Gah. Ack. Argh. I was all set to write about how after the disastrous NIE and the disastrous GAO report sneak preview, that anyone still waiting for General Petraeus to present his report (in much the same way that Wes Craven “presented” Mind Ripper) is plainly seeking an excuse to keep the war going.
But then I encountered something which blasted my mind beyond all capacity for rational thought, and which I must now share with all of you. It’s kind of a public service thing. (Your eye twitches will be reward enough.)
I give you the Turd Blossom himself, on the job to the very end:
The Washington Post scorned President Truman as a “spoilsman” who “underestimated the people’s intelligence.” New York Times columnist James Reston wrote off President Eisenhower as “a tired man in a period of turbulence.” At the end of President Reagan’s second term, the New York Times dismissed him as “simplistic” and a “lazy and inattentive man.”
These harsh judgments, made in the moment, have not weathered well over time. Fortunately, while contemporary observers have a habit of getting presidents wrong, history tends to be more accurate.
You know, the media had bad things to say about Hoover and Nixon, too… (and the NYT was right about Reagan). Criticism doesn’t always mean you’re a misunderstood genius. Sometimes it just means you suck.
President Bush will be viewed as a far-sighted leader who confronted the key test of the 21st century.
He will be judged as a man of moral clarity who put America on wartime footing in the dangerous struggle against radical Islamic terrorism.
“Moral clarity.” Wow. Fighting radical Islamic terrorists by invading a country that didn’t harbor any; by torturing and killing innocent people, or imprisoning them indefinitely without legal recourse; by illegally spying on your own citizens – this must be some new definition of “moral clarity” that I was not previously aware of.
Following the horrors of 9/11, this president changed American foreign policy by declaring terror sponsors responsible for the deeds of those they shelter, train, and fund. America, he said, will not wait until dangers fully materialize with attacks on our homeland before confronting those threats.
He almost makes attacking countries for no reason sound like a good thing.
President Bush will be seen as a compassionate leader who used America’s power for good.
I swear I am not making this up.
While most of the globe ignored Sudan and Darfur or refused to act, this president labeled the violence there genocide — and pressed world leaders to take action.
Yes, when no-one else would act, Dubya boldly… urged them to. What courage! He probably urged people to enlist for Vietnam, too.
The whole piece is basically a laundry list of these bogus accomplishments, like the economy’s amazing growth since August 2003 (that’s a funny choice of dates!), and Dubya’s bold vision on Social Security reform which will someday be proved fucking right. And then there’s this amazing paragraph near the very end:
I have known George W. Bush for nearly 34 years and have had the privilege of watching from nearby as history has placed its demands on him and our country. I know his humility and decency, his intelligence and thoughtfulness, his respect for every person he comes in contact with, his unwavering commitment to principle-based decision-making, and the quiet and compassionate hearts of the man and his graceful wife, Laura.
I have no idea who he’s talking about, unless he’s somehow confused Dubya with Jimmy Carter (I totally make that same mistake all the time).
Curiously, Karl didn’t mention New Orleans or Valerie Plame at all. I guess some things just can’t be spun.
(h/t TPM)



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wha?
Zed?
wow, first, zed cool
Zed.
Eli!!
Hiya, Matt!
oh well.
Eli,
I suspect KKKarl will be just a pone call away from George. Security blanket and thumbsucking kinda thing.
AZ Matt @ 8
I’m sure. Dubya’s naked without him.
Other than Bush, Rove has hardly done anything. His ego is on the line with W’s all the way. And I believe whoever it was who said that Rove (instead of working on dirty tricks for other Repugs) will spend the rest of his life trying to convince any moron who will listen that Bush was a great president.
Albatross! Get yer Albatross! Good fresh Albatross!
Eli @ 9
Queasy picturing that! For Laura’s eyes only.
Sonds like Rove is applying for Tony Snow’s job.
Hey Karl, That’s a wrap.
But this is actually how the true believers think. Every time I encounter it (although less often these days)in someone, it sends a shiver down my spine. It’s creepy. But there seems to be no getting through.
It’s getting awfully crowded with all the Texans hiding from subpoenas at the Harriet Meyers safe house.
AZ Matt @ 11
Not anymore. Barney, maybe. Just maybe.
Creepy Creepy Republicans just give me a headache with their twisted logic. Deep down inside, both the BoyKing and the TurdBlossom know that they are pale imitations of real men.
Eli on a Friday night! woo hooo!
What I find really sad is that they seem to really believe this stuff. Do you think when Karl and Al get back out into the world a bit more, they will be shocked (clutching pearls) that most of the country thinks thier hero is the Worst. President. Ever.? I mean how will they deal?
I know, I know, Gooper Think Tanks and lots of money.
Sad.
“I swear I am not making this up.”
You have to be! No rational sane human being could say this stuff…oh, my bad. *g*
GordonM @ 10
Ah, The Rime Of The Ancient Ratfucker, as he wanders the earth forever with a little Dubyatross hung around his neck…
AZ Matt @ 8
Ring! Ring! Ring!
Rove: Hullo.
Dubya: I… I… I… I… uh… uh… uh….
Rove: Take it easy, George, your brain is here now.
Dubya: Oh, thank God. I was really confused there for a… uh… a… uh… uh….
Rove: A minute.
Dubya: It’s been really… uh… uh… uh….
Rove: Difficult without me around?
Dubya: Uh, yeah, that thing….
Well, you get the idea….
sorta EPU’d – I didn’t post it on the previous thread, ’cause I saw Eli’s post come up –
To Whom it may concern,
Tucker Carlson’s statements about assaulting a person in a restroom (or did he merely accost somebody) are cause for major alarm. Unless he can prove the incident(s) happened as he described in the second instance of reference – including arrest and conviction of the person he referenced – his statements are egregious and should be cause for termination. I do hope you already have somebody investigating the truth of his allegations, because many others already are.
Sincerely,
[ET]
Oh that’s funny.
Doesn’t it make you wonder how people can see things and see such completely different things… or they can see the same and can spin it to suit.
Didn’t these guys invent the concept of spin?
I’d call Rover the spinmeister extroadinaire.
I’m told by those on the right that what I see is through a left filter. It’s they who see it like it is.
I don’t believe them. But they believe themselves. They really do.
Hiya, LL!
Yeah, I know they believe it. Or else they steadfastly pretend to believe it to justify their thirst for blood, money, and power.
