Last week, I detailed a bit of the background information that I have heard on the Southwick nomination to the 5th Circuit, and the SJC vote that allowed the nomination out of committee. After the piece went up here, I was contacted by no fewer than five sources -- some on the Hill, some with contacts there -- all of whom were telling me a very similar tale.
As in, I have several people who work in and around the Hill (Capitol Hill, not the paper), who have proved reliable with information in the past -- all separately telling me the same story. But none of them were willing to go on record for me. If I'd heard it from one, or even two people, I'd wonder. But from five separate people on five separate phone calls? It's a rumor, but a really pervasive and consistent one that I've been piecing together for a while.
I tell you this because we have to do better than this. America needs strong, principled leadership. And I think that a number of the people involved in this have it in them to give that to this country -- they have simply not flexed those muscles enough in the last few years to remember that. So consider this a nudge from a citizen who thinks that all of these folks have done amazing things in their lifetime and performed great service to their nation -- who is simply asking that everyone on the Hill start putting the nation first instead of their own egos. Please.
The story is this: Pat Leahy got snookered by Arlen Specter, into delaying the vote on Southwick so that the GOP leadership could work on Dianne Feinstein by playing to her ego. And Leahy fell for it -- even though he had the votes to shut down the Southwick vote altogether back in July.
Why didn't the SJC simply vote then, knowing that they could stop the Southwick nomination entirely? No clue. Really...no freaking clue.
Here's how the behind-the-scenes blather goes: Specter coaxed Leahy into a delay, a sort of gentleman's agreement not to vote, and then the GOP started whining publicly about the delay they, themselves, had asked for...all the while using said delay to kiss up to Feinstein. Word is that both Trent Lott and Mitch McConnell played to Di's sense of "fairness and integrity," and that Lott did so by asking DiFi to give Southwick a second look see interview.
When she did so, Southwick came in and turned on the Southern charming man wattage, and won her over with his "nice guy" persona, hideous judicial record be damned.
Once Di's mind was changed, the GOP ratcheted up the whining about their vote delay, until they bugged Leahy into setting a vote. Once it was set, several of the other Democrats on the committee realized that DiFi was changing her vote, and informed Leahy of that fact -- and told him that he needed to speak to Feinstein about it. Feinstein's staff says that she told him herself prior to the vote, but I've heard from more than one source that isn't what they heard.
Either way, Leahy didn't offset the Republican flattery with some of his own to counteract that before calling the vote. And, ultimately, DiFi voted Southwick through to the full Senate. And the rumor I was hearing that there had been a head count and that the DiFi vote was a surprise? Most likely a face-saving rumor on someone's part...because it certainly sounds like there was quite a heads up -- from more than one Democratic Senator on the committee -- that DiFi's vote was going to be to allow Southwick through, and the vote was called anyway.
Bottom line: Specter played Leahy like a badly tuned fiddle, and DiFi fell for a schmooze campaign because she was feeling like the girl who doesn't get nearly enough attention at the dance. And what do we get? Southwick on the bench. Lovely. I contacted Sen. Leahy's office about this issue last week -- asking why a vote had been called if it was already known that DiFi was voting to pass the Southwick nomination through, and I've gotten no answer to my query as yet.
This also has been a point of much crowing for Lott, who is taking credit for the Feinstein flip and bragging about town on his persuasive prowess. And the GOP is trying to use this as a means to wedge Feinstein further from the Dem caucus in the Senate by telling her that mean liberals don't understand her fine integrity and commitment to Senate tradition, and that we don't understand her -- in other words, they are playing both sides against the middle, again.
And what do we meanies on the blogs and out in the hinterlands of America really want? We want them to do their jobs.
A Bush judicial nominee that ought to have been stopped cold in a tactical certainty is, instead, headed for a full Senate vote and, from what I am hearing, most likely a confirmation. This is me being pissed off...and thinking about much better tactics, which I'll discuss in the next post. But as Jane said yesterday, some leadership would go a long, long way about now...
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can’t be…zed??? for a lurker??
absolutely wrong…
burlygrrll @ 1
You got it! :-)
morning! hold out your cups - coffee is ready…
I sometimes don’t know who in my party I can trust. Perhaps I’m paranoid.
OldCoastie @ 4
Ooh, goodie! Although it’s already broiling here and not even 8am yet (agh)…
Oklahoma kiddo @ 5
Ditto OKK. Who are these freakin’ people. And singles.
A citizen’s work is never done.
pb - I’m in the same neighborhood and I just ran the a/c all night… it IS broiling already!
burlygrrll @ 1
Lurk no more, you’re one of us now :)
Welcome to the Lake, and please let us hear from you often.
Jeebus Katy!!! It just goes to show that Scottish Haggis can’t be trusted at all. How can Leahy trust any Republican at this point? Hasn’t he learned by now?
OldCoastie @ 9
No a/c in this house, I’ve got fans running everywhere to try and get all the stale air from last night out. It bites when it doesn’t cool off enough at night to get the house cooled down *frown*
Senators, like the rest of us, are humans who make mistakes every day.
I believe we can hold people accountable while still honoring those like Senator Leahy who are very, very alone out there fighting for us.
This is going to be a close one, we need every ally and every friend.
christy, thanks so much for your work to pull back the curtain on this!
I think our muscles have long since atrophied.
I’m confused. The first link goes to a comment in a thread about how some freshman dems are being targeted over a CHAMP vote. Is that an error or does it relate to this 5th circuit nomination?
egregious — exactly so. We should get them to remember that we not only expect better from them, but that they should expect better from themselves.
Generally speaking, the basic problem is that we have a system that does not encourage the nation’s best and brightest from seeking political office. The result is that we have office holders that for the most part are intellectual and moral mediocrities.
“And what do we meanies on the blogs and out in the hinterlands of America really want? We want them to do their jobs.”
Right.
I’m in Baird’s district and have been enjoying the roasting pit here at the lake to no end. Christy thanks for trying to hold these folks accountable for their actions!
Arrrrggggghhhhh! Need . . . more . . . coffee. . .
egregious @ 13
To me, DiFi comes off much worse in this description than Leahy does. But if DiFi is this subsceptible to flattery, then the blogosphere should just turn on the charm and seduce her right back.
I think it’s more likely something else, slightly, is going on behind her actual change of vote, but that’s just me. Either way, it certainly looks like quite a play. How come we never hear of any plays the other way around?
Many Democrats are very frustrated and angry with some in their party. Some are so upset and agitated, they may eventually leave home.
Anna Belle — My bad — it was a mistaken link. Here’s the corrected one — I fixed it in the post.
when, OH WHEN, will the dems get their act together???????
Christy Hardin Smith @ 24
Thanks Christie! Going to read now.
Good morning, pups!
Here’s hoping our reps do a better job at keeping their eye on the ball when they reconvene next week.
And now I’m off to the back yard to do battle with the nutgrass before it broils here, too.
Anna Belle @ 26
Oops! I meant Christy. Sorry.
Heart and soul, DiFi’s a republican and more that a little bit too pro Israel. Not all that different than Lieberkman. Of our two, Boxer is far far and away the better. In fact, Boxer is outstanding.
The Democratic Party really needs to appreciate that loyalty is a two-way street.
This is a real nuts and bolts story of how the wheels of government work. Its embarrassing really. Let’s get some other media, like Rolling Stone, to publish a brief article ASAP. I guess there might be a problem with providing sources. Can it fly like it is? Its very well written and easy to understand. Really gets the heart of our problems. Great reporting Christy!
