Kathleen @ 36

I know Foxman was so reactionary, instead of stating facts he repeated the standard “anti-semitic” response, this is just not going to work any longer. Walt represented the wide spectrum of Jewish voters more than Foxman did. Walt made it clear that the right wing zealots who pushed for the invasion of Iraq did not reflect the larger Jewish population in the states.

I didn’t hear the whole show: just a little bit of it. But what I did hear is just the opposite of what you state. Foxman responded to the charge that it was a Jewish cabal that led us into Iraq, by pointing out the diversity of opinion within the Jewish community before the war.

No he didn’t. He used words like sinister and most dangerous to describe anything the book and its authors for daring to be critical of A*PAC’S influence and the idea that this influence is a potential
liability strategically. Whether you agree or not with the book, that reaction to it questionable. He also would not let Terry Gross interact and would go on and on repeating himself like a bully. Listened to it twice

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Kathleen @ 39

“What Hillary Hides” at American Conservative.

Interesting http://www.amconmag.com/2007/2007_08_27/article.ht

I was surprised when Brzezinski came out in support of Obama

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/…..refer=home

I don’t care for Obama either.

Brzezinski is a pretty conservative Dem, a “realist”. But, I think his brand of foreign policy would fit in better with Edwards than with Obama.

Maybe they should get together and talk foreign policy (Zbig and Edwards that is).

althespook @ 152

yes but those were city busters. the tac nuke penetrators planned for use in situations such as natanz are in the 1 to 5 kiloton range and designed to explode underground. unless the blast hole vents heavily, i don’t expect serious radiological casualties beyond the immediate area. However, as I noted above, NONE of these puppies have been used in real combat. And since the ban on testing, they haven’t even been detonated, just simulated.

This was how bunker busters were sold. The facts are otherwise. They can not penetrate sufficiently into the ground to damp down the release of radiation or even diminish very much the explosive effects. What’s more because they will penetrate some way into the ground they will be more likely to kick up dirt and dust and will tend to propagate the radiological effects over a larger area.

given the relatively high failure rate of previous conventional bunker penetrators, i tend to believe you. I fear we may empirical data far too soon…

Hugh @ 150

Actually this is what an observer would observe about you. You would feel normal but the rest of the universe would look mighty strange.

correct. i was being snarqy not accurate, relativistically speaking…

Sorry, the batteries on my snark monitor are running low. *g*

yes but those were city busters. the tac nuke penetrators planned for use in situations such as natanz are in the 1 to 5 kiloton range and designed to explode underground. unless the blast hole vents heavily, i don’t expect serious radiological casualties beyond the immediate area. However, as I noted above, NONE of these puppies have been used in real combat. And since the ban on testing, they haven’t even been detonated, just simulated.

This was how bunker busters were sold. The facts are otherwise. They can not penetrate sufficiently into the ground to damp down the release of radiation or even diminish very much the explosive effects. What’s more because they will penetrate some way into the ground they will be more likely to kick up dirt and dust and will tend to propagate the radiological effects over a larger area.

althespook @ 145

and your length goes to zero. Just to make your life interesting. and of course time (for you not for anyone else) eventually comes to a stop, but you’re probably beyond caring at that point…

Question my length and you‘ll lose a friend *g*.

it’s all a matter of relative relationships…:)

althespook @ 133

no, i don’t think so. centrifuge work has the hot materials so spread out they can’t go fissile, and despite a lot of bad movies and sf, the radiation from a nuke all vanishes in a few nanoseconds (”shakes”) long before the plasma could vaporize the uranium enough to possibly participate.

Now it these were boosted fusion weapons, that would be another matter. The first boosted fusion bomb was much larger than expected. Oppenheimer got everyone off the atoll because he had a “bad feeling”. good thing.

I was talking about the political and radiological effects of the weapons themselves and not what might or might not be running through the Iranian centrifuges at the time. A-bombs do have radiological effects has many victims from Hiroshima and Nagasaki can attest.

yes but those were city busters. the tac nuke penetrators planned for use in situations such as natanz are in the 1 to 5 kiloton range and designed to explode underground. unless the blast hole vents heavily, i don’t expect serious radiological casualties beyond the immediate area. However, as I noted above, NONE of these puppies have been used in real combat. And since the ban on testing, they haven’t even been detonated, just simulated.

althespook @ 145

and your length goes to zero. Just to make your life interesting. and of course time (for you not for anyone else) eventually comes to a stop, but you’re probably beyond caring at that point…

Actually this is what an observer would observe about you. You would feel normal but the rest of the universe would look mighty strange.

correct. i was being snarqy not accurate, relativistically speaking…

and your length goes to zero. Just to make your life interesting. and of course time (for you not for anyone else) eventually comes to a stop, but you’re probably beyond caring at that point…

Actually this is what an observer would observe about you. You would feel normal but the rest of the universe would look mighty strange.