Chris Shays seems to be following the GOP blueprint for messaging on Iraq — he’s all for ending the war when it’s election time, but votes for continuing it when it’s not. And rationalizing the two positions? Well that takes some serious contortions:
Shays, R-Conn., said he resents Democratic claims that he flip-flopped on his position from last year. The Democrats’ proposals to withdraw the military in April or fall 2008 are “partisan timelines,” Shays said.
“I support having a timeline to get out of Iraq,” Shays said during a news conference at the Norwalk Inn. “What I’m hearing as criticism is because I voted against Democratic motions — then I’m against timelines. Let’s be very clear. I am against partisan Democratic timelines.”
Oh-kay. I’m sure that makes sense in somebody’s world. No doubt we’ll be seeing a lot of those “non-partisan Republican timelines” any time now.
Meanwhile, Jim Himes continues apace — smashing Shays’ fundraising efforts in both total money raised and in number of donors. Chris Van Hollen was in CT helping Jim out just recently (and FWIW, it’s nice to be on the same side of a race with the DCCC.) Anyway, we’ve raised $2,163 for Jim on Blue America from 53 donors. We’d love to get that up to 100 — the fact that Himes had over 500 donors last quarter to Shays’ 107 sends a signal that his support is broad based.
Shays is a dinosaur who needs to go. As many have said, we need 41 House seats to end the Blue Dog stranglehold on the House. If you’ve got $5 to spare please stop by Blue America and drop it in the hat for Jim Himes, one of the best chances we’ve got to turn a pro-war seat into an anti-war one.
(video thanks to CTBob)
Update: Okay we’re moving the goal posts. I’m at the fabulous Crooks and Liars batcave and John Amato wants more donoros from Blue America than Shays had in the entire first quarter, so that means we need 108 donors. I think that’s a very good idea.



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le zed?
ZED?
He who hesitates is lost.
Congrats Old Coastie.
hmm
Shays has slipped his noodle.
More hugs to Jane from downstairs! And Jim Hines gets my five bucks. (Just don’t tell Mrs. Retirin’. She’s watchin’ the VISA bill like a hawk since I started hangin’ at the lake.)
thanks, Busted! lucky accident!
Nanny nanny boo boo, I don’t like Dem timelines ’cause I didn’t think of them first.
What a tool. WTF is the difference?
btw – “slipping one’s noodle” a phrase VeryOldMother uses to describe other old people who aren’t making any sense any more.
Grand Ol’ Shays is just trying to make sure that he doesn’t end up on a DoD milk carton or homicide incitement flyer or whatever on his next visit to ol’ Eyerak.
It’s the GOoPer self-selecting Darwinism chromosome at it’s finest.
What, for it before he was against it?
Go, Himes!
Shays is an arrogant little *****, an angry little shrew. He must go!
Remember his outburst posted at crooks and liars in July?
Rep. Christopher Shays Screams Obscenities At Police Officer.
rove was successful with one of his programs;
that program to create a great devide where republicans think anything associated with a democrat is evil, anything assoiciated with a liberal is evil
for these neo fascist sheep and marionettes, all the politician has to say is something along the lines;
“if a democrat said it I am against ti”
Everything is partisan, eh Chris?
How about:
I am tired of the ethics-free, bullying, party-before-country, me first, all for me, lying about everything, hypocritical, fuck the environment, goddamn-assholes-for-sale on the Republican side of the aisle, and I am sick of said losers wrecking my country.
So, you tell me, Mr. Shays, is that partisan, or merely an American who understands that your party has been nothing but bad for America, hmmm?
so the gao comes right out and calls the president and general patreas a liar flat out
doesn’t use the word “liar” but calls them liars never the less
think progress;
I’m in.
Suggestion: auction off “zeds.” I’m sure it would raise a lot of $$$ among the pups.
I’ve got to do the monthly budget, but then I am in. Had to stop and read Jane’s post below. I do hope she has started a groundswell. Between Michael Moore and Jane Hamsher, and us having their backs, the insurance companies are toast. Eventually.
Shays Longue – the unwheeled-y Iraq equivalent of Short Ride Joey’s gurney.
I’ve already given to Himes’s campaign and plan to give again.
Connecticut residents could feel proud to have him in congress.
Any Democratic timeline beginning or ending on a day ending with “y” is clearly partisan.
small quibble…
Shouldn’t the title read: “…presidential candidates’ views”
…i.e., plural, not singular?
I wouldn’t mention such a typo in comments, but in something that’s going to be distributed virally, it should be corrected.
punaise @ 18
totally OT, but, could you provide linkee to someone selling said longue?
