zunoed?

Hey Jane! You rawk!

Hey Dakene01

Tuckery is such a fuckin’ dweeb.

What kind of tuckery is this?

Hey Tucker, Who’s your daddy?

zedecile!

Tucker’s a wanna-be gay basher.

Flush him.

Jane: Do you think any Republicans may start to crossover? And do you wonder how happy all these news items must be to Joe now that his eggs are in the Gop basket?

I happen to think that Tucker made it up to be cool.

I already wrote to them — and Abrams, Scarborough, and Tucker himself, as well as the top brass.

I suggested that Tucker continues to get his Wingnut Welfare because of his daddy. Jebus! That baby is an adult now. The pathology is so apparent. If daddy just spent time with little Tucker, things might improve. But no, daddy is too busy raising money for Scooter.

Attention parents! If you ignore your kids, you get Tucker. (And most Americans can’t get Wingnut Welfare Teevee to prop them up.)

I have no idea where Tuckery went to HS or college but I’d wager it was NOT a public school. Had it been a public school, I’d wager he would have spent his entire freshman and sophomore years with permanent wedgies provided by the jocks.

Hell, even at a private school, he prol’ly spent most of his freshman year in wedgie-land.

ccmask @ 9

I happen to think that Tucker made it up to be cool.

A distinct possibility. Which gives you some kind of yardstick to measure what a dweeb he really is.

F**k bowtie boy

Bo Diddley at Wembley. Get up and dance, it’s Friday!!!

LINK

Oh, oh I think I pulled a muscle.

What a nice looking young man, eh?

Hey MSNBC! Get rid of Tucker and give his slot to DAVID SHUSTER!!!!

If MSNBC was a serious news organization it would have never hired the likes of Carlson, Matthews, or Scarborough in the first place. It remains their best job security.

High school dakine01 @ 11

I have no idea where Tuckery went to HS or college

Deerfield, then St George’s for high school, then Trinity College in CT after that. I know where he went to lower and middle school too, but I’ll keep that one to myself :P Suffice it to say, he never saw the inside of a public school

The Matthew Shepard Foundation.

ccmask @ 9

I happen to think that Tucker made it up to be cool.

Cool as viewed by overage dipsh*t frat boys everywhere.

Blub @ 17

High school dakine01 @ 11

I have no idea where Tuckery went to HS or college

Deerfield, then St George’s for high school, then Trinity College in CT after that. I know where he went to lower and middle school too, but I’ll keep that one to myself :P Suffice it to say, he never saw the inside of a public school

I assume that St George’s is some type of waspish/preppy haven?

We did have one or two Tuckery types at the military high school I attended in the late ’60s. They either changed dramatically or they didn’t hang around too long.

…and you have to believe that half of Tucker’s audience is watching for the sheer sport of mocking his pathetic…well…everything about that little twerp is pathetic. I generally can’t watch for more than a few minutes before his whiny, pompous, blatant lies make me sorry I turned on the tube in the first place.

I truly believe that TV is not far behind newspapers from a viability standpoint as a source of news for Americans that care about more than their own little universe. The toobz have changed everything. They must remain ours (as in We the People).

dweeb

Hugh @ 16

Matthews, or Scarborough

Not quite in the same league of fluffy infamy as Tuckery. Tucker’s more standup comic than talking head

dakine01 @ 20

St George’s is some type of waspish/preppy haven?

Extremely

lolo @ 15

Hey MSNBC! Get rid of Tucker and give his slot to DAVID SHUSTER!!!!

lolo! Good to see you! Tucker needs to go, fer sure.

Maybe Tucker’s daddy has pictures of Jeffrey Immelt in bed with an underage goat.

But, really, Carlson is no worse than Jonah Goldberg or Ross Douthat, so why are we complaining?

Paraphrasing Warner

No one can say politics can dictate what I am going to say about Iraq

congress also has it’s framework

I want some bipartianship to resolve this

I’ve tried to pay back the US military for all they have given me through the years

The press in our state has been fair

reporter: Be candid with us, what do you think of GWB?
Warner: I’ll withhold any commnents till after Sept 15, …

… these are critical times, finacial, Iraq, Iran, Syria, Pakistan, etc

Oh oh, I have a great idea for MSNBC.

Fire Tucker.

Give her slot to Amy Goodman.

“his” -or whatever.

