Comments on: Now, More Than Ever… http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/31/now-more-than-ever/ Firedoglake weblog Fri, 27 Nov 2009 17:10:22 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: dweezel http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/31/now-more-than-ever/#comment-934946 dweezel Sat, 01 Sep 2007 00:26:53 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/08/31/now-more-than-ever/#comment-934946 <p>I think Meeks is spot on. the government funding can’t go on like this. What do we have to show for it? I mean lets do a comparison to say welfare dollars. Like look at the katrina folks. man we been sendint them checks for fourty years and wham soon as a hurricane hits man they busted loose aith all kinds of behavior. I mean why did they have to kill the old lady after they stole her morphine cancer medication. so I am with Meelsey from Mimami. Accountability is first. we want more bang for our tax bucks.</p> I think Meeks is spot on. the government funding can’t go on like this. What do we have to show for it? I mean lets do a comparison to say welfare dollars. Like look at the katrina folks. man we been sendint them checks for fourty years and wham soon as a hurricane hits man they busted loose aith all kinds of behavior. I mean why did they have to kill the old lady after they stole her morphine cancer medication. so I am with Meelsey from Mimami. Accountability is first. we want more bang for our tax bucks.

]]> By: Alecia http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/31/now-more-than-ever/#comment-934908 Alecia Sat, 01 Sep 2007 00:05:08 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/08/31/now-more-than-ever/#comment-934908 <p>Gov. Bill Richardson needs to pack his bags for Iraq, he is the only person that I believe can find a peaceful resolution to this war. He needs to stay there until a diplomatic solution is found and when he comes back with one, he will be well deserving of the presidency…..now that is what I would call real leadership.</p> Gov. Bill Richardson needs to pack his bags for Iraq, he is the only person that I believe can find a peaceful resolution to this war. He needs to stay there until a diplomatic solution is found and when he comes back with one, he will be well deserving of the presidency…..now that is what I would call real leadership.

]]> By: casual observer http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/31/now-more-than-ever/#comment-934316 casual observer Fri, 31 Aug 2007 18:41:30 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/08/31/now-more-than-ever/#comment-934316 <p>question for the mods–</p> <p>Why did you do that?</p> question for the mods–

Why did you do that?

]]> By: sona http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/31/now-more-than-ever/#comment-934260 sona Fri, 31 Aug 2007 17:44:00 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/08/31/now-more-than-ever/#comment-934260 <p>I have read more criticism of Lik*d’s policies in the Israeli media than I have encountered in the USA, including nonMSM, media. My general impression of North American media is that it, left or right or centre or nowhere, is too defensive to acknowledge that Israeli society and its politics is not homogeneous but plural like almost every other country. The world accepts readily that neocons are not the only US political ideology and the Likud is one party among many in Israeli politics.</p> <p>That said, CHS has a point that regular posters at a blog write about what they want to write about. </p> <p>Lik*d’s dominance since 1967 has subverted all attempts for peace in the ME because it is simply not possible without resolving the issue of Palestine and Balkanisation into disaggregated Arab Bantustans is never going to work. This in no way questions I*rael’s right to exist within its pre1967 borders.</p> <p>Mearsheimer and Walt are not the only Jewish voices that questioned the role of A*P*C in influencing the current neocon ideological putsch in the USA. Nor do I think non Jewish voices should be silenced for fear of being labelled antisemites. Most who argue that are more East European Khazars and less semitic than Palestinians.</p> <p>The issue of A*P*C is a subset of the bigger problem of lobbyists’ influence on US politics, their access to Congress members, their monies to purchase pork barelling earmarks and fatten political campaigns. Who finances the think tanks that American politicians seek policy advice from to safeguard national strategic interests? This is just a suggestion to reframe the issue away from questioning I*rael’s role on shaping US policies. You cannot sheet the blame on another country if you cannot hold your own elected representatives to account.</p> <p><i>Edited and released by Mods</i></p> I have read more criticism of Lik*d’s policies in the Israeli media than I have encountered in the USA, including nonMSM, media. My general impression of North American media is that it, left or right or centre or nowhere, is too defensive to acknowledge that Israeli society and its politics is not homogeneous but plural like almost every other country. The world accepts readily that neocons are not the only US political ideology and the Likud is one party among many in Israeli politics.

