This is a clip of Amy Winehouse singing at the UK’s Mercury Awards last night. Sigh. She sounds amazing and looks a little less frighteningly emaciated, but I still can’t help but worry that something awful is going to happen.
Oh, and there was this in the news yesterday:
JERUSALEM – Archaeologists digging in northern Israel have discovered evidence of a 3,000-year-old beekeeping industry, including remnants of ancient honeycombs, beeswax and what they believe are the oldest intact beehives ever found.
When reached for comment, all of them denied having ever lived on Amy Winehouse’s head.
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TRex!!!
someday you’re going to do an early late late nite post, which will then sit unzedded for a few minutes…
3
oh my!
still up …. ah, Late Nite FDL!
zeddish!
peanutbutter @ 2
If I don’t think about it too hard, I understand that.
‘night TRex, be sweet.
newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 5
tired, i mean, Late-Late
Top Ten?
Her voice is amazing, though she never looks particularly well.
zennurse @ 8
Like arsenic?
g’nite zennurse
non-zed
CTuttle @ 10
Whew…!!!
God, she sounds incredible. She’d sound even better with another 40 pounds on her. Fat people have richer, more luxurious voices. My friend Sharla says fat singers’ vocal cords are lined with velvet.
OK, I made to latelate. Now I can crash.
G’nite G’people!
{{{MWAH!}}}
CTuttle @ 15
And it’s only the top ten cause the original zed is gone! *badabing!*
wangdangdoodle @ 17
Nighty! Sleep tight!
RIP Pavarotti.
BTW, larry craig is off the hook. and the bleeding constitution is the reason. dagnabbit.
linky.
grumble snarl fuss
g’nite wangdang (and any other sleepy pups i may have missed)
God, there’s that jerkoff husband of hers. She didn’t even get two paces off the stage before he’s on her, arm hooked around her neck again like a chain on an anchor.
Grrrrrrrrrr.
*eyes narrow to slits*
Eureka Springs @ 20
Oh, no!
Christ, it is a nightmare.
We have this fucking callow fool running around the world saying shit like “we’re kicking ass” to other world leaders.
-GSD
Eureka Springs @ 20
Oh no, I didn’t know!
TRex @ 23
rut roh – trex’s tail is starting to curl
wangdangdoodle @ 17
{{{MWAH!}}} back at ya, o queen of jazz picks. (and sweet dreams)
TRex @ 23
Easy, big boy…!!! ;-)
via Machman on omniBB (a private shell-based bulletin board)
“… Rodney Tom has dropped out of the Democratic primary for WA-08 and endorsed Darcy Burner. Apparently, Tom was very gracious in his concession, and also citied the Burn Bush Fundraiser for Darcy as the
main reason for why he dropped out.”
more …
Rodney Tom has dropped out of the Democratic primary for WA-08
Milk and Honey, Baby — Milk and Honey . . .
Is the War over yet?
Did our Tribe win?
Any Bay Area FDL’ers out there? There’s gonna be a Meet-n-Greet Saturday in SF with a few of the East Coast Atriots, including a certain Snark Queen you might be familiar with.
Details here!
Show your FDL decoder ring at the door and you just might get a free prize (maybe… we’ll see…)!
TRex @ 24
the only good thing is that apparently it was quick, and they knew it was coming so he had a chance to say his goodbyes.
Nite, sleepers!!!
31 Once?
swag @ 30
good news (could use some for sure) thanks
althespook @ 33
Pancreatic cancer, liver shut down…!!! 8-(
EPUd
For those wondering, a friend who has very good knowledge and sources says Barksdale is indeed a decommissioning location; however, they say there is no chance that this was about decommissioning and no chance this was an accident. Either some air force guys are going rogue and sending a message to stop the Administration’s plans for Iran or somebody caught on to an actual Administrating plan.
TRex @ 16
Trex, this woman’s voice knocks me out. The incredible Brazilian Virginia Rodrigues
CTuttle @ 37
too fast for a transplant and probably there was other damage as well.
bmaz @ 38
thank you bmaz. you have just given my scenario the gold seal of approval. shit. fuck. my minder is going to go ballistic. I may end up back in DC yet dammit…
awesome marketing campaign eh ?
bmaz @ 38
But, Bmaz, it’s also a known nuclear repository and transfer site…! I’ve flown in and out of Barksdale, heh, had a Barksdale FCU account…!!!