I think Mrs. Mack would like it.
(albeit in different colour…)
tw3k, left one last link downstairs for you and your friend.
Good luck, nice of you to reach out for her.
mack @ 22
tell ‘em Chris sent ya:
link
Shorter Shays speeches these days: “I’m against…I’m for…maybe…maybe not…I am…I am not. Th-th-th-that’s all folks!”
test
Dropped in $25 for Himes. Have You Had Enough?
Am I the only one having trouble with loading the Blue America page? Is it down?
zennurse @ 23
Thanks, I have no idea how often she gets online, but thanks again for all the info.
Eureka Springs @ 28
worked for me
This is OT, Jane, sorry but you will understand.
I wanted to repost something I should have put here a long time ago. This is a national CDC funded program which provides free mammograms and pap smears for eligible women. It is available in various incarnations across the country and I urge anyone who knows a woman who needs it to call. I was part of this program early on (1992-97) and feel very guilty that I haven’t posted this before.
Thanks Jane. I’m going to look for more programs like this. They are not always helpful for the insured, but if you have no insurance, at least you can get screening.
Oh, you bloggers, yes Shays means you Jane, if you’d just leave poor Shays alone and not try to catch him “doing one thing wrong” wouldn’t the world just be a much better place? As his wife said in one of his campaign commercials against Diane Farrell last year, “Chris is rare.” I actually hope he’s toast.
Woo hoo! 65 donors for Himes.
We’re getting there…
I donated enough to buy a (for me) nice bottle of wine to celebrate my 18th wedding anniversary. Getting great candidates elected would be a great anniversary gift. Cheers and thanks for making this possible.
I’m in for $25.00 if someone will match me.
carmen @ 34
Aw thanks Carmen. I’ll make sure they know, I’m sure Maura will be showing up to look over the comments and she’ll pass that along to Jim.
Just gave $25.00 plus a tip for Act Blue. Money well spent!
On the way home from work, I heard on NPR that sugar is the new oil. Does Iran have sugar?
ccmask @ 35
I just dropped in $20…close enough?
ccmask @ 38
Could you explain that? Was there a failed sugar crop somewhere, or is it in more demand, and why?
punaise @ 39
That will work for me. Thanks.
Thanks Elliott. I’m in now..)
Screw the budget.
Just chipped in another $25 (10% tip) for Jim Hines.
Gnome de Plume @ 40
Caught the tail end of it. Something about ethynol and big sugar lobbyists.
ccmask @ 41
cool – I’ll spot you five bucks next time around…
Gnome de Plume @ 40
It used to be the cash crop here in Hawaii, now it’s pretty much defunct… Foreign sugar producers are the primary cause in its demise!
Here is a link from an auto website.
snip
So a lot of attention is being paid to hydrogen fuel cells as an alternative to gasoline. But Dr. Stanley Kravitz of Sandia National Laboratories sees another route, which uses similar technology: fuel cells that harness energy produced by glucose, a basic form of sugar. Glucose is cheap and abundant, and unlike hydrogen, it doesn’t require larger compounds to be broken down in order to access it.
PS: I was kidding about Iran having sugar :)
CTuttle @ 46
Water is the new oil.
me3 thinks teh repukellicans might be quakin’ in their boots
raw story;
tee hee heee
blue america takes forever on dialup, just so ya know………off i gooooo.
ok, jane, i’m broke right now, yes, paying medical bills, like everybody else it sounds like from the last thread, but just to give you a well-deserved THRILL, i will donate………a small amount, but one more donor just the same………..here’s to hitting the 108 donors you wanted…….cheers…….
and i don’t know if anyone raised it with you, but someone, a regular, was trying to get people to donate to fdl specifying it should go to your medical bills……someone else said you might rather have it go to fdl………quite a few wanted to know what you wanted people to do………don’t know if it was addressed…….
((((firedog jane))))
71 donors, $2,558 for Jim.
Yeah!
My donation money for this week went to Susan Hu, I’ll get HImes next week.
I neglected to post that addy above for free mammos and paps.
http://www.cdc.gov/cancer/nbccedp/about.htm
this program is only in 15 states but provides chronic disease screening to eligible women.
(my former site is one of them)
http://www.cdc.gov/wisewoman/
CC, I knew the sugar and Iran thing was a joke, I was trying to figure out what made sugar suddenly so valuable. Alternative fuel. Makes sense, since now we are running out of corn. What if we just stopped using the machines that need that kind of fuel – internal combustion engines, I think they are called. ;-)
and tw3k-left you a few comments at the end of the last thread about kim. around the 140’s
ccmask @ 48
You can bet that US companies are looking around various tropical places for where they can control sugar production.