Of course, the rumors for years have been that Tuckie-poo is a little light in his loafers.

Of course, there’s no way he could be teh gai, him having a wife and all.

Oh wait…

allan_in_upstate @ 26

Maybe Tucker’s daddy has pictures of Jeffrey Immelt in bed with an underage goat.

But, really, Carlson is no worse than Jonah Goldberg or Ross Douthat, so why are we complaining?

Because Wide-doughy Pantload and the other guy don’t have national TV (albeit cable) platforms with which to spout there gibberish everyday.

allan_in_upstate @ 26

But, really, Carlson is no worse than Jonah Goldberg or Ross Douthat, so why are we complaining?

I agree. He’s really quite entertaining, and in a less blood-curdling/suicide-inducing way than most of the foxheads. ’sides, if MSNBC fires him for being the idiot that he is, he long do you think it’ll be before Murdoch picks up his contract? Best to leave him where he is and either ignore him or, better yet, make fun of him.

Tucker was actually a decent sports reporter. His shtick was, make wild prediction (as authorotatively as possible), come back on at the half, good naturedly let the other guys laugh at you, make another wild prediction…

He’s never learned that that doesn’t work well with real news. And he doesn’t have people on to laugh at him when he’s wrong.

Speaking of sports reporters, it looks like KO got a permanent gig on Sunday Night Football.

Countdown – Highest rated cable news program last night per KO a few minutes ago!

The Sunday night network gig probably helped

Blub @ 23

Hugh @ 16

Matthews, or Scarborough

Not quite in the same league of fluffy infamy as Tuckery. Tucker’s more standup comic than talking head

I don’t watch much cable news. When I do, I can only watch Tucker for about 15 seconds before changing the channel. I have never seen much of Scarborough and never cared to. Matthews I have seen a little more of. He is occasionally coherent but this state is transient and seldom lasts more than about 5 minutes. He then predictably lapses back into his usual preening and inanity.

Wow. Look at what happened in Kansas.

Kansas governor signs executive order banning discrimination
Body: Kansas governor signs executive order banning discrimination in the workplace

Just in time for the federal Labor Day holiday, this morning, Kansas governor Kathleen Sebelius signed an executive order that will prohibit discrimination against GLBT state employees.

The executive order, which takes effect immediately, will protect more than 37,000 Kansas state employees from being fired due to their sexual orientation or gender identity.

Tucker covered sports? I didn’t realize that reporter’s covered polo. Learn something new everyday ;)

GordonM @ 33

Tucker was actually a decent sports reporter. His shtick was, make wild prediction (as authorotatively as possible), come back on at the half, good naturedly let the other guys laugh at you, make another wild prediction…

He’s never learned that that doesn’t work well with real news. And he doesn’t have people on to laugh at him when he’s wrong.

Ah, well, what a wonderful excuse for playing fast and loose with the truth (and keeping the power elite’s message firmly in your face every friggin’ day). He’s en-ter-tain-ing….

Like most politicians, the MSM “follows” public opinion. Lag time is anywhere between 3 years and forever.

Their CW is that “leading” is bad, very bad. Dangerous even. And not human nature; no, not at all.

One could…gulp…lose the very few viewers one has.

Even way back in prehistoric times:

-Og, it’s your turn to peek out of the cave.
-Heck no! There might be lions and tigers and bears! Oh, my!

So in the time-honored tradition of cave-critters everywhere, they bury their heads in the sand and convince themselves that hoarding the very small crumb they have is all the gold there is in the world.

Only after years of Democratic majorities will the MSM finally take it to heart and throw those useless wingnuts under the bus.

wangdangdoodle @ 34

Speaking of sports reporters, it looks like KO got a permanent gig on Sunday Night Football.

Damn, that’s almost as good news as this have been Rove’s last fucking day! Bottoms up!

Woo-hoo!

(and I don’t even watch…)

wangdangdoodle @ 34

Speaking of sports reporters, it looks like KO got a permanent gig on Sunday Night Football.

I’m still trying to decide what my favorite thing about the whole Larry Craig scandal is.

I’m torn between it adding new meaning to the phrase ‘Republican stall tactics’ (which all Democrats should use as their main talking point when describing GOP obstructionism, with the emphasis on ’stall’) or the fact that when someone talks about the Republican legislator who got caught trolling a public men’s room for anonymous gay sex, I can now honestly respond, “Which one?”

btw, I just found Tucker’s real facebook page. Search for him.. his profile is private but his friend’s list is public.. check it out.. it’s quite revealing, in its preppiness. You’d also think he’s about 10 years younger than he really is.