TRex @ 12
and old lays
Margot @ 26
Nessun Dorma
he lives
punaise @ 44
*groan*
just cuz she’s my favorite female vocalist, here’s another Virginia Rodrigues
When I try to listen to the Amy Winehouse YouTube above, it plays for a few bars and then quits. Anyone else have that problem?
bmaz @ 38
Ok, tell me exactly what you mean. I may be reading too much into what you said or too little.
bmaz @ 38
The first part is helpful knowledge. The latter is not…. :(
dave @ 32
ooooh, tempting….
neurophius @ 48
Worked well for me.
i made it to late late night yeahhh now its beddy-bye – got to get granddaughter up for school …nite all….
nighty night for me too…catch up with y’all later…
montag @ 50
Hey, I am Sgt. Schultz – I know nothsing. I have dutifully related an answer I was given to a question that was asked.
waving g’nite to all the leaving sleep pups
Nite, Juslin and PB!!!
bmaz @ 55
Hey, we don’t kill the messenger here. :)
just got off the phone with my minder. he says six would be enough, set on maxiumum yield, to take out the bulk of the iranian military, assuming one is dropped on natanz. time them to all go off at once from a lone b52 and fire them in standoff mode from iraq. these are stealthed cruises so the iranian radars would not track them. the bad news is that about 1 million civilians would be killed immediately and problem triple that long term.
The beauty part: totally deniable for the us. The boosh line: “Those iranians secretly built nuclear weapons for use against israel and the us and they went off prematurely.”
high level people are on this right now. the crew is being debriefed like never before in their young lives. if this was cheney’s doing ghod help him.
althespook @ 59
Well, except for one thing. Every device has a radiological signature, and that would be… one of ours.
I couldn’t understand any of her lyrics. Is this because I have a son into rap (and I like!) or HONESTY?
CTuttle @ 43
That’s how you hide things in plain sight. if this was routine nobody would have squawked about it.
punaise @ 51
Dang, where can I get me one of those fancy rings?!!! I swear they don’t tell me nut’ing around heah…!!! ;-)
montag @ 60
Not to mention that the whole freakin world knows that the Iranians are years away from having anything of the kind.
althespook @ 62
From my EPUed reply in the last thread:
Now, I’m going to throw you a ringer, in this regard. Remember what an Air Depot Squadron did, in the old days? That’s right…. Where’s the biggest one in Europe? That’s right…. What’s their main stockpile right now? That’s right…. If they were told to use them, orders being orders, they probably would.
No one in the US need know what’s happening there…. There were a great many flights flown out of that host country during the “shock and awe” portion of the invasion. So, is Barksdale critical? Or just a screw-up?
Note Bush is out of country.
CTuttle @ 63
oh, that explains everything – mine is labeled “deek odor ring”
Not to mention that the whole freakin world knows that the Iranians are years away from having anything of the kind.
anything nukular and the whole freakin world is gonna turn and look right at boosh and cheeney
montag @ 60
radiation signatures are just a scientific theory, like evolution. not proven.
if they can sell sadam as being the sponsor of 9/11, they could sell the other bullshit.
OF COURSE everyone with any technical knowhow would know. but i’ll bet it would never appear on any us or murdoch controlled channel…
I hope everyone understands i’m playing devils advocate here. I hope i’m wrong, or if i’m not this gets scotched fast.
Great video, Dinodog! I showed it to the whole family. Ms. ET becoming a big Amy Winehouse fan.
where are my manners? compliments for the Fascionista post, TRex.
punaise @ 67
707!!!
Ed*ard Teller @ 70
ET, you continue to surprise me. Same as when you first arrived at FDL. ;) ;) {{{ET}}} xxoo
Oh, and there was this in the news yesterday:
And in a related note (from the BBC a few weeks ago):
Beer is very important in archaeology. I once went to an archaeology conference with Ms. Redshift where there was an entire track of beer-related papers. *g*
montag @ 65
and that is the central point that is AGAINST my theory and a good one. However, if this is a rogue op, the european stockpiles might not be available.
It really all comes down to three points:
1) who authorized the release of the nukes?
2) who scheduled the flight to barksdale?
3) where were the nukes supposed to go?
once we know that, we’ll know what was going down. Not the general public who will be fed the “decom” story line, but the guys who need to know.
montag @ 65
althespook @ 69
Just playing devil’s advocate? You’re scaring people shitless. Including me. If you’re just spinning theories to amuse yourself I suggest you pick another topic.
Maybe Chimpy saw the housing numbers and figured a little nuke here or there aint gonna make a difference.
-GS
Valley Girl,
Thanks! Hang on, I’m going to put something up at my url for you…
ET – how is Alaska tonight?
CTuttle @ 76
Actually, no. In the country to which I refer, they do not speak German. :)
Fern @ 77
i would never do that. i am just as scared as you are. but i keep hoping that some fact will appear that shows I am wrong. This is what analysts like myself do. Assume the absolute worst case scenario and plan to survive it. then work your way back to what might really happen. It is sometimes called “capability analysis”.
I don’t want any of this to happen. but given what we know now, I am very very concerned.
Kommander Coo-Coo Bananas wants you to know something.
EVERYONE is watching HIM.
“I fully understand that the enemy watches me, the Iraqis are watching me, the troops watch me, and the people watch me,” he said. Yet, he said, “I do tears.”