I want to pull together a few notions, sprinkled over the last couple of days worth of posts. We’ve seen posts detailing how Democrats are cowering in front of the Republicans and asking why, why, why is this so when they hold so much more than they did before the ‘06 elections. Then there was that post about how the Republicans are cowering in front of Bush, who commands the ouster of those senators, etc, who vote against him (cf the comments about Craig voting against the Patriot Act extension, and then being thrown under the bus).
So my question is, with a president whose numbers have been down in the low thirties for *months*, why are *they* also afraid of *him*? The republicans should be peeling off from him left and right. I mean, this whole dysfunctional dynamic really has me puzzled. I don’t get it.
He must have seriously good black mail material on quite a few people in congress…
we need some dems with a spine!!!! dem leadership that is.
morning christy. morning pups.
ken melvin @ 29
I <3 Boxer. Although her non-vote on FISA has me stumped.
This may be the story that’s circulating but it smacks of disingenuousness and political theatre. Is Dianne Feinstein really so vain (insecure?) that she was snookered by the “charms” of Trent Lott, Mitch McConnell and this Southwick character? The first two being the lowest form of snake oil salesman? I don’t know. I’m more cynical than most, but I’d say the true reasons have implications that are not known to the beltway insider crowd. The circle is smaller and the honor is among the thieves.
Jay @ 35
I agree. I think the broad outlines are correct, but the details of the meeting that prompted DiFi to switch her vote are likely something other than flattery. She really is a little too hardnosed for something like that.
Looks like everyone moved to this thread so I’m reposting what I just posted in the previous thread. Sorry guys but I just have to VENT!
You know, I keep thinking that every time the Dems get taken for a ride it MUST be because they have a well thought out plan to make a smart political chess move. Inevitably they never do; they are the gift that keeps on giving…to Bush and to Congress. Is there something so sinister going on that this country will never again have a balance of sanity?
Tomorrow my husband will be walking in our Labor Day Parade, with the DTC members and Chris Murphy (CT-5). He wanted me to come talk to Murphy and ask him key questions about impeachment, Iran, and Iraq. In the past I wouldn’t have missed the opportunity, but tomorrow I think I’ll take a good book (Fierce Invalids in a Hot Climate) and go to the beach. I am so discouraged and disgusted by the utter failure of good men and women unable to show us the leadership we desperately need that it almost seems useless to keep beating this worn out drum. I am nearly 60 years old and don’t know how much more outrage I can muster…it just seems endless.
The Lieberman-HRC-DLC wing of the party is trying to take over the Democratic party. That is of course, if they haven’t already done so. There is a mighty struggle going on right now for the heart, mind and soul of the Party. Wonder who will win?
chicago recluse @ 25
when we hold them accountable. sunshine is good for dems too.
(at least that is my hopeful thought this morning *g*)
More and better Dems in 2008
some leadership would go a long, long way about now…
Hell, I’d settle for basic competence about now.
I’m certainly not gonna send DiFi a check; how does one go about sending a balance?
Patty Morlan @ 37
I watched TV only for a few minutes. Katie Couric bringing “good news” from Iraq makes me sick
Oklahoma kiddo @ 5
You can trust nobody. That’s part of why things are getting worse rather than better now. We trusted the Democratic pols.
We, the people, have to to fix this ourselves. We have no friends on the hill, and we have to stop thinking that we do. Direct action, plus a ruthless system of carrot/stick applications, are all we have left.
We cannot trust a single politician to do the right thing, ever. They have to be forced in even the smallest things. It’s the way our system is designed.
There’s the difference between the parties, by the way — as progressives, it’s easier to force the Dems to do the right thing than it is the Reps. But that never means it’s easy.
Gird up, my friends, we — you and me and everyone else personally — have to get our hands dirty and begin to repair our country ourselves. No one else will do it for us.
It’s not paranoia, it’s realism.
TexBetsy @ 33
Correct!
Feinstein was loathsome as my mayor (had great fun running to fires to cheer firemen while giving away the city to rich developers) and is loathsome as a Senator. She thinks she is everyone’s Mommy. I am not surprised that she can be played this way.
She is an odd mix of hard as nails with the “little people” and fragile ego with those she thinks of as peers. You want her on your side — but getting her is usually a matter of flattering her superior wisdom. Mommy always knows best.
And understand — I like mothers. :-)
Stopping the civil war?
AP - Iraq’s beleaguered prime minister accused his American critics on Sunday of underestimating how hard it is to rebuild his country and failing to appreciate his government’s achievements “such as stopping the civil and sectarian war.”
It has to be some deal they made with her– they agreed to give her some pork or something.
cinnamonape from All Fall Down thread:
I worry.
When I see us form circular firing squads, attacking the very people who have a chance of leading us thru this narrow opening toward Constitutional sanity, I worry.
Leahy is not the devil. Baird is not evil incarnate and he certainly is not the new Lieberman. These are people we NEED.
Such strange behavior. You have to ask yourself if she’s ‘compromised’?
janinsanfran @ 46
This describes the quintessential Republican female politico.
radiofreewill @ 50
If she is, she should resign her seat.
peanutbutter @ 32
Maybe the warrantless wiretapping has been paying some dividends on another front?
Not flattery with Feinstein, she’s got some questionable financial baggage of her husband’s that is floating around in the right wing blogs. I thought maybe the underlying threat was that it would be racheted up if she didn’t do the senatorial thing.
bookwoman @ 38
I think I am with you. America has lost its moral soul and I can’t even find interest in the fact that President Bush has paid billions to “faith-based organizations”.
Family values?
I grew up in the home of a humble, brilliant minister in Boston area churches. We watched every penny and lived among those who had much more in terms of money. My experience of being among people searching for meaning in life beyond financial success is the basis from which I speak.
We were and are able to be a family who nurtures scientists, writers, teachers, ministers, business people, doctors, nurses and more. I am afraid we are a dying breed.
The multibillion dollar buying of Bush’s Base is America’s tragedy. We can’t find moral outrage because it appears to have been bought off.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 45
Second that very loudly, I am yelling and nobody hears me, now off to work, the rocket fuel is working.
radiofreewill at 50 — This isn’t about being “compromised,” it is about not having a cohesive strategy for the whole of the Democratic caucus. Which goes straight back to Jane’s point on absence of leadership. In a void, someone can come in take charge — and they will unless and until we stand up and do our damn jobs.
This isn’t a conspiracy theory, it is reality. The reality is we need to get serious about leading — or someone else will always step in and do it for themselves. This is about leadership, pure and simple.
Egregious is absolutely right that a circular firing squad does us no good. Especially in the case of Leahy who has done fantastic work in the SJC in airing out a LOT of shit that needed airing. I don’t want Leahy out– I want a more effective Leahy. He has it in him, but he first has to let go of the “gentleman’s agreement” mindset — because Specter is slipping in a shiv every freaking time that happens. They are NOT to be trusted, and I do not know how many more times it needs to be proved outright before the Democratic leadership gets it.
The point here is Specter, more than anything else, and the rest of the GOP leadership. They are in it for the win — and we need to be countering that with some serious ass tactical work, and not a handshake deal and a hope and a prayer that they mean it.
Will someone please point out the good points respective of the DLC (and the DLC Leadership Team Members). Perhaps I am missing something.
