I had to share this with you all as it is so very, very typical of how Republicans and conservatives argue.
I had made a post on my blog on the predictive powers of Al Gore, as noted by Robert Parry of The Consortium. (Parry’s also the main reason we know as much as we do about the Iran-Contra scandal — and that is most likely the reason he, who once was a reporter for Newsweek, no longer has a job in the mainstream GOP/Media Complex. But I digress.)
Charming little Republican disinfo drone Rick G reaches into his old bag of Gore quotes pulled out of context to smear Al. But he doesn’t realize that, unlike the typical low-information folk and conservative activists with whom he deals, we actually know the truth and the whole truth about the smears he’s pimping — for instance, the full context of certain speeches which he’s selectively edited.
As my co-blogger Charles said, after he disembowelled Rick: “You can lie as much as you like and you will not diminish Al Gore by a millimeter. But you do diminish yourself.”
Yeah, and besides, you run through an awful lot of pants, when they keep catching on fire like this.
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zunoed?
Morning, PW!
top 10?
no WAy!!
I’ll go with Gore.
Good morning, PW. I’ve had my share of arguments with conservatives since moving to Ohio.
The facts are not fair to them. Unfair!
Whoa. Surprised myself.
I’ll go tell t’others.
Good morning Phoenix woman. Excellent post, as usual.
It would be so sweet to see Gore knock the two front-runners out of the park.
“As my co-blogger Charles said, after he disembowelled Rick: “You can lie as much as you like and you will not diminish Al Gore by a millimeter. But you do diminish yourself.” “
What a great way to bring a snake to heel. Just the kind of language assertive Dems ought to be using!
ifthethunderdontgetya @ 6
That’s cuz facts (as well as reality) have a noted librul bias.
EPU’d:
Think Progress:
For the record, Bill Moyers did ask Karl Rove to come on BILL MOYERS JOURNAL, by fax and by mail. These requests were made before Chris Wallace responded on-air on Fox News Sunday to Bill Moyers’ letter, and we still haven’t heard from Karl Rove.
Morning PW!
ifthethunderdontgetya @ 6
And they have a well-known liberal bias!
Mr. Rove indicated shortly before he left the WH, that he was looking forward to going home and shooting little birds to death.
‘morning, everyone! Everybody get their Zs last night and their zeds today?
Looking at the picture, I couldn’t tell if the elephant’s head exploded or his pants were on fire. Either way, it was good. 2008 will be so different from 2000. Many heads will explode and pants set afire.
After seeing the burning Elephant, I had to re-post this: (From Howie Klein-DWT)
WHO’LL BE THE NEXT REPUBLICAN HYPOCRITE TO BE DRAGGED OUT OF THE CLOSET SCREAMING ABOUT MEDIA WITCH HUNTS?
link
And for your morning dining pleasure:
Deer For Breakfast – Yahoo! Video
Republicans lie to smear anyone they don’t like, but they do to Clintons and Gore with particular relish. Which is why it is so outrageous that Bush would say what he did about Gonzo – that his good name has been dragged through the mud. What a scumbag.
Morning PW.
Dandy post. and that graphic may be(IS!) perfect bumper-sticker material. Woo Hoo!
This is a wild weekend for us. We stayed up late last night playing a killer game of dominoes with my parents and sister. Tonight we go to a wedding that will be filled with what I am assuming are religio-fascist freaks from one of the SA holy roller churches.
Lyin gooper buttsuckers are not claimin that US casualties are down since the surge began… Are you suprised that the truth is just the opposie.
Year to date casualties for 07 are up considerably from the same period in 06. The press buys these lies and dutifully prints em without checkin a fuckin thing..Lazy bastards, accomplices to murder!
# Phoenix Woman Says:
August 28th, 2007 at 8:24 pm
Rick’s a Republican, Charles. They are the People of the Lie. They can’t handle the truth, which is why the gay ones don’t go to gay bars, but hang out in airport restrooms where kids could see them.
Beautiful!
Honestly, PW, I can’t even bring myself to go to the ‘dark side’ even to visit – it’s so illogical and aggravating. I know I should. But it’s just so self-defeating. The other day I read some comment on a Brent Budowsky article, taking liberals to task and excoriating them for opposing the war – ‘because Saddam kicked out the inspectors!’
When you start with a lie and build your argument on that foundation, what’s the use in participating in the argument?