What do you guys think about the telecoms getting immunity? I wrote AT&T in December of 2005, and they denied any involvement in illegal wiretaps.

GordonM @ 41

wangdangdoodle @ 34

Speaking of sports reporters, it looks like KO got a permanent gig on Sunday Night Football.

Damn, that’s almost as good news as this have been Rove’s last fucking day! Bottoms up!

at least they SAY it’s his last day.

You just can’t trust some people.

does anyone else think Tucker has a bit of Senator “tearoom trade” Craig in him?

Whenever I see his little face, I think how nice it is to still have grownups tolerating your conversation at the grownup parties. Like having a ham radio under the dining table. really precocious.

“But, really, Carlson is no worse than Jonah Goldberg or Ross Douthat, so why are we complaining?”

Because I don’t have to accidentally see Jonah or Ross when I am tuning in to Keith.

JGabriel @ 43

I’m still trying to decide what my favorite thing about the whole Larry Craig scandal is.

Here’s mine:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILDoDPKjs0Q

(Posted also in the Spin I’m In thread.)

Loo Hoo. @ 45

What do you guys think about the telecoms getting immunity? I wrote AT&T in December of 2005, and they denied any involvement in illegal wiretaps.

in the immortal word of Ted Stevens, “NO!”

sunshine @ 27

Paraphrasing Warner

No one can say politics can dictate what I am going to say about Iraq

congress also has it’s framework

I want some bipartianship to resolve this

I’ve tried to pay back the US military for all they have given me through the years

The press in our state has been fair

reporter: Be candid with us, what do you think of GWB?
Warner: I’ll withhold any commnents till after Sept 15, …

… these are critical times, finacial, Iraq, Iran, Syria, Pakistan, etc

If Warner thought so much of the troops he would be pushing to get them out of Iraq yesterday. Instead he whimpers about 5,000 out maybe by Christmas. Also when a Republican tells you it is not about politics, especially one who has spent nearly 30 years in the Senate, it is a good time to start checking yourself for stab wounds.

Blub @ 44

btw, I just found Tucker’s real facebook page. Search for him.. his profile is private but his friend’s list is public.. check it out.. it’s quite revealing, in its preppiness. You’d also think he’s about 10 years younger than he really is.

I think Carlson was excused by a large part of the viewing public for his being young when he started out. He just forgot to grow up, and it grates on everyone.

Thank Dog for Hugh!

I love that Tucker’s dad was once U.S. ambassador to the Seychelles. What, Barbados wasn’t available?

I haven’t been able to find the time to type around here, let alone read everything this week…but the doors are closed and the employees are gone and I wanted to share a little sea story with y’all.

I went to Coast Guard electronic school in 1970 on Governor’s Island just a short ferry ride from Wall Street in New York. Great duty and a wild time to be in the City.

So we had this guy in school with us that loved to go into town and drink, but he started bragging that he’d pick up gay guys and lead them on, then “roll” them, beat them up. He would sometimes keep stuff they had. Some of us were pretty disgusted, but he found an approving audience for his stories of what a he-man he was for getting “the fags”.

Well a couple of months after he started this he stopped coming back to the barracks at night, trailing in nicely hungover the middle of the next day. He also stopped telling the gay-bashing stories. Then he started heading out right at five on Friday, dressed nicely, and we wouldn’t see him till late Sunday. And he got real quiet.

Since then I’ve been suspect when someone tells a story about how they did some bashing in their past.

Hugh @ 51

If Warner thought so much of the troops he would be pushing to get them out of Iraq yesterday. Instead he whimpers about 5,000 out maybe by Christmas. Also when a Republican tells you it is not about politics, especially one who has spent nearly 30 years in the Senate, it is a good time to start checking yourself for stab wounds.

Anyone want to start a pool on how many defense/aerospace corporate boards Warner ends up on once his waiting period is up?

Wiki doesn’t mention any marriage or kids for Tucker. Classic Tucker Carlson video here with Jon Stewart.

Loo Hoo. @ 45

What do you guys think about the telecoms getting immunity?