DiFi just got re-elected. She’s 74 years old. She’ll be about 80 next time she has an opportunity to run…unless she wants to go after ol strom’s record, I think this will be it for her.
People born in 1933 have a different view of war than people born after 1944.
Dianne was mayor of San Francisco and has been an active leader in environmental issues.
She is anti gun and has gotten the shit kicked out of her on that issue- including a recall movement by the “white panthers” (remember them) for wanting to outlaw handguns in San Francisco.
She’s always been “pro defense” and California has LOTS of defense dollars coming it’s way.
She’s worth millions and the number keeps growing- she could spend a couple a million a year and have her net assets grow between now and her death. She is, perhaps, the wealthiest US senator.
This is her swan song- so I doubt that she’s gonna pay much attention to our heckling from the peanut gallery- although I heckler her regularly.
Wow. I just don’t know what to think of the Democratic party anymore. I’ve been a lifelong progressive, active voter, but more and more I’m drawn to the following criteria in the voting booth: not incumbent; not Republican.
Thanks for posting this Christy. I was completely unaware.
I don’t know how one buys a 74 year old multimillionaire…What’s a few thousand bucks? Flattery seems like a good guess- but beats me how the goopers got to her- maybe a trade for a bill she wants badly? Beats me.
It’s a rather sexist story for sure.
radiofreewill @ 50
Maybe she has a wide stance.
I like Edwards, Kucinich, Richardson, Dodd and most other Democrats. And of course Gore. There are perhaps 4-6 Dems I don’t care for.
janinsanfran @ 46
Did somebody say Dianne Banker Buttlicker Margaret Thatcher Feinstein?
radiofreewill @ 50
that was my thought after the FISA vote…
alank — Sexist how exactly? That’s an awfully odd characterization by my read…
Christy Hardin Smith @ 57
Christy, that’s the part that doesn’t ring true to me– this question of “how many more times”. I mean, remember when the Pukes were in charge the way they walked all over the Rats and then just laughed in their faces? It seems clear to me that if they haven’t learned by now they ain’t gonna. We need some more primary challenges– that’s the only thing they listen to.
Boston, we are also that kind of family. And I know several others.
My 8th grade son has three groups of friends —- two of them groups from his pre-AP gifted classes in school. I’m thrilled that he has found 3 other smart, motivated boys who are also being raised by single moms. He calls them his apartment friends since they’re also apartment dwellers. Also hangs out with a group of monied school friends, and also with kids he knows through our religious community.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 66
What comment does this refer to? Was a comment deleted?
The Democrats (and their opposition on the Hill) are playing on a completely different chess board than we are. I have not seen enough evidence that “our needs” come in to play when they make their decisions. Yes Leahy has fought the GOP and the Executive on numerous occasions, sometimes valiantly, but he’s capitulated and pussyfooted more often than he’s won any serious victories for the people that stand behind him. We’ve been burned too many times to believe that these millionaires (b?) are dealing in good faith.
Riesz Fischer @ 67
Even that has lost some power in the wake of Lieberman. Not to say we shouldn’t try, of course.
And this is what our wonderful media is NOT reporting.
Part of the reason our Congressional Dems in DC are so out of it is that they’ve been immersed in the GOP/Media Complex stew for decades to the point that they barely know up from down; just like the rest of us, they have to fight a media that is hostile to anyone to the left of Attila the Hun — the problem is that many of them don’t realize they’re in a fight, especially when the reporters are so nice and schmoozy.
Remember, the GOP/Media Complex goes back well before Rupert Murdoch; read On Bended Knee: The Press and the Reagan Presidency and you’ll see how the media, working hand-in-glove with the GOP, enabled Ronnie every step of the way.
Still thinkin bout DiFi
Doubt if she can be BRIBED- but she COULD be threatened–she was found guilty and fined for campaign infractions in the past. Her net worth goes up every year by a staggering amount…
Maybe goopers caught her fillin tank at the company pump and are hangin it over her head.
Riesz — Not true. The ones who want to do their jobs well and care about the results listen quite well. I have had great interaction with Sen. Leahy’s office in the past on a number of issues — and he really has coordinated some fantastic hearings on particular issues for which he ought to be commended.
But there is a wholesale lack of leadership on overarching tactics that has to be remedied. The stakes are too high right now for us to suffer through having our asses handed to us by people holding a pair of twos. The GOP is at a low ebb, and we ought to be wiping the floor with them. It is high time the Democratic leadership realized that and started acting on it. And I’m going to drag them to that conclusion, kicking and screaming if I have to do so, because it has to be done.
TexBetsy @ 69
I’m heartsick, Betsy.
My entire family understands the evils being done in the name of faith-based people.
Maybe Leahy needs to hear we are paying attention, and we have his back.
I will be calling his office on Tuesday.
Anna Belle @ 71
Lieberman was somewhat eunuch, err unique…I don’t think there are many Democratic incumbents who would get the kind of GOP support Lieberman got.
I think that whole gentlemanly approach is part of Leahy’s makeup, it’s his background, his character to put his trust in a handshake, in someone’s word. It’s the kind of thing I really admire about him - integrity - and it pains me that it may also be a weakness when dealing with rethug sharks.
I suppose many are just getting weary of unaffordable health care, crumbling schools, bridges, and highways, polluted air, and water, erosion of liberties and privacy, greed and corruption, loss of jobs, huge debt, forclosures, war, triangulation and out right lies, politicians not doing their jobs, feelings of powerlessness and a host of other things.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 39
The Lieberman-HRC-DLC nexus is the heart and mind of the (D) party, though of course they have no soul.
The Progressive, Labor, Enivronmental, Anti-war ‘wing’ is actually more like a long vestigial tail that gets dragged through the mud and stepped on.
A better world is possible, people of conscience have to break their codependence on the (D)’s who are now clearly complicit in allowing Bush/Cheney’s next war, on Iran, to proceed.
The procedural nuances of each sellout and capitulation are fascinating, no doubt, but look at the pattern that is clearly emergent and it has to be that they are, perhaps ineptly, doing what they want to be doing, and not doing anything to really end the war, restore the Constitution, or bring the criminals to Justice.
Remember the travesty of the Padilla verdict, indeed his entire experience? what has any (D) said in defense of the rule of law as it should apply to an American citizen, snatched at O’Hare airport?
Poor Harvey Milk…had DiFi pegged from the get-go….He knew she was a crook and loser. She puffs up during hearings but when it comes to crunch time on important issues, she is a loser, hopefully her tired lame self will retire and not run again.
Anna Belle @ 71
Lieberman’s a special case — just as when he was elected to the Senate the first time, he won last year on the strength of the RNC’s full backing. There was an official Republican in the race, but he got bupkis for support once Lamont beat Rape Gurney Joe in the primary.
The Republicans want and need Lieberman around for the same reason that they want certain cherry-picked Democrats to appear constantly on FOX News: As a means to shiv the other side.
Right about now, I’d like to see a Harry Truman type screaming his or her head off about what’s being done to this nation and the world.
Thanks, Christie, I needed that.
We need to keep our eye on the prize.
OldCoastie @ 9
It could be worse. You could be in Hesperia.
rwcole @ 73
I imagine an honest IRS audit of her would be most interesting.
bg @ 76
Works for me!
I’d also like to see all the women’s groups that DiFi is allegedly friends with give her an earful.
Does anyone for a moment think that Rove, Cheney, Bush and most of the rest of the GOP are gentle persons?