Haaretz columnist Danny Rubinstein’s participation in a British Z*onist Federation (ZF) conference in London this weekend was cancelled, by mutual agreement, after Rubenstein was quoted as having described Israel as “an apartheid state” at a UN conference in Brussels.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/S…..e/ShowFull
~~~ModNote: Edited for content to clear filters.~~~
Gnome de Plume @ 21
Plan to wear a “proud to be a liberal” button somewhere on your dress?
Got EPU’d:
TexBetsy @ 215
I don’t watch TV (not for 2 years).
But have a theory about TV having to do with Gore.
IMO, television is the modern-day opium of the masses.
To keep the pipe filled, everyone on TV — from Billy O to Jon Stewart — needs someone with high entertainment value to laud, lambast or lampoon.
Shrub has it.
Hillary has it, despite lacking a sense of humor.
Edwards doesn’t have it.
Ghoul does…so many things to criticize.
Gore doesn’t have it.
Steve-AR @ 17
Oh, my.
I figured that the murder-murder-suicide had to be a love affair gone wrong — if only from the walking-on-eggshells treatment the national media’s given it so far — but didn’t realize that Patrick McHenry, that manly man who has young Republican boys sleep over at his place all the time, was connected somehow.
Apropos lies: More on the horizon re: Iran and we have GOT to galvanize to stop another war.
“Facts are stupid things” — Ronald Reagan
TexBetsy @ 26
You know, somehow I don’t have to. My aura, hair, clothing, lack of makeup, something screams, “Stay away! She’s a witch with a powerful spell.” It should be very interesting as it is the wedding of one of my daughter’s best friends from childhood. Somewhere along the road the two took very different forks and traveled separate paths, but sort of kept in touch. A lot of it had to do with the bride being homeschooled and falling in with that crowd. My poor daughter turns out not to have fallen too far from the tree. Her innate sense of snark would delight you.
Gnome, can’t wait to meet your daughter and have you meet the rest of my family.
Weirdest thing. 44 red-tailed hawks traveling/hunting together…
Oklahoma kiddo @ 25
They may have cancelled Rubenstein, but they didn’t denounce him as self-hating and/or antis*mitic. That’s progress.
Phoenix Woman @ 29
If you read Howie at all, you’ll know that McHenry isn’t the only one that has problems. In fact, Craig is only the tip of the iceberg in the Senate.
Loo Hoo. @ 34
That would be the Senate Republican Caucus, right?
Betsy, how can we do that? We are both so crazy busy. Got any ideas? We can do another Sunday at the island, possibly, since daughter’s BF is off working in LA for two months. Not that she is at loose ends. Actually, he is even funnier than she is in a very quiet way. They make quite the pair.
Laura Doty @ 30
I want a bumper sticker that says
… or some variant of such a thing.
2 months. hmmm. thanksgiving weekend?
Phoenix Woman @ 29
Following PW’s link, I came upon this really cool site.
Gotta run out for a bit. Sister is flying back to Oregon this afternoon and I have to pack an orchid that she will be taking on board. Betsy, I will e-mail you a stunning photo of granddaughter, who looks exactly like daughter as child, even though they are half-niece and aunt.
wigwam @ 39
YES!! HOW TO MAKE IT HAPPEN?
rwcole @ 22
Lyin gooper buttsuckers are not claimin that US casualties are down since the surge began… Are you suprised that the truth is just the opposie.
Year to date casualties for 07 are up considerably from the same period in 06. The press buys these lies and dutifully prints em without checkin a fuckin thing..Lazy bastards, accomplices to murder!
U.S. Soldiers killed in Itaq
August ‘06 – 65
August ‘07 – 81
70 United States soldiers dead in Iraq since Congress went on vacation.
Iraqi civilian casualties are probably double what they were last year, but the goddamm U.S. govt. doesn’t care or even try to keep accurate counts of Iraqis.
I was looking at the WikiScanner, this morning, and found that someone at the DHS was very busy editing Al’s Wiki entry. Oh my!
DHS edits Al Gore’s wiki
1800 Iraqis died in August. 1800. And I imagine that does not include cholera deaths.
hey! PW!
*uck the lying goopers one and all…
Confucius, (Kung), via Ezra Pound.
Sweet! Thanks for the chuckle!
*goes back out painting*
Peterr @ 37
No. For real here in SD county. I saw them last week, and thought it was just freak, but here they are again!
Laura Doty @ 29
Yup; we’ve been diarying this here at FDL quite a bit lately.
