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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/03/bush-in-retirement/#comment-941051</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 00:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Bush…retirement…?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don’t get it. When did Bush work? Ya can’t retire without workin’ first, can ya?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Brush clearing doesn’t count!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p>I don’t get it. When did Bush work? Ya can’t retire without workin’ first, can ya?</p>
<p>Brush clearing doesn’t count!</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/03/bush-in-retirement/#comment-941037</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 00:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-940164&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;ironranger @ 67&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
… A picture is worth a thousand words.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;USW Presidential Survey of Members Results&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The results are as follows:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Top Choice&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;John Edwards     37.1%&lt;br /&gt;
Hillary Clinton  25.3%&lt;br /&gt;
Barack Obama     12.6%&lt;br /&gt;
Dennis Kucinich   5.8%&lt;br /&gt;
Joe Biden         5.3%&lt;br /&gt;
Fred Thompson     4.0%&lt;br /&gt;
Rudy Giuliani     2.8%&lt;br /&gt;
John McCain       2.2%&lt;br /&gt;
Mitt Romney       1.3%&lt;br /&gt;
Bill Richardson   1.2%&lt;br /&gt;
Ron Paul          1.0%&lt;br /&gt;
Mike Huckabee     0.5%&lt;br /&gt;
Chris Dodd        0.3%&lt;br /&gt;
Mike Gravel       0.2%&lt;br /&gt;
Tom Tancredo      0.2%&lt;br /&gt;
Sam Brownback     0.2%&lt;br /&gt;
Duncan Hunter     0.0%&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-940164"><em>ironranger @ 67</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>
… A picture is worth a thousand words.</p>
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<p>USW Presidential Survey of Members Results</p>
<p>The results are as follows:</p>
<p>Top Choice</p>
<p>John Edwards     37.1%<br />
Hillary Clinton  25.3%<br />
Barack Obama     12.6%<br />
Dennis Kucinich   5.8%<br />
Joe Biden         5.3%<br />
Fred Thompson     4.0%<br />
Rudy Giuliani     2.8%<br />
John McCain       2.2%<br />
Mitt Romney       1.3%<br />
Bill Richardson   1.2%<br />
Ron Paul          1.0%<br />
Mike Huckabee     0.5%<br />
Chris Dodd        0.3%<br />
Mike Gravel       0.2%<br />
Tom Tancredo      0.2%<br />
Sam Brownback     0.2%<br />
Duncan Hunter     0.0%</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/03/bush-in-retirement/#comment-940988</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 23:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-940106&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Peterr @ 11&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
A good writer can make even a small article speak volumes. Or so I’ve been told. ;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Eyuh.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<blockquote><p>
A good writer can make even a small article speak volumes. Or so I’ve been told. ;)</p>
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<p>Eyuh.</p>
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		<title>By: mls</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/03/bush-in-retirement/#comment-940768</link>
		<dc:creator>mls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 21:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-940188&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;selise @ 77&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-940146&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Scarecrow @ 50&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Transcript?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=07/09/03/138216&quot;&gt;transcript is all ready posted&lt;/a&gt; - it’s usually not up until a couple of hours after the show - must be because it was pre-recorded. here you go:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;LAWRENCE FERLINGHETTI: Well, you haven’t have time to be acclimated or acclimated in the worst ways by modern industrial corporate monoculture, for instance, or American consumer society, which the way American consumer society is worked out, it seems to me the suburbs of America are the great American death.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You know, I’d like to read one poem that I just wrote. I really want to get this out.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;AMY GOODMAN: Read.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;LAWRENCE FERLINGHETTI: Especially since Khalil Gibran has been in the news lately, including yesterday or the day before on your program. “Pity the Nation,” after Khalil Gibran.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Pity the nation whose people are sheep,&lt;br /&gt;
and whose shepherds mislead them.&lt;br /&gt;
Pity the nation whose leaders are liars, whose sages are silenced,&lt;br /&gt;
and whose bigots haunt the airwaves.&lt;br /&gt;
Pity the nation that raises not its voice,&lt;br /&gt;
except to praise conquerors and acclaim the bully as hero&lt;br /&gt;
and aims to rule the world with force and by torture.&lt;br /&gt;
Pity the nation that knows no other language but its own&lt;br /&gt;
and no other culture but its own.&lt;br /&gt;
Pity the nation whose breath is money&lt;br /&gt;
and sleeps the sleep of the too well fed.&lt;br /&gt;
Pity the nation — oh, pity the people who allow their rights to erode&lt;br /&gt;
and their freedoms to be washed away.&lt;br /&gt;