Loo Hoo, I for one hate it. What has happened here, IMO, is the gov’t has learned it can subcontract out things it is prohibited from doing itself.
Mussolini-style fascism. Or corporatism, as Benito himself called it.

ccmask @ 57

Wiki doesn’t mention any marriage or kids for Tucker. Classic Tucker Carlson video here with Jon Stewart.

I’m pretty sure he’s married with children

Loo Hoo. @ 45

What do you guys think about the telecoms getting immunity? I wrote AT&T in December of 2005, and they denied any involvement in illegal wiretaps.

This is a dodge. The immunity he wants is for himself and his cronies. The telecoms are protected from liability by the waivers he gave them when they gave him access, but he is still on the hook for multiple felonies that he has already admitted committing and ordering.

I think he went back with his friend to arrange a threesome.

How much wood would a Tucker tuck if a Tucker could tuck wood?

Hey, whoever posted that Bo Diddley link — that was great!

Thanks, Eureka Springs, *blushes*

As for Craig he can always go back to Idaho and write his memoirs. Suggested title:

In-stalled: The low down on my life on the down low.

Jay @ 54

I love that Tucker’s dad was once U.S. ambassador to the Seychelles. What, Barbados wasn’t available?

More creative banking in the Seychelles….

Elliott @ 59

ccmask @ 57

Wiki doesn’t mention any marriage or kids for Tucker. Classic Tucker Carlson video here with Jon Stewart.

I’m pretty sure he’s married with children

Usually wiki mentions that stuff. Under family it only lists that he is a son.

Millineryman @ 61

I think he went back with his friend to arrange a threesome.

MM, you’re bad

RonD @ 58

Loo Hoo. @ 45

What do you guys think about the telecoms getting immunity?

Loo Hoo, I for one hate it. What has happened here, IMO, is the gov’t has learned it can subcontract out things it is prohibited from doing itself.
Mussolini-style fascism. Or corporatism, as Benito himself called it.

Something is very wrong, no? I don’t want to hear any democrats saying 9/11!!! FISA was alive and well.

Storm coming through… this CTFP is powering donw till it passes.

Tucker tidbits:

AKA Tucker Swanson McNear Carlson

Born: 16-May-1969
Birthplace: San Francisco, CA

Jay @ 54

I love that Tucker’s dad was once U.S. ambassador to the Seychelles.

My dream job! White sharkskin suits and breakfast at 4pm with a seabr*eze coming through the window….

Ok, I’m back.

SeamusD @ 60

Loo Hoo. @ 45

What do you guys think about the telecoms getting immunity? I wrote AT&T in December of 2005, and they denied any involvement in illegal wiretaps.

This is a dodge. The immunity he wants is for himself and his cronies. The telecoms are protected from liability by the waivers he gave them when they gave him access, but he is still on the hook for multiple felonies that he has already admitted committing and ordering.

He meaning Bush? Cheney? More likely both?

Only libruls get axed for bad ratings.

Elliott @ 66

Millineryman @ 61

I think he went back with his friend to arrange a threesome.

MM, you’re bad

Not really, I’ve been around enough closet queens in my life as a gay man to see through the bullshit.

Steve Talbert @ 69

Tucker tidbits:

AKA Tucker Swanson McNear Carlson

Born: 16-May-1969
Birthplace: San Francisco, CA

I’m impressed. Four last names. It’s like he’s self-incorporated.

ccmask @ 65

Elliott @ 59

I’m pretty sure he’s married with children

Usually wiki mentions that stuff. Under family it only lists that he is a son.

He’s got a wife Susan and four kids.

montag @ 56

Hugh @ 51

If Warner thought so much of the troops he would be pushing to get them out of Iraq yesterday. Instead he whimpers about 5,000 out maybe by Christmas. Also when a Republican tells you it is not about politics, especially one who has spent nearly 30 years in the Senate, it is a good time to start checking yourself for stab wounds.

Anyone want to start a pool on how many defense/aerospace corporate boards Warner ends up on once his waiting period is up?

Well, as long as senility is not an impediment, I expect quite a few.

Tom Delay WPITW

Eureka Springs @ 37

Wow. Look at what happened in Kansas.

Kansas governor signs executive order banning discrimination
Body: Kansas governor signs executive order banning discrimination in the workplace

Just in time for the federal Labor Day holiday, this morning, Kansas governor Kathleen Sebelius signed an executive order that will prohibit discrimination against GLBT state employees.