Write letters to your local papers. Spread this to your rellies and tell them to write their Congresscritters. Get on the local talk-radio lines.
Gnome de Plume @ 21
Whenever I get into a crowd like that, someone usually finds the time to ask me if I’ve accepted Jesus as my personal Lord and savior.
My reply: “Actually we’re just friends.”
Apropos lies and liars and Iraqi death toll. BarbinMD on Betrayus.
Loo Hoo – you speak Mandarin?
Astral Technician @ 51
Ha ha, I must remember that one!
It’s all Chinese to me!
Hi PW at 50. I know FDL has been talking about this muchly and I so appreciate that. I think we have to think BIGGEST about this. We need to take to the streets on this. We need big pictures and scenes. Frankly, we need the world to know we don’t want this. We need LOTS of pressure, given the fact that Cheney doesn’t really doesn’t care about the constitution or the citizenry.
It reminds me of a time long ago when an attorney I know was at a dressy up party and a pillar of the legal community put his hand down her low-backed dress. She put her own hands on his crotch and loudly told him (in front of a crowd) that if he did it again, she’d “twist them off.” (He didn’t do it again). Street theater might trump Kabuki.
I’d like a firedoglake post with one of my favorite “Far Side” cartoons… it shows Tarzan on the highway with a metal skeleton of an elephant that has the caption “Tantor burns up on I-90″. This pic reminded me of that… as I-90 runs through Idaho, I think the caption should be changed to “GOP burns up on I-90″….
David Ehrenstein @ 31
Raygun the imbecile compares poorly with Kung.
OT I just wanted to point out this from the NYT article on Condoleezza Rice.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09…..ref=slogin
OK, does anyone wonder anymore why George Bush and Condoleezza Rice get on so well together? Except for the playing Brahms, all this could have been a description of the Deciderator himself.
The article is funny in an existentialist sort of way. Condi is worried about her legacy. Apparently it has not filtered into her world view yet that when you serve the worst President in our history that is your “legacy”.
“Just in time for the holiday, two liberal groups–United for a Fair Economy and the Institute for Policy Studies–have issued a gleefully malicious new attack on our CEO class. They point out that the CEOs of large companies earn an average of $10.8 million a year, which is 362 times as much as the average American worker, and retire with $10.1 million in their exclusive pension funds. The groups further point out that the compensation of US CEOs wildly exceeds that of their European counterparts, who, we are invited to believe, work equally hard.”
I’m with you, Laura Doty.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 9
Gosh, wouldn’t it though! I long for that day!
Astral Technician @ 51
I gotta file this one away. A great polytheistic quip.
Condi is worried about her legacy.
Doesn’t one have to actually *do* something in order to have a legacy?
The truth will set you free, but the Republicans seem to be happy as slaves. They don’t want to think they want to be told what to do. Thinking is hard. Thinking is dangerous and they are afraid. They would rather live on thier knees (I’m talking to you Larry) than stand up for what they say they believe in. I remember when the Republican Party was suppose to stand for fiscal responsibility, civil rights and conserving our resources. That was a long time ago. I voted for Tom McCall (a Republican) for Governor of Oregon and was proud to do it, but now I wouldn’t vote for a Republican for dog catcher. Is Michael Vick a Republican?
jayt @ 64
I hear tell she shops.
jayt @ 63
No, one needs to bribe the historians and the press into SAYING that one has done something. It’s the rebub way.
jayt @ 64
Nice jayt. Asked and answered.
Craig presser on
David Ehrenstein @ 31
Ronald Reagan is a stupid thing – FACT
Hypocrisy only burns those who practice it!
Whoa, George’s surgeon general nominee has got himself some serious problems!
Laura Doty@56
One day I was performing in the subway and there was a remarkably beautiful woman standing on the crowded platform. A man getting off the train passed her on her right and grabbed her left “cheek.’ and just kept walking.
Thinking she had been grabbed by a man standing behind her on her right, she wails around an unexpectedly punches him square in the nose. She then got on the train, the doors closed, leaving the hapless guy standing there with his nose bleeding.
It all went down so perfectly. The Marks Brothers couldn’t have done it better
Craig thanking his family and the governor.
sounds like he’s quitting… speaking in the past tense…
amusing shit from C&L
But even such tight control could not always filter out the bizarre world inside the [Green Zone] barricades. At one point, [three visiting members of Congress] were trying to discuss the state of Iraqi security forces with Iraq’s national security adviser, Mowaffak al-Rubaie, but the large, flat-panel television set facing the official proved to be a distraction. Rubaie was watching children’s cartoons.