-GSD
GSD @ 83
tears for fears
montag @ 81
Capiche…!!! ;-)
GSD @ 83
Yep, he says, “I do tears” like most people say “do lunch.”
All the Bush men know how to cry on demand….
punaise @ 84
Everybody wants to rule the world.
-GSD
GSD @ 83
If this b*st*rd drops theatre nukes on Iran, they will award him a lifetime tissue supply…in his cell at the hague or whereever genocidal war criminals do their time in that system. I don’t think anything could save him from that at that point.
althespook @ 69
Not buying that part. If they were planning a “deniable” nuclear attack on Iran they wouldn’t have spent weeks of every-increasing saber-rattling and dubious claims of Iranian involvement in everything that’s going wrong for them.
If you pick a fight with a guy in a bar and loudly tell everyone that he’s going to be sorry he messed with you, when his house burns down no one is going to buy your story that he must have been storing flammable materials in his basement.
Plus, if there are six of them in different locations (which will be detectable by seismic monitors all over the world), no one’s going to believe that they all went off by accident simultaneously.
I get the feeling that history is putting Bush in the Saddam Hussein, Manuel Noreiga box and nowhere near the Churchill, Truman section.
-GSD
CTuttle @ 85
Uh, no. You’re getting colder.
GSD @ 90
ya think?
punaise @ 92
Yep.
-GSD
Redshift @ 89
you are probably right, for people who think. but what i’m concerned about is that this is a rogue op by people who think only superficially. Like “the oil will pay for the war” or “they’ll greet us as liberators with candy and flowers”, or “just a few dead enders left now.”.
Ever watched faux news? my “blurb” would play perfectly well on that channel, verbatim. Scary.
montag @ 91
I’m thinking a little further east.
don’t forget Poland!
that blasted bulgarian judge?
Fern @ 95
Everyone’s a critic…!!! :p
GSD @ 93
Bush gets close second to crazy King Ludwig, Cheney gets honorable mention in the Vlad the Impaler room of Madame Tussaud’s….
Suzanne @ 80
Nice sunset. Getting ready to finally go back to work tomorrow. Uploading a song for VG at my url…
ET, ok if I go over and sneak a listen to?
Suzanne @ 101
linky?
So, this by Glenn Greenwald nails right-wing macho in ways that it hasn’t been nailed since Molly passed. God bless her!
I’m sorry, but how the heck could somebody get lost for four days in Brisbane, CA? It’s the suburb between SF and South SF, in the flight path of SFO…lots of rolling hills and open space.
montag @ 99
Vlad must be an early visage of Dick, I’m positive they share a direct lineage…!!!
CTuttle @ 98
Okay, east is wrong. Since I’d sort of like to remain somewhat anonymous, what I’m talking about is not new news, but rather, a fifty-year span of history that is still playing out.
Let’s just say that it has to do with a “special relationship.”
Talking about nukes, reminds me of the time when a Titan II blew-up in it’s silo and threw the thermo-nuclear war head into a corn field. That was ~50 miles from my house. I don’t remember a lot of worry at the time. The Air Force just retrieved it and cleaned up the mess.
althespook @ 102
click on ETs name or here
punaise @ 104
alzheimers or more to the story. that’s too urban an area for a competent person to stay lost in for that long.
montag @ 106
blimey, ole chap – just say so!
montag @ 106
The House of Bush-Saud?
Steve-AR @ 107
is that on the list of known nuclear accidents? don’t recall hearing of it? Those were the liquid fueled jobbie IIRC. nasty nasty stuff. lots of accidents which is why the minuteman solid fuel booster was developed asap.
punaise @ 110
I preferred not, because I was, tangentially, a part of that “special relationship” many years ago….
montag @ 113
UK
CTuttle @ 111
The House of Craig-McConnell?
Steve-AR @ 107
Damascus?
Uh…
Pavarotti’s pancreatic cancer was diagnosed last year (sadly, during his farewell tour).
Solid organ transplants (kidney, pancreas, heart, lung, liver) are not currently possible in patients with active cancer.
Solid organ transplant (save for transplants between identical twins) require suppression of the immune system to prevent transplant rejection.
The immune suppression depresses the body’s cancer-fighting systems.
With insulin, people can live without their pancreas. Patients with pancreatic cancer expire because of the metastatic cancer, not the lack of pancreatic function.
The immunosuppression required for solid organ transplantion would only hasten those deaths.
