The California Legislature passed a gender-neutral marriage bill on Friday and sent it to Governor Schwarzenegger.
The bill, AB43, is the third effort by Assemblyman Mark Leno, D-San Francisco, to pass what he has termed a "gender-neutral marriage" bill. The act would amend California's Family Code to define marriage as a civil contract between two persons."Marriage is more than just a civil contract ... it is different from domestic partners, it's just different from civil unions - it means something," said state Sen. Sheila Kuehl, D-Santa Monica, who presented the bill and was also the first openly gay person to be elected to the Legislature. "And because it means something, that's why it's been denied to us."
(Psssst, Freddie Thompson: you need to update your stump speech on marriage equality.) Freddie blames the gay marriage on activist judges:
"No states have affirmatively approved gay marriage. There's been no state legislature in the nation that has done that and not likely too…If some state wants to come along through their legislature and do something different let them answer to their own people and I got a feeling they won't be in the legislature that much longer."
Sorry, Freddie, this is the California Legislature's second bite at the marriage apple. Here's what Arnold had to say in 2005 when the marriage equality bill last landed on his desk:
Schwarzenegger on Wednesday said the legislation, given final approval Tuesday by lawmakers, would conflict with the intent of voters when they approved a ballot initiative five years ago. Proposition 22 prevents California from recognizing same-sex marriages performed in other states or countries."We cannot have a system where the people vote and the Legislature derails that vote," the governor's press secretary, Margita Thompson, said in a statement. "Out of respect for the will of the people, the governor will veto (the bill)."
Got that? California voters enacted an initiative, Prop22, in 2000, to ban the state from recognizing marriages performed in other states or countries.
A September 2006 poll by the Public Policy Institute of California showed that 47 percent of likely voters in California support marriage for same-sex couples, while 46 percent oppose.
And Arnold plans to hide behind an unrelated, seven-year old ballot referendum, as he did two years ago, to justify thwarting the will of the people expressed through their elected representatives last week.
For Assemblyman Mark Leno’s (D-San Francisco), the bill's author, and for LGBT rights groups it is deja vu.“Two consecutive legislatures have now boldly and proudly affirmed the full, first class, and equal citizenship of all of Californians in loving and committed relationship who want their bond recognized and honored by the state in which they live and to which they contribute,” said Leno (D-San Francisco).
“My Senate colleagues recognized what an ever increasing number of fair-minded Californians also see - that marriage strengthens our society and singling same sex couples out of this important institution hurts us all,” he said.
We don't undertake direct-action alerts very often here at Sunday Late Nite. Arnold has until October 14th to sign or veto this bill -- please tell him: SIGN AB43, ARNOLD!
Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger
State Capitol Building
Sacramento, CA 95814
Phone: 916-445-2841
Fax: 916-445-4633
Many, many thanks from me, from my fiance (we've been engaged since February 13th, 2004 -- and we're still waiting!) and from good-hearted, equality-minded Californians everywhere. We are one autograph away from the largest state in the union mandating gender-neutral marriage.
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Hi everybody!
Did you tell the others, Al?
Hey TeddySanFran, Hi!
Oops, too slow…
TSF!!!
OT..No surprise..Patraeus wants another FU…From NYT
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What kind of fuckery is this?!?! Surely Ahnuld would never do something that would earn a tiny iota of respect from me.
TEDDY.
TeddySanFran @ 3
I just did. A marvellous post, TSF. Doubt the Governator will do it, but it never hurts to keep the pressure on.
Steve-AR @ 7
And it seems safe to suppose that our do-nothing Congress will give it to him.
“Fuck this fucking game!” –Crash Davis
Fuck Ahnold and the horse he rode in on - fucker couldn’t find his way outta a paper bag without written directions provided by the paper bag manufacturers association.
Good evening everyone!
California tends to lead the rest of the states…Ahnold needs to play pool or get the hell out of our way!
Suzanne @ 12
…for a fee, of course.
Suzanne @ 12
Don’t hold it in, Suz.
Suzanne @ 12
now, suz, quit holding back just because of your love and respect for Der Governator….
The boobengrabber.
The Gropenator.
Can’t relate to gays cause all he sees in a crowd of people is breasts.
Steve-AR @ 7
I am sorry but this man is beneath contempt.
You are signing a lot of death warrants for a shot a political stardom Mr. Petreaus.
Besides, why not leave, Bin Laden is a useless buffoon according to Fran Townsend.
George W. Bush, accountability is always six months away.
-GSD
Hi Teddy! I hope Arnold has the huevos to do the right thing and sign.
Um, Hate to say it but Shwarzenegger has already said he was going to veto this.
marymccurnin @ 17
or girlie-men.
-GSD
Loo Hoo-
Upside down in the garage. Whacked off 11″.
OT but important:
Moyers and Goldsmith (think Ashcroft Hospital Massacre) on PBS.com.