Bottom line: Specter played Leahy like a badly tuned fiddle
Overall, I’m pretty darned happy with Sen. Leahy.
However, I do wonder why he didn’t come out with a statement such as:
“This “delay” being loudly decried was a result of an agreement with my good friend, the distinguished Senator from Pennsylvania, Arlen Specter. That’s A-R-L-E-N S-P-E-C-T-E-R, whose address is: 711 Hart Building, Washington, DC 20510, and whose phone number is: 202-224-4254. And for the record, the Senate Judiciary Committee, before the request for delay was made by my friend, was indeed ready for an immediate vote on the nomination of Judge Southwick. Thank you.”
OK - how the FUCK do you get “played” by Arlen Specter???
jayt @ 89
And the media would cover it?
rwcole @ 73
No, DiFi is a real idiot, and this sort of “courting” appeals to her.
BTW, the only reason she ever registered as a Dem was because to register as a Republican was (and is) a death sentence in San Francisco politics. But she’s Republican, through and through.
And the media would cover it?
Always with the details, aren’t ya? *g*
Christy Hardin Smith @ 57
Yep. I fully agree. I have to admit, the R team understands how to WIN. They don’t care about the honesty or cohesion of their policies. For them, it’s all about WINNING.
The D team needs to wake up. And also, the D team needs to realize that you can still be a “good soul” and all, even while you take your boot and crush the hand of the opponent. It’s all about winning. And in winning, sharp tactics and “hardball” rule the playing field.
To borrow from the old, worn-out movie: my beloved D teamers need The Eye Of The Tiger.
Ghostman
Ghostman — you are gonna love my next piece. *G*
Oklahoma kiddo @ 80
Yep. And, every day now I get up to scan the headlines (before heading off to the hospital and the nursing home to look after my intractably addled parents). Nope, we’ve not yet attacked Iran. But, Bu’ush is certanly crazy enough to order it.
Trying to keep the faith here, but likening criticism of the Democratic leadership to a “circular firing squad” assumes that we sit in the same circle as them. I think they sit in the same circle as the GOP leadership and it’s not a firing squad, it’s a jerk.
OK, I’m frustrated at the sheer number of outright crimes that these people have gotten away with. War crimes especially.
While we’re calling up Leahy and asking Feinstein why she only listens to rich people and smooth-talking bastards who think of her with even more contempt than we do, we might also want to mention that starting a war with Iran would be a really, really, REALLY bad move.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 5
Just because you are observant enough to see your hope and trust crushed doesn’t make you paranoid….
Christy Hardin Smith @ 95
Oh cool! I best run now to the grocery store and grab a can of coffee. “Ghostly Manor” is barren of java this A.M. Back in a jiff.
Ghostman
Starting a war with Iran would be a boneheaded move of the worst order. Allowing em to develop nukes would ALSO be criminally stupid..
I’m all for threatening em an brigin em an so on- I see no added security for the world with a nuclear armed Iran- but no fuckin bombs!
Actual governing is boring. Besides, all they want is the power. They can outsource the actual governing to unaccountable crony corporations.
Ghostman @ 94
The real world consequences of seating Judge Leslie Southwick on the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals should be mentioned. More executions. More working people, poor people, and minorities receiving no justice. More corporate welfare with no accountability.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 80
OK, an excellent summation of Amerika today!
R team knows how to win?
Well they seem to have lost their touch.
Let’s see how much winning they do if dems control the whole govt.
rwcole @ 102
Well, we got exactly the right guy in place to make such a move.
DiFi’s a big fan of capital punishment
Speaking of Iran ….
rwcole @ 107
So are most Americans, and most people in the rest of the world. But in the rest of the CIVILIZED world human rights trumps the desire for revenge.
Look folks, DiFi is NOT one of the good guys. She is a war profiteer and a pro-richie rich rather than pro-regular people. There is only one answer here: primary DiFi. There must be an honest and solid attempt to remove her. Her record speaks volumes and this latest nonsense can be used very nicely against her. The old dog “leaders” of the Dems in the Senate MUST be primaried and challenged. They are NOT owed their seats. They do NOT own them, WE do.
That said, show of hands…who is going to jump back in line and vote for DiFi again when the time comes?
Thought so.
iHeartFoulMouthedFemBloggers @ 107
That would be the guy who is dissing the GAO report on Iraq and the nuclear experts who say that Iran’s nuclear program is, thus far, being used for peaceful purposes and could be easily monitored, right?
Whew. So it’s dirty manipulation I can be disappointed over and not bribery or secret threats to cry over. Imagine if congress could call for the phone records (granted to the WH ad lib) of every Senator the past 6 years and just go at it once and for all. The Dems are in a game where the deck is stacked, the Repugs can cheat and change the rules, and the Dems are still totally in the dark. Great.
Outstanding post.
ken melvin @ 29
According to Digby (here), DiFi and Chuck Schumer have been negotiating with the White House for a suspension/dropping of the investigations into the firings of the US Attorneys, if the White House will put up a “consensus nominee” for Attorney General. Who the hell are they working for?
Ack! This is not good news.
Obama Winning “Hearts And Wallets” Of Corporate Republicans
Oklahoma kiddo @ 89
No, but all three of them would quiver in fear if alone in a room with a man………………w/o secret service etc. And I’m not talking Larry Craig bathroom stuff - I would love to spend an afternoon having a personal “discussion” with each of them, one after the other - somebody else could empty the garbage after I left the room. Everyone of them avoided military service and today is too frightened to be with people who haven’t been pre-screened (and in Cheney’s case even shoot their friends in a moment of panic or drunken confusion).
wigwam @ 113
Thems that pay the bills and not thems that vote the votes.
No clue? Respectfully - the dems did not take any stand on nor challenge the lies about 9/11 - IT WAS AN INSIDE JOB!
Does anyone really believe that we are going to see “leadership” from a political party that continues to ignore the growing number of Americans that want to know the truth about 9/11?
These same politicians jumped on the political bandwagon, supported a half-hearted investigation, and then continue to use the lies to instill fear in America and support the military industrial complex.
TexBetsy @ 109
Speaking of speaking of Iran, the Newshoggers blog has an item up on how the new “war product” is already getting its supporting advertising in the UK. Various mouthpieces for the neocons and war-all-the-time clowns have started them push. It will cross the pond post-Labor Day and ratchet up here. Expect Cheney to quote from the UK and, by then, US news “sources” (that he fed) as credible, just like he did with Iraq.
The push is on.
supine, devoid of principle national (D)’s allowing Cheney/Bush to start a war with Iran could drastically change the 2008 electoral chemistry that they are so complacent about today.
so, wrong on a pragmatic, as well as moral, strategic, and legal basis, to be complicit in another aggressive war.
Anyone with a national audience who speaks with clarity and conviction on this issue will become a leader, no need to wait to the bought-off Leadership to allow it.
Anyone who pretends to have a shred of principle and morality (for example, Sen Obama) who does not condemn the looming criminal disaster of a war against another country that poses no threat to the USA forfeits any such claim to morality, and is worthy of opposition, not support.
what devious parliamentary maneuvers tricked all the Senate (D)’s into supporting Liebermans motion lending institutional support to war against Iran?
snowbird42 @ 43
Katie Couric is a Neocon -facelift, bleached teeth, short-legged version. What else did you think she’d do? THis is where her head has been at for a long time. Remember how she re-swift-boated Kerry during the election, nasty pure and simple.