The executive order, which takes effect immediately, will protect more than 37,000 Kansas state employees from being fired due to their sexual orientation or gender identity.

Wow.
Even Kansas isn’t Kansas any more.

Hugh @ 63

Thanks, Eureka Springs, *blushes*

As for Craig he can always go back to Idaho and write his memoirs. Suggested title:

In-stalled: The low down on my life on the down low.

Leave Larry alone. We’re not privy to all that went down.

Hugh @ 63

Thanks, Eureka Springs, *blushes*

As for Craig he can always go back to Idaho and write his memoirs. Suggested title:

In-stalled: The low down on my life on the down low.

HA! Have you hit 400, Hugh?

Loo Hoo. @ 45

What do you guys think about the telecoms getting immunity? I wrote AT&T in December of 2005, and they denied any involvement in illegal wiretaps.

In my considered opinion…Nope. No private entity should get protection for allowing themselves to be used by governmental entities to spy. Period. That would make them an arm of the government, which is pretty difficult since they are publicly traded companies. So, in my opinion, any company that did so should have to carry the exposure to getting their butts kicked big time in the courts.

Steve Talbert @ 69

Tucker tidbits:

AKA Tucker Swanson McNear Carlson

Born: 16-May-1969
Birthplace: San Francisco, CA

that’s some name!

myiq2xu @ 71

Only libruls get axed for bad ratings.

More like (if the reference is to Donahue) getting axed for good ratings….

Elliott @ 81

that’s some name!

brother named Buckley, btw..

Mods-did I say something wrong? I’m sorry.

I for one say ditch him. He’s an arrogant little twit who really has nothing interesting to say.

OT: Anybody have any suggestions for helping out my 7yr. old chocolate lab who has started to struggle with some serious limps in her hind legs over the last month or so. Looks like she’s got dysplasia and I’m bummed out. Have read that Vitamin C supplements might help?

Blub @ 83

Elliott @ 81

that’s some name!

brother named Buckley, btw..

that’s funny, but really it’s a shame for the kids

Loo Hoo. @ 79

HA! Have you hit 400, Hugh?

I still have a ways to go. I sent item 242 (about the breastfeeding scandal) to selise earlier today and it should be up in a bit.

It’s like he’s self-incorporated.

Good one, Montag!

Elliott @ 74

ccmask @ 65

Usually wiki mentions that stuff. Under family it only lists that he is a son.

He’s got a wife Susan and four kids.

My bad. I’m surprised wiki doesn’t have it unless he scrubbed it for safety reasons.

JD21 @ 85

I for one say ditch him. He’s an arrogant little twit who really has nothing interesting to say.

tell MSNBC that

MSNBC
viewerservices@msnbc.com
MSNBC TV
One MSNBC Plaza
Secaucus, N.J. 07094

Loo Hoo. @ 70

SeamusD @ 60

This is a dodge. The immunity he wants is for himself and his cronies. The telecoms are protected from liability by the waivers he gave them when they gave him access, but he is still on the hook for multiple felonies that he has already admitted committing and ordering.

He meaning Bush? Cheney? More likely both?

His entire administration and the enablers in career government jobs. If he can get Congress to give immunity to the telecoms, then it would be much more difficult to prosecute anyone in NSA, FBI, and executive branch of 4th Amendment related offenses.

SeamusD @ 60

This is a dodge. The immunity he wants is for himself and his cronies. The telecoms are protected from liability by the waivers he gave them when they gave him access, but he is still on the hook for multiple felonies that he has already admitted committing and ordering.

Possible. But in the bids we worked on the telecoms were faced with a government requirement for “legal intercept” and made us include functionality that met that requirement in our switch and network bid responses. We did argue at lunch about if the government requirement met constitutional standards for privacy and civil rights and if this left the telecom hanging in the legal wind, but we simply couldn’t answer a bid without providing the intercept functionality, so we figured out how to do it. Even if the president gave written waivers, the telecoms might be seen as liable enough to be massively sued, and that would mean unacceptable risk loss, plus the legal costs.

Flush Three Times –

GOoPer waste always plugs up the toobz –

Elliott @ 74

ccmask @ 65

Usually wiki mentions that stuff. Under family it only lists that he is a son.

Did you see this from Elliot’s link?

He’s got a wife Susan and four kids.