When Moran asked him to turn it off, Rubaie protested with a laugh and said, “But this is my favorite television show,” Moran recalled.
[Rep. Jon Porter (R-Nev.)] confirmed the incident, although he tried to paint the scene in the best light, noting that at least they had electricity.
“I don’t disagree it was an odd moment, but I did take a deep breath and say, ‘Wait a minute, at least they are using the latest technology, and they are monitoring the world,’ ” Porter said. “But, yes, it was pretty annoying.”
Craig: I’ve served the people of Idaho, I love Idaho.
“pursuing my legal options”??? wtf?
Oh, he’s resigning to clear his name.
Craig: I apologize, the nation’s full attention should be on critical issues. Therefore I resign Sep 30th.
dang! I owe someone 50 cents!
Anyone know how to search the FDL archives for a particular date?
Loo Hoo. @ 72
Super-Gooper.
OldCoastie @ 78
“pursing my legal options”??? wtf?
He is now on a deluded mission to have his Guilty Plea withdrawn.
Maybe he had to blow off Bill Moyers because Rove went to Burning Man.
OldCoastie @ 77
pursing or pursuing?
RonD @ 80
He hasn’t said 9/11 yet.
He is resigning effective September 30. People in the audience start cheering and clapping.
newtonusr @ 82
He’s also the guy whose ex-wife said he anally raped her in her sleep many times.
Craig: I’ve enjoyed what you have given me-I hope I have served Idaho well. Wife and me are humbled beyond words. Thank You.
SEEEEYYYAAAAAAA !!!!
RonD @ 77
Yes, he is da ho. Dat’s right.
TexBetsy @ 86
parsing ?
Loo Hoo. @ 61
; )
Tex – “pursuing”
yippee! He’s staying until Sept. 30. He’s gonna ’stick it out’. (I gotta quit putting it that way).
Hugh @ 88
Really? Why Sept. 30th? Pension?
Loo Hoo. @ 95
Wait till governor can appoint someone new?
TexBetsy @ 81
It depends upon your preferences. Tall, short, blonde, brown or black hair, that sort of thing.
Also you can go to the calendar on the upper right of this screen and click on the day or month you are interested in.
I’m sorry to see him go, wish he would have stayed .
Loo Hoo. @ 96
That nasty bad boy will be grilled to perfection by then.
and now Pat Buchanan is saying the governor is standing behind Craig “…like a real man”
Geez, Buchanan has a way with words.
Pat Buchanan – “I thought he went out like a man”.
Pat, you left out a word between “a” and “man”.
Governor picked his AG for the spot.
wigwam @ 39
Yes! Great idea!
Did the crowd really cheer?
I like your bumper sticker, Wigwam.
Loo Hoo. @ 105
Well, not the entire crowd. But, yes there were cheers.
Craig thanked Bill Sali (Asshole-ID) and his wife for standing behind him.
OK.
Loo Hoo. @ 105
yup.
Loo Hoo. @ 105
I think they were supporters being supportive
Re-Post?
Bush’s Homophobic Surgeon General Nominee Charged With Conflicts Of Interest – Funnels Millions From Church
link
He stole millions from the Methodist Church to advance fundie agenda.
Someone said it the other night, but it bears repeating: I can’t wait to see the headline that says,
“Closeted Senator Replaced by Butch Otter.”
guess I oughta leave the country more often. I’m gone a week and Gonzo resigns, another repub gets caught with his not-so-proverbial pants down, Warner retires…..wooohoooo!
Ann in AZ @ 62
When is the latest Gore could enter and yet make the early caucuses and primaries?
Me @73
Marx bros…sheesh
So since Craig comes from Idaho, is his signature move now going to be called the “potatoe” a la Dan Quayle as in: He went into the restroom and gave the guy his potatoe but the guy was having any of it and mashed it.
RonD @ 112
Why, I Otter smack you! (just kidding!)
Speaking of otters: Got to see an otter family playing by the boats docked in the harbor at Grand Marais, Minnesota last week. Cute!
Elliott @ 99
I wish he had stayed in the men’s room…
leslie @ 101
Well, he can’t top Craig from the other day. “I’d like to thank you all for coming out …. ” D’oh!!!!!
newtonusr @ 108
So when is Diaper Dave Vitter (R-State with a Democratic Governor) resigning?