My country, tears of thee, sweet land of liberty.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;AMY GOODMAN: Lawrence Ferlinghetti. So what about the state of the world today and our role in it?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;LAWRENCE FERLINGHETTI: It’s rushing over the cliff. I think practically all of Congress is totally ignoring the ecological crisis fast ascending on us…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;still, nice to listen to him read it… (audio, as well as transcript is at the link)…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt; Here is the original Khalil Gibran from the Garden of the Prophet &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kahlil.org/gardenlp&quot;&gt;http://www.kahlil.org/gardenlp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-940188"><em>selise @ 77</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-940146"><em>Scarecrow @ 50</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Transcript?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>the <a href="http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=07/09/03/138216">transcript is all ready posted</a> &#8211; it’s usually not up until a couple of hours after the show &#8211; must be because it was pre-recorded. here you go:</p>
<blockquote><p>LAWRENCE FERLINGHETTI: Well, you haven’t have time to be acclimated or acclimated in the worst ways by modern industrial corporate monoculture, for instance, or American consumer society, which the way American consumer society is worked out, it seems to me the suburbs of America are the great American death.</p>
<p>You know, I’d like to read one poem that I just wrote. I really want to get this out.</p>
<p>AMY GOODMAN: Read.</p>
<p>LAWRENCE FERLINGHETTI: Especially since Khalil Gibran has been in the news lately, including yesterday or the day before on your program. “Pity the Nation,” after Khalil Gibran.</p>
<p><em>Pity the nation whose people are sheep,<br />
and whose shepherds mislead them.<br />
Pity the nation whose leaders are liars, whose sages are silenced,<br />
and whose bigots haunt the airwaves.<br />
Pity the nation that raises not its voice,<br />
except to praise conquerors and acclaim the bully as hero<br />
and aims to rule the world with force and by torture.<br />
Pity the nation that knows no other language but its own<br />
and no other culture but its own.<br />
Pity the nation whose breath is money<br />
and sleeps the sleep of the too well fed.<br />
Pity the nation — oh, pity the people who allow their rights to erode<br />
and their freedoms to be washed away.<br />
My country, tears of thee, sweet land of liberty.</em></p>
<p>AMY GOODMAN: Lawrence Ferlinghetti. So what about the state of the world today and our role in it?</p>
<p>LAWRENCE FERLINGHETTI: It’s rushing over the cliff. I think practically all of Congress is totally ignoring the ecological crisis fast ascending on us…</p>
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<p>still, nice to listen to him read it… (audio, as well as transcript is at the link)…</p>
</blockquote>
<p> Here is the original Khalil Gibran from the Garden of the Prophet <a href="http://www.kahlil.org/gardenlp">http://www.kahlil.org/gardenlp</a></p>
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		<title>By: mr.ed</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/03/bush-in-retirement/#comment-940461</link>
		<dc:creator>mr.ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 17:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;His speaking dates will wither once he does that “no questions” line a couple times.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>His speaking dates will wither once he does that “no questions” line a couple times.</p>
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		<title>By: Judge Moonbox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Judge Moonbox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 16:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Second, he wants to spend time at his proposed “Freedom Institute,” where he’ll help teach young conservatives how he spread freedom and democracy around the world,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Does he think that showing how his enmity enabled Ahmadinejad to get the Iranian people to overlook his misrule will prove that? Or how about how his scrapping the ABM treaty let Putin play the Victim Card, and thereby get away with murder?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt; while strengthening America’s own democratic principles and institutions.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt; Like how lying about how the “Sanctity of Marriage” required him to call for a Constitutional amendment to prevent the politically incorrect from getting married got many people in key states to vote against their own interests? Or how about how getting the Justice Department to focus on the few, unorganized attempts at voter fraud and ignore the massive attempts at vote suppression made it easier for the voters to express their preferences? If the media was a millionth as “Liberally biased” as the Conservatives whine it it, he would never have been allowed to win on the truckload of technicalities.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Second, he wants to spend time at his proposed “Freedom Institute,” where he’ll help teach young conservatives how he spread freedom and democracy around the world,</p>
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<p>Does he think that showing how his enmity enabled Ahmadinejad to get the Iranian people to overlook his misrule will prove that? Or how about how his scrapping the ABM treaty let Putin play the Victim Card, and thereby get away with murder?
