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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/04/late-late-nite-fdl-whats-not-to-love/#comment-945333</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 22:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-944168&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;BigMitch @ 45&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-944158&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;TJ @ 36&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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there is  congressman in Idaho of the Democratic persuasion who won his last election by 2:1 margin. The son of a former governor, he would be a formidable candidate, especially against Senator Craig.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sounds great. If the Repubs don’t put some other heavy hitter up against Craig, then maybe we do have a shot at electing a Dem out there.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-944168"><em>BigMitch @ 45</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-944158"><em>TJ @ 36</em></a></p>
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there is  congressman in Idaho of the Democratic persuasion who won his last election by 2:1 margin. The son of a former governor, he would be a formidable candidate, especially against Senator Craig.</p>
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<p>Sounds great. If the Repubs don’t put some other heavy hitter up against Craig, then maybe we do have a shot at electing a Dem out there.</p>
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		<title>By: Amilius</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/04/late-late-nite-fdl-whats-not-to-love/#comment-944949</link>
		<dc:creator>Amilius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 17:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Listening to the NPR commentary this morning, and the careful parsing of language that Craig and Co. are using, it occurs to me that the staring through cracks, tap dancing, and hand gestures may be ‘re-positioned’ as ‘lurid’ behavior and not the ‘lewd’ behavior that constitute the disorderly conduct to which he pleaded guilty.  The bottom line, pardon the expression, is that they will attempt to parse hypocrisy to the point of the ridiculous.  Craig is a ’straight’ family values Republican who likes public restroom room sex with other men but is not ‘gay’, as he demonstrates by vilifying those men comfortable with sex with other men in private.  Here’s hoping this display of conspicuous hypocrisy opens the eyes of the undecided and willfully blind to the many forms of ungracious hypocrisy that pervade the self-proclaimed ‘righteous’, ‘exceptional’, ‘advantaged’ and ‘privileged’ Repugs.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Listening to the NPR commentary this morning, and the careful parsing of language that Craig and Co. are using, it occurs to me that the staring through cracks, tap dancing, and hand gestures may be ‘re-positioned’ as ‘lurid’ behavior and not the ‘lewd’ behavior that constitute the disorderly conduct to which he pleaded guilty.  The bottom line, pardon the expression, is that they will attempt to parse hypocrisy to the point of the ridiculous.  Craig is a ’straight’ family values Republican who likes public restroom room sex with other men but is not ‘gay’, as he demonstrates by vilifying those men comfortable with sex with other men in private.  Here’s hoping this display of conspicuous hypocrisy opens the eyes of the undecided and willfully blind to the many forms of ungracious hypocrisy that pervade the self-proclaimed ‘righteous’, ‘exceptional’, ‘advantaged’ and ‘privileged’ Repugs.</p>
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		<title>By: Doodle Bean</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/04/late-late-nite-fdl-whats-not-to-love/#comment-944506</link>
		<dc:creator>Doodle Bean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 13:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I LOVE it!!  Craig is going to try and get off on a technicality!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That is some ‘law and order’ Repug we got here, folks!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I LOVE it!!  Craig is going to try and get off on a technicality!</p>
<p>That is some ‘law and order’ Repug we got here, folks!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Pordon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Pordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Fight it, Larry! If you just slink away everyone might think you were some sort of poof! You don’t want that, do you? No, be macho and prove you aren’t gay by staying in office. You can do it!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fight it, Larry! If you just slink away everyone might think you were some sort of poof! You don’t want that, do you? No, be macho and prove you aren’t gay by staying in office. You can do it!</p>
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		<title>By: Arnie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Interesting story about the decline of North Sea fisherys to the point of extinction in the Guardian. (Irish fisherys are headed the same way). It will be interesting to see the effects of global heating of the oceans will further have upon the marine ecology. Just in case anyone is interested.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://society.guardian.co.uk/societyguardian/story/0,,2162131,00.html&quot;&gt;http://society.guardian.co.uk/.....31,00.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting story about the decline of North Sea fisherys to the point of extinction in the Guardian. (Irish fisherys are headed the same way). It will be interesting to see the effects of global heating of the oceans will further have upon the marine ecology. Just in case anyone is interested.</p>
<p><a href="http://society.guardian.co.uk/societyguardian/story/0,,2162131,00.html">http://society.guardian.co.uk/&#8230;..31,00.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: cynic</title>
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		<dc:creator>cynic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Trex:&lt;br /&gt;
While this guy is a sleeze, he’s a sleeze because he’s (as Texas Betsy) says, part of the “Destroy the Constitution” (not her words) movement. I don’t think it’s a matter of the fact that he’s gay. I think that it’s a matter of the fact that he’s looking for sex in a public toilet. I also understand that while I might not give a crap about someone’s sexual orientation, the wingnuts do. So maybe I’m arguing against myself and my philosophy that we should get the wingnuts by any means possible, but still……&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trex:<br />
