zunoed?

fussed, sickened, thud

punaise @ 2

fussed, sickened, thud

And out at home by a heffer step.

PW, here’s my Head-*n, you certainly need it more than I do…!!!

When did Congress start listening to Quakers?

QG?

When did the Quakers start lobbying for violent occupations?

Eureka Springs @ 6

When did the Quakers start lobbying for violent occupations?

“Quaker Oats are shot from guns”

(never understood that one, anyway)

We fuck around about Iraq.

We need to pull out.

Let the ME work out its own solution, whatever that is.

And accept the bloodshed in the interim.

No Dem or Repub is willing to let that happen.

Eureka Springs @ 6

When did the Quakers start lobbying for violent occupations?

That’s the $64,000 question…!!!

Loo Hoo. @ 5

When did Congress start listening to Quakers?

At least 49 Senators listen very intently to a very, very lame quacker.

Aside from (I hope) their absolute anti-war stance, how do Quakers line up these days? Is there such a thing as a Republican Quaker?

Being “snookered” is fast becoming more than just a casual past-time for many of the invertebrate Democrats, it’s becoming a lifestyle.

I fear that as the ‘08 election grows closer, actual spine will become harder and harder to find as “speed triangulation” occurs as campaigns intensify.

I’m sorry the Quakers got suckered, but they’re hardly the first (and won’t be the last) to get taken by the words/action of the Beltway’s “Wise and Serious Old Men”.

baker’s dozen

GordonM @ 10

Loo Hoo. @ 5

When did Congress start listening to Quakers?

At least 49 Senators listen very intently to a very, very lame quacker.

No! Not when punaise is about…!!! *g*

punaise @ 7

Eureka Springs @ 6

When did the Quakers start lobbying for violent occupations?

“Quaker Oats are shot from guns”

(never understood that one, anyway)

Me either, but I do know that Malt-o-meal loads in a .38 work very well for killing flies without damaging the drywall.

Loo Hoo. @ 5

When did Congress start listening to Quakers?

QG?

At least as far back as Herbert Hoover’s 1929 State of the Union report. Hoover was a Quaker, as was Nixon.

Sadly, they would not be representative of the Quakers of my acquaintance.

CTuttle @ 14

GordonM @ 10

At least 49 Senators listen very intently to a very, very lame quacker.

No! Not when punaise is about…!!! *g*

my contempt for Joe Lieberman…

Peterr @ 16

Loo Hoo. @ 5

When did Congress start listening to Quakers?

QG?

At least as far back as Herbert Hoover’s 1929 State of the Union report. Hoover was a Quaker, as was Nixon.

Sadly, they would not be representative of the Quakers of my acquaintance.

Heh, Vermont’s one Prez! Nixon is news to me… Dang, learn something new…!!! *g*
My bad, his predecessor ’silent cal’ was from Vermont, Iowa is where Hoover was born!!! 8-(

I like Quakers.

I work with them.

Do I believe all Quakers tell the truth as they know it?

No.

We’re never going to get good government as long as the present system of financing elections remains unchanged.

Oklahoma kiddo @ 20

We’re never going to get good government as long as the present system of financing elections remains unchanged.

Unless Gore wins.

Thanks for the post. Just furthers the argument for atheism. When my barber (or anyone) asks about what’cha doing for easter It’s “I’m not religious.” Eschew hypocrisy.

Eureka Springs @ 6

When did the Quakers start lobbying for violent occupations?

Um, yeah.

The impression I get from their website is that they think the bill’s a step in the right direction, when in fact it’s worse than nothing as it gives Bush carte blanche while pretending to rap his knuckles.

behindthefall @ 11

Aside from (I hope) their absolute anti-war stance, how do Quakers line up these days? Is there such a thing as a Republican Quaker?

Yep – I think his name was Richard Nixon…am I right?

behindthefall @ 11

Aside from (I hope) their absolute anti-war stance, how do Quakers line up these days? Is there such a thing as a Republican Quaker?

In the 109th Congress, there was but one Quaker: Dem. Rush Holt (NJ-12).

