, too? Arrrrrgh.
Never mind. It’s back up again on my cable.
GeorgeSimian @ 7
Yes, Exactly.
Thanks in advance for the live-blogging of the Petraeus/Crocker spiels, CHS.
It hasn’t even started & I have a knot in my stomach. Mylanta, anyone?
brendan @ 129:
Really? You have a linky for that?
petraeus report on c-span3 pups
GSD @ 134
How could it be anything else?
1,592 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND..
Citizen Hardin Smith:
Take a deep breath, pull a draught of cinnamon tea and ignore the goblins and trolls who would try and occupy yer very substantial mind on Brittany Spears and her Halloween existence…JEEZUZ H. ceeeRIST on a God damned crutch, Brittany Spears???!!!
Come back ta earth sister Hardin Smith.
KEEP THE FAITH AND WATCH OUT FOR THE UHMGAWA!!
okay, dog/pony show about to commence; live feed on C-SPAN 3.
GSD @ 134
dude, you crack me up. I do appreciate it.
brendan @ 125
It has been a deliberate choice of the US to not provide heavy weapons to the Iraqi army. Just as it was a deliberate choice to keep them tied to our logistic tail. The idea is to keep them dependent and unable to project power on their own.
Biodun @ 139
I may be wrong about that. I’ll check.
took five seconds for the first ejection – couldn’t hear it clearly, but it sounded like someone was yelling “war criminal.”
. . Oxfam estimates that 28 percent of Iraqi children are malnourished, compared with 19 percent before the U.S. invasion. . .”
Starving Iraqui children: An America obsession since the 1980s………
Marie Roget @ 138
Merci, non! I completely stupified by FU-HOJoe DHS moment. I think I need someone to pinch me or prick me with a stick.
twolf1 @ 130
you must be a man of God!..
for I have not forgiven
Biodun @ 139
No, I wasn’t wrong.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Franken
He really killed with that one.
It’s nice to know someone else misses Steve Gilliard and Billmon. I miss them terribly.
oddmommy @ 144
Me too!
I hope to heap lots of deference to a star who likes to wave her ass in my face on a regular basis. Poor thing.
Helpless Dancer @145
You’re right, but Hugh’s post is a hypothetical post-U.S. scenario.
Elliott @ 150
Oh, did I leave a snark tag open?
bush 1: shoves sanctions down the u.n.’s throat.
clinton/gore/albright: enforce ‘u.n.’ sanctions and kill 350,000-500,000 iraqui children (UNESCO)-
bush/cheney/powell/rice/rumsfield: 1 million dead iraquis.
long live the amber waves of grain.
Mabel’s Wig Shack @ 156
This makes me cry. My whole work is trying to save lives and work for peace, while my own government does the reverse.
In full support of Christy’s suggestion “call your Reps”. Make sure that you share with them your opinions and thoughts about the push by the “cakewalk in Iraq” nutcases for a pre-emptive military strike on Iran.
No No No to a military strike on Iran. Diplomacy is the key not escalation.Biodun @ 123
I would like to hear Juan Cole interpret the first Obama tapes after 9/11. If the original interpretation is like the interpretations of Iranian President Ahminijads statements about Israel…those interpretations are twisted, manipulated lies.
brendan @ 151:
From your wiki linky:
There is a new thread up.
CHS — I’m done with this topic but let’s be clear here — I never said or implied that you had said anything about her children and to imply that I did is incorrect.
I simply pointed out that you were piling on after others had done so — which was, in my view, both unnecessary and unkind.
Toby Wollin @ 104
We-e-e-ll…whatever Craig seems to have known or should have known, he was obviously unaware of that little constitutional provision which prohibits the arrest of a congress person while travelling to or from a session in Congress, which is exactly what he was doing…(Article 1, section 6). So, yeah, maybe he didn’t know about all the other stuff. He still gets to suck it up (UP, I said UP!) but it’s at least believable.
Wonder what other shenanigans congress critters get up to while travelling around, that seems like a nasty loophole, though I can see why that was put into the constitution…
egregious @ 157
sometimes I try to grasp it in terms of the overall existence of the cosmos and draw a blank…
Lantos….Here we go with the “blame the Iraqi people” for the tragedy that our invasion created.
I am more convinced that the ‘quagmire” is exactly what the radical crazies wanted in Iraq. Who cares how many Iraqi people are displaced or killed in the process of Israel and the U.S. controlling the resources and expanding their influcence in the middle east/
And then we will blame them for the enviroment that the invasion created for sectarian violence and a genocide to take place.
Hugh @ 131
If the Iraqi Kurds succeed in creating an independent Kurdistan in the north of Iraq, it will cause great pressure among Turkish Kurds to join. One one hand that would require a mass movement of Kurds into Iraq, or on the other hand, Turkey allowing secession of the territory that they occupy. On the gripping hand, they can continue the suppression of Turkish Kurds and thus keep the status quo. These tensions have been building for generations and the Turkish oppression of the Kurds hasn’t helped at all.
Hello Duncan Hunter it was Retired Generals Joulwan and Jones who repeated last week that it was a mistake to disband the Iraqi army. I thought you just said we should respect what our military leaders say?
Rep Duncan Hunter just slapped Moveon for callig Patreaus “Betraeus. Move on is certainly getting some National news attention.
More of the don’t question military leaders. It’s as if the American public was not lied to by Colin Powell during his UN delivery about WMD’s. (Sidney Blumenthal and Wilkerson have told us that Powell was duped)
Hello congress if you have not noticed the American public does not feeling very confident in your ability to govern honestly or fairly.
Rep Ros-Lehtinen is a “radical zi*nist”. What is with the way she says “Islamist”? She has relentlessly pushed for sanctions against Iran, supported the illegal invasion of Lebanon by Israel and pushed to cut off humanitarian aid to the Palestinians.
Lehtinen is drowning in the Iraqi, Palestinian and lebanese peoples blood and she could care less.
Next on her list is Iran.
I totally agree about what a loss Billmon is. It’s amazing, his posts from 3 years ago still hold up. Way back in 2005 he was predicting a “back stab” myth to cover for the R’s failures in Iraq.
Billmon, come home. All is forgiven!
Is Billmon living?
Biodun @ 159
What’s the point of your bold? That his “regret” means something? People who rob banks and get caught “regret” it, too.
Billmon was the first blog I ever read years ago when I was desperately searching for info on neocons. Funny you should mention him because he came to my mind as well. I loved Steve,too, and deeply feel the need to hear their voices. The blogosphere is getting too neat, to well organized and it is making me nervous. For some reason the tidiness is uncomfortable. I miss the sense of independence of Billmon and Steve. The bad boys on the big bikes that were just passing through. You never forget them.