People have different thinking today about this issue than they did in 2000. My dad and his wife now have gay friends!
cahuenga @ 20
Then I hope the entire gay community turns out to piss on his grave when the time comes.
Arnold is coming around on this issue.
Perhaps.
-GSD
Even more OT:
Bush floats Silberman (yes THAT Silberman) as next AG.
Gaaaaaaaah!
Time to let the congresscritters know what will happen if they do that!
GSD @ 18
Certainly the dems won’t fall for it again…fool me once…
GSD @ 27
Blood es rusing ento yer peni… er muscles
Loo Hoo. @ 29
Bet me a $20 dollah donation to Jane they won’t! They’re perfectly willing to give Boosh anything he wants…
Loo Hoo. @ 29
fool me once..
fool me six times.
I always fall for it, I am such a fool.
This administration and the mechanization of demonization that pollutes the Republican ethos has been beneficial to the GLBT community.
First, we grow weary of a one-trick elephant.
Second, we grow weary of bullying asshats.
Waving to TSF!
Only the Right kind of Faith will do:
Suzanne @ 12
Who luvs ya, Arnold?
I really think, after the reception Arnold got this weekend at the GOP convention in Indian Wells, he might just say FUCK YOU to the California Republicans and sign AB43.
I have always been amazed at the “sanctity of marraige” arguments put forth against same sex marraige. As if a same sex couple being allowed to marry somehow diminishes my marraige. If these people are so concerned about the sanctity of marraige why are so many of them on their second or third spouse?
When it comes down to brass tacks, marraige is a legal contract between two parties. You can stand in front of any minister from any denomenation who can marry you. But unless and until you file the liscense with the state you are not married. As such it seems to me it is a simple legal discrimination against same sex couples.
Ahnold will likely shoot this down, I think he is still holding out hope that somehow the law will change and he can run for president. He signs this and he can kiss that dream goodbye as a Republican.
You’d think Arnie would be more supportive of gay marriage.
Arnold says: I can’t quit Lou.
-GSD
EvilDrPuma @ 14
or as we say in the patch, couldn’t pour piss out of a boot if the directions were wrote on the heel.
wangdangdoodle @ 23
Holy crap, that’s alot to cut off at once! Did you donate the hair? I get the jones to whack my hair off now and then, but mine is so processed and dyed that it is unusuable.
Elliott @ 32
Won’t get fooled again!
wangdangdoodle @ 40
every time!
TeddySanFran @ 35
What Arnold needs to do is pull his head out of his ass and become a democrat. He is one in many ways, so his “leftover” republican habits just get in the way. And yes he’s the gropenator, and yes he’s an asshat, and so what? I ain’t marrying the guy (disgustingly straight and I do apologize for it) and he ain’t marrying my son or daughter or grandson or granddaughter, so who cares? I view politicians as protcologists of the body politic. They have to unpack the crap that regularly jams up the flow of social functionality and get covered in the stuff doing it. As long as he votes progressive and doesn’t indulge his peccadilloes on the unwilling, he’s got my money and vote any day.
wangdangdoodle @ 23
Flash decision or had you been thinking about it for a while?
Are you happy with it?
Fuck Rick Perry.
-GSD
Loo Hoo,
How long is your hair now?
I didn’t think Republicans behaved that way. Don’t they just rattle their jewelry?
GSD @ 44
Too tired. Maybe tomorrow.
madmommy @ 39
Mostly dead ends. It didn’t come out much shorter, though, just layered. Learned it from my crazy ex-old man the drunk, he used to call it the Samurai hair cut.
Oilfieldguy @ 46
Maybe this will solidify Arnold’s vote on Health Care this week.
GSD @ 44
Rick Perry can go fuck himself. I have standards.
Oilfieldguy @ 46
The males only do it in the mens rooms, like peacocks spreading their plumage…
Evening all. Good luck with this Teddy. I know it means a lot to you and many others, but the Rethugs are scared shitless of Teh Gay. Even “moderate” Republicans like der Gropenator won’t touch it with your ten foot pole.
well here’s the solution and while it might not make it to law the first election cycle it WILL make it to law eventually if the democrats take this as their platform;
“the government should not be in the bussiness of deciding religous opinions on behalf of people or on behalf of their clergy
nor should the government be in the bussiness of sanctioning marriage, we cannot tell various religous beliefs what they must or must not believe, that is a choice between a person, their mate, their belief and their clergy.
the state will authorize civil unions and only civil unions, marriage should be sanctioned by those individuals themselves, or by their clergy.
the democrats do not condone nor condemn same sex marriage”
ba da BING
DrDick @ 52
Good Evening, Dr. (pause) Dick!
Loo Hoo. @ 43
Heh. A flash decision I had been thinking about for a while!
althespook @ 24
Wrong link, Al.
Ahnold sold my court ordered worker’s comp rights away to the worker’s comp insurance companies and big business for donations in return. Ahnold wants to be boosh ‘lite’- or at least get access to as many boosh donors as he can swindle.
fucker
There is no such thing as a moderate Republican. Their values lay in things, not in people.