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<blockquote><p> while strengthening America’s own democratic principles and institutions.</p></blockquote>
<p> Like how lying about how the “Sanctity of Marriage” required him to call for a Constitutional amendment to prevent the politically incorrect from getting married got many people in key states to vote against their own interests? Or how about how getting the Justice Department to focus on the few, unorganized attempts at voter fraud and ignore the massive attempts at vote suppression made it easier for the voters to express their preferences? If the media was a millionth as “Liberally biased” as the Conservatives whine it it, he would never have been allowed to win on the truckload of technicalities.</p>
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		<title>By: Furious</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/03/bush-in-retirement/#comment-940386</link>
		<dc:creator>Furious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 16:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The Draper book &lt;i&gt;Dead Certain&lt;/i&gt; offers a dismaying portrait of President Bush obsessed with his legacy - and potential financial windfall - after leaving office. But even more disturbing was the discussion of the Iraq war and the administration’s calamitous 2003 move to disband the Iraqi army. When it came to perhaps the pivotal decision of the war, America’s first MBA President simply acted like an absentee landlord.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For the details, see:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.perrspectives.com/blog/archives/000744.htm&quot;&gt;“NYT: Bush Slept as Iraqi Army was Disbanded.”&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Draper book <i>Dead Certain</i> offers a dismaying portrait of President Bush obsessed with his legacy &#8211; and potential financial windfall &#8211; after leaving office. But even more disturbing was the discussion of the Iraq war and the administration’s calamitous 2003 move to disband the Iraqi army. When it came to perhaps the pivotal decision of the war, America’s first MBA President simply acted like an absentee landlord.</p>
<p>For the details, see:<br />
<b><a href="http://www.perrspectives.com/blog/archives/000744.htm">“NYT: Bush Slept as Iraqi Army was Disbanded.”</a></b></p>
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		<title>By: Ishmael</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/03/bush-in-retirement/#comment-940362</link>
		<dc:creator>Ishmael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 15:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;When I think of the good work that Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton and even Herbert Hoover did after leaving the White House, and then I read about Bush’s priorities for his retirement, “makin money” and “workin’ for freedom” at a wingnut welfare thinktank, I think that his major ambition is to become the nation’s “worst former President” after becoming the unanimous choice for “worst President ever”.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I think of the good work that Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton and even Herbert Hoover did after leaving the White House, and then I read about Bush’s priorities for his retirement, “makin money” and “workin’ for freedom” at a wingnut welfare thinktank, I think that his major ambition is to become the nation’s “worst former President” after becoming the unanimous choice for “worst President ever”.</p>
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		<title>By: Adie</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/03/bush-in-retirement/#comment-940307</link>
		<dc:creator>Adie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 15:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Heck.  If only I had $50000, I’d put it down an he wooodn’ haf-ta say a woid.  Just sit there over the dunkin’ tank at the county fair.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I fear I’d have ta stand in line, tho.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heck.  If only I had $50000, I’d put it down an he wooodn’ haf-ta say a woid.  Just sit there over the dunkin’ tank at the county fair.</p>
<p>I fear I’d have ta stand in line, tho.</p>
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		<title>By: 1970cs</title>
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		<dc:creator>1970cs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 15:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Draper got Bush to agree to this by explaining that by getting this book out now it would provide the frame for all other following recordings of his failure.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m not boxing myself in.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Draper got Bush to agree to this by explaining that by getting this book out now it would provide the frame for all other following recordings of his failure.  </p>
<p>I’m not boxing myself in.</p>
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