Another drive-by announcement, which you will get every time Howie’s name is mentioned in the comments. OC, pay attention:
Howie will be speaking at the Foothill Community Democrats club meeting in Monrovia, CA on Sept. 27. Meeting commences 7-ish and goes to 9-ish, at the Peach Cafe. If you order before 2PM the day of the meeting, a lovely salad or sandwich or a cup of fantabulous gazpacho will be waiting for you. Come meet Howie.
If enough of you come, maybe we could have an FDL caucus meeting after :) Mods know where to find me if you want more details.
HI PW.
RonD @ 77
Did he really use that language? He can’t stop stepping in it, can he?
Joe Klein’s conscience @ 119
Ain’t THAT the truth.
you just can’t make this stuff up.
nice post pheonix women, I went over to your site and left a rebuttle post as well
ifthethunderdontgetya @ 120
When he asks for money to run again and he’s finds none.
Joe Klein’s conscience @ 122
There was other stuff between it, and I was condensing, but yeah, he did say it. I can’t type as fast as Helen.
Usual GOP cruelty – the young Rethugs might as well formalize it and make “tearing off butterfly wings” an entry criteria.
THe GOP has become the party of sociopaths – remorseless, vindictive, amoral, cruel.
Perfect place for Rove, Shrub, and Cheney.
As the Hague shall prove to be.
OldCoastie @ 109
Hugh @ 116
Senator Potatoe Head
PW, we wuz on the Green River, about to head into Desolation Canyon, last week and the biggest beaver I have ever seen (must have been from the big beaver corridor) waddled up onto the bank about 10 ft from our 7 kids watching it with their mouths hanging open. He gave them a look – Wadda YOU lookin’ at – and began to graze on the baby tamarisks shoots. He stayed there about 5 minutes, and then slipped back into the river. A coupla minutes later a coupla local redneck took a few shots at it as it swam across the river, causing the kids to collapse in heaps of tears. Missed, TG. The ranger was not amused.
We also clocked an antelope running alongside our car at about 35 mph. The otters we saw last year in Flaming Gorge were one of my animal sighting highlights.
Now Buchanan is speaking out for “the wife”.
“It’s really hard on her in that she’s the wife of a senator”.
Yup. no other wife would feel bad.
Cripes.
Joe Klein’s conscience @ 119
I wouldn’t be too certain about that….
David Ehrenstein posted this last thread, but I didn’t get it!
Seen at HowardEmpoweredPeople
w00t!
Oklahoma kiddo @ 60
Well the European economy’s doing better than ours and the wages there have actually been increasing (as compared to ours which have been flat for roughly 30 years). So this chortling about how much they work? Pfft.
Besides, it’s been pretty consistently shown how much better people function when they do take regular vacations. We should be ashamed, not proud of the pitiful 2 weeks a year people get IF they get vacay bennies in the first place.
Astral Technician @ 133
Dr. Dean vindicated, Hillary alone.
Loo Hoo. @ 132
The Governor replacing Craig is named “Butch Otter.”
I’m just wondering what the opposite of a “butch” otter is?
RonD @ 90
Anybody started a pool yet on when we hear about the divorce?
Hugh at 116 funny!
do you all think he might be staying through the 30th for votes coming up? they probably won’t get a new person up to speed immediately?
This must be so hard for his family, even if somehow he were vindicated down the road–
dakine01 @ 136
That would be ‘Bitch’ Otter.
Otter than that he’s still a Goper. Phuqm.
Alicia @ 24
Afternoon everyone.
Great post PW.
The thing that keeps me going, that makes me look forward to each day is knowing that in the future, my kids will be looking at themselves and my ex and saying Dad was right about all this, while all over America heads will be exploding and legions of people will look like complete buttholes for falling for the lie.
In essence, I’m waiting for the big “I told you so” moment. Even if I have to be preserved like a Futurama head-in-a-jar I wanna see all these gullible little Nazis walking around dazed and confused.
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Usual GOP cruelty – the young Rethugs might as well formalize it and make “tearing off butterfly wings” an entry criteria.
THe GOP has become the party of sociopaths – remorseless, vindictive, amoral, cruel.
Perfect place for Rove, Shrub, and Cheney.
As the Hague shall prove to be.
It’s gone. There was an article early this morning in either the NYT or the WaPo about a group meeting in NYC to discuss war criminals, and said they would hold anyone responsible for war crimes to account. Anyone else see it? Have I lost it?