Hi Eli, sorry I’m tardy *s*
Heh. Hiya, Elliott.
eli, it’s exactly what I posted at the end of the previous thread;
they don’t care one stitch how factual their claims are, all they want to do is repeat these claims often enough for people to think there is a debate
there is no debate, this president is depraved, has taken our country into the depths of depravity, has squandered our investments, spent our armed forces, trashed our integrity and waste our influence
he has facilitated terrorism, devided this our people, brought us to the brink of nuclear war, insighted confrontation
yet if they say the reverse they create the illusion that what I just wrote is some kind of opinion instead of documented fact
that is what they do, and the more false their claims the more they will repeat them
Smgumby @ 14
When I run into it these days, I ask a simple question: “Why are you in love with the biggest piece of shit on the planet?”
It’s a conversation stopper, but, then, I don’t have to hear the poor schmo go on and on about his Bush fetish.
I caught some of Tony Snow’s presser this afternoon and he was talking about Boosh in pretty much the same manner. And I just laughed and laughed…
zennurse @ 20
The only people they interact with in Paraguay will be well recompensed to behave with appropriate awe.
Montag,
I think you could sell that in Hollywood – He-Man With No Brain!
DNC: Americans Won’t be Throwing Karl Rove a Goodbye Party
Press release was issued today by the Democratic National Committee
snip
With Karl Rove packing up his desk for his last day today and the
Department of Justice’s Inspector General investigating if Alberto Gonzales
misled Congress, it’s just another reminder that George Bush put the
Republican Party’s interests ahead of the interests of the American people.
Undoubtedly, business as usual will continue at the White House, even with
the departure of these “loyal Bushies.”snip
more at the link
The Bay Bridge is closing:
http://freewayblogger.blogspot…..osure.html
For me, that’s like the Superbowl.
Excellent post and very annoying that this man has caused so much mischief and not paid a price for his bad behavior.
Moral Clarity, not quite. I think that Rove meant Amoral Gibberish…
I wonder if shrink wrapping his car had to do with bundles of shrink wrapped cash? Inside joke?
Moral clarity is shorthand for fanatic.
Re Darfur, from my scandals list:
Don’t know that Bush ever called it genocide. But it has been going on for 3 years since these statements. If Bush recognized that it was a genocide, why has he not stopped it?
perris @ 28
This says it all.
scarlet p. @ 34
707! you go girl!
AZ Matt @ 32
Brain-Eaters From Texas! Rated PG. :)
scarlet p. @ 34
looking forward to seeing the results, scarlet p.
AZ Matt @ 8
Same job, different office – is my guess.
Eli @ 39
sadly
Can anyone tell me why MSNBC has 2 Lockup shows on now; back-to-back on a Friday night? From 9:00 to 11:00.
Hugh @ 38
Dude, he told the other governments to stop it. What more could you ask?
AZ Matt @ 11
I was already queasy reading the post.
montag @ 41
Good working title!
Fern @ 47
I was keeping it short, too. It could easily have been 3 or 4 times as long.
Also I would like to say that up to now I have been a skeptic on war with Iran. But given the recent bellicose statements of Bush and Cheney, the Democrats penchant for caving in, and the complete and absolute disconnect from reality that Rove’s statements represent, I have in the last week decided that there is now a better than even chance that Bush will attack Iran before he leaves office.
SCARLET!!
ccmask @ 45
holiday rerun weekend maybe?
Elliott @ 44
Why hasn’t someone done a remake of “Elmer Gantry” with Bush in Lancaster’s role and Rove in the role of Jean Simmons?
Gad. Poor Laura.
Eli @ 46
Why couldn’t he have told them to invade Iraq instead? Then neither they nor we would be there.
Hugh @ 50
Between declaring the Revolutionary Guard terrorists, periodically arresting any Iranians they find in Iraq for any reason, and Glenn Greenwald’s analysis of Dubya latest speech on the subject, it’s pretty hard to see how that’s *not* the plan.
Ironically, the only obstacle is probably the fact that our military is *already* overextended in Iraq.
montag @ 53
I think there’s been very little performance art, that I know of, revealing this administration. Would like to see more, it can be so effective and so persuasive…
perris at 28: in the last thread, you said “I hear people advocating raping alaska“. Hmmm. You do realize that there are Yankee fans in Alaska, don’t you?
EPU’ed from last thread.
OT There is another tropical storm that has formed in the Atlantic.
http://www.goes.noaa.gov/FULLDISK/GEIR.JPG
(this link changes over time)
It is that bit hitting South America and is expected to shoot into the Caribbean initially at least on a storm track similar to Dean.
ccmask @ 45
You know, I was fascinated by these lock up shows the first two times I saw them. Then they are all alike. No interviews of the perhaps wrongly charged. Just the admitted crazies.
montag @ 53
I was watching the Rose Tattoo yesterday morning with Lancaster. That was great.
montag @ 53
Done in a comedic way?
Hugh @ 55
Because he’s a big respecter of sovereignty. Even if he doesn’t know what it is.
Eli @ 63
you just can’t make this guy up
AZ Matt @ 62
Over-the-top serious. So bad, it’s campy. Think of the speeches alone. :)
I’m surprised Karl didn’t mention his Master’s amazing grasp of history, or his impecable manners and how he always makes us proud at foreign meetings, or how he’s raised America’s prestige everywhere in the world. I’m also shocked he didn’t mention his compassion for children without health care, or stuck in attics in a drowning city. Why is there no mention of the man’s rhetorical flare, his ability to refashion familiar aphorisims to give them new meaning, like fool me once . . . can’t fool me again, or whatever. And how could Karl forget the man’s incredible respect for the Constitution, the rule of law, and American civil liberties, or how he worships the Fourth Amendment, and the establishment clause, or how he insists on allowing dissenters to attend his public events because he honors free speech. If Hugh were here, I could go an for another 245 items . . . but
Karl was obviously slipping.
montag @ 41
Oh, no. This administration is well aware of the threat.
Elliott @ 52
I guess I just don’t see the attraction. I guess there must be an audience for it. (prisoners)
Eli @ 49
In that case I appreciate your act of mercy.
Does he really believe this stuff? I can’t imagine that he does.
Eli @ 56
Where is the CENTCOM commander Adm. Fallon, he said he would quit rather than attack Iran. Been mighty quiet lately. It’s been all generals Petraeus, Odierno, Lynch, the propagandist Bergner, and Crocker. Is he hiding out? Gates has been pretty invisible too for that matter.
zennurse @ 20
Right, that’s how they deal. Stay in another bubble. They avoid talking to average people as much as possible, just like they have all along. Helps maintain the delusion, and keeps them from coming to terms with what they have actually done, and what their real motives were. Lovely.
Scarecrow @ 66
nice wrap up, SC
Good one, Scarecrow!
