The surge is working. And Larry Craig is NOT GAY.
Emphatic repetition obviously makes it true.
Meanwhile, this headline appears in the NY Times:
Democrats Newly Willing to Compromise on Iraq
Just shoot me.
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duhhhh bate.
zed-not dang you punnaise!
doh!
teh zed?
greenwarrior @ 4
teh 4
Single digit?
WFT???!!!
Hi Jane!
punaise @ 1
That’s it…!!!
No, punaise, it’s dumb bait.
Jane!
punaise @ 1
I stole that. New headline.
You snooze, you lose.
Jane Hamsher @ 11
that was quick!
yellowdogD @ 6
too true! {{{{{hi ydd}}}}}
My GF says that a lot; makes me nervous.
The Pubs want Paul.
defibrillator’s and ham
Steve-AR @ 15
does she hand you a weapon? is it loaded? is the safety off? THEN I would worry…
WTF? Carl Levin? It makes no sense.
Hume just put Paul back on the soapbox. duuhhhhmmbbb.
No Jane, we don’t want to shoot you after all the Poodle Pack needs their Fearless Leader. Much more fun to shoot holes in the comments of Repubs and gutless Dems.
RonD @ 20
Why? I am not watching, please elaborate.
Tancredo: We cannot back off from Iran questioning the size of our committment.
Jane, Ma Cheri, haven’t we already slain these strawmen: “…The surge is working. And Larry Craig is NOT GAY.
Emphatic repetition obviously makes it true.”
I coulda sworn a few specific threads clarified these issues…!!! *g*
AZ Matt @ 21
what he said.
So what channel is carrying this comedy show? I checked Comedy Central, and they weren’t there.
hunters eyebrow is reallly, really scary
RonD @ 20
That might be to let him really stretch his wings… when he starts the quasi-racist rant, he nullifies his few sensible positions.
Eureka Springs @ 17
Would you, could on the lam?
Could you, would you don the glam?
On a train?
In the rain?
Knowning that it was all a sham?
Why, oh why do you not like them
Eureka Springs, you Sam I am?
LS @ 16
Shocking, eh?!!! 8-)
Ed*ard Teller @ 27
fucks news
Eureka Springs @ 22
He gave Paul another excuse to lecture the group on proper Constitutional roles and responsibilities.
Ed*ard Teller @ 27
FAB News. (Fair And Balanced, doncha know?) Hey, ET! Hear about Teh Loose Nooks?
EPU’d
So far I’ve picked up these, please add the ones I missed or you come up with.
So. What does NPR stand for these days?
National Platform for Republicans
Never Piss off a Republican
Never Plebeian, Really!
New Privatized Reporting
Neo-con Piggies’ Radio
Nice Polite Republicans
No Ph*cking Reporting
NO POINT REPORTING
No Public Responsibility
Not Preying in Restooms
Now, Particularly Recherche
Now Pointless and Redundant
NPR: “We used to matter”
I was enjoying the evening until that NYT headline.
Ed*ard Teller @ 27
Heh! ET!!! Faux Spew, the noxious channel!!!
WOW!!! jane is still on the case ;o}….but dems sending mixed message…. are dems now supporting the surge?? what!!
Elliott, Neo Prone Republics
ET — how goes it?
Refresh my recollection. Did Bob Penny sell the land to Lisa Murkowski?
is brownback wearing a piece?
I don’t get FAUX News. I’d probably have to get blood pressure meds if I did. Or, they’d have to shoot me. So, live blog away, pups.
I salute all who are watching the Rethugilan duh bate! More guts than I, however, I am not sure about your sense.
I wish someone would ask Ghooliani about his wife’s Louie.
Loose nukes sink shiites.
National Public Relations
sangemon @ 41
Cod, or hair?
I wanna be a hippie again. When’s the next march on D.C.? I called my local charter bus service today and can’t reserve one on a weekend until December.
GordonM @ 46
Sppeeeewwww!
Ed*ard Teller @ 40
First jane, then the GF, now ET. Enough with the “shoot me” meme. Or I’m going to tell Suzanne to bring her ruler to late nite.
Gordon–
“Nae, lassie, but it be in me blood.”
This one’s for you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzuoX1nd7SE
So far I’ve picked up these, please add the ones I missed or you come up with.
