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		<title>By: bob h</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/07/who-cares/#comment-951798</link>
		<dc:creator>bob h</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 11:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Whatever its tactical accomplishments, the surge is a time-dependent phenomenon.  It is going to be gone by election day.  No one can say that it works without the political reconciliation.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever its tactical accomplishments, the surge is a time-dependent phenomenon.  It is going to be gone by election day.  No one can say that it works without the political reconciliation.</p>
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		<title>By: innisfree</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/07/who-cares/#comment-951396</link>
		<dc:creator>innisfree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 06:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;okay, have to just holler to the heavens (I know this is an old thread, and I haven’t even had a chance to read the other comments), but I took one look at that photo and I just exploded — Bush managed, yet again, to find someone (it must be getting harder and harder to do so, unless they’re breeding them) shorter than him, with a smaller head, with no discernible neck, and (I’ll wager) with a higher voice and equally undescended testicles (Abu Gonzales, anyone?) … Why doesn’t SOMEone just call him on this, face to face, and let’s be done with it!!!!!!!!!! help, I can’t breathe.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>okay, have to just holler to the heavens (I know this is an old thread, and I haven’t even had a chance to read the other comments), but I took one look at that photo and I just exploded — Bush managed, yet again, to find someone (it must be getting harder and harder to do so, unless they’re breeding them) shorter than him, with a smaller head, with no discernible neck, and (I’ll wager) with a higher voice and equally undescended testicles (Abu Gonzales, anyone?) … Why doesn’t SOMEone just call him on this, face to face, and let’s be done with it!!!!!!!!!! help, I can’t breathe.</p>
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		<title>By: mls</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/07/who-cares/#comment-951269</link>
		<dc:creator>mls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 05:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Maybe this guy could use his program on the Bin Laden tape. &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2007/08/researchers-ana.html&quot;&gt;http://blog.wired.com/27bstrok.....s-ana.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe this guy could use his program on the Bin Laden tape. <a href="http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2007/08/researchers-ana.html">http://blog.wired.com/27bstrok&#8230;..s-ana.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Eli</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/07/who-cares/#comment-950974</link>
		<dc:creator>Eli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 03:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-950957&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;casual observer @ 283&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Another sign of executive contempt for congress.  And they are part of the problem, because they allow it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m sure they’ll send him a strongly worded letter.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-950957"><em>casual observer @ 283</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Another sign of executive contempt for congress.  And they are part of the problem, because they allow it.</p>
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<p>I’m sure they’ll send him a strongly worded letter.</p>
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		<title>By: casual observer</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/07/who-cares/#comment-950957</link>
		<dc:creator>casual observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 03:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Another sign of executive contempt for congress.  And they are part of the problem, because they allow it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another sign of executive contempt for congress.  And they are part of the problem, because they allow it.</p>
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		<title>By: Eli</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/07/who-cares/#comment-950932</link>
		<dc:creator>Eli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 03:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-950927&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;casual observer @ 281&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-950866&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Eli @ 280&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;I’m not afraid to listen to him.  I just don’t think what he says is going to be very truthful, considering that he’s already cooking the casualty numbers.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And as I keep repeating, we *already* know that The Surge isn’t working; it’s been confirmed by three different reports, all of which are far more plausibly non-partisan than Petraeus or the White House.  It would be different if Petraeus’s testimony was the *only* report on The Surge, but it’s not - it’s simply the most partisan and least credible one.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He’s mandated to give the report–is that not correct?  It’s not as if he has a choice.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I personally have most faith in the GAO report. And unlike O’Hanlon, I think rigor is a &lt;em&gt;good thing.&lt;/em&gt;   But the GAO Comptroller General told congress in hearing that Petraeus likely had better information in certain areas than GAO did.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He’s mandated to testify to Congress about the progress; the president is mandated to give the report… but apparently won’t.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-950927"><em>casual observer @ 281</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-950866"><em>Eli @ 280</em></a></p>
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<p>I’m not afraid to listen to him.  I just don’t think what he says is going to be very truthful, considering that he’s already cooking the casualty numbers.</p>
<p>And as I keep repeating, we *already* know that The Surge isn’t working; it’s been confirmed by three different reports, all of which are far more plausibly non-partisan than Petraeus or the White House.  It would be different if Petraeus’s testimony was the *only* report on The Surge, but it’s not &#8211; it’s simply the most partisan and least credible one.</p>
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<p>He’s mandated to give the report–is that not correct?  It’s not as if he has a choice.  </p>
<p>I personally have most faith in the GAO report. And unlike O’Hanlon, I think rigor is a <em>good thing.</em>   But the GAO Comptroller General told congress in hearing that Petraeus likely had better information in certain areas than GAO did.</p>
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<p>He’s mandated to testify to Congress about the progress; the president is mandated to give the report… but apparently won’t.</p>
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		<title>By: casual observer</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/07/who-cares/#comment-950927</link>
		<dc:creator>casual observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 03:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-950866&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Eli @ 280&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-950853&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;casual observer @ 279&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Eli,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If his report is bullshit, then that will readily be apparent, I hope.  But it would not be consistent with a liberal approach, in my view, to judge what he is going to say before he says it.  As liberals, we are not &lt;em&gt;afraid&lt;/em&gt; to listen to people, even if we don’t agree with them.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m not afraid to listen to him.  I just don’t think what he says is going to be very truthful, considering that he’s already cooking the casualty numbers.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And as I keep repeating, we *already* know that The Surge isn’t working; it’s been confirmed by three different reports, all of which are far more plausibly non-partisan than Petraeus or the White House.  It would be different if Petraeus’s testimony was the *only* report on The Surge, but it’s not - it’s simply the most partisan and least credible one.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He’s mandated to give the report–is that not correct?  It’s not as if he has a choice.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I personally have most faith in the GAO report. And unlike O’Hanlon, I think rigor is a &lt;em&gt;good thing.&lt;/em&gt;   But the GAO Comptroller General told congress in hearing that Petraeus likely had better information in certain areas than GAO did.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-950866"><em>Eli @ 280</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-950853"><em>casual observer @ 279</em></a></p>