Scarecrow @ 66
And that he’s read more books than any other Preznident who’s also fighting a global war on terra and comforting the mothers.
montag @ 65
Speaking of Bush and casting…
1,584 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND..
Citizen Eli and the Firepup Patriots:
OK folks, with the corporate anarchists loose on the body of our democracy there is something we can do, collectively, to euthanize this vile force: we can brand the Republican Party with the label “fascist” at every opportunity. Every Democratic Party spokesperson, every progressive blogger, every telephone call to talk shows should use the term “fascist Republican Party” much like the wingnuts shills use “Democrat Party”.
We must make the terms Republican and fascist synonyms…labeling the party for the balance of the 21st Century. We have been through the intellectual and academic exercises of definition and analysis…now we project the brand into history.
This is something all of us can do everyday…it won’t take long to contaminate the word “Republican” with the results of it’s actions.
KEEP THE FAITH AND DO IT TO THEM BEFORE THEY DO IT TO US AGAIN!!
Did Rove post that on his blog hoping to drive traffic and get a lot of linkies from the people we all know and avoid? Did he really thing it would change any rational human being’s mind? (Oh, never mind, it was addressed primarily to the 27%…..)
Scarecrow @ 66
No surprise, he’s just been distracted by the horrible treatment he’s been getting in the media lately. Enough to make any good person lose track, even plead guilty by mistake.
As for Karl, he’s like spider as far as I’m concerned. I’d rather see him, in plain sight, than have him scuttle off and lurk somewhere. And off the public payroll? I doubt it.
Marion in Savannah @ 77
and there ain’t nothin’ rational about those minds, the 27%.
montag @ 74
Damn, forgot about what a great reader his is. He’s the leading interpreter of My Pet Goat.
carolyn urban @ 79
Spider? Spiders are far too noble – I went in a slightly different direction.
President Bush will be viewed as a far-sighted leader who confronted the key test of the 21st century.
He will be judged as a man of moral clarity who put America on wartime footing in the dangerous struggle against radical Islamic terrorism.
or pouring gasoline on the fire.
actually, i’m just trying to be snarky, but i think that gasoline part is significant.
LOL. Only discovering he’s no longer a cockroach is definitely the fodder of dreams for Karl.
Jim Risch, the guy supposedly to take Craig’s spot in the Senate.
On May 26, 2006, Risch became Governor of Idaho when Kempthorne resigned to become the U.S. Secretary of the Interior. Risch served out the remaining seven months of Kempthorne’s term, which ended in January 2007.
In August 2006, Risch called a special session of the Idaho Legislature to consider his proposed property tax reform bill, entitled the Property Tax Relief Act of 2006.
Eli @ 82
Amazing photo at the top, eli — what is it?
charley @ 83
Oh, it is significant… keeps oil prices up….
Scarecrow @ 66
Re our prestige, I put a small table in item 37 of my scandals list about that. I was doing some backfilling this week mostly in the items from 30-40. I didn’t realize I was doing this. It just sort of turned out that way. I would put the table here but wordpress is not very good with them.
Well, roaches are nasty, but then there’s always
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_ant
Between the two, I’d rather have roaches…
Hugh @ 88
can’t thank you often enough for the wonderful Hugh’s List!
ccmask @ 61
more to the point would be that movie with peter selers
I forget the title of the movie but selers was a dimwit gardener that was turned in president
it was a rediculous comedy that everyone laughed because of how unlikely the events
yet here we are today
Hugh @ 88
Keep going, Hugh. You realize you’re creating the unofficial but accurate Bush Library?
Scarecrow @ 86
Thanks! Um, they rotate, so it’s hard to say. Might have been the railroad car wheel, or the NYC sculpture (if it was red), or the elevator light, or the overpass bolts.
perris @ 91
Being There.
perris @ 91
“Being There.”
Presents a real casting problem. Chauncey Gardner was quite a bit more articulate than Bush….
Oh, my… Hugh…. THANKS! And thanks again. I think we’d all be much happier if you hadn’t had to do all that amazing work…
Eli @ 56
According to the “Flyboys”, this is a gross misstatement of the facts:
“No boots on the ground are required. Airpower alone can do it all. Trust us. Have we ever been wrong?”
As a great many of the higher-ups in the Air Force leadership positions these days are right-wing fundamentalist Xtians (seems to be a requirement for promotions, doncha know?), you can be sure that these words are coming directly from doG’s mouth to the Flyboys’ ears.
Now if you were Junya, who would you be listening to?
perris @ 91
Being There.
Only instead of “I like to watch,” it’s more like “I like to blow shit up.”
Mad Dogs @ 97
Of course. What could possibly go wrong?
just wondering…
does the Project for a New American Century actually refer to NORTH America?
further to that… I wonder if many members of PNAC and Bush loyalists are currently shopping for land in Paraguay….
and, if they are, does the U.S. have an extradition treaty with Paraguay?
like I said… just wondering…
Mad Dogs @ 97
Well, you know SAC’s motto: “Peace Is Our Profession. War is just our hobby.”
Scarecrow @ 81
It is one of the great books of our times. The allegorical meanings alone of it are endless. We are all My Pet Goat.
Hugh @ 102
Bush & the Republicans are more like The Very Hungry Caterpillar.
Except they *stay* caterpillars.
Thanks all, *more blushes*
We are all in this thing together or until one of us finds the key.
Hugh @ 104
the key is in our Constitution and our hearts.
Eli @ 93
Okay, I see it now: rail car trucks
Dan in Canada @ 100
I doubt they were intending to include you guys.
Paraguay has not signed onto the ICC, and has signed a treaty saying they won’t extradite US citizens to countries with cooties.
Not sure anyone else has been shopping there, but 98,000 acres is 97,999 too many to hold all his friends.
Eli @ 103
If you read it backwards, it says, “Rove is not a genius.”
How did this slip by?
Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney’s national finance committee co-chairman, Alan B. Fabian was, according to an August 9 Associated Press article, “charged in a 23-count indictment unsealed Thursday [August 9] with mail fraud, money laundering, bankruptcy fraud, perjury and obstruction of justice,” NBC, CNN, and Fox News did not air reports or discussions about it during programs available in the Nexis database. The AP reported that Fabian “allegedly ran a scheme to make $32 million in false purchases of computer equipment, spending the money instead on beach real estate and private jet travel.” Fabian resigned from Romney’s finance committee shortly after being indicted, and the Romney campaign said it would return Fabian’s $2,300 contribution, but not, however, “contributions from donors who were recruited by or have ties to Fabian,” as The Boston Globe reported. While Fabian’s indictment has generated some print coverage, it has resulted in no television coverage on news shows airing on NBC, CNN, or prime-time shows broadcast on Fox News, according to a Nexis database search conducted by Media Matters for America on August 31.
