Comments on: Broadcast Journalism At Its Finest http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/29/broadcast-journalism-at-its-finest/ Firedoglake weblog Fri, 27 Nov 2009 12:41:22 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: mui http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/29/broadcast-journalism-at-its-finest/#comment-931622 mui Thu, 30 Aug 2007 14:53:08 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/08/29/broadcast-journalism-at-its-finest/#comment-931622 <p>I still like Keith Olbermann’s dragnet version of what happened.</p> I still like Keith Olbermann’s dragnet version of what happened.

]]> By: MarkH http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/29/broadcast-journalism-at-its-finest/#comment-931257 MarkH Thu, 30 Aug 2007 05:58:18 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/08/29/broadcast-journalism-at-its-finest/#comment-931257 <p><a href="#comment-930618"><em>Loo Hoo. @ 249</em></a></p> <blockquote><p> …<br /> And the most beautiful thing will be in 2008. Then we’ll be seeing the results of Leahy’s work, Conyer’s work and Waxman’s work. It ain’t gonna be pretty. We’re talking Gonzales, Rove, and possibly even Cheney and Bush. Life is beautiful! … </p></blockquote> <p>I may be misreading Conyers when he talks about the ‘politics of impeachment’, but personally I don’t think it’s about politics to gain power. I think it’s good government which will naturally, in these times, gain us political power.</p> <p>Think of it as power flowing to the party which is earning it with hard work, just like a corporation (or industry) which earns money through hard work.</p> Loo Hoo. @ 249

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And the most beautiful thing will be in 2008. Then we’ll be seeing the results of Leahy’s work, Conyer’s work and Waxman’s work. It ain’t gonna be pretty. We’re talking Gonzales, Rove, and possibly even Cheney and Bush. Life is beautiful! …

I may be misreading Conyers when he talks about the ‘politics of impeachment’, but personally I don’t think it’s about politics to gain power. I think it’s good government which will naturally, in these times, gain us political power.

Think of it as power flowing to the party which is earning it with hard work, just like a corporation (or industry) which earns money through hard work.

]]> By: MarkH http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/29/broadcast-journalism-at-its-finest/#comment-931212 MarkH Thu, 30 Aug 2007 05:29:47 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/08/29/broadcast-journalism-at-its-finest/#comment-931212 <p><a href="#comment-930428"><em>Jonathan @ 71</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>PW,</p> <p>I look at it as an intelligence officer (which I was in Viet Nam).</p> <p>Is Larry Craig vulnerable? Does he know something I want to know? Can I offer him something he wants that will cause him to tell me stuff I want to know?</p></blockquote> <p>But, it might not be information you want. It might be his cooperation and silence.</p> Jonathan @ 71

PW,

I look at it as an intelligence officer (which I was in Viet Nam).

Is Larry Craig vulnerable? Does he know something I want to know? Can I offer him something he wants that will cause him to tell me stuff I want to know?

But, it might not be information you want. It might be his cooperation and silence.

]]> By: cinnamonape http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/29/broadcast-journalism-at-its-finest/#comment-931044 cinnamonape Thu, 30 Aug 2007 04:07:49 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/08/29/broadcast-journalism-at-its-finest/#comment-931044 <p><a href="#comment-930537"><em>Eureka Springs @ 172</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>KO aired a reenactment based on the police report.. with two deliberate peeks by Craig.</p></blockquote> <p>The police officer was able to see “the blue color of his eyes”…kind a reminds me of that old Bunker Hill adage.</p> Eureka Springs @ 172

KO aired a reenactment based on the police report.. with two deliberate peeks by Craig.

The police officer was able to see “the blue color of his eyes”…kind a reminds me of that old Bunker Hill adage.