Ed*ard Teller @ 100
Hey, thanks, ET. Found the site. Will listen.
kirk murphy @ 117
see, i don’t know everything after all. thanks. I try to keep up, but there is too much information and too little time.
althespook @ 112
Yes but obviously it wasn’t a nuclear accident. That particular silo was at Damascus AR. A worker was doing routine service and dropped his socket wrench which fell and punctured the fuel tank. Those old warheads were built tough; there was no radiation leak.
althespook @ 94
Yes, Fox News regularly broadcasts things that are batshit insane, since they are a propaganda channel. I guess I don’t understand what you think will be accomplished by having a denial so thin it can only possibly appeal to absolute Bush loyalists. Bush and Cheney have extremely low credibility these days. They may be able to eat a live baby on Fox and get cheered by their dead-enders, but there are a lot of people who don’t think a lot about politics who now reflexively assume Bush is lying, rather than reflexively assuming that he’s telling the truth.
So is your point that the rogue operators could convince themselves that a denial that thin would work? Or are you suggesting that it could actually work? The first I might buy if the rest of the scary scenario were true (though it seems like a pretty minor wrinkle at that point.) The second I just don’t find plausible.
Steve-AR @ 120
oh THAT one. I thought it was one where the missile tried to launch in the silo during a launch drill and almost made it before blowing up; there have been rumors that that happened once but never any official admission that I know of.
and the list is one of “crashes involving nuclear weapons”, so I guess having the warhead tossed onto a cornfield would count as a crash if you squint…
althespook @ 88
Dude! IMHO, he’s bluffing. IMHO, however, it’s a pretty good bluff. All kinds of specific details are coming out from all kinds of sources. Sounds like the rubber is about to hit the road. And, I have not evidence to the contrary, but I’m very, very skeptical.
Nixon and Kissinger worked long and hard to convince the Soviets that Nixon was a “madman,” which is a significant advantage in strategic negotiations. Think about it. “This fucker’s so crazy he’d end the world. I better not piss him off.”
Nobody currently on the face of this planet has so much madman credibility as George W. Bush. That fucker could change lanes without signalling in any city in the nation. All he’d need is his picture on the side of the car.
But, madman credibility is a declining asset. Use it or lose it. So, his advisors are telling him that it is time to cash in. No better time than the present, and no better cause than stopping Iranian nuclear weapons.
Give ‘em hell, George.
Redshift @ 121
convince themselves long enough to try it. that’s the scary part to me. the whole thing is so batshit insane no vaguely rational person would even consider it. but we know by now these clowns are not even vaguely rational.
althespook @ 122
If it didn’t hit a cow and there was no damage claim, as far as the Air Force is concerned, there was no foul.
ET! just listened. WOW!
Like, this is a “garage band”? No, it is at the very least a small orchestra in the basement. (Disclaimer- I don’t have a garage or a basement. But, if the magic wand were to be waved, no question, I would choose to have a basement. Not contest.)
montag @ 125
I believe you, I truly do.
“Marge, call the air force again. My tractor just ran over another dayam warhead. Bessie’s fine, but i’ll bet the milk is soured.”
Valley Girl @ 126
impressive. ET, your reputation is not unearned.
@ 119..The key point with Pancreatic Ca is that the diagnosis is a death sentence. Less than 20% can be resected at the time of diagnosis and less than 5% live five years.
montag @ 125
…but, they tip so easily…!!! ;-)
Steve-AR @ 129
that was actually the point of my “other damage” comment. but KM is right, even with it going into remission, the immunosuppressin regime for a liver transplant is too harsh, he would never have made it.
Sorry, pups…the song I wanted to upload for VG kept on being rejected. The other piece of mine we played in southeast Alaska last week was a new version of this, with six instruments (flute, alto sax, 2 trumpets, trombone and cello) added to the electronics and bugle. I played bugle. Before each of the three performances, I read the name and background of the most recently killed American servicemen in this phase of the Iraq War. Sadly, there was a new name each night.
I hate this goddam fucking war!
Punaise…notice the Brisbane woman’s age was 62. she was probably at the Summer of Love concert earlier in GG Park sipping kool aid….not the kind the repubs sip tho.
CTuttle @ 130
you don’t know the heifer vit.
Ed*ard Teller @ 132
oh, that’s why i couldn’t find it. listened to the knik river one instead.
wigwam @ 123
Pretty bizarre time we’re in, when that’s an optimistic viewpoint. Tell me, how many times has Bush threatened military action as a negotiating point vs. times when he actually wanted to use it. I have seen little evidence that the threat of military action is ever a bluff with this crowd.
Furthermore, I don’t believe that their objective is to get rid of Iran’s nuclear program and “make us safer,” any more than it was in Iraq. These are people who pretty much trashed negotiations with North Korea because they wanted to build Ronnie Raygun’s missile shield and couldn’t get it without a rogue power that had missiles.
spiderpaws @ 133
sp in da house!
althespook @ 127
That said, the Atlas silos were hastily built, and they were deep enough, often, to have had a few feet of water at the bottom, either due to leakage or water table problems, even in the arid places they were generally located.