History will remember George W. Bush for exactly what he is. A million dead in Iraq. A million missing in Iraq. This is Mr. Bush’s responsibility. He belongs in the figures of infamy section of Madame Tussauds.
GordonM…
hehheh… ‘they won’t extradite US citizens to countries with cooties’
guess they’d be safe then…dunno if any country is truly ‘cootie-free’
carolyn urban @ 79
I’m guessing either the RNC or Bush is paying him far more than he got on the payroll.
Eli @ 103
Yertle the Turtle comes to mind for me, and we all know how that came out:
. . . and today, that great Yertle, that Marvelous He
is king of the mud. That is all he can see.
And the turtles, of course . . . all the turtles are free
as turtles and, maybe, all creatures should be.
When it comes to political writing, Dr Seuss could take Karl Rove three falls out of three.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 110
Yeah, that display would be somethin’… a daisy chain of monsters….
Dan in Canada @ 111
Well, just to be sure, I am sterilizing my mouse and keyboard ;-).
montag @ 114
They could give the Bush administration their own room, really…
Mr. Rove’s “talents” are much in demand. He will be plying his nasty trade for as long as he lives.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 110
Ding
Oklahoma kiddo @ 117
wherever he lives,
Dubai
South America…
Oklahoma kiddo @ 117
Is it bad form to wish ill of the undead?
Eureka Springs @ 109
A Republican and a crook, maybe they thought it was a given. It’s getting hard to see who has the crookedest campaign. Giuliani or Romney? McCain has already won the prize for the most inept.
Eureka Springs @ 109
I remember seeing something about it, I remember the beach real estate and air travel stuff. Was here or Crooks & Liars.
The lady doth protest too much, methinks.
You forgot to give him points for using the word “homeland.”
Turdblossom wrote this? Doesn’t the man have the grace to just slink away with his tail between his legs?
peanutbutter @ 124
That would require some modicum of shame. Shame is not in Frank Luntz’s recommended GOP word list.
peanutbutter @ 124
I give him points for not saying “Fatherland”.
Eureka Springs @ 109
OMG, Eureka Springs. This is HUGE!
montag @ 125
or anywhere in that blockhead being.
BTW GordonM from last thread
GordonM @ 105
Those are wonderful.
carolyn urban @ 79
Though the tale he would spin is not beautiful (though he thinks it is), where oh where is Athena when we need her?
Folks, most of the GOP hate Karl Rove. He used the same dirty campaign tactics on them in the primaries as he used on Dems in the general elections (”what would you think of McCain if you knew he had a black daughter”). He jerrymandered until districts were so dilute they turned Dem. He used wedge issues on Republicans. He used wedge issues on Dems so hard it has ended up fracturing the Repub base.
No, he’s going to write his wishful-thinking memoirs about what a great man W is. He’s so wrapped up in W, there’s nothing left for anyone else.
Hugh @ 129
Oh, wow. I guess now I know what my Monday Media Blogging for next week will be…
Hugh @ 129
Aren’t they cool? Makes me wish I used what mechanical skills I have for more than just fixing things I can’t afford to have someone else fix.
Bill Moyers was just what I needed tonight.
And hugs.
Today was hard.
OT
GordonM @ 133
Thanks for that – it’s fascinating and beautiful. Can’t wait to send it to my granddaughter – she will love it.
WASHINGTON – The Bush administration wants the power to grant legal immunity to telecommunications companies that are slapped with privacy suits for cooperating with the White House’s controversial warrantless eavesdropping program.
The authority would effectively shut down dozens of lawsuits filed against telecommunications companies accused of helping set up the program.
The vaguely worded proposal would shield any person who allegedly provided information, infrastructure or “any other form of assistance” to the intelligence agencies after the Sept. 11, 2001 terror attacks. It covers any classified communications activity intended to protect the country from terrorism.
I’m sure everyone saw ths from raw story but if not;
even reagan aids call our president a mass murderer
a good read
wangdangdoodle @ 134
((((wangdangdoodle))))
wangdangdoodle @ 134
hugs, wdd!
GordonM @ 131
Sadly, they don’t seem to hate him enough to provide the evidence needed to send him to jail for the rest of his miserable life. How is it possible that one person can piss off that many people and there not be some incriminating dirt?
madmommy @ 141
I guess dirt goes both ways.
New Orleans or Valerie Plame? What about Terry Schiavo? He probably still wants to dig up her corpse, stick a pike up her rear end, and jiggle her in the air like a jumping-jack while Laura says “Ma-ma! Ma-ma!” for her.
Giving voice to the voiceless, that’s George W. Bush for you.
Any chance Brian De Palma can help stop the massacre?
Eli @ 142
Which just goes to show that personal embarassment is more important than the fact that the ideals and standards their country was founded on are being trampled to dust.
madmommy @ 141
I think the Bushies adopted–almost right from the start–the Roman principle: it’s better to be feared than to be loved.
That might explain it.
montag @ 146
I’m not entirely sure their base can always tell the difference.
Thanks Ell and pet. Don’t forget to say “I Love You” every day.
Eli @ 147
Well, for the followers, the True Believers, that’s the Daddy Principle at work.
For those in the Outer Party, fear is a great motivator.
taking the dog out for a spin, see you when I get back !
Hugh @ 50
Yes…by fall next year. Ray McGovern has an article on truthout.org.
montag @ 146
Yep, that worked out real well for the Romans. I am so embarassed to have a president who is so proudly ignorant. That he can claim with a straight face to have read “5 Shakespeares” last year, and no one calls him on the BS. This is what we get when people vote for someone they’d like to have a beer with. Screw that-I want a president who is the smartest person in the room, who knows enough to know when to go to experts and really listen to them. Someone who can dine in public without acting like a petulant toddler. I want a president who is too damn busy dealing with serious problems and finding solutions to take naps, or go to bed early, or take more vacation days than any other president in history. Is this too much to ask??
perris @ 138
And another one from a few days ago.
The gist of it: Khalilzad was supposed to go in at the same time as Bremer. Khalilzad would convene loya jirgas to choose a new gov’t. Bremer had lunch with Bush. Khalilzad went to the Netherlands instead. No one else was consulted.
yup, that is pretty sappy stuff, IRT rove speak, tho I must say that hind sight will be clear ;)
madmommy @ 152
No.
Any other questions?
