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		<title>By: Kenji</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/09/pushing-back/#comment-955101</link>
		<dc:creator>Kenji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 07:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Good post, Christy. But in “The Bangor Daily News has decided that it’s enormous personal connections to the Collins campaign should have been publicly disclosed up front to their readers, and that it’s close ties make things seem unseemly.  Duh.”, the “Duh” would read better if you used the word “its”.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post, Christy. But in “The Bangor Daily News has decided that it’s enormous personal connections to the Collins campaign should have been publicly disclosed up front to their readers, and that it’s close ties make things seem unseemly.  Duh.”, the “Duh” would read better if you used the word “its”.</p>
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		<title>By: bhatten</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/09/pushing-back/#comment-953831</link>
		<dc:creator>bhatten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 21:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;A couple of things:  I was flying late yesterday and the pilot came on to say something about often recognizing celebs.,etc and to tell there was a real hero on board today.  Turned out to be an vet from the mess we all know; everyone clapped and came together in respect.  Then the pilot said the vet is on the way for another 16 month tour…..Dear God, I thought I would be sick.  A completely unknown and unsafe future for a crazy lie from a crazy, lazy psycho Pres.  16 months for one who could be the child/grandchild of any of us.  A moment of palpable horror.  I needed to post.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Then this am I heard a post about surgery to remove the pain in the neck for Ms. Bush.  Wouldn’t divorce be easier?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple of things:  I was flying late yesterday and the pilot came on to say something about often recognizing celebs.,etc and to tell there was a real hero on board today.  Turned out to be an vet from the mess we all know; everyone clapped and came together in respect.  Then the pilot said the vet is on the way for another 16 month tour…..Dear God, I thought I would be sick.  A completely unknown and unsafe future for a crazy lie from a crazy, lazy psycho Pres.  16 months for one who could be the child/grandchild of any of us.  A moment of palpable horror.  I needed to post.</p>
<p>Then this am I heard a post about surgery to remove the pain in the neck for Ms. Bush.  Wouldn’t divorce be easier?</p>
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		<title>By: barkleyg</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/09/pushing-back/#comment-953785</link>
		<dc:creator>barkleyg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 20:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Another important reason we need media to have limits on how many media entries it is allowed to have in any 1 market and in the country in totality.&lt;br /&gt;
We need &lt;b&gt;media breakups instead of the Repug crazy attitude of media consolidation.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
   We need more than 1 voice in our communities!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another important reason we need media to have limits on how many media entries it is allowed to have in any 1 market and in the country in totality.<br />
We need <b>media breakups instead of the Repug crazy attitude of media consolidation.<br />
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   We need more than 1 voice in our communities!</p>
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		<title>By: sumpls</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/09/pushing-back/#comment-953781</link>
		<dc:creator>sumpls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 20:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Great post, Christy.I always look forward to your newest posts (and I don’t care about the links being slow, if they are- which is rare- no big deal. My little dog jumps up in my lap every so often to distract me so I have to apologize to everyone if I’m sometimes scattered.)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Also, thanks to commentor on Dodd. I will have to look at his book.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, Christy.I always look forward to your newest posts (and I don’t care about the links being slow, if they are- which is rare- no big deal. My little dog jumps up in my lap every so often to distract me so I have to apologize to everyone if I’m sometimes scattered.)</p>
<p>Also, thanks to commentor on Dodd. I will have to look at his book.</p>
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		<title>By: things come undone</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/09/pushing-back/#comment-953752</link>
		<dc:creator>things come undone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 20:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Mods I mispelled Christy’s name toward the bottom of my comment&lt;br /&gt;
@ 57 could you fix this please.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Mod note: fixed&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mods I mispelled Christy’s name toward the bottom of my comment<br />
@ 57 could you fix this please.</p>
<p><i>Mod note: fixed</i></p>
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		<title>By: things come undone</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/09/pushing-back/#comment-953747</link>
		<dc:creator>things come undone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 20:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Are we fighting a war for oil? Well Maybe we can judge what we are fighting for by looking at what the does the President and the press talk the most about to determine what they seem to want the most from Iraq.&lt;br /&gt;
     When ever political benchmarks in Iraq are discussed somehow an oil law is always mentioned.&lt;br /&gt;
       Not protecting civil liberties, minorities, or religous rights (which I’m guessing are the benchmarks)?&lt;br /&gt;
         If were not in a war for oil then lets poll the American people and see how many Iraqi Political benchmarks besides the oil law the American people can name  (I confess that except for the oil law I don’t know for sure a what a single benchmark for progress in Iraq is…sob! I’m so uninformed! )&lt;br /&gt;
     But I like most Americans listen to the news and the President a few times a week at least. But all I hear from the news, from the President is their disapointment that the new oil law has not been passed.&lt;br /&gt;
     Oil this is all the President and the Pundits talk about. Oil is the only real Benchmark. We went to war for oil nothing else matters.&lt;br /&gt;