Made electrical diagnosis difficult. Especially of the electrically-fired explosive bolts that secured the missile in the silo….
punaise @ 134
aren’t puns after 1 am considered a war crime SOMEWHERE? please??
spiderpaws @ 133
heh – four days to walk home from GG Park in a purple haze…
I have worried that Bush would do in NOLA with a nuke and say it was terrist. Two birds with one stone.
Ed*ard Teller @ 132
ET, well, whatever I did listen to, it was great. And, alas and sadly, (because of where we are or not as a nation), I well remember your previous posts about those live performances.
hey spidey
althespook @ 124
Ah. Yeah, I’m with you there. I’ve learned not to underestimate their insanity.
althespook @ 139
it’s the fabled West Coast offense – PDT here, sorry!
punaise @ 134
Just a different take on the term, “cow flop.” :)
althespook @ 139
It ought to be outlawed, period…!!! *g*
montag @ 138
The russian ones have snow removal issues. that’s why they have gone largely for the truck and rail mounted systems shuttling around the country like a nuclear game of shells and peas.
Oh putin is in indonesia today, inking a 1 billion military export deal. welcome to the new cold war, fought over arms exports and petro resources. the more things change the more they stay the same.
I walked to the mission district in one once
althespook @ 139
Only under the Nuremberg cownventions….
dang, you guys are harsh – i love the puns
spiderpaws @ 149
but not from Brisbane
Suzanne @ 151
so do we, suz, but as we are REAL MEN (fart, spit, scratch crotch)we can’t admit it…
dang – tough crowd tonight!
punaise @ 154
but the veal is good.
punaise @ 154
I still love ya.
I was in Calistoga yesterday, and some people (most looked like a group of seniors) were outside the museum. I saw they carried a sign “Impeach Bush/Cheney”. They said they are actually part of the city council and hoped to become the 88th city in the US to vote for impeachment. Later, a couple of younger people showed up, but mostly the folks were older – in body not in spirit.
punaise @ 154
Ah, time to remember Robin Williams: “joke `em if they can’t take a fuck.”
Hey Punaise! I just had to post this for old times’ sake.
Johnny Cash-Ring of Fire 1963
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRlj5vjp3Ko
(apropos the title of TRex’s post- Love is a losing game)
wigwam @ 103
good stuff. note that Glenn is soliciting suggestions for the title of his new book:
who kow where I started…red sparks fell down on the cobblestones from the flame trees
mulligatawny @ 157
I was in Sonoma on Friday. There were twenty grey haired folks on the plaza holding end the war signs. They looked tired.
marymccurnin @ 141
wurmser supposedly suggest something very like that. he resigned the next day. i suspect scowcroft put his very large foot down. Bushco knows there are limits.
BTW, has anyone noticed that the reason Gonzo walked was that Bolten decided he was going to prevent passage of the NEW fisa law that will get the telcos out of hock on their lawsuit vulnerability? all the other stuff was apparently window dressing. In the end it is still all about the money.
oops, should be ‘knows’, enuf cool aid for me
marymccurnin @ 156
ah, shucks…
(singing) those were the days, spidey
punaise @ 154
Ahh, Pun, you rope’em and wrassle’em with the best of ‘em…!!! ;-)
Steve-AR @ 107
Is this it?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L….._accidents
I added new photo at the end of my SE-AK trip album, showing our performance of “Shards II” in Juneau last Saturday.
Hey Suz, what ever happened to the Cadillac?
Valley Girl @ 159
it burns, burns, burns…
but no, usually just drive thru Brisbane on the way to the airport…there’s no there there that I’ve ever noticed. But if you took too many pills, the legal ones Cheney is on, you might, just might go to Brisbane….and wander around the hills
too many pills
wander the hills
Redshift @ 136
Okay, I’m simply talking personal instinct here.
IMHO, Bush is simpatico with the right wing in Israel. And both are very fearful of Iran becoming a nuclear power. Iran has missles that could hit Israel from forward bases, and possibly even from U.S.-built megabases in Iraq, should those ever fall to the Shiites.
IMHO, Bush’s mid-east objectives are:
– denying Iran access to nuclear weapons
– hanging on to the megabases we’ve built in Iran
– avoiding the need to be the president who admits defeat in Iraq.
punaise @ 171
Only when Bush has been eatin’ jalepenos, y’know. That’s the only ring o’ far he’s concerned with. Anal retentive twit.
Ed*ard Teller @ 169
Hi ET,
Where can I find the rag you posted a link to recently. I thought I bookmarked it but, apparently, I didn’t. I’d love to listen again, I love rags.
Valley Girl @ 170
the metalic purple one with rabbit fur upholstery and in dash incense holder? it had problems and ended up being replaced with a 58 cadi ambulance painted black that we called the herse
Valley Girl @ 159
Dang, I saw Johnny at the Frankfurt Rheinhaldt at a country fest with Reba, too!!! That was a young Johnny!!!
wigwam @ 173
Bush and Cheney, as Michael Moore said in “Fahrenheit 9/11,” aren’t just sympathetic to the oil barons–they are the oil industry in this country.