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madmommy @ 152
Well, yeah. Given the magnitude, importance, and complexity of the job, you want someone who is scary, intimidatingly smart.
If you find yourself thinking that you could do a better job as president, that typically means that the country is in deep deep trouble.
SnarKassandra @ 156
Gotta stay away from the coffee this late at night, Cassie.
Peterr @ 155
HAHA! Thanks Peterr
hey! wangdangdoodle, so, I’m beating a retreat thru Jersey when the Boss says, “No!”
http://www.progressivedailybea…..hp?id=1660
Sure, Rove walked away from the White House, but why not? He’s done all the damage he could do on Pennsylvania Avenue …
Think of Karl Rove’s exit from the Bush White House as a little vacation. Between the end of this August and after Giuliani sews up the GOP presidential spot and before the ‘08 Congressional elections get into full-swing, Karl will be chillin’.
George W. Bush’s political career is over, but Karl Rove’s has only just begun. It’ll be HIS job to rescue Bush’s legacy and the only way to do that, will be to make sure that the Democrats can’t undo all of George’s many failures and uncover all “W’s” many crimes. And, ultimately, the ONLY way for Rove to accomplish that, is to get the permanent Republican majority that he set out to impose upon the American people.
i’m not saying she’s right, just a perspective. she is right about giuliani.
Peterr @ 158
Eep.
SnarKassandra @ 156
Evening Cassie!
Peterr @ 155
This has been another episode of “Simple Answers to Simple Questions.” :)
Hey Eli –
I called the political consultants that used to represent our local congresscritter / senate candidate, with an idea to help short circuit the looming recession, induced by the mortgage meltdown.
I left a message on the Rep’s CoS voicemail — I will follow up with other Senators and Reps that are up to speed on the issue.
Saving America is issue # 1 in the New Session —
Bombing Iran is a Very BAD Idea.
The Mission is Saving America — by recruiting REAL bi-partisan support for helping homeowners who face foreclosure, because of their ARM resets.
Helicopter Ben won’t bail us out —
It is up to us — The American People — to persuade our Represenatives and Senators to save America from the fallout of predatory lending, and Wall Street’s complicity in scamming the Global Financial system.
People get ready — it’s time to go to work . . .
no coffee. just chocolate ice cream when they closed the go-kart place because of lightning
I want a president who can speak in complete sentences without cue cards, a teleprompter, or a speechwriter.
And I say that as a former speechwriter.
in addition to the “moral clarity” cognitive discord, I find the “put America on a wartime footing” wet dream of rove and his ilk astounding for its exactly what bush/cheney/rove DIDN’T do. Instead they said for Americans to “go shopping”.
So either rove has NO idea what “being on a wartime footing” is, as in everyone chips in and sacrifices for the war effort, or as is more likely, rove lives in a completely altered reality that normal people can’t see – only those like rove and bush and cheney inhabit their little re-live WWII unreality fantasy.
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charley @ 161
I’d like to think she’s right, but I’m not convinced that if a Democrat gets into the WH, that the congressional Dems don’t just go, “Phew, thank God *that’s* over,” and drop everything.
Eli @ 157
Which reminds of an anecdote about Edward Teller and his Star Wars plans. We all know how effective he was in selling that snake oil to Reagan, but, what few people know is that he tried out his routine on Jimmy Carter first.
Carter ate him for lunch.
Well, yeah. Given the magnitude, importance, and complexity of the job, you want someone who is scary, intimidatingly smart.
If you find yourself thinking that you could do a better job as president, that typically means that the country is in deep deep trouble.
Hell my 6 year old could do a better job. He also has a vastly superior vocabulary and decent table manners.
montag @ 169
To be clear . . . this Edward Teller is not the same as our beloved Ed*ard Teller here at the Lake.
-ck- @ 165
Hiya, ck!
Getting us out of Iraq couldn’t hurt, either. Although my gut’s telling me that the Dem leadership and Blue Dogs are going to cave again.
Hi Snarky! FB me if you want to come over and learn some gardening, I’m open to a time-share…
Peterr @ 171
Let’s hope that’s obvious. FDL’s is spelled with an asterisk. The real Edward Teller’s is spelled with a raspberry. :P
Peterr @ 167
You’re forgetting the most important element. The receiver. His pressers will get more and more incoherent, since it won’t be Rove behind the curtain telling him what to say.
GordonM @ 175
But he will have cheney standing in the bushes cheering him on.
GordonM @ 175
I always figured Cheney was on the other end of the transmitter.
GordonM @ 175
We’re gonna be in for some fun if it’s Dana Perino speaking into his earpiece. :)
madmommy @ 177
No, then he’d be grunting all the time :-).
Maybe we could always be at war with Middleeastasia.
SnarKassandra @ 166
I knew it was sugar rather than coffee! There’s a difference ;-)
Good evening!
GordonM @ 175
I say it was cheney behind the curtain of what bush says and does, rove was the implimentor
I remember a press conferance a few months back and there was a shot of cheney lurking behind the bushes…lurking and watching like some kind of stalker
that’s a shot that belongs at the top of a thread…I’m gonna do a goodle search and try to find it…it is haunting to see
perris @ 182
that was fast
man, go watch that it is bizzare
I’d like to think she’s right, but I’m not convinced that if a Democrat gets into the WH, that the congressional Dems don’t just go, “Phew, thank God *that’s* over,” and drop everything.
i’m just worried about a president giuliani, ’cause i think that will be “bush on steroids”. and this is why i don’t want hillary. it’s not her fault, but enuf of the lightening rods.
and sadly, i agree with you, but at this point “Phew, thank God that’s over…” seems like enough hope for me.
most of the damage is done, signed, sealed and delivered. it will take a smart one to undo it, that is, what little can be undone.
FYT :)
wangdangdoodle @ 186
Thanks for the edit :0)
Either Karlie’s talking about some other guy named George or he’s toe-tapping in the men’s room.
doodle you have real email.
masaccio @ 181
Seems to have beeen the plan since I was born….
when Ike was President.
madmommy @ 186
Hi mommy, did I tell you I love you today?
wangdangdoodle @ 191
Back at cha!
madmommy @ 177
If he was, Bush would growl and bark more.
GordonM @ 153
must…post…snippet!!!
Hugh @ 193
I have often wondered what is in Cheney’s past that makes him such a bitter, miserable human. Probably don’t want to go there.
Hugh @ 192
must go watch
Hoist a round or two if you got some brew!