Some say it’s all about winning. Some argue it’s all about principle. And some say it’s all about burying the GOP.
New thread. Don’t rush. Some of us have already nailed the zed. Twice.
TexBetsy @ 115
My view is that he would be much better than Hillary, though I would prefer Edwards by far.
TexBetsy @ 109
Check out the Daily Kos post on the subject - over 1000 commentators. Truly scary.
A year or two ago, we were calling Feinstein the Lieberman of the West. I think this falls under this category.
As for Leahy, he has held some good hearings but has been incredibly slow to hold those who lied at them to account. I am also reminded of how Leahy voted for Roberts because he wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt. And although he voted against Alito, he certainly did not lead the filibuster fight.
I think the real story behind Southwick is that none of them really cared. This was not about legal principle or even Southwick. For the Senators involved, it was just a parliamentary game. No blood spilt. To us it may be that a really unqualified and fairly reprehensible person becomes a federal judge with a lifetime appointment and with power to do harm to many Americans, but to the Senators it’s just a run scored on a bunt in a good-natured game of Senatorial baseball.
It has all happened many times before. What is a scary thought is that it will happen many times again. Feinstein will casually sell out her side or do some dopey other thing. Leahy will be affable and no one will quite understand why he did what he did. The Republicans will sneak and conspire. The Democrats will never see it coming, again. And life will go on as it always has in the Senate.
I’m not sure what you’re trying to say here. Your description of DiFi seems sexist and misogynistic, as if she was an air-headed piece of fluff like Miss Teen South Carolina.
Neither Pat Leahy or DiFi have a reputation for being stupid, and both have been in the Senate long enough to know what they are doing. I doubt she was “charmed” into changing her vote like some hootchie getting sweet-talked out of her panties.
The left (of which I am proud to be a member) has criticized the partisan polarization of politics for years. Yet we get more upset when Senators make deals and compromises.
Is it possible that DiFi made a deal that let the Southwick nomination out of committee in exchange for GOP votes on something she (and her constituents) want? That’s how Congress always worked.
Southwick still faces an upperdown vote by the whole Senate. I’d like to see more of those and less use of procedural moves to prevent bills and nominees from ever coming to the floor.
Fresh thread, up and running for everyone.
You get one name on this blog — no switching names back and forth. Do that, and you get yer butt banned. Am I clear on that? No name changing to bolster or sockpuppet yourself. Period.
OT - and very scary. Apparently the Carlyle group is taking over Clear Channel radio (home to what ever progressive stations are out there). San Diego’s progressive station is now in jeopardy. It was bad enough under the new ownership of Romney’s company Bain (which shut down Air America in Boston and many other places, but the Carlyle Group is all about Cheney and the other thugs who have taken over this country.
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5013
No sexism involved — DiFi happens to be a woman, but she’s as susceptible to ego-driven considerations as any number of other Senators (Lieberman leaps to mind, and we criticize him for the same rationale). Don’t read your own perceptions into the story — the problems in this were of leadership, not of boobies.
If there is really a progressive political movement- then it should be devoting itself to finding a DiFi replacement NOW and grooming that person. Ya don’t just go recruit a US senate candidate with zero name recognition at the last minute and ride to victory..
Here are the issues as I see em..
California is one of the most expensive states in the nation in which to run a senate campaign..
Name recognition trounces everything in this state- look at Arnie
California is dem– but not lefy dem- it’s got a huge defense industry component and a huge labor vote- the labor vote is far from radical.
The dems are fresh out of faces- as their two pissant gubenatorial candidates show.
It will take every one of the five years available to find and groom the DiFi replacement. Start NOW.
Clear Channel is actually the host of Rush Libaugh and many other shit provoking conservative talk shows.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 130
Uh, but my nom de guerre (fully, explicitly traceable to my real self) is just an expression of admiration for FDL. Can I no longer use it?
bobbyg — I know that’s you. You weren’t trying to sockpuppet your own comments — and weren’t the target of that particular warning. Although we do prefer that folks keep a single name, for consistency’s sake — it’s much easier on the moderators backstage.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 136
No, I would never play any sockpuppet games. Just using the name as a goofy show of support for y’all (folks have dug it). I’ll switch back. That’s a long one to enter anyway.
ken melvin @ 29
Would you happen to know where she was out standing when the FISA vote was held? Waiting for a bus? God knows; if her staff does too, they’re not telling.
iHeartFoulMouthedFemBloggers @ 136
I was at a site (that shall remain nameless) yesterday that was infested with sockpuppets.
myiq2xu @ 128
You know this is wrong for so many reasons. It is not sexist to call Feinstein a dope, disorganized, egotistical, or conservative because she is all of those things just like Joe Lieberman is.
As for DiFi not having a rep for being stupid, I can only assume you have not been paying attention. She more or less fell into the position of Senator through a series of happy and not so happy coincidences and has (mostly through inertia) managed to keep her place there.
“The left (of which I am proud to be a member) has criticized the partisan polarization of politics for years.” Actually, the left which you rather doubtfully claim to be a member has been saying for years that Democrats need to start acting more partisan not less. The Republicans have been doing it for years and the failure of Democrats to follow suit has resulted in them holding a bag with nothing in it (as in this episode).
As for a call for up or down votes, go tell that one to the Republicans and Mitch McConnell who have been filibustering everything in sight. Or do you mean up or down votes only when Joseph Lieberman votes with the Republicans?
If Feinstein and Schumer are negotiating with the WH re halting the DOJ investigations, I would hope that they would not agree to halt the investigations in exchange for a consensus AG nominee. The bargaining should also include a package of reform legislation to correct the problems uncovered to date.
I would like to think that some of the boneheaded moves that our Dems make are because we don’t know the behind the scenes deals that are made. At least I hope that there are behind the scenes deals being made that will make sense out of some of the questionable actions.
I prefer Boxer to Feinstein but I think she got on the Lam firing right away and that ultimately led to Gonzo being gone. And Feinsein has lost some of her apparent innocence on the matter of Iraq. And I suspect that her staffers are much more sympathetic to our issues that the staffers of someone like Lott. So she needs to hear from us but I am not ready to declare her Lieberman-Lite.
Both Leahy and Feinstein don’t have the ability to strike and strike hard when needed. All I know is that Leahy, like Specter, never fails to talk about his being a one time prosecutor. Leahy does not appear to be ready to get into a fight. Specter never seems to be able to say something in a straight forward manner. These two men get so involved in convoluted arguments that they forget to get the job done. Admittedly not easy given the very narrow room for manoeuve that the numbers indicate. On Feinstein: sometimes being a Senator whose ego can be stroked is a problem.
Generally the Senate has been a very great disappointment. They believe in their own myth: we are the world’s greatest deliberative body. Comes out of meeting too many Third World leaders who treat them like travelling panjandrums.
Hugh @ 139
I’ve been watching Dianne Feinstein since she was mayor of San Francisco. She didn’t fall into anything. She became Mayor of SF when Dan White murdered her predecessor. She ran against an incumbent GOP Senator that Pete Wilson had appointed to fill his position when he defeated Feinstein to become Governor.
She has always been moderate to conservative, especially on fiscal and military issues.
My point is that she is not stupid and her decision to change her vote was likely something other than simply being schmoozed by “southern charm.”
As for Dems needing to me more partisan like the GOP, I hope that never happens. We criticize them for voting party line withoutr regard to anything else, then demand our own people do the same.