Oklahoma kiddo @ 20

We’re never going to get good government as long as the present system of financing elections remains unchanged.

http://www.publicampaign.org

They’re the Clean Elections people.

Toby Wollin @ 24

behindthefall @ 11

Aside from (I hope) their absolute anti-war stance, how do Quakers line up these days? Is there such a thing as a Republican Quaker?

Yep – I think his name was Richard Nixon…am I right?

Yup. On his mother’s side.

I think that was ‘Quaker puffed rice’ and ‘Quaker puffed wheat’ that were shot from guns. ;0)

Airport Cat @ 15

punaise @ 7

“Quaker Oats are shot from guns”

(never understood that one, anyway)

Me either, but I do know that Malt-o-meal loads in a .38 work very well for killing flies without damaging the drywall.

You’re kidding! I want to try that.

How was the birthday CTuttle?

Phoenix Woman @ 23

Eureka Springs @ 6

When did the Quakers start lobbying for violent occupations?

Um, yeah.

The impression I get from their website is that they think the bill’s a step in the right direction, when in fact it’s worse than nothing as it gives Bush carte blanche while pretending to rap his knuckles.

Any way to tell them that?

Loo Hoo — Thank you thank you! The internet cable arrived safe and sound. Thanks so much.

Phoenix Woman @ 23

Eureka Springs @ 6

When did the Quakers start lobbying for violent occupations?

Um, yeah.

The impression I get from their website is that they think the bill’s a step in the right direction, when in fact it’s worse than nothing as it gives Bush carte blanche while pretending to rap his knuckles.

Nixon was a Quaker.. that explains so much.

Asking Bushco to conduct diplomacy and ask folks like this Iranians for permission to leave Iraq? Move over, PW.. I need to bang my head on the wall with ya.

This is comforting. An armed guard found asleep at Indian Point Nuclear plant, 35 miles N of NYC:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/…..=printable

Oklahoma kiddo @ 28

I think that was ‘Quaker puffed rice’ and ‘Quaker puffed wheat’ that were shot from guns. ;0)

Punaise, :P

TexBetsy @ 32

Loo Hoo — Thank you thank you! The internet cable arrived safe and sound. Thanks so much.

Excellent! Thought I put it in the pocket of that suitcase.

I was resting earlier and had this little daydream. The military leaders ,who understand that this war is decimating the various branches, their families and the country, and that our troops could be benefiting humanity helping with the disasters we have seen in the world, and that our country is going bankrupt financially and morally, well you get the idea— these military leaders finally got fed up with watching George Bush pretend he knows something about war or about the armed services and they took over. They went into the Oval Office and took it over. They went into Congress and said, It’s over, stop the rhetoric and create a new administration and just get over the political nonsense. The war is killing the country, the president is a fool and you need to start over. We’re waiting.

I am not a military person and would certainly have a stroke if one of my sons joined the service. I have no idea where this little fantasy came from, but I do believe that there are Generals who have good hearts and enlisted folk who want what’s best for the country and don’t believe it’s war. Seth Moulton, Paul Reikhoff, Abby Pickett to name a Few I would trust them not to shoot me for being a liberal.

It made me feel good. I can’t explain it.

Happy Birthday to you CTuttle!
Now, pass it over.
I can’t inhale online. :)
But, I can remember.

Loo Hoo. @ 36

TexBetsy @ 32

Loo Hoo — Thank you thank you! The internet cable arrived safe and sound. Thanks so much.

Excellent! Thought I put it in the pocket of that suitcase.

i thought you were still using it when i went off to get the wheelchair tire repaired.

Look, I’m really angry about the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq but I’m not suspicious about 9/11.

Loo Hoo. @ 30

How was the birthday CTuttle?

A lot better, since the better half was delayed in departure!!! Mortician conflicts are delaying the inevitable…

LS @ 34

This is comforting. An armed guard found asleep at Indian Point Nuclear plant, 35 miles N of NYC:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl
e.cgi?file=/n/a/2007/08/27/national/
a143203D05.DTL&type=printable

Hum, two twelve hour shifts the day before? 6 AM? Sounds to me like it ain’t the security guard’s fault.