BTW, Loo Hoo, thank you for the nice comment. :)
dakine01 @ 136
A McConnell otter?
newtonusr @ 135
I bet James Carville really has his panties in a twist over this one.
Can you say “Bitch Slap?”
RonD @ 142
Well, I learned a lot from your article! Suggested reading, fer sure. (Click RonD’s name)
leslie @ 101
“Like a real man” would that be the same as “wide stanced”?
Astral Technician @ 144
that’s gonna be bad news for clinton…she can’t acquiesce, she’ll look too week, she can’t campaign there she’ll look like an enabler
tough times at the Hil
the only way she can overcome an obstacle like this is to make it look like the other candidates are ganging up against her
she has to handle that properly as well, she has to say;
“look, I’m the front runner, of course they have to find a method to gain some of my lead and this is one method”
that strategy might work
Mythical chupacabra found in Texas? One ugly critter!
Loo Hoo. @ 141
I saw it.
Loo Hoo. @ 49
Where are all the crows? Is there an over-abundance of squirrel nests in the area?
Hugh @ 146
dunno. I’m seeing the replay, and there’s this guy in the background wearing a blue shirt, top button unbuttoned, a jacket and I can’t see anything beyond that.
his “stance” is under the radar.
some newsreader on CNN is saying his (Craig’s) been “soiled” and “when will it be safe to reach out to him.”
What is with these boobs?
perris @ 147
Why does this remind me of how she dealt with Iraq? She’ll do what she thinks is best for her and if it goes South then she will blame it on somebody else.
jeebus, if there was ever any doubt about how vacuous Ellen Tauscher is, check out these trite and hackneyed responses in a puff-piece “interview” in the East Bay Business Times (excerpts only – suscription req’d.):
bonus track:
james, I don’t think anything has changed in the small animal population here. There are a lot of ravens, but I haven’t noticed more than usual. There were two hawks living in the pine tree next door for the last six years, and this spring they left. Haven’t seen them in the pine since. Maybe they joined the hawk brigade?
Perris
This is also a slap at the DLC which as been trying to undermine Dean and marginalize his vast following since 2003.
Lotts of Goper enablers now know they’ve been put down, hard.
that’s gonna be bad news for clinton…she can’t acquiesce, she’ll look too week, she can’t campaign there she’ll look like an enabler
tough times at the Hil
the only way she can overcome an obstacle like this is to make it look like the other candidates are ganging up against her
she has to handle that properly as well, she has to say;
“look, I’m the front runner, of course they have to find a method to gain some of my lead and this is one method”
that strategy might work
This is also a slap at the DLC which as been trying to undermine Dean and marginalize his vast following since 2003.
Lotts of Goper enablers now know they’ve been put down, hard.
leslie @ 152
Maybe they got one of the writers who quit Stewart?
Sorry about the confusion @ 156.
Couldn’t fix it.
Thanks to Howie for the news on the next smoldering GOP closet case likely to break into full flame…
in this “rough” sketch of Rep. Patrick McHenry…
and thanks for the discussion of the young men in his life – and home.
Thanks also to Howie for his convenient list of the other prominent Grand Old Poofters…
Loo Hoo. @ 155
It’s very unusual to have this many hawks working and living in the same area together. Either there has been a huge shift in the food source or the areas the usually live in (the various couples and threesomes) have been developed and they have nowhere else to turn.
Very odd.
Cool video of a man freed after 18 years in custody for child rape. DNA test proved his innocence!
I’ll see if I can get pics next time, James. I know it’s really strange.
Loo Hoo. @ 161
Does it seem to anyone else that a full DNA analysis should be a part of every investigation or appeal in this sort of crime?
Somebody of conscience should set up the Gay Republican Caucus.
RonD @ 163
Because of advances in technology, DNA tests today are more accurate and more discriminating all the time. He probably got tests done that were not availalbe 18 years ago.
“…Craig has been soiled”. I agree. And I think they should make him wash his hands before they reach out (around?)…
itwasntme @ 164
Yes, and it should be a subset of the (secular) Conservative Party that replaces the fascist theocrats that have taken over the Republican Party, after the R’ Party splinters in ‘09.
Unless the Dems really just screw it up completely.
itwasntme @ 164
And they’d all come to meetings with bags on their heads?
