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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/29/the-consequences-of-inaction/#comment-930306</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 23:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Since people aren’t applauding Bush should take that as a clue that he’s not really welcome.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since people aren’t applauding Bush should take that as a clue that he’s not really welcome.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/29/the-consequences-of-inaction/#comment-930282</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 23:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-929179&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;kdh22 @ 78&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-929166&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;things come undone @ 65&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;  This issue is a winner …&lt;br /&gt;
      The polling on this issue should be huge in favor of it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Just one of many reasons I choose him for my candidate. …&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And, nothing ventured, nothing gained.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I agree. All the Dems could climb all over this issue.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And, it extends to the world trade reform movement. They can point out that we shouldn’t be selling our junk financial paper (badly rated mortgage loans and packages of loans) abroad any more than the Chinese should be selling toys coated with lead-infused paint.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Fair AND Safe Trade!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-929179"><em>kdh22 @ 78</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-929166"><em>things come undone @ 65</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>  This issue is a winner …<br />
      The polling on this issue should be huge in favor of it.</p>
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<p>Just one of many reasons I choose him for my candidate. …</p>
<p>And, nothing ventured, nothing gained.</p>
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<p>I agree. All the Dems could climb all over this issue.</p>
<p>And, it extends to the world trade reform movement. They can point out that we shouldn’t be selling our junk financial paper (badly rated mortgage loans and packages of loans) abroad any more than the Chinese should be selling toys coated with lead-infused paint.</p>
<p>Fair AND Safe Trade!</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/29/the-consequences-of-inaction/#comment-930263</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 23:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-929159&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;selise @ 58&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;wow - a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/9fd5e4de-558e-11dc-b971-0000779fd2ac.html&quot;&gt;good proposal from barak obama&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Unscrupulous lenders who deceptively sold subprime mortgages to millions of Americans should be fined and the proceeds used to help bail out borrowers facing a wave of foreclosures, according to Barack Obama, the Democratic senator running to be his party’s presidential candidate.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
… adding: “Our government failed to provide the regulatory scrutiny that could have prevented this crisis.&lt;br /&gt;
…
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i’m impressed!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He does know, doesn’t he, that you can’t arbitrarily fine people if they’ve stuck to the letter of the law. You can’t change the law and retroactively enforce it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But, as for changing the law to protect people — excellent.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-929159"><em>selise @ 58</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>wow &#8211; a <a href="http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/9fd5e4de-558e-11dc-b971-0000779fd2ac.html">good proposal from barak obama</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Unscrupulous lenders who deceptively sold subprime mortgages to millions of Americans should be fined and the proceeds used to help bail out borrowers facing a wave of foreclosures, according to Barack Obama, the Democratic senator running to be his party’s presidential candidate.</p>
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… adding: “Our government failed to provide the regulatory scrutiny that could have prevented this crisis.<br />
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<p>i’m impressed!</p>
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<p>He does know, doesn’t he, that you can’t arbitrarily fine people if they’ve stuck to the letter of the law. You can’t change the law and retroactively enforce it.</p>
<p>But, as for changing the law to protect people — excellent.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/29/the-consequences-of-inaction/#comment-930253</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 23:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-929151&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;realworld @ 51&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;OT: Tim Johnson is going back to the Senate Sept 5.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Woo hoo!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-929151"><em>realworld @ 51</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>OT: Tim Johnson is going back to the Senate Sept 5.</p>
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<p>Woo hoo!</p>
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		<title>By: molly</title>
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		<dc:creator>molly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 19:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Bill Kristol said that the Katrina debacle was bad policy. And policy it was. It won a lot of hearts and minds in the south…the racist ones that is. My son lives in N.C. and has talked to many that just love the way the blacks were treated.All of the financial difficulties they are going through are not as important as hurting black people. My son is going to move to Maine where I live.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill Kristol said that the Katrina debacle was bad policy. And policy it was. It won a lot of hearts and minds in the south…the racist ones that is. My son lives in N.C. and has talked to many that just love the way the blacks were treated.All of the financial difficulties they are going through are not as important as hurting black people. My son is going to move to Maine where I live.</p>