He said security guards are rotated from post to post during their 12-hour shifts — “in part to keep them attentive” — and the guard had worked two previous posts on Sunday. His shift began at 6 a.m.

CTuttle, oh my gosh, I forgot to ask what happened with your mother in law? Did your wife make it in time?

Ha! The Larry Craig (one of Mitt’s biggest supporters) video with his thoughts on Romney, has already been removed from Youtube:

67 United States soldiers dead in Iraq since Congress went on vacation.

O/T in my own post, but I had to mention this:

I’ve been offline most of the day, so I didn’t see the news about Larry Craig until just now.

I can just hear Jane snickering as she typed that post. ;-)

jayt @ 45

67 United States soldiers dead in Iraq since Congress went on vacation.

lest we forget.

Sorry Mods..that link just went craaazy!

At least as far back as Herbert Hoover’s 1929 State of the Union report. Hoover was a Quaker, as was Nixon.

Sadly, they would not be representative of the Quakers of my acquaintance.

Heh, Vermont’s one Prez! Nixon is news to me… Dang, learn something new…!!! *g*

Uh uh. That was Calvin Coolidge.

Pretend for a moment that tomorrow morning Gore declares. Can you imagine!

LS @ 34

This is comforting. An armed guard found asleep at Indian Point Nuclear plant, 35 miles N of NYC:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/…..=printable

Best part of this, IMHO is that these guys are working, largely alone, on 12 hour shifts over the weekend.

FDL is a good place to hang out.

And to get some good ideas…lots of good ideas.

And from which to contribute to ActBlue candidates.

I wonder, though, what is its future?

carolyn urban @ 49

At least as far back as Herbert Hoover’s 1929 State of the Union report. Hoover was a Quaker, as was Nixon.

Sadly, they would not be representative of the Quakers of my acquaintance.

Heh, Vermont’s one Prez! Nixon is news to me… Dang, learn something new…!!! *g*

Uh uh. That was Calvin Coolidge.

I amended my comment…!!! *g*

PW, I am just WAITING to see what TRex comes up with on that one!

zennurse @ 37

I was resting earlier and had this little daydream. The military leaders…took over. They went into the Oval Office and took it over.
I would trust them not to shoot me for being a liberal.

I can’t think of a military putsch anywhere, ever, that didn’t get around to shooting the liberals.

Oklahoma kiddo @ 50

Pretend for a moment that tomorrow morning Gore declares. Can you imagine!

He’s been awfully quiet lately. The only “bad” thing I heard, was an interview with his daughter, and she said she knew “for a fact” that he had no plans to run. I think the interview was in July. It was vague enough though to leave the door open.

LS @ 44

Ha! The Larry Craig (one of Mitt’s biggest supporters) video with his thoughts on Romney, has already “>been removed from Youtube:

I suspect this might blunt some of the fangirling our manly-men More Hetero Than Thou punditterati have for Romney. They can’t stand to actually openly brush hands with TEH GAY!!! OMG!!!!

RonD @ 55

zennurse @ 37

I was resting earlier and had this little daydream. The military leaders…took over. They went into the Oval Office and took it over.
I would trust them not to shoot me for being a liberal.

I can’t think of a military putsch anywhere, ever, that didn’t get around to shooting the liberals.

They are usually the first ones up against the wall.

-GSD

TexBetsy @ 54

PW, I am just WAITING to see what TRex comes up with on that one!

it should be good!

LS @ 48

Sorry Mods..that link just went craaazy!

Did you have a link to a youtube or was it proof that it had been removed. I just love this republican sleeze! Hypocritical sleeze no less.

LARRY! Whatcha got?

zennurse @ 43

CTuttle, oh my gosh, I forgot to ask what happened with your mother in law? Did your wife make it in time?

She died the next morn, Ma’am! 8-(

Jonathan @ 52

FDL is a good place to hang out.

And to get some good ideas…lots of good ideas.

And from which to contribute to ActBlue candidates.

I wonder, though, what is its future?

The impression here is that good blogs will continue to grow and evolve. The genie is out of the bottle. ;0)

Sorry to hear CT.

