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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/27/friends-shouldnt-help-friends-revive-bad-bills/#comment-925787</link>
		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 06:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-925093&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Loo Hoo. @ 168&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;The confusion arose because it was in an airport. All the previous Craig rumors were about Union Station, a train station. Easy to get thrown off the scent.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Whatcha got, Teddy?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Here’s some stuff a ways back about Larry Craigs Union Station dalliances.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;  &lt;a href=&quot;http://patriotboy.blogspot.com/2006/10/whats-matter-with-idaho.html&quot;&gt;http://patriotboy.blogspot.com.....idaho.html&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And just for fun…Larry discusses the recipe for “stuffed piquito” while dressed in Beret and sash.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqEcYv2qvOI&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqEcYv2qvOI&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-925093"><em>Loo Hoo. @ 168</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><em>The confusion arose because it was in an airport. All the previous Craig rumors were about Union Station, a train station. Easy to get thrown off the scent.</em></p>
<p>Whatcha got, Teddy?</p>
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<p>Here’s some stuff a ways back about Larry Craigs Union Station dalliances.</p>
<p>  <a href="http://patriotboy.blogspot.com/2006/10/whats-matter-with-idaho.html">http://patriotboy.blogspot.com&#8230;..idaho.html</a> </p>
<p>And just for fun…Larry discusses the recipe for “stuffed piquito” while dressed in Beret and sash.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqEcYv2qvOI">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqEcYv2qvOI</a></p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/27/friends-shouldnt-help-friends-revive-bad-bills/#comment-925684</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 05:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-925072&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Jonathan @ 147&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;PW at 133&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We can rag about Repubs endlessley.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The American people are going to say, “Yeah.  Waitress.  Another Bud, please.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The real question, in my opinion, is what ideas do Dems have to offer to the American people?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s the ‘vision thing’. It’s Leadership.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Just keep your ears open and listen to the speeches and debates to hear what the Dem presidential candidates say. It’s all there and commentary is on the blogs.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-925072"><em>Jonathan @ 147</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>PW at 133</p>
<p>We can rag about Repubs endlessley.</p>
<p>The American people are going to say, “Yeah.  Waitress.  Another Bud, please.”</p>
<p>The real question, in my opinion, is what ideas do Dems have to offer to the American people?</p>
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<p>It’s the ‘vision thing’. It’s Leadership.</p>
<p>Just keep your ears open and listen to the speeches and debates to hear what the Dem presidential candidates say. It’s all there and commentary is on the blogs.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/27/friends-shouldnt-help-friends-revive-bad-bills/#comment-925672</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 05:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-925062&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Phoenix Woman @ 137&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
…&lt;br /&gt;
John Edwards gets dinged for being rich and good-looking and having good grooming habits, whereas Romney is praised and drooled over for same.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I confronted a Repub friend about that. He’d been saying what a hypocrite Edwards was for having a big house, being rich, paying a lot for the haircut and then saying he was all for the poor.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think it’s just a rationalization for the fact they don’t have anything else to dislike except that he’s a Dem.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;When I confronted my friend he was just kind of blank. He didn’t really have a thought on the matter. Heck, maybe he was just repeating talking points. You know how these guys are: the borg tells them what to do and say.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don’t think it ever occurred to him that Edwards actually did feel that the disparity in wealth was immoral or an economic problem.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-925062"><em>Phoenix Woman @ 137</em></a></p>
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John Edwards gets dinged for being rich and good-looking and having good grooming habits, whereas Romney is praised and drooled over for same.</p>
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<p>I confronted a Repub friend about that. He’d been saying what a hypocrite Edwards was for having a big house, being rich, paying a lot for the haircut and then saying he was all for the poor.</p>
<p>I think it’s just a rationalization for the fact they don’t have anything else to dislike except that he’s a Dem.</p>
<p>When I confronted my friend he was just kind of blank. He didn’t really have a thought on the matter. Heck, maybe he was just repeating talking points. You know how these guys are: the borg tells them what to do and say.</p>
<p>I don’t think it ever occurred to him that Edwards actually did feel that the disparity in wealth was immoral or an economic problem.</p>
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		<title>By: yellowdog jim</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/27/friends-shouldnt-help-friends-revive-bad-bills/#comment-925652</link>
		<dc:creator>yellowdog jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 05:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;TRex has got your &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/08/27/late-late-nite-fdl-pansies-perverts-and-pedophiles/&quot;&gt;Late, Late&lt;/a&gt; upstairs.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TRex has got your <a href="http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/08/27/late-late-nite-fdl-pansies-perverts-and-pedophiles/">Late, Late</a> upstairs.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/27/friends-shouldnt-help-friends-revive-bad-bills/#comment-925622</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 05:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-924974&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Jonathan @ 52&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;FDL is a good place to hang out.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And to get some good ideas…lots of good ideas.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And from which to contribute to ActBlue candidates.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I wonder, though, what is its future?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Internet is a fabulous tool for communication and blogs are the core of mass discussions. Used in the political world we’re able to increase the power of the public and that shifts the balance away from the few and towards the many. This will increase the cost to the Rich to maintain their current advantages or it might force them to listen a little to other views of how the world might be shaped to work better for everybody.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don’t necessarily believe that public financing of elections is the answer. I don’t feel so certain the Rich won’t simply find some way to interfere to their own benefit. Besides, it would tax some people who aren’t all that interested or can’t afford to participate in politics.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What kind of arguments really get to the Rich? I’d suggest you approach them conceptually the same as anyone else: you find what they’re interested in and discuss with them ways to do it better, for them and everyone. Sometimes they aren’t disagreeable so much as simply uninformed or uninvolved.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-924974"><em>Jonathan @ 52</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>FDL is a good place to hang out.</p>