So. What does NPR stand for these days?
National Platform for Republicans
Never Piss off a Republican
Never Plebeian, Really!
New Privatized Reporting
Neo-con Piggies’ Radio
Neo Prone Republics
Nice Polite Republicans
No Ph*cking Reporting
NO POINT REPORTING
No Public Responsibility
Not Preying in Restooms
Now, Particularly Recherche
Now Pointless and Redundant
NPR: “We used to matter”
Sid58 @ 42
Dayammmm…!!!
AZ Matt @ 43
It would be fun to watch him go nutty when a question is asked about his family. They’re off limits, don’t cha know!
GordonM @ 45
Or firearm?
Guiliani: “Reagan pointed, liike, a thousand missles at Soviet cities to make ‘em negotiate!”
Eureka Springs @ 38
sorry to miss one of the more sublime
CTuttle @ 30
Not for me, but for the mainstream candidates, yeah.
sangemon @ 41
are you refering to a codpiece or a handgun? if the latter, it is probably in case Ron Paul tries to bite him. Or Tancredo. I suspect both of being more than slightly rabid.
AZ Matt @ 43
Sh*t, Louie has his own seat…!!!
GordonM @ 45
Either way, ick. What is it with hair hats? They always look awful, especially under the TV lights.
Elliott @ 49
National Public Relations
How am I supposed to pressure Gordon Fucking Smith when our Democrats just sign on to this continued bullshit?
madmommy @ 60
Remember those old Hair Club For Men commercials? It looks like he’s got one of those.
Romney, wide-eyed, “When they see the military option in our hand, they’ll know we mean business!”
CTuttle @ 58
Well when you have A*P*C supporter Ileana Ros-Lehtinen of Florida condemning the GAO for their report on Iraq, by suggesting that they have no expertise, you know you are in trouple
http://thinkprogress.org/
http://www.thejewishadvocate.c…..nt_id=1250
sangemon @ 62
William Shatner On Line Two, sounds Pissed…
Hi back greenwarrior!
Giuliani is such an idiot. He’s scary as hell.
OMG..McCain’s scarier!
thank gawd it’s over
Repugs can’t sell their tried and true rhetoric. Smaller government and cutting spending. It was always a lie, but now no one will believe them. The fat cat R’s want to keep their tax cuts, but they don’t know how anyone is going to fix the deficit without raising taxes (on them!).
R voters aren’t real happy about the New World Order, either. That is – the outsourcing of jobs. Its affecting their own kin, now.
They don’t know whether to sh*t or go blind.
Hiya, Mitch, CT, Alfred,
Been on the road for five of the past seven weeks, just settling back in. Working as a volunteer for Diane Benson about 20 or more hours per week now. She’ll be making an important announcement to the press Monday, which will keeep me busy over the weekend. So good to hear about Darcy Burner’s primary victory today, though it wasn’t a surprise.
It’s over.
RonD @ 54
Like no previous president had done the same thing for the twenty-five years prior to Reagan.
Rudy’s yet another expert on Republican revisionist history.
Geez, I’ll bet you can get a degree today in that area of expertise.
sangemon @ 62
Shudder. I will stick with the tennis, thanks. I have listened to enough crazy people today-I’m over my quota.
that louie bag is back on the lake again? the hell with that ugly-ass sack lol
St McCain is sooo lame!!! Zombie springs to mind…!!! Yee-Haw the toxic swamp has drained…!!! 8-)
ack! hannity, gotta get it off!!
Mr. Levin and other Democrats said this week that they were reaching out to Republicans who had expressed reservations about Mr. Bush’s policy…
They just want to help the Pukes by taking some ownership of the war. This is such a difficult issue for the Pukes, and they were so gentlemanly to us during the build-up to the invasion. Also, the Pukes were really collegial and bipartisan when Clinton was president.
I can’t wait till the next Democrat fundraising call– I want to give them a lot of money so they know what an effective opposition party they are.
solai @ 70
We wish.
Elliott @ 34
Now Preying in Restrooms
OT:
For those watching the duh bate and throwing popcorn at the tv, you may want to sell your popcorn futures. A new version will be on the market shortly due to the removal of a chemical linked to a lung ailment.
LINK
Having that end was like having a tooth pulled.