[Asked by Elle magazine, “If you had to spend the rest of your life as a woman, who would you be?”] “Elizabeth Birch of the Human Rights Campaign, because you’d be presiding over an organization of thousands of lesbians, some of them quite good-looking.” [The follow-up question: “What do women want?”] “They want to be listened to, protected, and amused. And they want to be spanked vigorously every once in a while.”

Loo Hoo. @ 45

What do you guys think about the telecoms getting immunity? I wrote AT&T in December of 2005, and they denied any involvement in illegal wiretaps.

Just as I said about the immunity given in the “It’s Ok to Torture” bill, immunity is not given to folks who are innocent.

It is only given to folks who break laws…like criminals.

That said again, send those suckers to jail!

(((((JANE!)))))

Yeah, I saw it LooHoo. I stand corrected :))

Loo Hoo. @ 95

Elliott @ 74

Did you see this from Elliot’s link?

He’s got a wife Susan and four kids.

[Asked by Elle magazine, “If you had to spend the rest of your life as a woman, who would you be?”] “Elizabeth Birch of the Human Rights Campaign, because you’d be presiding over an organization of thousands of lesbians, some of them quite good-looking.” [The follow-up question: “What do women want?”] “They want to be listened to, protected, and amused. And they want to be spanked vigorously every once in a while.”

OMG!

allan_in_upstate @ 78

Hugh @ 63

Thanks, Eureka Springs, *blushes*

As for Craig he can always go back to Idaho and write his memoirs. Suggested title:

In-stalled: The low down on my life on the down low.

Leave Larry alone. We’re not privy to all that went down.

True. I’m not sure I want to know all the ins and outs of his private life.

marksb @ 93

…Even if the president gave written waivers, the telecoms might be seen as liable enough to be massively sued, and that would mean unacceptable risk loss, plus the legal costs.

And this is a problem?

Jay @ 87

OT: Anybody have any suggestions for helping out my 7yr. old chocolate lab who has started to struggle with some serious limps in her hind legs over the last month or so. Looks like she’s got dysplasia and I’m bummed out. Have read that Vitamin C supplements might help?

Had a golden with hip dysplasia diagnosed at 2. The vet told me no exercise and buffered aspirin as needed. I started crying because lack of exercise would cause him to die early. The dog lived until he was 16. Let the dog tell you how often he needs buffered aspirin, to much can cause your dog to feel better than he really is.

marksb @ 93

SeamusD @ 60

This is a dodge. The immunity he wants is for himself and his cronies. The telecoms are protected from liability by the waivers he gave them when they gave him access, but he is still on the hook for multiple felonies that he has already admitted committing and ordering.

Possible. But in the bids we worked on the telecoms were faced with a government requirement for “legal intercept” and made us include functionality that met that requirement in our switch and network bid responses. We did argue at lunch about if the government requirement met constitutional standards for privacy and civil rights and if this left the telecom hanging in the legal wind, but we simply couldn’t answer a bid without providing the intercept functionality, so we figured out how to do it. Even if the president gave written waivers, the telecoms might be seen as liable enough to be massively sued, and that would mean unacceptable risk loss, plus the legal costs.

I think that the Fed gov would end up indemnifying the telecoms. That’s what a lot of lawyers at TNH seem to believe, and also feel that Bush is pushing for amnesty for the telecoms knowing all along that he has already indemnified them, but that Congress doesn’t know that.

For some random Friday Night wonderfulness. Apparently, all those things are driven just by the wind.

I learned a long time ago corporate media does not use ratings to justify their programing, they use the message

for instance, rush limbaugh had 0 listeners and they went national with him, they saturated the airwaves and he gathered followers

their is some moron that sounds like he has no followers out here in new york, his name is mark leVIN

the man has no clue, sounds like a unik, everyone I know hates him, even the concervatives, yet he gets air time

when a station has advertisers that don’t have a product you can buy, all they care about is the message, the more they get their message repeated the more legitimate it sounds

they get a dialogue where none should exist, they get people to defend them too

let’s take the oil industry

I hear people actually advocating that we should allow refineries to run without regulation, I hear people advocating raping alaska even though it would only give us about 6 months of oil

I hear people upset corporations have to spend money cleaning up the crap they dump in my kids air

all because of the message…they don’t care how many people listen to the message at any one time slot all they care about is how often they can get their propaganda repeated

it’s not about the ratings anymore

new post

I noticed Tucker has a wide stance.