<p>And to get some good ideas…lots of good ideas.</p>
<p>And from which to contribute to ActBlue candidates.</p>
<p>I wonder, though, what is its future?</p>
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<p>The Internet is a fabulous tool for communication and blogs are the core of mass discussions. Used in the political world we’re able to increase the power of the public and that shifts the balance away from the few and towards the many. This will increase the cost to the Rich to maintain their current advantages or it might force them to listen a little to other views of how the world might be shaped to work better for everybody.</p>
<p>I don’t necessarily believe that public financing of elections is the answer. I don’t feel so certain the Rich won’t simply find some way to interfere to their own benefit. Besides, it would tax some people who aren’t all that interested or can’t afford to participate in politics.</p>
<p>What kind of arguments really get to the Rich? I’d suggest you approach them conceptually the same as anyone else: you find what they’re interested in and discuss with them ways to do it better, for them and everyone. Sometimes they aren’t disagreeable so much as simply uninformed or uninvolved.</p>
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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/27/friends-shouldnt-help-friends-revive-bad-bills/#comment-925579</link>
		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 05:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-925029&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;GSD @ 106&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;The two most disturbing aspects of the Larry Craig story are:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1) Leaving the stall without flushing.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;2) Leaving the restroom without washing his hands.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Larry Craig is a very dirty, dirty boy.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;-GSD&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And there is no evidence he “wiped”. But maybe he doesn’t need to with his “wide stance”.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-925029"><em>GSD @ 106</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>The two most disturbing aspects of the Larry Craig story are:</p>
<p>1) Leaving the stall without flushing.</p>
<p>2) Leaving the restroom without washing his hands.</p>
<p>Larry Craig is a very dirty, dirty boy.</p>
<p>-GSD</p>
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<p>And there is no evidence he “wiped”. But maybe he doesn’t need to with his “wide stance”.</p>
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		<title>By: alank</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/27/friends-shouldnt-help-friends-revive-bad-bills/#comment-925503</link>
		<dc:creator>alank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 04:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I was extremely disappointed when the American Friends Service Committee, ecumenical though they were, bought into the bogus “war on terror” marketing campaign launched by the Washington Warmongers™ before the smoke had cleared at ground zero of the WTC towers attack.  I chastised them for this gross impropriety, straightaway.  These are moments when the Quakers’ beliefs are really tested and I must say they failed miserably.  To this latest let-down, I merely say, pish and posh!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was extremely disappointed when the American Friends Service Committee, ecumenical though they were, bought into the bogus “war on terror” marketing campaign launched by the Washington Warmongers™ before the smoke had cleared at ground zero of the WTC towers attack.  I chastised them for this gross impropriety, straightaway.  These are moments when the Quakers’ beliefs are really tested and I must say they failed miserably.  To this latest let-down, I merely say, pish and posh!</p>
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		<title>By: newspaperbrat</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/27/friends-shouldnt-help-friends-revive-bad-bills/#comment-925241</link>
		<dc:creator>newspaperbrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 03:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-925124&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;LS @ 197&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;It gets worse..they f’ing never learn..now they are begging:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.slate.com/id/2172861/entry/0/&quot;&gt;http://www.slate.com/id/2172861/entry/0/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What the hapless Haggard is begging for is a major fraud indictment by the IRS. Nonprofit organizations, be they animal shelters, church resale shops or art museums require a detailed applicationprocess. This takes months and as much as a year to complete the process to receive IRS nonprofit 501 designation approval.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Given his background in church ministries there can be no excuse for Haggard not knowing these facts.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-925124"><em>LS @ 197</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>It gets worse..they f’ing never learn..now they are begging:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.slate.com/id/2172861/entry/0/">http://www.slate.com/id/2172861/entry/0/</a></p>
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<p>What the hapless Haggard is begging for is a major fraud indictment by the IRS. Nonprofit organizations, be they animal shelters, church resale shops or art museums require a detailed applicationprocess. This takes months and as much as a year to complete the process to receive IRS nonprofit 501 designation approval.</p>
<p>Given his background in church ministries there can be no excuse for Haggard not knowing these facts.</p>
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		<title>By: GSD</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/08/27/friends-shouldnt-help-friends-revive-bad-bills/#comment-925211</link>
		<dc:creator>GSD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 03:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Despite Frances reluctance to engage in Iraq, they have a pretty shabby colonial record.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Read about the Rwanda genocide. France was pretty despicable during that atrocity.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now they have a wanna-be player on their hands. I can’t wait for a baguette chomping Bush to yell out “Yo, Sarkozy”.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;-GSD&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Despite Frances reluctance to engage in Iraq, they have a pretty shabby colonial record.</p>
<p>Read about the Rwanda genocide. France was pretty despicable during that atrocity.</p>
<p>Now they have a wanna-be player on their hands. I can’t wait for a baguette chomping Bush to yell out “Yo, Sarkozy”.</p>
<p>-GSD</p>
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		<title>By: GordonM</title>
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		<dc:creator>GordonM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 03:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/08/27/late-nite-fdl-nah-nah-hey-hey-get-the-fk-out-already/&quot;&gt;New Thread&lt;/a&gt; courtesy of your always modest zedster.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/08/27/late-nite-fdl-nah-nah-hey-hey-get-the-fk-out-already/">New Thread</a> courtesy of your always modest zedster.</p>
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