Loo Hoo. @ 141
I’m not sure, buit I don’t think the junta here will ever appear at the hague. First of all, the International Court of zjustice is usually where nations settle their disputes betw/among each other. Secondly, the US is not a signatory to the Rome Statute and is, therefore, not liable to be brought before the international Criminal Court unless the acts it is accused of take place in a country that recognizes the ICC. Iraq is not one of those states. Failing all else, the UN Security Council can recommend trial at the Hague, but we all know where that action is gonna go.
I think the best hope we have of ever seeing these criminals held accountable is if we ever get a functioning Justice Dept again and the AG decides to investigate and prosecute under US law the war crimes these people are guilty of.
I don’t want the international community to take care of our dirty laundry, I want to see someone step up here even if a national party has to be created and coalesce behind this as its main raison d’etre.
Oh boy, Iranians reportedly bomb villages in Northern Iraq.
perris @ 147
Senator Bill Bradley writes in his latest book on the ascendancy of the DLC as a sort of “GOP-lite”, and its success in supporting President Clinton in 1992 and 1996, while failing to represent the interests of rank and file Democrats.
My personal opinion is Senator Clinton is a profoundly authoritarian personality who will do whatever is necessary to be elected President, and may — or may not — be bounded by the law. The DLC will support her in whatever way possible.
Loo Hoo. @ 170
You just know Presidunce Dim Son is gettin’ a chubbie at the prospect of attacking Iran.
Loo Hoo. @ 170
The Iranians are no more fans of the Kurds than the Turks are…
think the best hope we have of ever seeing these criminals held accountable is if we ever get a functioning Justice Dept again and the AG decides to investigate and prosecute under US law the war crimes these people are guilty of.
I don’t want the international community to take care of our dirty laundry, I want to see someone step up here even if a national party has to be created and coalesce behind this as its main raison d’etre.
History demonstrates that America has a way to deal with egregious acts committed by its own government.
Kangaroo Courts, whitewash and pardons.
See, the public can’t stomach impeachment. It is divisive at a time when the country needs to stand united and heal its wounds. /s
I noticed someone (forget who) earlier said they missed Bob Geiger’s Saturday am cartoons. For those who are not familiar with Daryl Cagle’s Cartoon site:
Gonzalez Quits Link
and
I Am Not Gay Cartoons.
On his site, Cagle publishes both conservative and liberal artists.
Latest FaBlog: Fait Divers — Buh-Bye!
It seems the biggest obstacles to me would be a national education program, state-level infrastructure, and a lot of money.
I’m interested. Keep talking.
itwasntme @ 164
Isn’t that what the Log Cabin Republicans are?
What do you say to those amoral fucks like Tom Tancredo who say enough with the New Orleans gravy train? I mean seriously…
What to do with access to news you don’t agree with?
Eliminate the access:
U.S. Military Censors ThinkProgress
ThinkProgress is now banned from the U.S. military network in Baghdad.
You can read it at thinkprogress.org
I, unfortunately, remain — despite heartfelt efforts — link-challenged.
Memo to Craig: If you’re trying to clear your “good” name, you should know that Bob Novak is already saying that everyone on the Republican side of the Senate suspected you of “errant homosexual behavior”.
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=22185
New thread!
Twisted Martini @ 179
Right on Tom! It’s time to get biscuits to the people who have been waiting for years now.
Stop doling out gravy to contractors.
Laura Doty @ 56
What about this for a great example of street theater/protest?
http://asheville.indymedia.org/article/107Clowns
Best I’ve heard of in many years.
Twisted Martini @ 179
Maybe someone should clue him into 1) who decided to redirect the flow of the Mississippi river to make it more conducive to commerce 2) what branch of government was responsible for the construction and upkeep of those levees in perpetuity 3) whose responsibility it was to oversee the funds that were appropriated for the victims and also for the reconstruction to see that the money went into the right hands and that the reconstruction was done properly.
That’s just for starters.
Laura Doty @ 56
and there you have in a nutshell
how the average normal male
pays for the actions of the creep
wake up all you guys
when you hear that all men are bast*rds
it’s because this type is not nailed
and you are tarred with the same brush
Loo Hoo. @ 34
That and the collective spider web…SIGNS!
ORGANIZE!
Arnie @ 70
LOL!
???? In her sleep?
Beautifully put.
Who else noticed that Lusty Larry was wearing the exact same pants he wore on Tuesday? They didn’t look like they had made a trip to the dry cleaners in the mean time.
Same belt, too.
Changed his shirt, though.