New Thread upstairs.

Thanks JPL. 16 years, that’s encouraging.

OT There is another tropical storm that has formed.

http://www.goes.noaa.gov/FULLDISK/GEIR.JPG

It is that bit hitting South America and is expected to shoot into the Caribbean initially at least on a storm track similar to Dean.

GordonM @ 105

For some random Friday Night wonderfulness. Apparently, all those things are driven just by the wind.

well that was a gem to share, thank you!

Loo Hoo. @ 45

What do you guys think about the telecoms getting immunity? I wrote AT&T in December of 2005, and they denied any involvement in illegal wiretaps.

Loo Hoo: I am curious about the Qwest CEO (Vecchio or ?) who refused to cooperate with the government. He is now in jail for insider trading. Was that investigation payback for not giving up the personal info of his customers? I don’t know the timing.
Karen

Eli — rail car trucks. I see it now.

E-mail sent.

the only thing left to do with this piece of phony shit is to shun him and any sponsor that supports his crap. A total shun. Once you commit to shunning him- then notify msnbc of your action. Its all we have left.
I stopped watching him and I can trell you all– It is easy!

ST. Geordakine01 @ 20

Blub @ 17

High school

Deerfield, then St George’s for high school, then Trinity College in CT after that. I know where he went to lower and middle school too, but I’ll keep that one to myself :P Suffice it to say, he never saw the inside of a public school

I assume that St George’s is some type of waspish/preppy haven?

We did have one or two Tuckery types at the military high school I attended in the late ’60s. They either changed dramatically or they didn’t hang around too long.

St. Georges is a good-quality second-tier prep school in Newport, RI. Pretty social, pretty comfortable, a haven for trustifarian/glibertarian types. Much easier to get away with frequent pot smoking there than at Deerfield, which is the only reason I can think of why he ended up there.

What’s this about Republican congressman Patrick McHenry of North Carolina and a gay love triangle murder-suicide?

I think Shuster should have Tucker’s slot. He can speak English, does investigation and is impressive. He deserves his own show.

marksb @ 94

SeamusD @ 60

… The telecoms are protected from liability by the waivers he gave them when they gave him access, but he is still on the hook for multiple felonies that he has already admitted committing and ordering.

Possible. But in the bids we worked on the telecoms were faced with a government requirement for “legal intercept” and made us include functionality that met that requirement in our switch and network bid responses. … if the government requirement met constitutional standards for privacy and civil rights and if this left the telecom hanging in the legal wind, but we simply couldn’t answer a bid without providing the intercept functionality, so we figured out how to do it. Even if the president gave written waivers, the telecoms might be seen as liable enough to be massively sued, and that would mean unacceptable risk loss, plus the legal costs.

Since FISA allows the government to eavesdrop for some time (what is it, 72 hrs?) without a warrant, then how can a corp deny access in that time? I think they can easily claim protection in that way, at least for the 72 hrs.

My sense of things is that during this Bush era there have been a few changes in eavesdropping techniques and in adaption to FISA gray areas. Because of that it makes sense to me to let telcoms off the hook for past collaborations with Bushies. But, there’s no way Bush gets a free ride. He’s gotta give Dems a packet of nice legislation to show contrition.

If he won’t give something, then telcoms might have their arms twisted (gently) to help put a bite on Bush. And, given their real reluctance to go along with Bush and endanger themselves, I can easily imagine them helping out generously.

Then, after FISA is really fixed by Dems, all bets are off and telcoms have to adhere to the rules very scrupulously.

Nobody wants to see telcoms hurt in any big way. They’re too valuable to America. But, like the mortgage lenders, no one of them is ‘too big to fail’.

Jay @ 21

…and you have to believe that half of Tucker’s audience is watching for the sheer sport of mocking his pathetic…well…everything about that little twerp is pathetic. I generally can’t watch for more than a few minutes before his whiny, pompous, blatant lies make me sorry I turned on the tube in the first place

I truly believe that TV is not far behind newspapers from a viability standpoint as a source of news for Americans that care about more than their own little universe. The toobz have changed everything. They must remain ours (as in We the People).