While this guy is a sleeze, he’s a sleeze because he’s (as Texas Betsy) says, part of the “Destroy the Constitution” (not her words) movement. I don’t think it’s a matter of the fact that he’s gay. I think that it’s a matter of the fact that he’s looking for sex in a public toilet. I also understand that while I might not give a crap about someone’s sexual orientation, the wingnuts do. So maybe I’m arguing against myself and my philosophy that we should get the wingnuts by any means possible, but still……</p>
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		<title>By: Loo Hoo.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loo Hoo.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Morning everyone.  I wonder if the democrats will actually reframe the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/05/washington/05cong.html?_r=1&amp;th=&amp;adxnnl=1&amp;oref=slogin&amp;emc=th&amp;adxnnlx=1188993856-7byRt5XygbnqOVNuRteSpQ&quot;&gt;Iraq debate&lt;/a&gt;?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Morning everyone.  I wonder if the democrats will actually reframe the <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/05/washington/05cong.html?_r=1&amp;th=&amp;adxnnl=1&amp;oref=slogin&amp;emc=th&amp;adxnnlx=1188993856-7byRt5XygbnqOVNuRteSpQ">Iraq debate</a>?</p>
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		<title>By: Mauimom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mauimom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I know that no matter how many strange men a Republican deep throats in a public toilet, that man can never, ever be gay. Not if he’s married and in good standing with The Party. To call such a man “gay” would be vile and slanderous calumny.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Vile &amp; slanderous &lt;b&gt;to gays&lt;/b&gt;!!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I know that no matter how many strange men a Republican deep throats in a public toilet, that man can never, ever be gay. Not if he’s married and in good standing with The Party. To call such a man “gay” would be vile and slanderous calumny.</p>
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<p>Vile &amp; slanderous <b>to gays</b>!!</p>
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		<title>By: woid</title>
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		<dc:creator>woid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;TRex…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In that voicemail, Larry Craig said&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Arlen Specter is now willing to come out in my defense.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TRex…</p>
<p>In that voicemail, Larry Craig said</p>
<p>“Arlen Specter is now willing to come out in my defense.”</p>
<p>!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: raven</title>
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		<dc:creator>raven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 11:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-944411&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;BlueStateRedHead @ 271&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Raven, &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s not sex, but it’s trouble for Romney and a chance for some of the listening wisdom discussed last by &lt;a href=&quot;mailto:Raven@259&quot;&gt;Raven@259&lt;/a&gt; by ourselves, citizen journalists&lt;br /&gt;
(with h/t to original commenter, but the comment is too long to insert)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mass. Dems mount a Romney Fact site as an aide  to bloggers and want their assistance. as an anti-rightwing-radio.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2007/09/05/democrats_unveil_a_file_on_romn&quot;&gt;http://www.boston.com/news/loc.....le_on_romn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Christopher Lehane, who helped direct opposition research for the presidential campaigns of Al Gore, Kerry, and Wesley Clark and who is not affiliated with any campaign this time, said in an e-mail that such opposition research sites could help shape a candidate’s “character storyline,” the overall sense voters have of the candidate, by delivering information to bloggers who then shape it to bolster their arguments.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s actually vice-versa, since in polspeak, he means we have shaped/can shape their arguments, but they can’t admit it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If we can add listening to our shaping, will that work, Raven?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I missed something here, are you sure you are talking to me? My comment was at the very end and only had to do with having read Friere.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-944411"><em>BlueStateRedHead @ 271</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Raven, </p>
<p>It’s not sex, but it’s trouble for Romney and a chance for some of the listening wisdom discussed last by <a href="mailto:Raven@259">Raven@259</a> by ourselves, citizen journalists<br />
(with h/t to original commenter, but the comment is too long to insert)</p>
<p>Mass. Dems mount a Romney Fact site as an aide  to bloggers and want their assistance. as an anti-rightwing-radio.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2007/09/05/democrats_unveil_a_file_on_romn">http://www.boston.com/news/loc&#8230;..le_on_romn</a></p>
<p>“Christopher Lehane, who helped direct opposition research for the presidential campaigns of Al Gore, Kerry, and Wesley Clark and who is not affiliated with any campaign this time, said in an e-mail that such opposition research sites could help shape a candidate’s “character storyline,” the overall sense voters have of the candidate, by delivering information to bloggers who then shape it to bolster their arguments.”</p>
<p>It’s actually vice-versa, since in polspeak, he means we have shaped/can shape their arguments, but they can’t admit it.</p>
<p>If we can add listening to our shaping, will that work, Raven?</p>
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<p>I missed something here, are you sure you are talking to me? My comment was at the very end and only had to do with having read Friere.</p>
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