]]> By: cinnamonape http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/29/broadcast-journalism-at-its-finest/#comment-931002 cinnamonape Thu, 30 Aug 2007 03:56:14 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/08/29/broadcast-journalism-at-its-finest/#comment-931002 <p><a href="#comment-930467"><em>dakine01 @ 108</em></a></p> <blockquote><p><a href="#comment-930462"><em>Michael Harold @ 104</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>I’ve learned a lot here today. I didn’t get the part where the police officer put his foot under the partition and into Craig’s space until I saw the video. I have no patience for hypocrisy, but that looks like entrapment to me.</p></blockquote> <p>KO reading the police report and the cop states that his foot stayed within his stall area but that Craig moved <em>his</em> foot into the cop’s stall area.</p></blockquote> <p>And Craig never claimed that the cop but HIS foot into HIS stall…he attributed HIS putting his foot under the partition and touching the officers foot to his “wide stance”. He also said that it may have “appeared” he reached down under the partition because he was “picking up a piece of paper”.</p> <p>BTW There was a gay pickup website that had a posting about the Minneapolis-St. Paul Airport “sting” in and around the time that Craig was busted. It asserted that the cops were “entrapping” victims by “tapping their feet” and putting their feet UNDER the partition.</p> <p>I’m wondering if this post was submitted by someone who hoped to IMPLY that the cops entrapped him. It would be interesting to see if any email from Senator Larry Craig has been sent to that site about that time frame!</p> dakine01 @ 108

Michael Harold @ 104

I’ve learned a lot here today. I didn’t get the part where the police officer put his foot under the partition and into Craig’s space until I saw the video. I have no patience for hypocrisy, but that looks like entrapment to me.

KO reading the police report and the cop states that his foot stayed within his stall area but that Craig moved his foot into the cop’s stall area.

And Craig never claimed that the cop but HIS foot into HIS stall…he attributed HIS putting his foot under the partition and touching the officers foot to his “wide stance”. He also said that it may have “appeared” he reached down under the partition because he was “picking up a piece of paper”.

BTW There was a gay pickup website that had a posting about the Minneapolis-St. Paul Airport “sting” in and around the time that Craig was busted. It asserted that the cops were “entrapping” victims by “tapping their feet” and putting their feet UNDER the partition.

I’m wondering if this post was submitted by someone who hoped to IMPLY that the cops entrapped him. It would be interesting to see if any email from Senator Larry Craig has been sent to that site about that time frame!

]]> By: tejanarusa http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/29/broadcast-journalism-at-its-finest/#comment-930965 tejanarusa Thu, 30 Aug 2007 03:46:07 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/08/29/broadcast-journalism-at-its-finest/#comment-930965 <p><a href="#comment-930598"><em>Valley Girl @ 230</em></a></p> <blockquote><p><a href="#comment-930570"><em>punaise @ 205</em></a></p> <blockquote><p>hey, it’s Valley Girl!</p></blockquote> <p>Hey Punaise. My first lecture tomorrow, and I am still working on it, and the class schedule. Arrgh.</p> <p>Valley Girl - thanks for that - as usual, that site made me LOL for real. Love the tribble one, too.<br /> Good luck finishing your lecture - hope we’re not interfering much!<br /> Link 4 U: <a href="http://icanhascheezburger.com/">http://icanhascheezburger.com/</a></p></blockquote> Valley Girl @ 230

punaise @ 205

hey, it’s Valley Girl!

Hey Punaise. My first lecture tomorrow, and I am still working on it, and the class schedule. Arrgh.

Valley Girl – thanks for that – as usual, that site made me LOL for real. Love the tribble one, too.
Good luck finishing your lecture – hope we’re not interfering much!
Link 4 U: http://icanhascheezburger.com/

]]> By: kirk murphy http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/29/broadcast-journalism-at-its-finest/#comment-930806 kirk murphy Thu, 30 Aug 2007 02:52:24 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/08/29/broadcast-journalism-at-its-finest/#comment-930806 <p>Uh, JD</p> <p>Sorry to put a pin in the spin bubble, but I reach out with my finger and touch a peace officer, I may be charged with Assault and Battery.</p> <p>And I’ve ssen the charge used in that way for very limited contact between citizens and law enforcement officers - and those who merely argued with officers.</p> <p>Tain’t saying any form of unwanted contact is OK (it’s not), but the purported point of your comment is laughable.</p> <p>But I’m quite willing to believe it is the best the wingers have.</p> <p>Can’t wait to see what gets served up when McConnell steps out for her star turn…</p> Uh, JD

Sorry to put a pin in the spin bubble, but I reach out with my finger and touch a peace officer, I may be charged with Assault and Battery.

And I’ve ssen the charge used in that way for very limited contact between citizens and law enforcement officers – and those who merely argued with officers.

Tain’t saying any form of unwanted contact is OK (it’s not), but the purported point of your comment is laughable.

But I’m quite willing to believe it is the best the wingers have.