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<p>Eli,</p>
<p>If his report is bullshit, then that will readily be apparent, I hope.  But it would not be consistent with a liberal approach, in my view, to judge what he is going to say before he says it.  As liberals, we are not <em>afraid</em> to listen to people, even if we don’t agree with them.</p>
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<p>I’m not afraid to listen to him.  I just don’t think what he says is going to be very truthful, considering that he’s already cooking the casualty numbers.</p>
<p>And as I keep repeating, we *already* know that The Surge isn’t working; it’s been confirmed by three different reports, all of which are far more plausibly non-partisan than Petraeus or the White House.  It would be different if Petraeus’s testimony was the *only* report on The Surge, but it’s not &#8211; it’s simply the most partisan and least credible one.</p>
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<p>He’s mandated to give the report–is that not correct?  It’s not as if he has a choice.  </p>
<p>I personally have most faith in the GAO report. And unlike O’Hanlon, I think rigor is a <em>good thing.</em>   But the GAO Comptroller General told congress in hearing that Petraeus likely had better information in certain areas than GAO did.</p>
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		<title>By: Eli</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/07/who-cares/#comment-950866</link>
		<dc:creator>Eli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 03:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-950853&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;casual observer @ 279&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-950789&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Eli @ 276&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My point is that three impartial reports have already told us The Surge is a failure.  I can’t imagine what Petraeus can say that would convince any rational person that the White House spin is correct, and those three other reports are all wrong.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Eli,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If his report is bullshit, then that will readily be apparent, I hope.  But it would not be consistent with a liberal approach, in my view, to judge what he is going to say before he says it.  As liberals, we are not &lt;em&gt;afraid&lt;/em&gt; to listen to people, even if we don’t agree with them.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m not afraid to listen to him.  I just don’t think what he says is going to be very truthful, considering that he’s already cooking the casualty numbers.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And as I keep repeating, we *already* know that The Surge isn’t working; it’s been confirmed by three different reports, all of which are far more plausibly non-partisan than Petraeus or the White House.  It would be different if Petraeus’s testimony was the *only* report on The Surge, but it’s not - it’s simply the most partisan and least credible one.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-950853"><em>casual observer @ 279</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-950789"><em>Eli @ 276</em></a></p>
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<p>My point is that three impartial reports have already told us The Surge is a failure.  I can’t imagine what Petraeus can say that would convince any rational person that the White House spin is correct, and those three other reports are all wrong.</p>
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<p>Eli,</p>
<p>If his report is bullshit, then that will readily be apparent, I hope.  But it would not be consistent with a liberal approach, in my view, to judge what he is going to say before he says it.  As liberals, we are not <em>afraid</em> to listen to people, even if we don’t agree with them.</p>
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<p>I’m not afraid to listen to him.  I just don’t think what he says is going to be very truthful, considering that he’s already cooking the casualty numbers.</p>
<p>And as I keep repeating, we *already* know that The Surge isn’t working; it’s been confirmed by three different reports, all of which are far more plausibly non-partisan than Petraeus or the White House.  It would be different if Petraeus’s testimony was the *only* report on The Surge, but it’s not &#8211; it’s simply the most partisan and least credible one.</p>
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		<title>By: casual observer</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/07/who-cares/#comment-950853</link>
		<dc:creator>casual observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 03:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-950789&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Eli @ 276&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-950750&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;casual observer @ 258&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Eli, I can’t answer that, because I’m not clairvoyant.  Or is it telepathic?  I can never keep that stuff straight.  My only and extemely simple point is I don’t see how one can argue with his report until he’s given it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My point is that three impartial reports have already told us The Surge is a failure.  I can’t imagine what Petraeus can say that would convince any rational person that the White House spin is correct, and those three other reports are all wrong.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Eli,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If his report is bullshit, then that will readily be apparent, I hope.  But it would not be consistent with a liberal approach, in my view, to judge what he is going to say before he says it.  As liberals, we are not &lt;em&gt;afraid&lt;/em&gt; to listen to people, even if we don’t agree with them.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-950789"><em>Eli @ 276</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-950750"><em>casual observer @ 258</em></a></p>
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<p>Eli, I can’t answer that, because I’m not clairvoyant.  Or is it telepathic?  I can never keep that stuff straight.  My only and extemely simple point is I don’t see how one can argue with his report until he’s given it.</p>
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<p>My point is that three impartial reports have already told us The Surge is a failure.  I can’t imagine what Petraeus can say that would convince any rational person that the White House spin is correct, and those three other reports are all wrong.</p>
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<p>Eli,</p>
<p>If his report is bullshit, then that will readily be apparent, I hope.  But it would not be consistent with a liberal approach, in my view, to judge what he is going to say before he says it.  As liberals, we are not <em>afraid</em> to listen to people, even if we don’t agree with them.</p>
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		<title>By: LimaBN</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/07/who-cares/#comment-950832</link>
		<dc:creator>LimaBN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 03:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the photo.&lt;br /&gt;
Makes it easy to figure out why Petraeus got that 4th star - he’s shorter than Chimpy.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the photo.<br />
Makes it easy to figure out why Petraeus got that 4th star &#8211; he’s shorter than Chimpy.</p>
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