When I think of Bush, I cannot help but think of Diane Arbus’ “Child with Toy Hand Grenade in Central Park,” all grown up….
perris @ 194
“shrill, unholy madness”
Yep, that just about covers it. Too bad he’s draging all the rest of us along.
madmommy @ 195
Look who he married.
You’d think he was brown-nosing for a pardon or something. Yep, that’s some mindblowing BS.
If Khalilzad said that I’m surprised he is still UN Ambassador. It’s hard to believe. He was one of the original neocons.
SeamusD @ 200
*shudder*
There’s someone for everyone, I guess.
perris @ 182
Thoroughly creepy. But Cheney was the doer, and given full reign over foreign policy. Rove was everything else. Cheney may have told W what to do, but Rove told him what to say.
And I’m with AK – Cheney will be gone soon, too. All because W thinks he can hold on if he can place the blame on Gonzo/Rove/Cheney… And I think he’s wrong about that, too.
AZ Matt @ 197
*raising my bottle of Kansas City’s Boulevard Pale Ale*
To Michael!
Eli, did you find all the pieces when your brain exploded? I bet someone can help you re-attach.
AZ Matt @ 197
Katie Couric’s story from Iraq.
madmommy @ 194
I have the feeling that Cheney was always an amoral beast. Not trying to make a case for nature over nurture, or vice-versa. He just is what he is. I recall one of his college roommates saying that he was the “least empathetic person” he’d ever met. That was almost fifty years ago when he was still, presumably, young and tender.
SnarKassandra @ 205
Hopefully they’ll just grow into full-sized brains so I’ll have some spares for next time.
I want a president with the honesty of Jimmy Carter, the guts of RFK, the smarts of JFK and the compassion of FDR.
SnarKassandra @ 188
Replied!
Oklahoma kiddo @ 211
Well, don’t we all! Any idea where to find this ideal?
Oklahoma kiddo @ 210
Not a bad mix. Not bad at all.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 211
and that would be….?
GordonM @ 203
cheney will be gone if the scenario that seems likely is taking place and I posted this a few days ago;
the cia obviously had to hold something over bush’s head in order to get an investigation into the source exposing valery wilson but more important to them becuase it involved more assets, brewster jennings and associates
the president balked but they pressed him into it, they obviously held something over his head
then busn not only didn’t take the investigation to where it needed to go, he actually commuted the sentence of the person that covered up treason
cia…not happy
congress…boat load of info
rove…gone
abu torture…gone
if that scenario is correct, cheney will be gone soon
he will declare health issues and he is outa there
if that scenario is correct
I’ve stated that our military is too stretched to attack Iran, and some Goopers I know say, “Not to worry, it’ll all be done with bombs.”
Oh. And our guys in Iraq? How will they get out? “They volunteered….it’s not a problem, we’ll get’em out.”
They’re unamerican.
madmommy @ 212
Can I at least get a president who doesn’t have the honesty of Nixon and the competence of Harding?
GordonM @ 213
By the time I finish US history and govt classes in HS, will I understand why you picked each of these?
Loo Hoo. @ 208
Her first article from a war zone and it’s pure fluff.
Margot @ 216
Not just unAmerican, but stoopid, besides. Hey, the two go together, I think. :)
Eli @ 218
you/we should be able to. Why not!
madmommy @ 212
RFK Jr comes close, but his voice sounds like Kermit after a 96 hour session “fantasy” session with Miss Piggy.
montag @ 208
I hear it’s his wife. They say she is shrill.
Eli @ 217
Now THAT one I understand. You mean Bush.
Margot @ 216
from the onset of the implication we would be engaging Iran I have said the only way to do that is with nukes, we are out of conventional assets, no hardware, no manpower
this fits, the president has been itching to nuke something and he needed to exhaust our conventional defense before he could do it
perris @ 193
Best snippit:
Impeach George W. Bush, impeach Richard Cheney, Do It Now!
SnarKassandra @ 218
With textbooks approved by the Texas State School Board? Silly girl. :)
That’s what outside reading is for. :)
Elliott @ 215
Let’s see . . . where did I put Christy’s address?
Driving by, having just read the top post:
I guess Rove wants to give “History” some help in how to remember Georgie boy. This must be a new take on “History is written by the victors”– to whit, History is written by the most convincing spin doctors. And Karl aims to be one of’em. Spin doctors, that is.
This is how the Reagan “aura” survived: by spin doctors seeking to preserve a “base” for future political campaigns. The Bradley Schlozmans and Monica Goodlings 15 years from now will be telling stories about the halcyon days of 2000-2006, When President Bush rode to power on a tidal wave of public acclaim, and responded boldly to an attack on our city centers. (warning: do not try to parse those sentences for truth or accuracy.) There will be millions of true believers who, having faith in what they are told about Bush, will flock to other charlatans, seeking to manipulate the rabid right.
But let’s not let that happen. We need to pin the tail on this elephant: “Wrong-way” George blundered through two terms as President, causing untold damage to our civil institutions, and ignoring the warning signs about global warming, enriching his friends along the way at the expense of the American Public.
Bob in HI
Elliott @ 214
Gore?
what a great photo. but i always think of that little boy as an innocent in diane’s twisted search to express her own angst. he was probably frustrated the crazy lady would not leave him be.
that’s not how i think of the little frog killer.
Peterr @ 229
Nobody better!
perris @ 216-
I agree, the loss of so much in the way of assets and contacts with the outing of Plame is major. Not that the MSM ever picked up on that to any great degree.
The million dollar question then becomes, who takes Cheney’s place? The choice would have to be confirmed by the Senate, so I’m guessing Romney, Guiliani are non-starters. WHat are your thoughts?
off to home, then to bed
g’night all
eli, thanx for keeping me up past my bedtime…a great thread here
SnarKassandra @ 219
I certainly hope so!
SeamusD @ 220
What do you expect from a “media pixie”? ;-)
perris @ 235
g’night perris
Night, perris, happy to help…
must…post…snippet!!!
U.N. Ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad Says that George W. Bush Is the Worst Possible President
U.N. Ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad says that his boss George W. Bush is not just the worst president America has ever had, but the worst president he can conceive of. He is truly far gone into shrill unholy madness.
That’s strange. Wasn’t Zalmay a signatory to the PNAC 2000 Report?
madmommy @ 234
whoever they want as next president
guiliani might get a democratic nod, mccain might get the nod, lieberman might get the nod
whoever it is will have a foot up on everyone…including a democrat
all they have to do is act tough against the president till the election and they are in
jayt @ 240
is this really true, Khalilzad said this? Where and when?
jayt @ 239
Neo-conservatism never fails. Only people fail neo-conservatism. It’s a Leninist thing. :)
Elliott @ 238
Eli @ 239
I had to leave one more post didn’t I
leaving now, laptop off
thanx guys
Oklahoma kiddo @ 211
The old Jimmy Carter, who promoted peace in the Middle East, not the author of “Peace, Not Apartheid.”