It’s never been about “democracy” or “freedom.” It’s about ensuring control of all the oil in the region at the cheapest possible extraction cost. Period.
If Iran still has decent reserves, they’re in the gunsights.
persiflage @ 175
Pioneer Days Rag.
The Clash – Brand New Cadillac
punaise @ 171
I thought you would remember that. It was in the early days of my YouTube obsession.
And, of course, I had to go find something then, and now, for your “heading down the hallway”. You remember that?
Well, okay it was “heading down the road”, but same.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rd9WBhum_oc
Handy oil reserve map.
World oil reserves
Ed*ard Teller @ 179
Thanks ET, listening now, it’s great. You’re wonderfully talented.
punaise @ 180
*ring* Allo? London’s calling…!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOCH-X8D2Uk
Fern @ 182
Well, y’know, Cheney had just about destroyed Halliburton by the time he left to be VP, and Bush, the putative head of Ar-BUST-o, may have drilled more dry holes in Texas than anyone in history. So, you just know that the two of `em would take the easy way out and use the military to find oil where it had already been discovered….
Instructive map of US military bases worldwide.
Don’t know how current it is.
US military bases
persiflage @ 183
Bows in the direction of persiflage…
Valley Girl @ 181
good alternate. originally it was a riff on Neil Young:
think I’ll pack it in
and buy a pick-up
head on down the hallway
(which is what I’m about to do…)
Fern @ 186
Doesn’t really matter, does it? We know that the so-called “arc of instability” overlays U.S. military bases overseas to cover both oil fields and routes of oil shipment.
Camp Bondsteel (built by Halliburton/KBR) neatly straddles the route of a pipeline proposed by Halliburton four years before Camp Bondsteel’s construction.
(The things one learns from Chalmers Johnson….)
Ed*ard Teller @ 187
we need a google earth with all the fdl’ers marked on it. I for example have zero clue as to where persiflage hangs out…
althespook @ 190
Ah, no we don’t. You may have a minder, but, so far, I don’t. :)
I’d kind of like to keep it that way.
montag @ 191
Number Six! We always did wonder where you’d gotten off to…:)
montag @ 189
Don’t get me started at this hour! Army Sergeant Major James Bondsteel was a close friend and inspiration. He wanted to be remembered as a social worker. We were trying to recruit him into an active role in progressive politics when he died.
Punaise- Nite then. I missed that wonderful pun of yours. Hallway = LA. You just continue to punamaze me.
althespook @ 192
Ah, but remember the last episode… it’s all theater of the absurd, after all. :)
montag @ 195
They actually tried to do an american remake of the prisoner last year, had to give up. it is quintessentially british.
montag @ 189
Well it was instructive to mentally lay the map of oil resources over the map of military bases. Is everything about oil?
Fern @ 197
at the moment. it may presently be about food, access to arable land, sunlight, or uncontaminated water. but in the end, it’s always about Teh Money.
montag @ 191
But, there is a FDL map…!!!
http://www.frappr.com/?a=const…..8720111273
althespook @ 198
Yup on water and arable land for sure.
althespook @ 196
Ed*ard Teller @ 187
Standing on chair, applauding, throws flowers to ET on stage, oops, gee, guess I shoulda cut the thorns off the roses.
CTuttle @ 199
shamed that i am to admit it, i can’t make that sucker work…
Trex @16
I saw an interview with Aretha Franklin (iirc) and she said she didn’t like the sound of her voice if she weighed less than 160. Anything over that was fine. So I guess there’s something to your theory.
Amy did sound good in that clip, and I hope she gets herself together. Soon. Not how many extra chances she’s gonna get, and I don’t mean her career.
TheOtherWA @ 204
She looked like someone with no reserves left.
althespook @ 190
I’ll give you a clue:
Crikey! George has come visiting us to see his bonzer mate and cobber, as well as a few other quite famous people.
Persi
(in the very deep, deep South)
persiflage @ 202
ouch! thanks, anyway.
persiflage @ 206
i’m guessing southern australia. Close?
Fern @ 197
Not exactly. As I said, it’s about control of oil. It’s about getting oil at the cheapest extraction price and pointing it in the directions the U.S. desires.
We can have all the oil we need right now, without any of the political and military histrionics. But, not at the cheapest cost of extraction.
Funny thing, though. Had we spent just ten percent of this war’s spending so far on alternatives/renewables/new energy sources, we’d be livin’ large in ten years, energy-wise, and regaining our export status.