Folks, we are SO screwed if, the Powers forbid, one of these chancellor-wanna-be’s somehow gets in.
sangemon @ 62
Is he the before, or after, photograph?
greenwarrior @ 51
But he’s wearing a guitar, not a kilt!
Bush is insane..
Bush, for his part, was not disposed to second-guessing. Througout 2006, he read historical texts relating to Lincoln, Churchill, and Truman – three wartime leaders, the latter two of whom left office to something less than public acclaim. History would acquit him, too. Bush was confident of that, and of something else as well. Though it was not the sort of thing one could say publicly anymore, the president still believed that Saddam had possessed weapons of mass destruction. He repeated this conviction to Andy Card all the way up until Card’s departure in April 2006, almost exactly three years after the Coalition had begun its fruitless search for WMDs. [p. 388]
http://www.crooksandliars.com/…..ough-2006/
And somebody is playing with Nukes.
GordonM @ 82
picky picky
Kill them all if they oppose the U.S.
That is what they stand for.
BTW. Mr. LS just took the “Quiz”. He got Kucinich, Gravel, Clinton, Dodd…
Hunter – 31.
RonD @ 80
Actually I think one way to see a silver lining in Jane’s post is that it doesn’t fucking matter which party wins.
They’re going to claim the surge is working and that they can begin to bring down the troop levels, slowly, all the way until 10/08 and they can claim that they ended it with the surge. This is the long term plan. They’re planning to take credit for ending the war and hoping that will get them back in power in 08
Here’s the article from Harpers, A Fate Worse than Bush. A scathing, fascinating take oh Guiliani.
Elliott @ 60
National Public Relations
Now Preying in Restrooms
foulis @ 79
Which they’ve known about for about six years.
Steve-AR @ 83
I always wondered if that was the root of his fascination with Truman. Otherwise, people of Bush’s hereditary line thought Truman a country bumpkin and a socia*ist.
sangemon @ 87
except for those lovely airbases just waiting to hold about 100,000 troops forever. Hmmm, we’ll just have to declare those rotations “top sekret” and not allow the msm to talk about them, that’s the ticket…
greenwarrior @ 78
got it
http://www.jta.org/cgi-bin/iow…..04002.html
Iran has just built a new Jewish Center to point out that they have the largest Jewish population next to Israel in the middle east.
Which kind of blows a whole in the save Israel from Jew hating Muslims argument. How about we defuse the situtation by making a fair peace with Palestine. Lets give peace a chance first before we attack for once.
After all is Iran really a more represive regime than Saudi Arabia or is Iran just more anti American?
Maybe Iran has its reasons for being AntiAmerican after all the CIA should not have overthrown Iran’s Democraticly elected government and replaced it with the Shah, whoose government was so bad the Iranians are still angry at us.
Spin, spin, spin. I saw Paul prevail with my own eyes.
http://www.dehp.net/candidate/
Take the quiz.
re NPR – in a speech I gave at a few colleges and galleries in 1993, called “Artists as Environmentalists,” I called them National Propaganda Radio. They haven’t gotten better since.
The Fox post-debate spin — pollster asks the assembled group what they thought:
Almost all were disappointed with the candidates;
Majority thought McCain did the best
Guiliani bombed — they’ve heard enough of NY
Nobody mentioned Fred
RonD @ 63
He had his military option in his hand even as he spoke
Just voted for Paul. Even though he’d be a nightmare, too. At least he wouldn’t start unneccessary wars. Oh, f**k, just got a reply from FoxNews thanking me and reminding me to watch H&C. Now, I’m sorry that I voted.
things come undone @ 93
BTW, two moderates just took power in the iranian policymaking board that holds Ahmie The Idiot’s pink slip. Another sign the mullah’s are getting tired of his idiot ass…
GordonM @ 82
Gordon, I think Gordon sung a ballad of the Gooper’s chances…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_8s2zsNhSM
Oy!
CNN: Benoit’s Brian vs Normal Brain
mack @ 98
Henceforth, Mitt “Short Sword” Romney….
Ed*ard Teller @ 97
Actually they have gotten ALOT worse. Used to be in 1993 that they would tackle tough issues like the treatment of Palestinians. Now, it is either airy cultural pieces, or right wing pro-war propaganda.