By the way, Dennis Kucinich is plenty gutsy, plenty smart, and plenty compassionate. Too bad he doesn’t have the electability of Bill Clinton.
perris @ 215
Loo Hoo. @ 207
It sort of reads like Innocents Abroad. Edward R. Murrow would be so proud . . . that he died before seeing what CBS News has become.
G’nite perris and hiya Lou!
Look who he married.
you definitely don’t want to go there.
wasn’t someone talking about spiders up-thread?
oh yeah, spiders, psychoanalysis, mommy, don’t go there…
SeamusD @ 219
A storybook tale.
hey wdd! I dropped in at your FB page earlier, but it appears that you need a new app in order to see what I left ;-)
Oklahoma kiddo @ 211
me too. but I’d settle for Gore or Edwards.
Are you tennised out, LL?
Mitt Romney, today, in Newberry, SC.
Romney spent Thursday and Friday in South Carolina. In Aiken earlier Friday, he said that he doesn’t want the federal government to take over providing health care for the nation’s uninsured.
“Don’t have ‘Hillary Care,’” Romney said, referring to a favorite Democrat target, New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton. He said he doesn’t want to “have the guys who ran the Katrina cleanup” in charge of health care and would leave it up to states to design their own systems.
not yet Elliott, my tee vee is still locked on it ;-)
ccmask @ 254
I’m surprised he hasn’t promised “double Katrina”.
LoudounLib @ 256
Looks as though Nadal will be moving on in the draw shortly.
SnarKassandra @ 218
Unfortunately, no. You’ll get more of the picture, but by no means all. If you want to understand history, you need to read (on any period that interests you) fairly decent accounts from either end of the spectrum – the pro and the con. Where they don’t agree, or one ignores one story and the other plays it up, you need to read further. 98% of historical accounts are written to promote some ideological framework. Suspend disbelief, read. Suspend disbelief, read. Then ask yourself who makes the more believable narrative out of the facts.
History is fascinating. And completely endless.
Elliott @ 254
Half a league, half a league, half a league onward . . .
Oh, wait. That’s Tennysoned out.
*channelling Emily Litella*
Never mind.
LoudounLib @ 250
I’m a wreck tonight, pet’s got nuthin’ on me.
I’ll go try to figure it out, right after…
Beer run, potty break, ciggie!
Besides, there’s a zed opportunity coming up soon, right?
ccmask @ 255
So, Romney is blaming the executive branch controlled by his party for Katrina being such a fiasco? Not the Democratic governor? Is he not on the GOP talking points listserv?
Anyway, on perris at 215 — this is a very interesting scenario. I have been of the opinion, for a very long time now, that Tenet would somewhere along the line get his revenge on the WH. Tenet’s CIA and the WH have very obviously bad blood between the two. I wonder if even though Tenet’s long since out, he’s NOT at all down…hmm.
I also always wondered if Bush and Cheney planned to have the latter retire (tho I was thinking “health reasons” stuff) in order for Bush to pick out a successor at the last minute. The time for that sort of thing is being shaven awfully close, assuming that was ever a plan (I have never understood, in terms of continuity in party politics, why Bush never had an electable Republican as an obvious successor in his VP. That still stumps me.)
Eli @ 257
Well that makes loads of sense. Cause nobody travels from state to state. What a putz.
Elliott @ 242
Uh – I dunno; was just quoting perris @ 193
From Zalmay’s wiki:
He is one of the original members of Project for the New American Century (PNAC) and was a signatory of the letter to President Bill Clinton sent on January 26, 1998, which called for an invasion of Iraq without the approval of the United Nations.[2]
madmommy @ 258
I would think so — his opponent is really starting to labor
Mitt Romney is as dumb as his dad. And will probably get as far in the primaries.
GordonM @ 259
You know I learned more American history from classes like Afro-American History and The History of Religion in America than I ever did in a straight American History course. fwiw or ymmv
“History is fascinating. And completely endless.”
Very true..I am looking at one wall with floor to ceiling history books..There is no end to the reading.
And from the ABC News Blog: (check out the comment section)
Bush E-Mail Mystery Deepens: White House Won’t Name Tech Contractor
The White House will not identify a private company which appears to be involved in the disappearance of millions of White House e-mails.
The company was responsible for reviewing and archiving White House e-mails, a White House official told congressional staff in May, according to a letter yesterday from House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Henry Waxman, D-Calif. Congressional investigators asked then for the name of the company and “have repeatedly requested” the information since then, according to Waxman.
Peterr @ 260
lmao!
LoudounLib @ 265
Nadal’s opponent just retired down 2-1 in the 3rd set. Rib injury
ccmask @ 270
I’m sorry — if you’ve got a contract from We, The People, then We want to know who you are.
ABC News Blog here
madmommy @ 271
I look away for two seconds and see what happens!
Peterr @ 272
Damn right Peterr. It’s time for the hackers of America to unite!
jayt @ 265
oh, thanks for the explanation.
It’s obvious that Bush is the worst president evah but for Khalilzad to say it out loud. wow
Evening, Peterr, Cassie, madmommy, OKK and all! It’s a lovely night up here–65 and the rain just stopped, supposed to be 70 or so and sunny for the w/e. How are you all?
I cannot believe that Mitt is blaming Katrina on the Dems! What a freak of nature he is.
Trex upstairs, everybody.
A Mormon in the White House?: Ten Things Every American Should Know about Mitt Romney
by Hugh Hewitt
Elliott @ 267
Agreed. You need to read the standard narrative, but sometimes the best alternatives come from unexpected places.
Capri pants in desert camo?
Karl Rove often enough seems to be the “long view taken guy” and surely has motive to be working on the post WH G.W.Bush “legacy” lines of thinking.
It is plainly obvious the Bush/Cheney WH has not been playing warmaker in ways that close off any or many possible charges of war crimes or G.W.Bush and Dick Cheney being seen or in some places on this planet charged as being war criminals.
Americans labor under the evergreen impression and self-view that we (the Americans) are the always the “good guys”,the guys in the white hats,the “cavalry” come to rescue.
There is some very deep self-deceit in that premise.
It is not beyond possible that the Americans could come out of Iraq being tossed into the same historical bin as some notorious 20th century players who decided warmaking was a easy and effective way to get where they sought to go or get what they sought to have.