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		<title>By: P J Evans</title>
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		<dc:creator>P J Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 15:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I kind of wish the people responsible for this mess - including Shrub and JoeL - would have to shop at dollar stores and thrift shops for three or four years (and without the six-figure income they love so much). Maybe then they’d understand what it’s like for so many of the “little” people they’ve been looking down on.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I kind of wish the people responsible for this mess &#8211; including Shrub and JoeL &#8211; would have to shop at dollar stores and thrift shops for three or four years (and without the six-figure income they love so much). Maybe then they’d understand what it’s like for so many of the “little” people they’ve been looking down on.</p>
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		<title>By: pma</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/29/the-consequences-of-inaction/#comment-929301</link>
		<dc:creator>pma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 15:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-929215&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Bluetoe @ 113&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;When will someone make a movie or ads showing the consequences of conservative ideology? The social Darwinism espoused by these people needs to be shown to the American public on how corrupt, hypocritical and deadly the adherence to this ideology is for the country at large. Conservative ideology needs to be exposed for the sham that it is.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I agree, but the Social Darwinism, only works for the most cynical “greed is good” products of Reaganism. Others rely on a strain of Puritanism which interpreted bad luck or failure to flourish as the wages of some sin, such as sloth. Others, of course, see any promotion of the general welfare as communism or socialism. From the Civil War until FDR, it seems it took the near universal hardships brought on by the Great Depression to get enough of the populace to see sharing, joint effort, and the common good as virtues. It took until Reagan for a majority to forget. I hope it doesn’t take disasters equal to the Great Depression to reach a consensus that: government doesn’t have to be the enemy; that it’s not bad to sacrifice for the common good; that not all problems have simplistic answers; and that policy can be more effective than natural law in promoting the good of the nation.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-929215"><em>Bluetoe @ 113</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>When will someone make a movie or ads showing the consequences of conservative ideology? The social Darwinism espoused by these people needs to be shown to the American public on how corrupt, hypocritical and deadly the adherence to this ideology is for the country at large. Conservative ideology needs to be exposed for the sham that it is.</p>
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<p>I agree, but the Social Darwinism, only works for the most cynical “greed is good” products of Reaganism. Others rely on a strain of Puritanism which interpreted bad luck or failure to flourish as the wages of some sin, such as sloth. Others, of course, see any promotion of the general welfare as communism or socialism. From the Civil War until FDR, it seems it took the near universal hardships brought on by the Great Depression to get enough of the populace to see sharing, joint effort, and the common good as virtues. It took until Reagan for a majority to forget. I hope it doesn’t take disasters equal to the Great Depression to reach a consensus that: government doesn’t have to be the enemy; that it’s not bad to sacrifice for the common good; that not all problems have simplistic answers; and that policy can be more effective than natural law in promoting the good of the nation.</p>
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		<title>By: Adie</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/29/the-consequences-of-inaction/#comment-929283</link>
		<dc:creator>Adie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 14:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-929268&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Becca @ 146&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Bush looks scared to death. Stumbling and mumbling. So far, no one is biting on his “applause lines”.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He’ s touting Gonzo in NOLA and his federal commitment to the city. Deathly silence in the hall.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;sorry, i’ll watch the re-run, mebbe…&lt;br /&gt;
but thanx for watchin’ for me.&lt;br /&gt;
yer report’s sounding dandy&lt;br /&gt;
deathly silence - perfect&lt;br /&gt;
no notes(??? really? honest? woohoo - heh)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;chimpy’s version of conducting Mahler 5 with no score… /s&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-929268"><em>Becca @ 146</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Bush looks scared to death. Stumbling and mumbling. So far, no one is biting on his “applause lines”.</p>
<p>He’ s touting Gonzo in NOLA and his federal commitment to the city. Deathly silence in the hall.</p>
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<p>sorry, i’ll watch the re-run, mebbe…<br />
but thanx for watchin’ for me.<br />
yer report’s sounding dandy<br />
deathly silence &#8211; perfect<br />
no notes(??? really? honest? woohoo &#8211; heh)</p>
<p>chimpy’s version of conducting Mahler 5 with no score… /s</p>
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		<title>By: Adie</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/29/the-consequences-of-inaction/#comment-929277</link>
		<dc:creator>Adie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 14:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;{{{{{{Nola Sue &amp; Mr. Sue}}}}}}&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Becca</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/29/the-consequences-of-inaction/#comment-929268</link>
		<dc:creator>Becca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 14:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Bush looks scared to death. Stumbling and mumbling. So far, no one is biting on his “applause lines”.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He’ s touting Gonzo in NOLA and his federal commitment to the city. Deathly silence in the hall.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush looks scared to death. Stumbling and mumbling. So far, no one is biting on his “applause lines”.</p>
<p>He’ s touting Gonzo in NOLA and his federal commitment to the city. Deathly silence in the hall.</p>
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