Someone has to put an end to the madness. Blessed are the peacemakers.
The Rethugs are blackmailing Feinstein with the threat of an open investigation into her improper funneling of defense funds to her defense contractor husband’s company. I’m convinced of it. She has made a slew of surprisingly right wing votes since quietly giving up her seat on that defense subcommitte early this year. And the lapdog media has been silent about that resignation and the scandal as well, amazing as it is that they would go easy on a Dem caught with her hand in the cookie jar. This is the most plausible explanation for her behavior on this issue, as well as several others, like FISA.
We, by which I mean the intrepid writers here at FDL, should get the facts on that scandal and publish them completely and vigorously on this website. If we out this double agent ourselves, she can no longer be blackmailed and may once again start voting like a Democrat.
Anybody second the motion?
Wow, Christy, thanks for this.
This sounds very like what seems to have happened with the FISA vote in the Senate on August 3rd. DNI Mike McConnell was in Cheney’s Senate office during the hour-long debate, and Dianne Feinstein went in to meet with him, and apparently they managed to reassure her and sweet-talk her into passing the White House bill (despite strong condemnations of it from the likes of Feingold); a White House bill which someone had been ‘briefing’ her on all afternoon, although she meanwhile admittedly didn’t understand the details and provisions of the alternative, Fourth Amendment-based Democratic FISA bill (which somehow she’d only seen for the first time 20 minutes before the debate started…). She also rebutted Feingold on the floor with something McConnell had just told her off the floor, which clearly did not address Feingold’s concern (about an independent check on these spying powers from outside the Executive Branch).
I got the distinct impression that Dianne Feinstein likes to run with the “big boys” as she sees them (DNI McConnell and his IC power behind the throne, in this case), and loves playing the game of being ‘respectfully’ and solicitously wooed by the power players for her vote.
Bottom line, under Harry Reid’s “leadership,” the GOP gets to control the schedule in the Senate when it really matters to them, and therefore has the time to twist arms and arrange votes at the most opportune times for their (Executive Branch) agenda despite their minority status. If Reid had delayed the FISA vote, even by a day or two, those (like Whitehouse) who had been working the “graveyard shift” to remedy the situation would have had the time to hold Feinstein’s hand and convince her of the merits of the Democratic bill they had crafted under great pressure in response to a GOP-imposed timeline. But instead, the timing played solely to the benefit of the Republicans, with the Democratic leadership’s assistance.
P.S. All it takes is ONE Senator to place a hold on Southwick, and 40 of his or her colleagues to sustain the filibuster, for this nomination to yet fail on the Senate floor…
> I don’t know how one buys a 74 year old multimillionaire
In DiFi’s case, as in so many others, power and status are the carrots. In the Senate this has been traditionally done with “logrolling”, in which your nominal opponents promise to amplify your power on issues that you publicly own in return for your vote on their issues. Difi’s been in the Senate for a long time, and remembers when these “comity” relationships actually worked.
I despair to note that DiFi and Lieberman and Broder have not yet noticed that comity began to disintegrate with Gingrich and went completely out the window with W43’s election in 2000. They keep playing the game, even though the other side has jerked away the gameboard, arrogated to itself all the Chance and Community Chest card, and rifles the bank whenever the Dems back is turned.
Right before the congressional recess, Schumer said that they were halting confirmation on judges…I wonder what has changed.
myiq2xu @ 143
Look if Dan White had not shot Mayor Moscone and Harvey Milk, Feinstein’s political career would have gone nowhere. Instead she was able to parlay this into a successful Senate run (without anyone looking to hard at her views) and the rest is history and inertia.
The fatal flaw in the bipartisnship argument nowadays is that you have to have a partner on the other side. The Republicans even at this late date continue to vote in lockstep with Bush on Iraq and almost all important issues. The one exception was immigration where, golly gee whiz, didn’t the Republicans torpedo an attempted bipartisan deal between the White House and Democrats.
The only bipartisanship we have now is the Joe Lieberman variety where he votes with Republicans and backstabs Democrats, the kind where Republicans will compromise with Democrats to the extent that they will allow Democrats to vote with Republicans for what Republicans want. No thank you.
Riesz Fischer @ 70
Sorry, had stepped out for a bit.
I’m referring to the account you conveyed from sources on the Hill about the alleged behavior of Feinstein throughout. Read it through carefully. The pattern being drawn is one of a stereotype, rather than of the person in question. Only a sexist could accept such a yarn. I’m not suggesting you’re a sexist, but consider carefully the assumptions taken to believe it all. It reflects a prejudice in your sources that may be coloring the story and implies that their information may be faulty or short on facts.
alank @ 148
If someone like Jim Webb switched his vote, would the story describe him as having been won over by “flattery” and “Southern charm?”
P.s., was watching the Williams/Bartoli match. Was rooting for the latter. Alas.
old gold @ 18
This is the absolute truth. DiFi is a rich, well-connected mediocrity who is merely representing her class not the people. Arrogant, married to the MI complex, owns multiple houses and has successfully hoodwinked her constituents with the ‘I am Woman’ camouflage for far too long.
She needs to go, badly. And no….
That’s not a Larry Craig pun.
alank:
I can see the sexist angle from the standpoint that Feistein could be “charmed” by the southern gentlemen. I’m not buying that for a second. Someone with the contacts and resources should dig a little deeper into this behavior by Senator Feinstein.
One another point raised upthread: I agree that the democratic leadership doesn’t understand that a fight is going on. Not just with the opposition party, but with the media as well. Unfortunately, with the slim to nonexistent majority in the Senate, not much can be accomplished. If the dems pick up 8 to 10 seats in the upcoming election, and don’t act forcefully, I’ll have given up on the party.
Leahy needs to turn on Specter. Period.
OK, toby martin, ask and Ye Shall Receive!
Mertoactive published an expose on DiFi’s shenanigans in their January 24-30, 2007 edition.
the headline “Senator Feinstein’s Iraq Conflict” describes the corruption as follows:
“…As chairperson and ranking member of the Military Construction Appropriations subcommittee (MILCON) from 2001 through the end of 2005, Feinstein supervised the appropriation of billions of dollars a year for specific military construction projects. Two defense contractors whose interests were largely controlled by her husband, financier Richard C. Blum, benefited from decisions made by Feinstein as leader of this powerful subcommittee……From 2001 to 2005, URS earned $792 million from military construction and environmental cleanup projects approved by MILCON; Perini earned $759 million from such MILCON projects…..The tale thickens with the appearance of Michael R. Klein, a top legal adviser to Feinstein and a long-time business partner of Blum’s. The vice-chairman of Perini’s board of directors, Klein was a partner in Wilmer, Cutler & Pickering, a powerful law firm with close ties to the Democratic Party, for nearly 30 years. Klein and Blum co-own ASTAR Air Cargo, which has military contracts in Iraq and at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. Klein also sits on the board of SRA International, a large defense contractor.
In an interview with this reporter in September, Klein stated that, beginning in 1997, he routinely informed Feinstein about specific federal projects coming before her in which Perini had a stake. The insider information, Klein said, was intended to help the senator avoid conflicts of interest. Although Klein’s startling admission was intended to defuse the issue of Feinstein’s conflict of interest, it had the effect of exacerbating it.