EvilDrPuma @ 50
HA!
Oh! I need to make a correction to the comment I made last night about health care reform in cali. I thought is was a done deal but the vote is in a day or two. It looks very promising but you never know who the insurance companies will bribe well enough.
I don’t mean to suggest that we don’t join the parents and friends in their grief.
And I don’t mean to suggest that the local authorities in Provo did anything other than carry out their duties as best they could.
But why is there ALWAYS a dead white girl around when the MSM needs to distract low-information voters from focusing on the fuckery that’s afoot?
perris @ 53
No, we want and deserve the right to marry. Taking marriage away from other people plays into their “destroying the sanctity of marriage” argument.
Just give us regular marriage like everyone else, please.
Good evening Teddy. Hi pups.
Arnold…Yet another towering pile of fetid political acumen from the Dream Factory’s private preserve, in the tradition of Reagan, George Murphy, Sonny Bono, and now Sir Frederick of Hollywood.
Smack these lollygaggers around some more, Teddy.
;>)
Loo Hoo. @ 56
Oopsie. Try this one.
The males only do it in the mens rooms, like peacocks spreading their plumage…
But when a peacock displays, half the world only sees an ass.
And wassup with that name anyways?
Suzanne @ 58
It’s not like he’s hard up for money. Between his pile and the wife, they’ve got more than they could ever go through in a lifetime. What is it with the never-ending grubbing for the filthy lucre? Heaven knows I’d like to have a bit more in the bank, but at some point it just gets rediculous.
Hiya, Betsy!! Where you bean?
Elliott @ 41
We’ll see. I could be Pollyanna, but I’m thinking the dems have something.
The Bay Area Reporter has a more optimistic take on the chances of Gov S. signing this bill:
We shall see . . .
Suzanne @ 12
Hold up a sec, Suz. What’s up with this guilt-by-association thing?
The horse didn’t do anything wrong.
Suzanne @ 58
Ahnuld is an old fashioned “moderate” Republican. Moderate on social issues (unless it will cost him votes), but solidly in the pockets of the moneyed interests.
Suzanne @ 58
yep. my comments about supporting him were IF he switched…and stopped doing shit like that. Ain’t gonna happen, of course.
That’s exactly what Warren Beatty keeps telling him.
Gay marriage is coming — a lot sooner than later.
But should Arnold sign, Bill and I are going to have a nice quick no-frills wedding.
After all we’ve been together since 1971!
Hiya Texb!
TexBetsy @ 63
Good timing, Betsy. We were just dissing Rick Perry.
wangdangdoodle @ 69
Watching the Giants get injured and lose to the fuckin cowboys.
Loo Hoo. @ 69
I keep hoping so, Loo.
wangdangdoodle @ 23
I’ll take a guess. Is this to let us know you’re drying basil. Or that you found your well-h*ng husband with another woman?
Mary, I’ve had my hair short for about ten years now. Kinky/curly, so it is a lot faster and easier.
Oilfieldguy @ 66
what name? mine?
darkblack @ 64
Don’t forget that fountain of conservative talent….Fred ‘Gopher’ Grandy.
-GSD
David Ehrenstein @ 74
Jeebus David. You must be really, really old.:)
Before ahnold decides what to do about gay marriage, he will pray at the alter of st ronnie, asking himself, what would ronnie do?
TexBetsy @ 77
Must be a bit lonely living in Texas and hating the Cowboys. Personally, I can’t stand em!
EvilDrPuma @ 76
actually we were discussing spicing up his s*x life. Won’t happen, we’re either too tired or have standards…
Loo Hoo. @ 80
I am confused. Who cut their hair?
madmommy @ 86
my nephew is a cowboys fan. this is our second season together.
Suzanne @ 84
Enough said.
wangdangdoodle @ 68
Hey, TexB! Still no Gmail. :(:(
Calleyphornya. The land of fruits and nuts.
(joking prod to TSF)
Suzanne @ 84
Ronnie would ask Rock Hudson what he thinks.
TeddySanFran @ 62
nobody is destoying the sanctity of marriage, marriage is a word that means civil union and everyone married is in a civil union
this is a secular government not a religous government and we have to get religion out of government
marriage should have never been a part of our government and needs to be removed, the government has no bussiness in matters of religion or religous belief
of course the platform needs to be that if marriage isn’t removed from government then any union between consenting adults should enjoy the same rights no matter what their personal preferance is, however government needs to get out of the bussiness of religion and out of our private lives
TexBetsy @ 63
Hi Betsy. How did the Giants game turn out?
TexBetsy @ 88
It does make watching the games together more fun, everybody having a rooting interest.
Oilfieldguy @ 91
Watch who you’re prodding there, OFG — Teddy’s engaged.
marymccurnin @ 83
yeah and they’re also really really married. pieces of paper from some clerk mean nothing in such circumstances. A raise of the glass to David and Bill!