The guys at Exxon-Mobil, Conoco-Phillips, Chevron-Texaco, etc., are smiling and congratulating themselves on having the most technologically-advanced army in the world at their disposal… and they don’t even have to pay their share of the taxes to support that military. What a deal!
althespook @ 203
Hmmm… Suz, do ya remember…?!!!
althespook @ 208
Ding! Give da spook a kewpie doll! South Western Australia to be precise, in Perth, reputed to be the most isolated capital city in the world.
nope, CT – don’t remember – sorry :(
persiflage @ 211
In terms of relationship to reality, I think Washington DC has that distinction at the moment…
Ed*ard Teller @ 207
I’m sure the paramedics will get you fixed up in no time. And a scar gives a man a sense of mystery.
montag at #209 – ding!
Suzanne @ 212
I’m trying to remember who initiated it…!!!
montag @ 209
Okay, that makes sense – in a perverse sort of way.
Fern, exactly. Winehouse is looking fragile. She’s has a rough couple of weeks. Ok, it’s probably gone on longer than that, but I’ve been reading more about her recently.
wigwam @ 173
Yeah, I’ll grant that that’s plausible. And they may actually be scaling back their ambitions a little this close to ‘08.
(Strangely, I haven’t found this evening’s topics depressing. The intellectual back-and-forth is too stimulating, I guess.)
G’night, all.
althespook @ 213
Yellowknife might give it a run for its money on isolation.
Oh, on second thought – are you talking about a national capital? not territorial/provincial – which case I take that back.
Ed*ard Teller @ 215
Not to mention that thanks to their efforts, Bushco. corrupts science, to tell us that global warming is a myth.
>>In terms of relationship to reality, I think Washington DC has that distinction at the moment…
Too true. It’s not so bad that they’re in a bubble, my problem’s that it’s not completely sealed so some of them are able to escape and risk infecting *real* people
Fern @ 220
…or Hay River, NWT!!!
Fern @ 220
I wish they’d move the capitol of Alaska to Attu. And make the lobbyists swim there.
Fern @ 217
but its also about raw materials of all kinds. even with shipping a lot of manufacturing to other countries, the resources must still be available at the lowest possible cost.
Chrome for steel. Yellow bananas. Copper. Molybdenum. Hundreds of others. US foreign policy is shaped in many ways by the need and demand to keep raw materials from the third world available at minimal cost.
And that has to change.
persiflage @ 222
Good’un, Persi!!! ;-)
althespook @ 225
America does to the world what WalMart does to its suppliers.
persiflage @ 206
and we hope their chooks turn into emu
s and kick their dunny down.
Fern @ 227
Not much longer. china is vowing to crack down on the quality control issue, and when that happens wally world is gonna hit the wall. several major portfolio managers are already moving out of walmart stock for just this reason.
Okay – I’m going to try to sleep again. I had some cake thingy at lunch that attempted to set a world density record for chocolate. I am still twitching.
Ahs well, the better half wants to score some interisland tix for $9 one-way on Hawaiian Air, I shall bid ya’ll a fond adieu! Aloha Oe!!!
Fern @ 230
plutonium dark, the chocolate lover’s dream date. been there, done that, was up all night. but so worth it.
CTuttle @ 226
Dat weren’t me, that was althespook. I don’t know why but, often I quote a comment then type a response and post and it shows up with the quoted comment but not my incredibly witty response. I can handle rejection but it’s a bit much when a computer thinks my writing is so bad that it refuses to accept it.
althespook @ 232
Yeah, well I have to disguise myself as a professional tomorrow. I may be expected to think as well. Sigh.
Honey I’m home… so what is up tonight?
See you later Tuttlegator!
persiflage @ 233
that is a bug in the current version of the blog software here. the trick is, the edit dialog doesn’t always go to the end of the blockquotes. if so, and you inadvertently remove one in typing, your own text can get eaten.
The cure is to scroll down ALL the way to the bottom and search for the last blockquote.
oh, and if you embed a link or some html (bold ital etc) it bounces you to a random part of the text stream.
time for me to head off and do more friggin housework (grumble grumble) and then off to bed
g’nite all
althespook @ 225
All true, but cheap energy is the key. I’m going by what I think are the most recent figures (2005, I would guess), but world GDP is around $44.5 trillion. US share of that is $11.5 trillion. About 25%. US has 6% of the world’s population, but uses about 25% of the world’s energy supply annually. Accidental that those percentages correlate? I think not.
Cheap energy is the underlying driver of all economics in this country. When we spend more and more on the military–and wars–to chase down decreasing amounts of oil, we’re on a fool’s game.
The average budget for the NREL (National Renewable Energy Laboratory) in Golden, Co., has been about $200 million annually. The proposed supplemental soon to be debated in Congress alone is $50 billion.
What does that mean? That corporate influence on Congress has wholly subsumed common sense. What we are doing now with government money is to ensure that, in the future, the major energy companies in the country maintain centralized control of energy distribution–even if it means fighting wars of acquisition to do so.
wow, those short naps are great. keyboard tracks on one’s face are less fun, however. Time for sleepies.
see everyone manana. keep an eye out for stories on the warheads, i am very curious as to whether this is gonna go anywhere publicly.