Klein said that he regularly gave Feinstein’s chief of staff, Mark Kadesh, lists of Perini’s current and upcoming contractual interests in federal legislation, so that the senator would not discuss, debate, vote on or participate in matters that could affect projects in which Perini was concerned. “Earmarks, you know, set asides, you name it, there was a system in place which on a regular basis I got notified, I notified her office and her office notified her,” Klein said.
“We basically identified any bid that Perini was going for and checked to see whether it was the subject of already appropriated funds or funds yet to be appropriated, and if it was anything that the senator could not act on, her office was alerted and she did not act on it.”
This is an extraordinary thing for Klein and the senator to do, since the detailed project proposals that the Pentagon sent to Feinstein’s subcommittee for review do not usually name the firms already contracted to perform specific projects. Nor do defense officials typically identify, in MILCON hearings, which military construction contractors are eligible to bid on upcoming work.
In theory, Feinstein would not know the identity of any of the companies that stood to contractually benefit from her approval of specific items in the military construction budget–until Klein told her.
Klein explained, “They would get from me a notice that Perini was bidding on a contract that would be affected as we understood it by potential legislation that would come before either the full congress or any committee that she was a member of. And she would as a result of that not act, abstain from dealing with those pieces of legislation.”
However, the public record shows that contrary to Klein’s belief, Feinstein did act on legislation that affected Perini and URS. …Senate Select Committee on Ethics ruled, in secret, that Feinstein did not have a conflict of interest with Perini because, due to the existence of the bid and project lists provided by Klein, she knew when to recuse herself. Klein says that after URS declined to participate in his conflict-of-interest prevention plan, the ethics committee ruled that Feinstein could act on matters that affected URS because she did not have a list of URS’ needs. That these confidential rulings are contradictory is obvious and calls for explanation.
Klein declined to produce copies of the Perini project lists that he transmitted to Feinstein. And neither he nor Feinstein would furnish copies of the ethics committee rulings, nor examples of the senator recusing herself from acting on legislation that affected Perini or URS. But the Congressional Record shows that as chairperson and ranking member of MILCON, Feinstein was often involved in supervising the legislative details of military construction projects that directly affected Blum’s defense-contracting firms.
After reviewing the results of this investigation, Wendell Rawls, executive director of the Center for Public Integrity in Washington, D.C., observes that by giving Feinstein notice of Perini’s business objectives, Klein achieved the opposite of preventing a conflict of interest. …” Blum sold his interest in the two companies sometime in 2005.
The article goes on to compare Di’s conflict of interest as analgous to the Cheny-Haliburton scandal and proceeds to list specific actions Di took to promote her husband’s companies. Read the whole thing; I think she’s dirty as Cunningham.
I think we have to get her off that committee like yesterday, because we are going to end up with another John Yoo as AG if she gets to vote.
What do you think?
I apologize if I quoted too much, and I sure hope the link works. I’ve never done this before. I’ve been lurking for years, but this is the first time I felt I could contribute anything. You guys are terrific!
Alecia @ 146
This appears to contradict the story that Harry Reid came to an agreement with the WH that in exchange for no recess appointments the Dems would allow GW’s judicial nominees through. Another blunder in my view.
Joe Klein’s conscience @ 11
Evidently not. However, Specter himself can occasionally be pressured to uphold the Constitution in the face of Administration hostility. You can leave comments at:
http://specter.senate.gov/publ.....ontactForm
No doubt his staffers skim it all and sort it into “pro” and “con” on any given issue. Still, in ol’ Arlen’s case, I’m sure somebody’s counting. He’s just too aware of the political winds.
So let’s give his staffers an eyeful. Whaddya say?
You sure you don’t got that backwards, Christy? Pat Leahy turned on the charm and flattered Di into going along with the gang; Arlen Specter made an 11th hour appeal to Diane’s values and inspired her to do the right thing for the People Who Matter.
Street Smart @ 154 -
great link, thanks!
less lurking, more commenting please… *g*
An afterthought about Harry Reid’s methods, that ties into this comment from yesterday’s All Fall Down thread:
I think Clamberite may well be on to something. Assuming that Harry Reid is not in fact completely corrupt, this approach would comport with the eager (though Constitution-hostile) deference to, and the internalizing of the Cheney theory of, an end-all, be-all Executive Branch by the Democratic leadership of this Congress. I do think that Harry Reid and Dick Durbin may well see their jobs to a large degree to be to facilitate (at all costs…) the election of a Democratic president next year. In other words, their political party is what they serve (and to some extent the Executive Branch), not their own Legislative Branch of government, nor our Constitution and the people whose rights it was intended to preserve. [Behavior which on its own is certainly “corrupt” to some significant degree, at least by my standards.]
In addition, though, I see Harry Reid as a “leader” who has no agenda of his own, beyond the “comity” of his caucus and the Senate as a whole. So I assume, from outside observation, that Harry Reid is swayed by the strongest voice raised in his presence - and that he chooses to pursue the agenda most forcefully presented to him, in a blind effort to ‘keep the peace’ no matter what. And this effort extends not only to the Democratic caucus (where the presidential candidates and their concerns could be carefully catered to), but to the Senate as a whole including especially the Republican leader’s opinions, and, significantly, to the White House and their concerns (as often expressed through the Republican leader in the Senate) as well. This aligns, for example, with Reid’s instructions to his caucus (as spoken on the floor) to consult and cooperate with Republicans on legislation in committee, which he ordered with regard to the Energy Bill before he would bring it to the floor. Meaning, I assume, that if Republicans were to howl to Reid that they didn’t get their way in committee on the Energy Bill, Reid would send it back for ‘more work.’ What kind of “Democratic,” “majority,” or even “leadership” behavior is that? Especially against an absolutely ruthless, bad faith Republican opposition.
The upshot is really a leaderless Democratic caucus, where the squeaky wheel gets the grease, and the least community-minded but most self-assertive types often hold sway over Reid and therefore the Senate agenda (even, or perhaps especially, when they are Republican types). And of course, that leads to a situation where those like Feingold who threaten to ‘rock the boat’ by standing on principle, rather than politics, scare Reid witless, and to whom he will only pay attention if they demand as loudly as the Lieberman types that their wishes be fulfilled. And in the end, the Russ Feingolds and the Sheldon Whitehouses just don’t scare Harry Reid the way the Dick Cheneys and the Mike (and Mitch) McConnells do - and so they (and we) lose out to the bullies and authoritarians without conscience.
Harry Reid won’t be capable of firmly opposing this White House, until he decides to firmly oppose the (I trust) minority of loud unprincipled voices inside his own caucus, and to ignore the unceasing criticism from ‘the other side of the aisle’ in the Senate. That, however, would take moral authority and principled resolve from someone who obviously hates to publicly ‘make waves’ in the media or inside the Senate chamber.
Talk about a recipe for disaster in this age of a ruthless organized criminal “political party” like today’s Republicans - and yet that dynamic or something similar is enabling, and helping to avoid blocking, the horrifying results that we see playing out in front of us every day.
P.S. Jim Hightower is an untapped gold mine for the Democratic Party. If they wanted messaging that would demolish the Republican spin in the media, Hightower’s ability with words, his proven skill at explaining detailed matters in a clear, cutting and memorable fashion, and his rock-solid principles would absolutely stun and transform the staid, stale Washington, D.C. world of spin. When Hightower is consulted by the national Democrats, we’ll know that they are finally getting serious about the well-being of this nation.
alank — You are making assumptions about my sources which are inaccurate — there was ample diversity of both gender and experience with the parties involved, and a long history of patterns of behavior that came forward — once again — as documented above. If you think this is a one-off situation, think again. And if you think I’d write a single article on a single incident without looking into some considerable history, you’d be wrong.