Fern @ 49
clean water, clean air, trees, life… all endangered and rare now, I think. But we’ve conquered Iraq :P
OK, 10 bucks for Himes, because Shays is an A-hole, and 10 bucks for Jerry Nadler, just because I liked his speech during the FISA vote stupidity.
ccmask @ 48
“Yes, we have no bananas. And yes, we have no sugar farms either.”
AZ Matt @ 56
Hmmm what about Paraguay? It has plenty of water for irrigation. Is the climate conducive for sugar?
Mad Dogs @ 59
I’ve got some property in Panama that grows great bananas. Wonder if they can be made into ethanol? (Yes, it is on the same island as some company that used to be named United Fruit . . .)
AZ Matt @ 56
Paraguay?
Eureka Springs @ 60
beets me.
CTuttle @ 46
I remember another high dollar cash crop from days over there but that’s another story…
punaise @ 63
where’s my switch grass?
The Paraguayan sugar refinery of Tebicuary, the largest private enterprise in the country, has initiated courses in family planning education for its workers. The Paraguayan Centre for Studies on Population is in charge of courses and lectures. The Centre operates the only family planning clinic in Tebicuary, which also distributes general health services to the community.
Eureka Springs @ 60
Paraguay is a sugar producer. I wouldn’t worry about George – he doesn’t know how to farm because it is hard work.
Bbbbut what about Brush, Matt? He knows how to cut brush.
AZ Matt @ 67
He can get the fields ready though.
dakine01 @ 64
Paka lo lo or Maui Chips?
OK, I am getting too silly. Back to work. See ya later tonight.
Elliott @ 65
daylight come, and me wanna go home.
james @ 70
Woweee
Gnome de Plume @ 71
GdP speaks for me.
Gnome de Plume @ 68
You know, don’t you, that we want to limit tropical deforestation so he needs to leave his chainsaw at home. Rum & Coke for George.
punaise @ 72
Day-Oh
It’s a good thing Gnome de Plume left.
OT but important:
I was just over @ Huffington Post and saw that Arianna is featuring Matt Bai [promo’ing his book, natch] during a “chat” tonight.
Perhaps he could reply to a few FDL queries.
And here is a nice pic of Bush in the cane fields, from the NYT.and an article called Ethanol Pact: A Sweet Deal?
dakine01 @ 64
Heh, it’s still a cash crop…!!! ;-)
Mauimom @ 77
OOOoooooooohhhh, might have to stay up for that one. He’s toast.
Daily GluKos
Up to 81 donors and $2,645 for Himes. Tootin’ right along we are!
Mauimom @ 77
I don’t get Arianna.
Oh, I know, big ego. That’s fine.
Her heart and head seem to be in the right place.
But why the fuck does she give the time of day to this guy?
Baird on PBS
raven @ 73
Zowwee
Shay’s says the idea that the Congressional visit to Iraq are, in no way, dog and pony shows.
raven @ 86
Boy, I murdered that sentence!
Shay’s says that the Congressional visit to Iraq are, in no way, dog and pony shows.
Awesome, Jane!
Here’s another great must-see from Shays lately…in the same press conference when he complained about “partisan timelines”, he refused to answer a question from a Democratic constituent (and blogger at MLN) because MattW is “just, like, totally a Democrat”:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrLMF5w7Yfk
raven @ 86
He’s right. They’re more lke hyena and camel shows.
Will I cross the River Styx for this?
Mona
Diddley & Petty
Baird “Out of Iraq is not the answer”.
raven @ 73
Evening, brother.
raven @ 86
And he got that from an Senior Administration Official: Barney.
raven @ 87
that’s because it’s a dodge and phony show.
Elliott @ 90
Always liked Quicksilver’s version.
raven and james,
As someone said here yesterday, get some.
james @ 92
What’s up? I was looking at the AFVN website today and they have some interesting film of Quang Tri on there.
Maura @ 88
Just the sound of his voice makes me cringe. What a WATB!
AZ Matt @ 56
“Helloooooooo Carribean! Remember us?”
I’ll be in for Himes as soon as possible sbecause of the enthusiastic support of the Blue America founders, and his writings here. However, someone please work with him messaging. That video clip left me saying, “Wha?” Plays into the whole “Liberals can’t clearly state a position” that was used so much against John Kerry, which is total bullshit, I know…
Unfortunately as we all know, politics is mostly about the soundbite, and you gotta nail every opportunity. Shays is va ery good robot for the most part, except for the moments when the circuits short out in his tiny little head. (youtube link)
Himes should be able to answer that question very confidently and in a sentance or two. He can expand more if people follow up, but he needs to inspire confidence when answering questions. Maybe he’s good at this, but this is the only video I’ve seen of him, so just making that observation…
Himes ‘08!!!