OT…
GUANTANAMO BAY U.S. NAVAL BASE, Cuba (Reuters) – The U.S. military is building a mobile courtroom complex on an unused runway at the Guantanamo Bay naval base and plans to be ready by March to conduct as many as three terrorism trials at a time.
link
Making ready for Republicans after 01/20/09..A person can hope.
GordonM @ 82
So that makes two of you now not wearing kilts.
I thought it’d make you feel at home, him being Scottish and all.
mack @ 99
Walk softly and carry a big *ick.
montag @ 103
Isn’t that a problem with his magic underwear?
sangemon @ 102
They mention W??
Riesz Fischer @ 86
Come on. God knows there’s a lot of bipartisan cash, and limp-spined Dems…no argument. But don’t tell me it doesn’t make a difference, not after 2000. If, in 2000, the D candidate had been inaugerated, I submit there would be a hell of a difference in where we are now.
Examples of this thesis abound. Roberts. Alito. FEMA.
It makes a difference.
Elliott @ 60
Elliot, I really like
and
If someone didn’t already say it, how about
New Pravda Review?
Seize the Day!
or days….
hate2haggle @ 46
Hope this helps:
Sept. 11: March of the People Arrives in DC just in time for the White House’s expected sales pitch for extending the occupation. http://www.marchofthepeople.org
Sept. 12: “Tell the Truth” Events outside local media outlets.
http://www.democrats.com/node/14134
* Sept. 14-21: Declaration of Peace/Days of Decision –
http://www.declarationofpeace.org
Sept. 15: National March on Washington, D.C. — http://www.sept15.org
Sept. 16: Lobby Training in Washington, D.C.
A full day of opportunities for networking and advocacy training.
http://www.grassrootsamerica4u…..ation.html
* Sept. 17: National Truth in Recruiting Day
Iraq Veterans Against the War is launching a Truth in Recruiting campaign on Sept. 17. IVAW chapters around the country will be holding local events, but you don’t need an IVAW chapter in your area to participate. http://www.ivaw.org
Sept. 18: Congressional Challenge Day in Washington, D.C. -
Visit your congressmember and senators with Grassroots America.
http://www.grassrootsamerica4us.org
* Sept. 20: Speak Truth to Power – A Day of Non-Violent Resistance in DC –
http://www.iraqpledge.org/
* Friday, Sept. 21: Iraq Moratorium — http://www.iraqmoratorium.org and
http://www.moratorioirak.org
Sept. 22-29: Encampment in Front of Congress to Stop the War –
http://www.troopsoutnow.org/
Sept. 29: National March on Washington — http://www.troopsoutnow.org/
Save the Date: Oct. 27!
10 Massive Demonstrations to End the War — http://www.oct27.org
Click here to find more peace & justice events in your area:
http://www.unitedforpeace.org/calendar.php
G’nite pups..got an early flight tomorrow
solai @ 99
Oh, yeah, a batshit crazy Libertarian with a huge military at his disposal. Oh, yeah, I’m all for that….
He’s not in favor of this war, maybe, but, give him the chance to start one of his own?
we need our own news network!! msm is NOT telling our side at all! no wonder faux news has influence… there’s no network to counter their repug spin
LS @ 94
I thought he did good too! Either this debate gives him a huge boost in the polls, or GOP 30%er voters are way stranger than even I thought.
I remember one morning on the “Diane Gets Reamed” show, a caller was scolding her for having Bill Kristol on, because he’s a hack and she said (very slowly) “He’s – a – legitimate – journalist.”
So, how were Fred’s commercials?
swag @ 61
I feel for you. I’m in Baird’s district, which tends to be considered a conservative one. I think that if the Dems. that are representing you are not responding satisfactorily to their constituents, what needs to happen is to run a progressive candidate against the Dem. incumbant in the primary. I’d love to find someone to run here that I could really support, rather than just having to vote for an inadequate Dem. in order to keep a Republican from getting the seat.
This is what the local Republican website had on their home page last week–it was designated as their top pick for best letter to the editor, entitled “Baird wisely comes around to making the right Iraq choice.”