Can’t wait to see what gets served up when McConnell steps out for her star turn…

]]> By: JD http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/29/broadcast-journalism-at-its-finest/#comment-930723 JD Thu, 30 Aug 2007 02:31:50 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/08/29/broadcast-journalism-at-its-finest/#comment-930723 <p><b>Press Bias </b><br /> While the Press has created a huge furor over Idaho Republican, Rep. Craig’s brush with the law in an airport, there has been another unlawful incident that has been completely ignored by the National Media. Democratic Rep. Filner just last week was charged for his run-in with a baggage clerk, also at an airport. The significance of this is that<br /> although Republican Rep. Craig’s charge was simply a misdemeanor Disorderly Conduct, Democratic Rep. Filner was charged with Assault and Battery. The severity of these charges are as follows:<br /> <b>Disorderly Conduct</b><br /> Almost every state has a disorderly conduct law that makes it a crime to be drunk in public, to “disturb the peace”, or to loiter in certain areas. Many types of obnoxious or unruly conduct may fit the definition of disorderly conduct, as such statutes are often used as “catch-all” crimes. Police may use a disorderly conduct charge to keep the peace when a person is behaving in a disruptive manner, but presents no serious public danger.<br /> <b>Assault Basics</b><br /> Assault is an intentional attempt or threat to inflict injury upon a person, coupled with an apparent, present ability to cause the harm, which creates a reasonable apprehension of bodily harm or offensive contact in another. Assault does not require actual touching or bodily harm to the victim. Assault and battery are sometimes used interchangeably, but battery is an unjustified harmful or offensive touching of another. Battery also differs from assault in that it does not require the victim to be in apprehension of harm.<br /> Assault developed in common law, meaning it developed through usage, custom, and judicial decisions rather than from legislative enactment. Modern-day assault statutes closely reflect the ancient common-law definition. An assault is both a crime and a tort. Therefore, an assailant may face both criminal and civil liability. A criminal assault conviction may result in a fine, imprisonment, or both. In a civil assault case, the victim may be entitled to monetary damages from the assailant.<br /> <b>Battery Basics</b><br /> Simple criminal battery is most often prosecuted as a misdemeanor. Repeat offenses or the specific nature of the offense may warrant more severe treatment. For example, in some states, a second or third offense against the same individual is a felony. In cases of domestic violence, many states do not permit battery charges to be dropped against the defendant, even at the request of the victim, because of the potential for repeat or escalated harm.<br /> Aggravated battery is a simple battery with an additional element of an aggravating factor. This is most often the addition of a weapon (whether use was real or merely threatened), and is almost always a felony offense. Other aggravated batteries include those committed against protected persons (children, the elderly or disabled, or governmental agents); those in which the victim suffers serious injury; or those occurring in <b>a public transit vehicle or station</b>, or school zone, or other protected place. These are all aggravating factors that will enhance simple misdemeanor batteries to the level of felonies.<br /> While Republican Rep. Craig’s misdemeanor Disorderly conduct is receiving demands for his ouster, Democratic Rep. Filner’s assault and battery charges are getting no attention whatsoever, and are being swept under the rug. With the fact that the Battery on the Airline attendant occured in a public transit station, the battery charge should be considered a felony Aggravated battery.<br /> So, the question is, why is such scrutiny and attention being placed on the Republican misdemeanor while Filner’s two charges, 1) assault and 2) battery, which should be considered a felony is being given no news coverage at all? Is the media being biased here? I think definitely so!</p> <p>JD<br /> jdspoliticalneoconnoisseurs.blog.com</p> Press Bias
While the Press has created a huge furor over Idaho Republican, Rep. Craig’s brush with the law in an airport, there has been another unlawful incident that has been completely ignored by the National Media. Democratic Rep. Filner just last week was charged for his run-in with a baggage clerk, also at an airport. The significance of this is that
although Republican Rep. Craig’s charge was simply a misdemeanor Disorderly Conduct, Democratic Rep. Filner was charged with Assault and Battery. The severity of these charges are as follows:
Disorderly Conduct
Almost every state has a disorderly conduct law that makes it a crime to be drunk in public, to “disturb the peace”, or to loiter in certain areas. Many types of obnoxious or unruly conduct may fit the definition of disorderly conduct, as such statutes are often used as “catch-all” crimes. Police may use a disorderly conduct charge to keep the peace when a person is behaving in a disruptive manner, but presents no serious public danger.
Assault Basics
Assault is an intentional attempt or threat to inflict injury upon a person, coupled with an apparent, present ability to cause the harm, which creates a reasonable apprehension of bodily harm or offensive contact in another. Assault does not require actual touching or bodily harm to the victim. Assault and battery are sometimes used interchangeably, but battery is an unjustified harmful or offensive touching of another. Battery also differs from assault in that it does not require the victim to be in apprehension of harm.
Assault developed in common law, meaning it developed through usage, custom, and judicial decisions rather than from legislative enactment. Modern-day assault statutes closely reflect the ancient common-law definition. An assault is both a crime and a tort. Therefore, an assailant may face both criminal and civil liability. A criminal assault conviction may result in a fine, imprisonment, or both. In a civil assault case, the victim may be entitled to monetary damages from the assailant.
Battery Basics
Simple criminal battery is most often prosecuted as a misdemeanor. Repeat offenses or the specific nature of the offense may warrant more severe treatment. For example, in some states, a second or third offense against the same individual is a felony. In cases of domestic violence, many states do not permit battery charges to be dropped against the defendant, even at the request of the victim, because of the potential for repeat or escalated harm.
Aggravated battery is a simple battery with an additional element of an aggravating factor. This is most often the addition of a weapon (whether use was real or merely threatened), and is almost always a felony offense. Other aggravated batteries include those committed against protected persons (children, the elderly or disabled, or governmental agents); those in which the victim suffers serious injury; or those occurring in a public transit vehicle or station, or school zone, or other protected place. These are all aggravating factors that will enhance simple misdemeanor batteries to the level of felonies.
While Republican Rep. Craig’s misdemeanor Disorderly conduct is receiving demands for his ouster, Democratic Rep. Filner’s assault and battery charges are getting no attention whatsoever, and are being swept under the rug. With the fact that the Battery on the Airline attendant occured in a public transit station, the battery charge should be considered a felony Aggravated battery.
So, the question is, why is such scrutiny and attention being placed on the Republican misdemeanor while Filner’s two charges, 1) assault and 2) battery, which should be considered a felony is being given no news coverage at all? Is the media being biased here? I think definitely so!