At this time of day the typical Tucker viewer is someone that turned on the TV to see where the market closed and left it on as a backdrop while doing something else. No one with any sense would actually sit down for the express purpose of watching him. His off the cuff statements are so poorly reasonsed and his questions so obviously construed for a specific response, it is pathetic. If he didn’t very wealthy influential GOP parents, you would never see his mug on the screen. It’s a shame really. If MSNBC doesn’t give Schuster a show soon, I bet someone else will. He has real journalistic talent and brains.

OK, I guess I’m ever the contrarian, but I don’t like the precedent of going after Carlson because he made a ridiculous claim about attacking a would-be pedophile in a public restroom. It makes us look as intolerant as the wingnuts like to claim.

Let him quietly find the exit as his numbers continue to suck, and instead apply positive pressure on MSNBC to air more actual journalism instead of conservative and establishment wankfests like Tucker and Hardball. Trying to take scalps after stupid remarks is a tool that’s best reserved for the most egregious offenses, lest the network suits grow numb to our constant outrage.

Or, at least, that’s my view.

MSNBC — FIRE TUCKER CARLSON –

Please do yourselves and America a favor and axe the low-rated (for a reason) Tucker Carlson. He comes across a spoiled, supercilious son of a rich, right-wing idiot. (And I believe that’s true to historical fact, as well.)

This latest bit of gay-bashing is only the tip of Tucker’s arrogance and ignorance (and cowardice, too). He had to come back later with reinforcements to beat up the man he thought was “cruising” him in the public restroom. How very brave of him. He couldn’t face this man by himself, so he brought his own “little army” of self-righteous hetero thugs to bang the man’s head against the wall.

Strange that though Tucker supported the War on Iraq, he failed to volunteer himself for military service. Quel courage! He could go with a gang to attack one single gay man, but he couldn’t bring his own private band of gay-bashing friends to do battle with Saddam. He wants the poor, the black, the brown, and the rural white to fight all of our oil imperialist battles. Homosexuals, he’s happy to attack, provided he has thugs at his back.

Like the formerly bow-tied preppie punk and total weenie he is, he goes on TV to denounce Democrats and homosexuals and true patriots. The man (?) has no shame.

Get rid of this rich punk. Face it, he’s a total, terminal dweeb. He’s a loser and he’s polluting the American airwaves.

Run Keith Olbermann in his spot. At least you’ll get better ratings. Plus, a smarter show.

And you’ll be able to sleep better at night, knowing that even fewer people will be polluted by the thoughts of “moneyed scum” like Tucker Carlson.

Sincerely,

Jon Stewart was right. Tucker Carlson’s a dick.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFQFB5YpDZE

His CHOSEN onscreen persona seems like a cross between an third string prep school lacrosse midfielder with a chip on his shoulder “Francis” from Peewee’s Big Adventure.

I’ve never understood why he has this career. I can’t think of anyone of any political stripe who would admit watching him.

Tucker is where he is only because of his Daddy. And being acosted in a men’s room by a homosexual? It couldn’t have happened. His Mommy wouldn’t let him go in alone. He is trying to build a “macho” image. That is analogous to making chicken salad out of chicken sh*t.

It’s nearly impossible for me to keep my dinner down when listening to this whiny twit’s voice. Here’s another vote to put David Schuster in this moron’s time slot!

Jane Hamsher @ 12

ccmask @ 9

I happen to think that Tucker made it up to be cool.

A distinct possibility. Which gives you some kind of yardstick to measure what a dweeb he really is.

Of course he made it up on the fly, to prove how manly he is. Literally everybody else knows better.
What’s really amazing is that he has two time slots to drag down the network. Either he knows somebody’s private stuff, or he works really cheap. Which is it?

Jane I’ve got an idea for a show to save his career:

Tucker Carlson’s Tearoom Team.

Every night Tucker and his Big Strapping Thoroughly Heterosexual Fraternity Brothers will station themselves in a different public restroom to make sure nothing that might disturb their Racial Tools is going on.

It’s a surefire ratings winner.

You know being a thickly inbred twit does not = gay. Who IS his daddy I understand this Is who he owes his employability too. I have never been able to fathom how or why he he has managed to get jobs offer his opinion in the particularly obsequious way he does. This last outburst should terminal. I believe he was lying…The hazard of live TV and recording equipment.

Carlson attended St. George’s School, a boarding school in Middletown, Rhode Island. After graduation, he majored in history at the private liberal arts Trinity College in Hartford, Connecticut, but did not receive a degree.

This goofball doesn’t even have a college degree.
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