Steve-AR @ 105
greenwarrior @ 108
Hey, my family has its own tartan pattern registered…!!! ;-)
I guess we watched two different debates, because I never heard anyone say that Larry Craig wasn’t gay. However, all of them said he should resign and Duncan Hunter said he should resign immediately.
things come undone @ 114
B, I’m afraid. These are the folks who think W is doing a “great job”, and that “Saddam was the mastermind behind 9/11 and had nukular weapons” and “If we don’t fight them over there we’ll have to fight them over here.” Nuff said.
Steve-AR @ 107
Its mobile. It hops on its own kangaroo legs.
punaise @ 1
correction: Duhhh Bait
RonD @ 110
Yeah, I was just blowing off some steam. I wouldn’t do anything silly like vote for Nader.
But seriously, I hate the Rats. I just hate the Pukes a lot more.
Chris Jones @ 123
They basically steered clear of him…!!!
Richmond @ 106
I’m hoping to find time this evening to listen to Terry Gross’s interviews yesterday with Walt and Foxman on _The Israel Lobby_. I’ve read she was deferential to Foxman (who has survived his Armenian Holocaust denial incident) and crass with Walt, so I want to judge for myself.
NPR’s puff piece last week on the cool Doctor from Hawaii who went to Gaza to surf with Palestinians was irresponsible journalism at its best.
punaise @ 124
What interests me is that Hollywood Ferdie spurns Fox News. Murdoch is NOT pleased.
montag @ 114
Jeez, it’s not like I voted for him for pres.
Elliott @ 34
Never parse republicans.
LS @ 109
No. They were talking about brains.
Richmond @ 104
Loo Hoo. @ 130
I wanna know what we’re gonna do with all these when we get done. Reminds me of Luther’s 99 Theses or whatever…nail them to the NPR studio door in DC or whereever?
hate2haggle @ 46
9/15
bmaz @ 133
…and clearly displayed their apparent lack along the way…!!! *g*
althespook @ 131
Could it possibly be that Frederick of Hollywood’s friends and bosses at NBC made it clear that they would be less than pleased to see him appearing on Fox? “It’d be easy to edit you out of the rerun schedule . . . and if, God forbid, you lost, well, we might just have to replace you.”
Bill Clinton told Larry King tonight on CNN that Osama was responsible for 9-11. I just want to ask Bill if that is true, why isn’t Osama wanted in connection with 9-11 on the FBI most wanted web page.
So far I’ve picked up these, please add the ones I missed or you come up with.
So. What does NPR stand for these days?
National Platform for Republicans
National Public Relations
Never parse republicans.
Never Piss off a Republican
Never Plebeian, Really!
New Pravda Review
New Privatized Reporting
Neo-con Piggies’ Radio
Neo Prone Republics
Nice Polite Republicans
No Ph*cking Reporting
NO POINT REPORTING
No Public Responsibility
Not Preying in Restooms
Now, Particularly Recherche
Now Pointless and Redundant
NPR: “We used to matter”
hate2haggle @ 46
So glad you asked!
Lots of options above – or just do the cool refresh(ing) thing.
Ahhhh…
PS – thanks, mods! I owe you….
Elliott @ 138
solai @ 129
Ah, well, just trying to offset the propaganda regarding Paul. There were a lot of people who were quite ga-ga over him because he was against the war, and yet knew nothing of his overall political outlook.
things come undone @ 114
I know that on Washington Journal (CSPAN), tons of calls come in on the Repub line for Paul. It is sometimes explained away as a “campaign” tactic, but after watching this, I think the support is there with the people, however, the corporate mouthpieces will stifle it, if they can. The Pubs(if it is a fair election – not) will be surprised at where their base really is.
CTuttle @ 123
CTuttle @ 123
hey, now all y’all can feel at home! link to pic please.
GOP Duh Bate Highights at 10:00:00 pm. All the rest of the news at 10:00:20 pm!
althespook @ 100
Too bad we can’t get rid of Bush.
NotPissingRelevant
Megan McArdle is a libertarian, but she’s hot enough to get away with it.
Mitch,
Re the Alaska Dems and Diane Benson – you were right when you said “They’re gonna Fuck her!” back at the beginning of August. The evidence grows every day.
greenwarrior @ 106
I think this is more appropriate for a Republican debate night.
kirk murphy @ 114
Oh, I feel so small. me and my 9/15.
Obama is on TDS rerun tonight.
Good night, everybody. The best of all possible tomorrows to all of you.
(bows, exits screen right).