JD
jdspoliticalneoconnoisseurs.blog.com

]]> By: Adie http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/29/broadcast-journalism-at-its-finest/#comment-930662 Adie Thu, 30 Aug 2007 02:18:18 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/08/29/broadcast-journalism-at-its-finest/#comment-930662 <p>Hey Valley Girl.</p> <p>Welcome to the new age. Every lecture is filled with charming little urchins holding cell-phone-cameras & a permanent link to UToob.</p> <p>Apologies. Retirement has its perks….</p> <p>Hope everything goes well for you ;-></p> Hey Valley Girl.

Welcome to the new age. Every lecture is filled with charming little urchins holding cell-phone-cameras & a permanent link to UToob.

Apologies. Retirement has its perks….

Hope everything goes well for you ;->

]]> By: Valley Girl http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/29/broadcast-journalism-at-its-finest/#comment-930650 Valley Girl Thu, 30 Aug 2007 02:13:58 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/08/29/broadcast-journalism-at-its-finest/#comment-930650 <p><a href="#comment-930607"><em>tw3k @ 238</em></a></p> <blockquote><p><a href="#comment-930598"><em>Valley Girl @ 230</em></a></p> <blockquote> <p>Hey Punaise. My first lecture tomorrow, and I am still working on it, and the class schedule. Arrgh.</p> <p>Link 4 U: <a href="http://icanhascheezburger.com/">http://icanhascheezburger.com/</a></p></blockquote> <p>lol…</p> <p><a href="http://flickr.com/photos/g9g/1193566097/">http://flickr.com/photos/g9g/1193566097/</a></p></blockquote> <p>Oh, like, great, like I just need another venue for procrastination this eve. ;;</p> <p><a href="http://flickr.com/photos/tags/lolcat/">http://flickr.com/photos/tags/lolcat/</a></p> tw3k @ 238

Valley Girl @ 230

Hey Punaise. My first lecture tomorrow, and I am still working on it, and the class schedule. Arrgh.

Link 4 U: http://icanhascheezburger.com/

lol…

http://flickr.com/photos/g9g/1193566097/

Oh, like, great, like I just need another venue for procrastination this eve. ;;

http://flickr.com/photos/tags/lolcat/

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