(poof)
may @ 228
Either that or we can train a crack squad of Radical Redbacks to hide in the dunny, waiting for a Bushbottom to appear, for the sinking of fangs.
althespook @ 237
Thanks for the explicky Al. It very annoying when you’ve spent some time putting a reply together and *poof* itdisappears.
G’night Suzanne, sweet dreams, sweet lady.
I really like her. She is a special talent and, yes, god, I hope she survives whatever the hell she has going on now including that worthless husband and “friends” like Pete Doherty.
Quoted below is what Larry Craig got caught secretly saying BEFORE he announced his intent to resign at the end of the month. It makes clear that he has no such intent at all, and that he is a pathological liar. Not surprising from a man who gets caught touching and playing footsie with a stranger in the next stall trying to solicit sex, and then tries to explain it away by saying he was just picking toilet paper up off a public bathroom floor and sitting with a “wide stance” to keep his pants from falling down. And we know the prior allegations about the Craig. It’s a joke what a liar he is, just like the other Fox Republican officials and politicians.
http://rawstory.com//news/2007….._0905.html
Ohio Congressman Found Dead in Apartment.
JD21 @ 245
Ah, well, Craig is a hypocritical right-wing fuckwad.
I hope coverage of his travails pisses all over Bush’s propaganda march toward war with Iran. I hope we get Larry Craig 24/7 on the cable news channels for so long that Cheney just throws up his flabby, pasty arms and says, “to hell with trying to start a war!”
Larry Craig may yet serve a higher purpose. :)
good morning Troops. 62 and party cloudy in a parched and somewhat less trendy (looking at the recent real estate and housing start numbers) Blue Ridge GA.
MR. Bill @ 248
Mornin Mr Bill. Maybe the storm churning in the Atlantic will help us out but I hope it doesn’t rain on the Dawgs!
dang raven. I would take rain over football at this point..
Of course, I chose my alma mater, Emory, because they had no football program…
MR. Bill @ 250
I hear ya, I’ll go either way. In 1975 I was driving from Urbana to Key West and I was in a wreck in the ATL and ended up in Grady for 2 months. The orthopods were from Emory and they put rods on my spine. I’ve always had a soft spot for Emory since then. I did get to see the Dali Lama there a few years back.
Good morning, pups. In the NYT today TOMC says it’s important that we elect someone who’s in touch with reality. Can’t really argue with that… Roger Cohen says nothing can undo our blunders in Iraq and that while hubris is bad, careless hubris is worse.
http://mgpaquin.wordpress.com/
Coffee and tea are ready, and I was in the mood for corn muffins today. Have a grand day.
Looks like a quorum in Georgia!
Is it that we all have to start work earlier than the rest of the world?! I start work at the hour my alarm clock used to go off in NYC…
Morning all. Did any of my GA friends here the explanation on why Fred wasn’t at the debate? The local ABC Atlanta news seemed to indicate that he couldn’t make the debate because that’s when he planned to announce his candidacy. The local anchors also kept repeating that he is the front runner here in GA.
raven @ 251
Wow, I too, got to see the Dali Lama. If only our ‘religious leaders’ were as good as he.
“My religion is kindness…”
Ok gotta go work on absurd ‘cabins’ (actually lodges)..Y’all take it easy.
No idea why Fred Thompson would be leading in GA except that he’s on TV constantly on “Law and Order”.
MR. Bill @ 257
…and he’s tough on the Clintons
IMHO, the Republican “Fear for the Year 2008″ is Hillary.
Good Morning everyone.
About the debate, ThinkProgress is saying that the audience booed when Brownback said he supported a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage. Anyone notice that?
Good morning!
Well, since most here this morning are from Georgia, I guess I’ll chime in. Mornin’ all, from May-retta!
MR. Bill @ 256
He also said “I feel as if I am preaching to the choir”!
Morning wisdom from Christy Hardin Smith:
The Least He Could Do
Bring a hankie for the PS.
1,590 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND..
Firepup Patriots:
It’s good ta see that there actually is sentient life in Georgia, even if you folks are on the endangered species list. I have always felt that there is only one place in the United States that rivaled Texas for bein’ unhealthy for children and other livin’ things…and that would be Georgia. Spent too much time in both places in the late ’60’s…good God, there are places in Georgia that haven’t changed in 200 years!!
KEEP THE FAITH, THE SOUTH IS REALLY PART OF YER COUNTRY!!
Morning gang — fresh thread up and ready for the reading.
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newdealfarmgrrrlll @ 39
Trex, this woman’s voice knocks me out. The incredible Brazilian Virginia Rodrigues
Thanks for the turn on. It is especially nice to see someone listening to music by performers outside the white, English speaking worlds at this site.
dez
zed – can you imagine Amy Winehouse caring about zed. Totally, completely different universes… all on the same big blog.