Meanwhile, back at Teh Loos Nookes…
ArmsControlWonk lays out just how unlikely the stated scenario is..
(Am sending RonD second bill for enlarging fallout shelter to hold my pets and family…)
Elliott @ 141
Riesz Fischer @ 147
Re: McArdle.
Ed*ard Teller @ 70
Has Howie endorsed her yet, ET?
CTuttle @ 121
Yeah, but you’d have to move to Pugwash to wear it.
took the survey – seems i’m in sync with kucinich…. is the survey weighted to come out this way??
BigMitch @ 135
Not sure what you mean. I know it was a long way ago, but do you remember any examples?
ya know- whats it gonna take to point out that the goopers only understand power?
So how about a show of power.1,000,000 or more folks on the mall in DC! waddya say. A good old power display.
How about pickets at every single college and university in this country. How about it. I realize that at 130 plus-not too may readers but what the hell.With NYT headlines the bastards got to be awahened!
althespook @ 155
You’re concerned? The damn plane flew over Louisiana. We can’t build basement fallout shelters, they turn into indoor swimming pools. Sigh…yet another thing to put my mind in overdrive as I try to sleep.
greenwarrior @ 145
Elliott @ 156
NotPissingRelevant
Ed*ard Teller @ 151
What’s this about?
Hmmmmmm, it looks like I will be making a call to my esteemed (me, I’m just steamed) Senator Levin.
Are you fuckin kiddin me. We have to avoid a filibuster.
DO YOUR FUCKIN JOBS. IF THEY WANT TO FILIBUSTER, MAKE THEM FILIBUSTER.
Make them go on record for all to see.
Anything short of this and you cannot call your actions a solution. You and all the other spineless ‘Bush Boyz’ are the problem.
juslin @ 158
More info on the quiz here.
montag @ 72
Until Ronnie thought of that, all our missiles were pointed straight up to protect us from the Moon Men, right?
(BTW, Bill Maher had a great opening segment on Friday — a promo for the Revisionist History Channel.)
LATE NITE
GordonM @ 158
Hmmm… the last place I wore one, at the international gathering of the clans games…!!! ;-)
Took “the quiz”. It tells me I agree with Kucinich and Gravel, with HRC third. She and I disagree on my most important point. Pity I think she’s the only one with a harrier’s chance in hell of getting through the general.
I won’t get to get married again in my lifetime.
Elliott @ 166
Now Preying in Restrooms
Loo Hoo. @ 158
My last phone conversation with Howie was one incredible experience. I don’t know how he keeps up with so many details on so many US House races.
He wants to make sure that Diane is more progressive than her primary challenger, Jake Metcalfe. Additionally, State Representative Ethan Berkowitz is supposed to announce his candidacy for Don Young’s seat very soon, according to a very credible source I worked with this afternoon. All three are fairly liberal, good people. Maybe Howie is weighing “electable.” I’m sure Mitch would agree that Benson is the most progressive of the three, but it is about 340 days until the Alaska Democratic Primary.
Metcalfe’s strategy so far has been to create fluff pieces at his blog, take no serious positions and have surrogates question Benson’s loyalty to the Democratic Party. Meanwhile, he’s runnig his campaign out of the Anchorage statewide office of IBEW, where he’s General Counsel and his campaign director is Communications Director. You can call the office and if you ask for Melinda Taylor, his campaign director, the operator asks if you want Melinda’s IBEW extension or her Jake campaign extension. Sheesh!
greenwarrior @ 144
First up on Google. Note the “Mac” vs “Mc” thing is all about how the immigration officer decided to spell it.
madmommy @ 160
These are THEATRE nukes people. THAT is the take home message here. they top out at 150 KT, which is TEN TIMES more powerful than the bomb that was dropped on Hiroshima. THEATRE nukes take out ENTIRE ARMIES at once.
This is very very bad. I suddenly see where this is going and it is not good.