That said, CHS has a point that regular posters at a blog write about what they want to write about.

Lik*d’s dominance since 1967 has subverted all attempts for peace in the ME because it is simply not possible without resolving the issue of Palestine and Balkanisation into disaggregated Arab Bantustans is never going to work. This in no way questions I*rael’s right to exist within its pre1967 borders.

Mearsheimer and Walt are not the only Jewish voices that questioned the role of A*P*C in influencing the current neocon ideological putsch in the USA. Nor do I think non Jewish voices should be silenced for fear of being labelled antisemites. Most who argue that are more East European Khazars and less semitic than Palestinians.

The issue of A*P*C is a subset of the bigger problem of lobbyists’ influence on US politics, their access to Congress members, their monies to purchase pork barelling earmarks and fatten political campaigns. Who finances the think tanks that American politicians seek policy advice from to safeguard national strategic interests? This is just a suggestion to reframe the issue away from questioning I*rael’s role on shaping US policies. You cannot sheet the blame on another country if you cannot hold your own elected representatives to account.

Edited and released by Mods

]]> By: casual observer http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/31/now-more-than-ever/#comment-934180 casual observer Fri, 31 Aug 2007 17:02:28 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/08/31/now-more-than-ever/#comment-934180 <p>I caught Meek and two colleagues on CSPAN yesterday, discussing their “day in Iraq”. I think they said they’d spent some 18 hours on the ground. But I was very interested to hear their answer to a press question regarding the 50 billion appropriation coming up in the house. One of the three congressmen said, flat-out, “I will not vote against funding with our troops in the field.” The other two, which including Meek himself, were stronger in opposition, discussing clear timelines, etc. All democrats.</p> I caught Meek and two colleagues on CSPAN yesterday, discussing their “day in Iraq”. I think they said they’d spent some 18 hours on the ground. But I was very interested to hear their answer to a press question regarding the 50 billion appropriation coming up in the house. One of the three congressmen said, flat-out, “I will not vote against funding with our troops in the field.” The other two, which including Meek himself, were stronger in opposition, discussing clear timelines, etc. All democrats.

]]> By: Christy Hardin Smith http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/31/now-more-than-ever/#comment-934175 Christy Hardin Smith Fri, 31 Aug 2007 17:00:17 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/08/31/now-more-than-ever/#comment-934175 <p>Thanks brendan, really appreciate it. I’m just having a day today…SIGH</p> Thanks brendan, really appreciate it. I’m just having a day today…SIGH

]]> By: brendan http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/31/now-more-than-ever/#comment-934157 brendan Fri, 31 Aug 2007 16:51:02 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/08/31/now-more-than-ever/#comment-934157 <p><a href="#comment-934142"><em>Christy Hardin Smith @ 125</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>brendan at 120 — This is an ongoing discussion, as you well know, which comes up from time to time. And I’ve answered the question ad nauseum on a weekly basis when it comes up. I’m having one of those days when my phone is ringing off the hook, I have surprise company and I’m trying to get 80 things done at once — and having to deal with this question…yet again today…isn’t exactly how I wanted to spend my day.</p> <p>My level of “discomfort?” It’s born of frustration at answering the same question and having to then turn around and answer it again…and again…and again…</p></blockquote> <p>I was sincere in saying I didn’t need you to respond. I value your time more than my own, quite frankly. Thanks for the response anyway, thanks for the forebearance you show, and, above all, thanks for the site.</p> Christy Hardin Smith @ 125

brendan at 120 — This is an ongoing discussion, as you well know, which comes up from time to time. And I’ve answered the question ad nauseum on a weekly basis when it comes up. I’m having one of those days when my phone is ringing off the hook, I have surprise company and I’m trying to get 80 things done at once — and having to deal with this question…yet again today…isn’t exactly how I wanted to spend my day.