Jonathan @ 96
Rut ro, the old guys are on deck!
raven @ 91
If that’s not the answer then he’s asking the wrong question.
Done—I’m in for $10. And that’s out of my upcoming vacation money!
But anything is worth wiping that smirk off Shays’ face. I heard him a couple weeks ago whining about how mean his opponents were being by throwing his words back at him and thought, “Well, you should find a line of work which doesn’t require accountability.”
Anyone else note how many Republicans are deeply offended when their own words are repeated back to them?
Gnome de Plume @ 40
I believe Brazil uses sugar cane to produce most or all of their energy. Think you can make ethanol or a reasonable facsimile from sugar cane.
OK, Jane, anything for you. Just tossed some $$ in. Is there any way to get the ActBlue page to remember my info? It would make it so much easier to donate whenever the whim hits.
Schakowsky hung pretty tough with these assholes on PBS. They tell us the September report is going to be independent and unvarnished. My dying fucking ass.
CocoaBeach @ 105
Agree!
Mad Dogs @ 93
Yeah, and they couldn’t find the pony anyway.
raven @ 95
it’s a worthy version.
Elliott @ 109
Then there was the Stones.
dakine01 @ 64
Yeah, and if you could turn that crop into fuel you can bet it would be legalized so fast it would make your head spin. Only problem is, the price would go up ‘cuz demand would be so much higher.
raven @ 110
there will ALWAYS be The Stones.
Jane (and everyone else),
Thanks for your wonderful support. The campaign trail is exhausting. But two things keep a spring in my step: the knowledge that we’re all working together to pull our nation out of a long dark night, and the support of so many wonderful and wonderfully concerned people.
I will not let you down.
Jim
Regarding the Cheney Plan for Iran buildup quoted by George packer via TPM this am, I thought you might like this postscript I just found at the end of his article:
“Postscript: Barnett Rubin just called me. His source spoke with a neocon think-tanker who corroborated the story of the propaganda campaign and had this to say about it: “I am a Republican. I am a conservative. But I’m not a raging lunatic. This is lunatic.” “
And thanks for the Bo Diddley.
Jim Himes @ 113
Go Jim!
All right.
I sound like a broken record.
I’ve got a bunch of Stones on original vinyl.
Jim Himes @ 113
Good on ya, friend.
Brings tears to this old liberal’s eyes.
zennurse @ 114
passing it along from a friend!
zennurse @ 114
And then there’s Cheney:
“I’m not REALLY a conservative or a Republican, but I really am a raving, dangerous, deluded lunatic. And, I might add, a terrible shot.”
I’ve been here longer today than in the last 6 months, have to take a break and have a hot tub soak. I know, poor me.
As my grandfather used to say,”Be sweet”.
z
Jonathan @ 116
Now
England’s Greatest Hit Makers
12×5
saw em at McCormick Place in Nov 65.
AZ Matt @ 75
Haven’t you people heard? George will be too busy giving $50K-$75K speeches to replenish his coffers.
Hello FDL – I’m working on keeping cool whenever I have a strong urge to scream at my party. But never mind, there are more important ways I must spend my energy. Forgive my righteous anger that needs to be heard. When I go off the deep end, I’m counting on the sane people here to share their words of wisdom. Maybe I should change my handle to PissQuakerGirl.
I listened to Chris Shays and he is committed to one thing – double speak. He contradicted himself at the end of every statement. I will say this, he is the same White House voice we’ve heard for five years.
Bush and Republicans will run the clock out and blame the next elected party unless it is Republicans, at that point the violent occupation of Iraq will continue.
So, I’ll call my Reps ans Senators, again. And, if necessary, again and again until they dread when the phone rings.
No more Mr. Nice Guy!
QuakerGirl @ 123
Hi QG, maybe PissedQuakerGirl would be better
raven @ 84
Thank you for the heads up. Is there a link perchance?
new thread upstairs with Lane Hudson.
FunnyD
Accidental Zedstress
Jonathan @ 96
I’m there, Jonathan, I’m there.raven @ 101
That’s right, Scooby!!
I didn’t see the Quang Tri pics at AFVN…do I have to click through to something?
Is anybody else watching Boustany and Chris Shays lying their butts off on the NewsHour right now?
Yow. They’re desperate to maintain The War at Home.
Jane, just for you, I’m in for BlueAm.
hmmm…ya know all of “this close” sounds familiar
ah …now I knnow where I heard it…11/2005
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news…..130-2.html