Let me explain:
a) Boosh has talked of “destroying the entire iranian military in three days with minimal us casualties”. Leaked news stores suggest “massive cruise missile bombardments” etc.
b) this is bullshit. you cannot take out hardened tank berms and aircraft shelters with conventional weapons and you certainly cannot neutralize a ground soldier heavy army that way. plus the high number of sorties against heavy WORKING anti-air defenses would mean heavy losses of aircraft and pilots. And with the carriers bottled up right next to iran, the danger from anti-ship missiles is extreme.
c) bush wanted to use nukes to destroy the iranian military in 2004. plans were drawn up.
d) this is the scary part. let’s assume bush has decided the only way to get his goal (total destruction of iranian military) is with theatre nukes. let’s also assume he wants to get them over there without the main brass knowing it and leaking it to the press.
e) his and cheney’s moles arrange for shipments on hard points just like “ordinary weapons” from the storage depot to the staging airbase for attacks in that part of the world (ME that is). None is going to notice BECAUSE WE DON”T SHIP NUKES THAT WAY. then those in on the plan quickly get them off the hard points and into storage for the real mission.
f) somebody got sick or careless and the scheme has been discovered. BUT WE DON”T KNOW HOW MANY WARHEADS (and what actual yields) ARE ALREADY IN PLACE!!!
yes i’m shouting. jeebus h keerist. this fool want’s to carpet bomb iran with nukes ten times bigger than those used on hiroshima.
Holy fucking fuck.
“She’s my little loose nuke,
You don’t know what I got”
– John McCain
althespook @ 177
I repeat. This is the “I’m crazier than Tricky Dick” card. This is all about political advantage in this country (the one thing this guy is actually good at). Unless he has undermined 100 years of military discipline, he can’t really do it. Petraeus maybe an a**hole, but he’s not T Boone Pickens. This is keeping wayward Rethugs and all Dems scared. Keeping the upper hand. And exploiting it. And long as he fucking can.
Elliott @ 60
Nazi Propaganda RatFuckers…Okay?
althespook @ 177
Keep in mind that this fucktard of a Bush still thinks there are WMDs in EyeRack.
LS @ 16
The GOPers see the writing on the wall.
Ron Paul is their only winner.
LS @ 145
Uh….it’s way too easy to make fun of these clowns but on ‘our’ side the base is being bamboozled every bit as much. Clik on thru my post about ‘More of the same’ and you will see what I mean.
Votus @ 121
Well, thanks. My real Senator is Ron Wyden, and my Rep is Earl Blumenauer, and they usually represent me quite well, and they did so during the run-up to the war and they do so now, so I wouldn’t care to run anyone against them.
But by all means, against Baird. I’ll kick in some cash. And best to you and your district!
Riesz Fischer @ 143
Okay, this one is just stupid and non-political. I knew a girl in college who made a poster about something on NPR–plastered it everywhere on campus: Natural Pubic Radio
RonD @ 54
Inspiring, isn’t it?
billjpa @ 163
Well, that’s what it will take.
Look, it’s already clear that there will be 100k troops in Iraq when Chimpy is booed out of the White House in 2009. The Veto Sharpie and the moral blackmail will ensure it. But Democrats need to go into 2008 showing that they fought against Bush’s ‘leaving is losing’ grand strategy with every inch of their beings. And the elected ones in Congress, for the most part, don’t have the spine for that fight.
Haven’t read this whole thread, so forgive me if this has already been noted, but shouldn’t this be “Duh Bait” as in take the…?
Elliott @ 34
I especially like “Now, Particularly Recherche.”
hackworth @ 126
Bravo, Hackworth!
“Democrats Newly Willing to Compromise on Iraq”
this getting all surprised act in Lefty Blogistan is kind of old now, isnt it? The sellout of campaign rhetoric was pre-ordained, and geuss what? the same will happen in 08 and beyond, until Americans have more choices at the polls, and finally get a chance to vote against neo-con, war candidates.
pseudonymous in nyc
what if it’s not a matter of spine, bokay?
what if, as in the Matrix, when the little boy monk says “there is no spoon” the truth is, there is no fight?
they are on the same team, they have the same goals of American world hegemony through military force, the ‘fight’ stuff is just for show.
Like in the WWF, they look like they are fighting, but the ‘face’, the good guy, is going along with the same script as the ‘heel’, the bad guy.
Any doubts? look at the near unanimous votes in Congress in support of the Cheney cabals’s next war, against Iran.
Then watch them pass the $50 billion, which will get diverted towards the next war, then really, who gives a sh*t about their various timetable for partial withdrawal plans?
I guess the Dems rode in on Nov. 2006 with nary an idea of why.