      Go ahead ask all your friends what are the other political benchmarks for succes in Iraq?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are we fighting a war for oil? Well Maybe we can judge what we are fighting for by looking at what the does the President and the press talk the most about to determine what they seem to want the most from Iraq.<br />
     When ever political benchmarks in Iraq are discussed somehow an oil law is always mentioned.<br />
       Not protecting civil liberties, minorities, or religous rights (which I’m guessing are the benchmarks)?<br />
         If were not in a war for oil then lets poll the American people and see how many Iraqi Political benchmarks besides the oil law the American people can name  (I confess that except for the oil law I don’t know for sure a what a single benchmark for progress in Iraq is…sob! I’m so uninformed! )<br />
     But I like most Americans listen to the news and the President a few times a week at least. But all I hear from the news, from the President is their disapointment that the new oil law has not been passed.<br />
     Oil this is all the President and the Pundits talk about. Oil is the only real Benchmark. We went to war for oil nothing else matters.<br />
      Go ahead ask all your friends what are the other political benchmarks for succes in Iraq?</p>
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		<title>By: things come undone</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/09/pushing-back/#comment-953733</link>
		<dc:creator>things come undone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 19:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;” Jeebus, wake up and read some Sun Tzu, you morons, and stop falling for the Bin Laden propaganda manipulations.  You’re making America less safe by acting like a bunch of ninnies.”&lt;br /&gt;
        Pumpkin Head I believe had some experts talking about how the GOP was going to run on how they understood the terroists and the terroist threat because more Americans trust them on the issue.&lt;br /&gt;
        Yeah right! Bush thinks that Ossama hates us for our freedom? Bush seems to think Iraq had ties to Al Quieda? That fighting in Iraq will somehow stop Ossama in Pakistan?&lt;br /&gt;
     Socrates and Sun Tze both said ” Know thy Self ” to which Sun Tze went further and said  ” know thy enemy and in a thousand battles a thousand victories.”&lt;br /&gt;
       I don’t think Bush knows his enemy or anything about why Osama fights. I think he confuses the Iraqi’s reasons for fighting with Osamas’s.&lt;br /&gt;
       I don’t think Bush know himself, he cannot admit to himself that he is fighting an amoral war for oil. This is why we are loosing! Well that and as Christy implies Ossama is playing Bush and the Beltway as a bunch of Chumps.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>” Jeebus, wake up and read some Sun Tzu, you morons, and stop falling for the Bin Laden propaganda manipulations.  You’re making America less safe by acting like a bunch of ninnies.”<br />
        Pumpkin Head I believe had some experts talking about how the GOP was going to run on how they understood the terroists and the terroist threat because more Americans trust them on the issue.<br />
        Yeah right! Bush thinks that Ossama hates us for our freedom? Bush seems to think Iraq had ties to Al Quieda? That fighting in Iraq will somehow stop Ossama in Pakistan?<br />
     Socrates and Sun Tze both said ” Know thy Self ” to which Sun Tze went further and said  ” know thy enemy and in a thousand battles a thousand victories.”<br />
       I don’t think Bush knows his enemy or anything about why Osama fights. I think he confuses the Iraqi’s reasons for fighting with Osamas’s.<br />
       I don’t think Bush know himself, he cannot admit to himself that he is fighting an amoral war for oil. This is why we are loosing! Well that and as Christy implies Ossama is playing Bush and the Beltway as a bunch of Chumps.</p>
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		<title>By: kdh22</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/09/pushing-back/#comment-953732</link>
		<dc:creator>kdh22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 19:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-953713&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;TJ @ 54&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Listening to military people talk about the logistics of withdrawal, I’m beginning to think there is no way to safely remove our equipment.  I would like to see a comparison of the costs to get the equipment home versus taking everything into the desert, blowing it up, and building new.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That comparison would be very interesting. I think the possibility of it ever happening would be in comparison to defunding…not.gonna.happen.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-953713"><em>TJ @ 54</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Listening to military people talk about the logistics of withdrawal, I’m beginning to think there is no way to safely remove our equipment.  I would like to see a comparison of the costs to get the equipment home versus taking everything into the desert, blowing it up, and building new.</p>
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<p>That comparison would be very interesting. I think the possibility of it ever happening would be in comparison to defunding…not.gonna.happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Arnie</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/09/pushing-back/#comment-953714</link>
		<dc:creator>Arnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 19:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Was informed that an Alex Jones was arrested in NYC today. Since they are unfamiliar to me, is this important?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was informed that an Alex Jones was arrested in NYC today. Since they are unfamiliar to me, is this important?</p>
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		<title>By: TJ</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/09/pushing-back/#comment-953713</link>
		<dc:creator>TJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 19:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Listening to military people talk about the logistics of withdrawal, I’m beginning to think there is no way to safely remove our equipment.  I would like to see a comparison of the costs to get the equipment home versus taking everything into the desert, blowing it up, and building new.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Listening to military people talk about the logistics of withdrawal, I’m beginning to think there is no way to safely remove our equipment.  I would like to see a comparison of the costs to get the equipment home versus taking everything into the desert, blowing it up, and building new.</p>
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