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	<title>Comments on: Sunday Late Nite: Sign AB43, Arnold!</title>
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		<title>By: David W. Bartoo</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/09/sunday-late-nite-sign-ab43-arnold/#comment-955365</link>
		<dc:creator>David W. Bartoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 14:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thank you, will try that again.  Very relieved all is well.  Small spasm of paranoia. (shudder!)  [Mod: &lt;em&gt;We’re waiting for you up here.&lt;/em&gt;]&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, will try that again.  Very relieved all is well.  Small spasm of paranoia. (shudder!)  [Mod: <em>We’re waiting for you up here.</em>]</p>
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		<title>By: David W. Bartoo</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/09/sunday-late-nite-sign-ab43-arnold/#comment-955353</link>
		<dc:creator>David W. Bartoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 14:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’m just going to stick a message of concern into a virtual bottle and toss it into the lake;  Has the lake disappeared?  I see from a comment above that a new thread is up.  But all I seem to find is this post about Ahhnold.  If someone finds this message, please come to my rescue.  I do not wish to be stuck with Ahhnold! That would not be limbo, but something more akin to hell.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[Mod: &lt;em&gt;We are here in full flower. Not sure what the problem is there. Perhaps close down and restart your browser.  Good luck.&lt;/em&gt;]&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m just going to stick a message of concern into a virtual bottle and toss it into the lake;  Has the lake disappeared?  I see from a comment above that a new thread is up.  But all I seem to find is this post about Ahhnold.  If someone finds this message, please come to my rescue.  I do not wish to be stuck with Ahhnold! That would not be limbo, but something more akin to hell.</p>
<p>[Mod: <em>We are here in full flower. Not sure what the problem is there. Perhaps close down and restart your browser.  Good luck.</em>]</p>
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		<title>By: David W. Bartoo</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/09/sunday-late-nite-sign-ab43-arnold/#comment-955264</link>
		<dc:creator>David W. Bartoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 13:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Has something happened to Firedoglake?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has something happened to Firedoglake?</p>
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		<title>By: larue</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/09/sunday-late-nite-sign-ab43-arnold/#comment-954967</link>
		<dc:creator>larue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 06:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Done and sent to Ahnald, thanks TSF for the direct and easy link.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;When the bastids deny others their rights, they deny me MY rights. Bastids. Harumph.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Here’s hoping . . .&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Done and sent to Ahnald, thanks TSF for the direct and easy link.</p>
<p>When the bastids deny others their rights, they deny me MY rights. Bastids. Harumph.</p>
<p>Here’s hoping . . .</p>
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		<title>By: darkblack</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/09/sunday-late-nite-sign-ab43-arnold/#comment-954896</link>
		<dc:creator>darkblack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 05:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-954781&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;wangdangdoodle @ 264&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;darkblack, you’re even more devastating with words than you are with pictures.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Aw, shucks&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;;&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-954781"><em>wangdangdoodle @ 264</em></a></p>
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<p>darkblack, you’re even more devastating with words than you are with pictures.</p>
<p>;)</p>
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<p><em>Aw, shucks</em></p>
<p>;&gt;)</p>
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		<title>By: kirk murphy</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/09/sunday-late-nite-sign-ab43-arnold/#comment-954848</link>
		<dc:creator>kirk murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 05:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;  TexBetsy&lt;br /&gt;
September 9th, 2007 at 9:54 pm&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Some vegan noodle dishes for tonight’s snack.
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks TexBetsy!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;And there’s a shiny alomst-new tofu-lovin’ thread upstairs….&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>  TexBetsy<br />
September 9th, 2007 at 9:54 pm</p>
<p>Some vegan noodle dishes for tonight’s snack.
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<p>Thanks TexBetsy!</p>
<p><em>And there’s a shiny alomst-new tofu-lovin’ thread upstairs….</em></p>
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		<title>By: wigwam</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/09/sunday-late-nite-sign-ab43-arnold/#comment-954841</link>
		<dc:creator>wigwam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 05:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-954801&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;yellowdog jim @ 284&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-954794&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;peanutbutter @ 278&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;No, marriage clearly has many aspects the state is interested in including property rights and inheritance.  But the way I see it, marriage needs to be split into two aspects.  There’s the legal aspects of a marriage, which needs to be collected and reframed into a specific legal partnership between any two (or more) people.  Then there needs to be, as you say (which is really the best way I’ve seen it put), the “blessing” of the marriage by individual churches which are free to choose the parameters under which they will bless a particular legal union.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There are legal and religious aspects to any marriage, and &lt;i&gt;these&lt;/i&gt; need to be separated out.  Not that I think there’s a snowball’s chance in hell of this happening anytime soon…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;the state also takes an interest in the welfare of the offspring of marriage.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There is an entire area called “family law” in which marriage is a very important contract.  For example, IIRC, in many states, a husband is obliged to support any child his wife delivers during their marriage regardless of the child’s biologically established paternity.  And, in such cases, the biological father has no automatic custody/visitation rights.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-954801"><em>yellowdog jim @ 284</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-954794"><em>peanutbutter @ 278</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>No, marriage clearly has many aspects the state is interested in including property rights and inheritance.  But the way I see it, marriage needs to be split into two aspects.  There’s the legal aspects of a marriage, which needs to be collected and reframed into a specific legal partnership between any two (or more) people.  Then there needs to be, as you say (which is really the best way I’ve seen it put), the “blessing” of the marriage by individual churches which are free to choose the parameters under which they will bless a particular legal union.</p>
<p>There are legal and religious aspects to any marriage, and <i>these</i> need to be separated out.  Not that I think there’s a snowball’s chance in hell of this happening anytime soon…</p>
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<p>the state also takes an interest in the welfare of the offspring of marriage.</p>
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<p>There is an entire area called “family law” in which marriage is a very important contract.  For example, IIRC, in many states, a husband is obliged to support any child his wife delivers during their marriage regardless of the child’s biologically established paternity.  And, in such cases, the biological father has no automatic custody/visitation rights.</p>
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		<title>By: Loo Hoo.</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/09/sunday-late-nite-sign-ab43-arnold/#comment-954831</link>
		<dc:creator>Loo Hoo.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 04:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Night WangDang.  Just think, your hair won’t be getting caught up in your arms tonight!  Have a peaceful sleep.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Night WangDang.  Just think, your hair won’t be getting caught up in your arms tonight!  Have a peaceful sleep.</p>
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		<title>By: kirk murphy</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/09/sunday-late-nite-sign-ab43-arnold/#comment-954829</link>
		<dc:creator>kirk murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 04:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;wangdangdoodle&lt;br /&gt;
September 9th, 2007 at 9:52 pm&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Packin’ it in, y’all have fun in the Late Late!
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;With 11″ to spare, your Late Late is likely to be a lot more fun than most…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>wangdangdoodle<br />
September 9th, 2007 at 9:52 pm</p>
<p>Packin’ it in, y’all have fun in the Late Late!
</p>
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<p>With 11″ to spare, your Late Late is likely to be a lot more fun than most…</p>
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		<title>By: TeddySanFran</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/09/sunday-late-nite-sign-ab43-arnold/#comment-954820</link>
		<dc:creator>TeddySanFran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 04:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/09/09/late-late-sunday-nite-not-getting-married-today/&quot;&gt;laterness&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/09/09/late-late-sunday-nite-not-getting-married-today/">laterness</a></p>
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