My level of “discomfort?” It’s born of frustration at answering the same question and having to then turn around and answer it again…and again…and again…

I was sincere in saying I didn’t need you to respond. I value your time more than my own, quite frankly. Thanks for the response anyway, thanks for the forebearance you show, and, above all, thanks for the site.

]]> By: Christy Hardin Smith http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/31/now-more-than-ever/#comment-934142 Christy Hardin Smith Fri, 31 Aug 2007 16:44:02 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/08/31/now-more-than-ever/#comment-934142 <p>brendan at 120 — This is an ongoing discussion, as you well know, which comes up from time to time. And I’ve answered the question ad nauseum on a weekly basis when it comes up. I’m having one of those days when my phone is ringing off the hook, I have surprise company and I’m trying to get 80 things done at once — and having to deal with this question…yet again today…isn’t exactly how I wanted to spend my day.</p> <p>My level of “discomfort?” It’s born of frustration at answering the same question and having to then turn around and answer it again…and again…and again…</p> brendan at 120 — This is an ongoing discussion, as you well know, which comes up from time to time. And I’ve answered the question ad nauseum on a weekly basis when it comes up. I’m having one of those days when my phone is ringing off the hook, I have surprise company and I’m trying to get 80 things done at once — and having to deal with this question…yet again today…isn’t exactly how I wanted to spend my day.

My level of “discomfort?” It’s born of frustration at answering the same question and having to then turn around and answer it again…and again…and again…

]]> By: brendan http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/31/now-more-than-ever/#comment-934139 brendan Fri, 31 Aug 2007 16:43:31 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/08/31/now-more-than-ever/#comment-934139 <p>moderator @119:</p> <p>Thank you for putting it plainly. I will take your advice.</p> moderator @119:

Thank you for putting it plainly. I will take your advice.

]]> By: brendan http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/31/now-more-than-ever/#comment-934135 brendan Fri, 31 Aug 2007 16:41:00 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/08/31/now-more-than-ever/#comment-934135 <p><a href="#comment-934103"><em>Audrey @ 121</em></a></p> <blockquote><p><a href="#comment-934084"><em>brendan @ 119</em></a></p> <blockquote> <p>Who “ranted” at you about writing about it? Who even “pressured” you? One commenter, Quaker Girl, made a limited suggestion, and I followed up by amplifying it, and that was the first time I’ve ever addressed a comment on the dread topic to you personally. Everyone, even me, was appropriately deferential, at least on the matter of what the content of your posts is. Let everyone know if you want the subject discussed on your blog at all, because your defensiveness reveals real discomfort with it, perhaps understandbly for a site that engages in Democratic party activism.</p></blockquote> <p>Brendan,</p> <p>You’re not the first and neither is QG. It happens more than you know. Also, see my 107 above. It’s not just a difficult issue. </p> <p>Hope this helps.</p></blockquote> <p>I hadn’t thought of that. I don’t see everything CHS sees coming over the transom.</p> Audrey @ 121

brendan @ 119

Who “ranted” at you about writing about it? Who even “pressured” you? One commenter, Quaker Girl, made a limited suggestion, and I followed up by amplifying it, and that was the first time I’ve ever addressed a comment on the dread topic to you personally. Everyone, even me, was appropriately deferential, at least on the matter of what the content of your posts is. Let everyone know if you want the subject discussed on your blog at all, because your defensiveness reveals real discomfort with it, perhaps understandbly for a site that engages in Democratic party activism.

Brendan,

You’re not the first and neither is QG. It happens more than you know. Also, see my 107 above. It’s not just a difficult issue.

Hope this helps.

I hadn’t thought of that. I don’t see everything CHS sees coming over the transom.

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