It’s nice to go for the surface explanation, but it is both inaccurate and too easily excused. This has nothing to do with gender, and everything to do with ego — and is equally applicable as a cautionary tale regardless of gender. Raising sexism in this context is an enormous red herring that obscures the larger point of leadership failures and substantial issues of a “me” attitude versus what really need with more of an “us” mentality. This wasn’t an isolated behavioral pattern…not by a long shot.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 5
Face it. The Democrats are lost in space and time. Even senior leaders like Leahy and Feinstein (who has never been as smart as she thinks she is or as liberal as her supporters suppose) can’t bring themselves to act on principle. They only talk about it.
The party deserved to lose its majority. It will continue to deserve losing it until the leadership learns to parry the new rules the G.O.P. invented. I don’t want Dems to be dirty or ape despicable Repub tactics; I just want them to show spine and act directly and decisively on the principles they espouse an for which they solicit our funds and votes.
As for Feinstein, she needs to be replaced by someone who IS as authentic as Feinstein thinks she looks.
Christy re 160:
Considering the discussion above, I think there is a possibility which involves no bad faith on the part of you or your sources. Remember that one of Rove’s favorite tricks is the dissemination of rumors. He used to spread rumors about his opponents through a law school in Texas, and they would pop up all over the state. None of the people he slimed could ever trace it back, remember?
If the GOP is blackmailing DiFi with a corruption investigation and uproar through the Mighty Wurlitzer, they would have to come up with a cover story when the DFH started getting excited. Perhaps someone very chauvinistic came up with this as a cover story and saw that it was rumored far and wide on Capital Hill, knowing that someone would post it on a blog. It gets to you, it gets distributed, no problem. DiFi’s not running again, she doesn’t have to care what is said in Left Blogistan. She just has to keep her mouth shut, vote as she’s told, and exit to a graceful retirement, dishonor averted.
This would be just the kind of cover story the GOP would come up with. Not only does it reflect their own prejudices, but it may reach people who are predisposed to accept the line that women are too vain and egotistical to be trusted in higher office. (Hillary’s “fatal flaw?)
If I am correct, DiFi is a boil we must pop.
Or maybe I should just loosen the tin foil hat.
Twisted Martini @ 15
God isn’t that it in a nutshell? Not for the ‘roots but for our “leaders?”
Jeebus…
I can’t stand the rethugs but one thing they’ve got right is they have leadership that listens to them. I’m not asking for lockstep but how about a little representation?
Street Smart @ 162
Agreed, that there is another angle being missed by misconstruing Difi’s motives or sensibilities via whatever the ultimate source of the meme was.
Christy:
You can’t see the forest for the 5 trees. This sexist angle is the red herring, not my pointing it out.
I dont believe that ( as I quickly scanned this) that that has truly happened, who are we to decide? Let them do thier jobs, or force them as I say…
Oklahoma kiddo @ 64
Most of the Blue Dogs are in states where Republicans frequently win state-wide offices. Whether they fear taking more Progressive positions or are really Conservatives isn’t always clear.
Democrats who stand out as being different, as the Blue Dogs do, are really the odd-balls, the 3rd party. Some of them may even be Republican plants.
It’s assumed Dems will win a lot of seats in Congress this time, so it might be safe to assume some of the Blue Dogs are really Republicans in sheep’s clothing.
Given that, we can take their votes to organize the majority, but we should look at them askance and not ever count on them…for anything. Remember how they’ve tried to piss away the Constitution with the FISA vote? Did any of them vote to allow torture? How many in the Senate voted for the AUMF which more-or-less authorized the war in Iraq?
We have some good Dems in Congress, but not nearly the majority we deserve. The American people know who butters their bread when it comes to governance, we just have to win elections better and try to get better Progressive candidates into office instead of letting business always win by putting more money into Republican or Blue Dog campaigns.
We may be trying hard for Edwards or one of the other Progressive Dems, but we should really work hard to get more Progressive Dem legislators in Congress. That’s the purse strings and the legislative force.
Glorfindel @ 153
Don’t blame the Repubs for acting like snakes. That’s what they do.
Ask DiFi why she changed her vote?
Hey Street Smart, you rock. Thanks much for your Comment #154, and the light it sheds on the blackmail scenario. I will read the full Metroactive article, and see if it leads to anything further. On a personal note, if you are this aware, it’s a shirk to just lurk, my friend.
Christy, my dear, won’t you please do the same re the Metroactive article? The best antidote for the possible blackmail scenario is to out all the secrets, loudly and aggressively.
Street Smart, I think you hit the mother lode (Comment#154). I just read the Metroactive article you cited. An independent public integrity group that examined the matter said her conflicts of interest were “irrefutable.” Two of her husband’s companies were virtual non-entities in military contracting matters within the jurisdiction of her subcommittee, before she ascended to the chairmanship, then they became major players during the few years of her tenure. And there’s much more, including the fact that there was a “secret” Sennate ethics ruling on the matter. Boy, would I love to read that one! This article should be read by anyone interested in understanding her recent voting behavior. Just Google “Metroactive January, 2007 articles.”
Street Smart, you went from lurker to hero in one giant step.
Christy, I sure hope you are getting this.
If Leahy had any balls, he’d put an immediate hold on Southwick’s nomination, a hold that would last until Bush leaves office.
But then, he probably won’t.
I seem to remember Bush cutting a deal with Democrats in the Senate, a deal stating that Bush wouldn’t make any recess appointments during the August break…if Democrats would let some of his worst nominations be voted on by the full Senate.
When this “deal” is viewed in conjunction with Specter “turning” Feinstein and essentially stabbing Leahy in the back, one can see a concerted strategy being applied to get some of the most corrupt Republicans possible onto the federal bench.
It just boggles the mind that Democrats in Congress don’t grasp exactly what the nature of the evil is that they face, an evil that will haunt our nation long after Bush and Cheney are gone. Just look at Alito and Roberts and all the lies they told to get placed on the Supreme Court.
toby martin, re 169
Note that the article said that DiFi and Klein
claimed
there was a Secret Senate Ethics ruling, but refused to produce it. The ruling, if it exists, came from the GOP dominated ethics committee.
alank, selise, toby martin, Thanks for making me feel so welcome. Sorry to leave the thread for so long, but responsibilities called. I’ll pipe up again.
The article again is Senator Feinstein’s Iraq Conflict and the link is at the beginning of post #154. Good night!
One might also confer Joshua Frank’s 4 April 2007 comment, Senator Feinstein’s War Profiteering: Democratic Blood Money over at CounterPunch.org.
There is more recent speculation that Feinstein is being blackmailed by the White House. The suggestion is they have information via NSA on her. Now there’s an irony, in light of her preferences wrt warrantless wiretaps.
Quite frankly she’s just another Blue/Bush Dog when you look at the entire record from the 2002 go ahead to wage pre-emptive war on Iraq, downward to the present.
Street Smart,I was fully aware of who was running that ethics committee at the time. That’s why I’m so hot to know what it said. I know how these bastards played the game when they held all the cards of power.
I hope to see more input from you in the future. Am I mistaken, or have I seen your handle in the comments on some of the other progressive blogs? If so, or even if not, there’s no reason to ever be shy about piping up here.
Again, kudos to you, friend.