The Americans are not the good guys in Iraq and G.W.Bush and Dick Cheney do have some very real ethical,moral and legal clouds about them.
Karl Rove is doing something here with all this pompous sounding praise.
It may be more darkly founded on reasons more to do with building political/legal firewalls and records of public praise then may seem at first evident.
These guys have been bad.Some may well suggest they have been evil and murderous to gain what they wanted. They likely know this is a sharp edge they have come to.
Being branded warmonger and war criminal is not how they may want to be portrayed in the history books or websites.
Karl Rove will be busy sowing misdirection and brushing the trail over.
Very busy.
“I swear I am not making this up.”
I call shenanigans.
*Reads link*
Shit.
Scarecrow @ 86
Looks like a train track, with a partial wheel and stuff.
Kim Whitmyre @ 285
Yep, that’s it. Depending on which random header you get.
This story scrubbed off Mitt’s wiki page:
Romney often casts himself as budget hero
It’s a love letter to his dearly beloved. Very generous of the gray lady to spare the column inches for his unabashed blubbing.
Eli, thank you, I completely agree with the sense of your post. I have to confess, however, that Karl Rove is something of a guru to me. I don’t aprove of the causes for which he fights, but I study and admire his effectiveness. Every time I see an attack from the right, I ask myself, “What would Karl do?”
I’m a very simple fellow and work at a level much below my guru. I dream up bumper stickers like:
Obviously, I have much to learn, but I’m just starting.
When I read Rove reminiscing nostalgically about GWB:
I want to ask, “Who named you ‘Turdblossom,’ you syncophantic asshole.”
But, every true warior secretly wishes to slay his master (figuratively speaking). Obviously I’m not yet at his level. So, I continue to refine my deadly one-liners in hopes of graduating to bumper stickers.
alank @ 288
uh, not the grey lady, i don’t think.
this time.
the link above goes to Rove’s own words as posted at NRO.
in fact, Eli, i am confused here.
has Rove revealing his dementia in public ever been a surprise?
(well, there was the time he went on NPR to predict a bushslide last november, because he knew the math.)
can NRO posting his drivel be surprising?
it’s like finding swill spilled into the sewage.
of course its smell would make you retch.
your take on NIE and the GAO report sound more interesting to me.
What if DC’s like a *Gay* Old Boys Club, from even before J Edgar Hoover and Joe McCarthy?
What if the Skull and Bones is for rich young *fags*? The richest guy in our school was the most flaming gay that I’ve ever met in my life, squired from one ivy to another, waiting for his trust fund. Now he’s a Fed judge in DC.
See, *another* gay in Fed!
What if DC’s a totally *gay* culture now? They finally got rid of the Head Hetero in the White House and are making damn sure from now on it’s the Pink House.
What if Mayor Barry was set up because he knew about all the S&M clubs these Goobers go to?
Rove sure seems uber-gay, and Gingrich bi-gay.
None of the Repug’s ever wore a uniform, maybe they COULDN’T be in the military because they were *gay*? Now they hate all men in uniform, and especially “father” Noriega’s and Saddam’s.
Bush giving the German chancellor a neck rub?
Really gay!
Hissy fit with Putin? Gay!
Hates Iranians? Wow, gay!
Just a thought. They sure seem gay to me, all those silver-haired pasty-handed Republican lords, loitering around airport bathrooms.
Of course, when they’re gay in plain view like that, they have to make the lives of average normal gays totally unbearable and illegal. Then they go to their homes, close the doors, and put their dresses on, one leg at a time, just like everyone else.
Ahh,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha…
Wasn’t Hitler and his advisors gay?
Isn’t the whole Neo-Zi theme kinda gay?
Slogans and banners, leiderhosen and hand jobs under the table? Der Homeland Uber Alles! Gay!
Peterr @ 167
Sheesh, what a tough crowd! :-)
ccmask @ 254
He’s got a point. Really, who would want Bushies doing health care?
The question then is, how can we keep it out of the anti-government crowd’s reach and still maintain proper oversight and quality?
Perhaps state-run programs with federal design, regulation, oversight and funding is worth considering. You know, something like SCHIP.
What do firedoglakers think?
madmommy @ 263
Feds could mandate complete portability by law. If it’s universal health care, rather than u.h.insure., then what’s the problem?
Eureka Springs @ 109
Fabian is was a Pioneer “rainmaker” for the RNC and Bush Campains. He was a Pioneer, one of those that raised over $100K for Bush.
According to the Federal Election Commission’s searchable donor databas, Fabian has also (strangely) made contributions to Giuliani’s campaign. He also has donated money to Heather Wilson, Elizabeth Dole, and over $25K to the RNCC this election cycle. “‘We have no intention of returning the contribution,’ said Matt Leffingwell, spokesman for [Rep. Jon] Porter [R-NV], who received nearly $1,500 from Fabian in 2004. ‘Until the individual is convicted in a court of law, we don’t return contributions.’
http://thehill.com/leading-the…..08-15.html
ccmask @ 269
no doubt a company that specializes in manufactured mail-server disasters and “accidental” data eradication… I assume that the RNC shares this “contractor”
Dan in Canada @ 111
The ones run by theocons, who burn, stone or simply purge the cootie-infected
KKKarl didn’t just leave the White House…he flew over the cuckoo’s nest.
Ah. So that’s why he must be kept isolated in his own little bubble. Otherwise, he might start to respect the “wrong” people!
Yup, he has “moral clarity” that is sooooo clear, you can’t even see it!
No blossom, Karl, you’re just a turd.
I pretty much threw up in my mouth when I read that.
Karl said the GOP would pick up seats in ‘06, too. Ms. Cleo he ain’t.
BigMitch @ 245
Thank you BM – you took the words out of my mouth – don’t know what I’m thinking of pumping for Kucinich at the slightest opportunity when I’m not even an American but the more I read about him, the more I respect him. Why isn’t he attracting more ‘progressive’ support?
Oh yes shrub will be remembered alright in the same breath as King Ahab,Nero,Caligula,Hitler,El Duche,Idi Amin, the list goes on. I know the humility these guys displayed could not dim that of our Fearless leader of the Free World. To think that you people on the left would denegrate such a wonderfull humane man is mind boggling.Why he is getting ready to protect us from those evil Iranians real soon he’s my hero! and what a sight he cuts in his flight suit ooooooohweee,mmmmmm and that cod piece, what a man. How could you..
yea, right.
Mightily epu’d, but just begging to be said.
Dumbya woodn’ no “moral clarity” if it bit ‘im on th’ . . . nose!
I just vomited my Honey Bunches of Oats, DOH!