-GSD

Betsy, I could have been using it. I don’t know why I caught that on my way out and not my phone charger, though. Want to guess what Hyatt charged me to get my $20.00 phone charger back?

Poking around Holt’s website, I came across this statement from Aug 3 on the bill to update FISA :

Rep. Rush Holt (NJ-12), Chairman of the Select Intelligence Oversight Panel, today released the following statement on the Defend Our Country and Our Constitution Act (H.R. 3356), a bill to update the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act to fill potential gaps in intelligence collection abroad. . . .

. . . I am disturbed that this bill would allow warrantless surveillance to be conducted for as long as six weeks even without any warrant from the court and from then on with only partial oversight of a court. I do not want to suspend the Constitution for convenience of a government agency or to give it more time to act. If the responsiveness of the court is a problem, the remedy is not to gut civil liberties protections for Americans – it is to hire more judges and judicial staff to process FISA applications more quickly.

One of the characteristics of oppressive governments that we detest is that they spy on their own people. The chilling intrusion into people’s lives, effects, and relationships must be controlled even if the government thinks the intrusion is necessary to preserve safety, security, and order. Indeed, civil protections are necessary especially if the government officers say they are trying to protect safety, security, and order. Our government must establish that there is probable cause to believe the American is a threat to society, and it is the courts – not the Attorney General and not the Director of National Intelligence – who must make sure those safeguards are applied.

We can strike a balance between protecting our nation and protecting the rights to which all Americans are entitled. Unfortunately, this legislation misses the mark.

Sounds like at least one Quaker is thinking clearly about BushCo. Perhaps Holt could talk to his fellow Quakers about this bill, and it might help. Any residents of NJ-12 around, who could give Holt’s office a call?

[His statement on Iraq isn’t too bad either (though it seems to have been written last year, and hasn’t been updated).]

Loo Hoo. @ 60

LS @ 48

Sorry Mods..that link just went craaazy!

Did you have a link to a youtube or was it proof that it had been removed. I just love this republican sleeze! Hypocritical sleeze no less.

LARRY! Whatcha got?

Proof that it was removed. Go to youtube and punch in Larry Craig Mitt Romney, and it says it has been removed. Mr. LS found the “story” in the Rawstory article, Senator Arrested in Men’s Room.

Oklahoma kiddo @ 20

We’re never going to get good government as long as the present system of financing elections remains unchanged.

I’m a bit ambivalent Okloahoma Kiddo. Here in Australia we have public funding of elections but the problem is – how much do you give to each candidate? What happens here is that payments are made after the election. Provided that you received more than 4% of the vote, you are paid at the rate of $2 a vote. Parties still do fundraising.

Do you know of a system of public funding that’s better than this?

Elliott @ 59

TexBetsy @ 54

PW, I am just WAITING to see what TRex comes up with on that one!

it should be good!

So Craig shall be the recipient of TRex’s jowls Tonite???

How much Loo Hoo?

GSD @ 58

RonD @ 55

I can’t think of a military putsch anywhere, ever, that didn’t get around to shooting the liberals.

They are usually the first ones up against the wall.

-GSD

I know, I know, I think I’m losing my mind. GSD, you know me, no military bones in my body, idealistic Pollyanna all the way. How can I be comforted by thoughts of a military coup? This country is making me crazy.

LS @ 66

Loo Hoo. @ 60

Did you have a link to a youtube or was it proof that it had been removed. I just love this republican sleeze! Hypocritical sleeze no less.

LARRY! Whatcha got?

Proof that it was removed. Go to youtube and punch in Larry Craig Mitt Romney, and it says it has been removed. Mr. LS found the “story” in the Rawstory article, Senator Arrested in Men’s Room.

Talking Points Memo reports the same thing.

LS @ 48

Sorry Mods..that link just went craaazy!

wow. That link went right off the page and landed on my next open window!

(s’okay, it wasn’t anything all that great anyhooo)

OKK – I love your posts.

I worry about echo here, though.

So sorry, CTuttle.

sorry for the ot but more gonzales info from raw story

one of the fired ag’s says rove and abu resigning is definately linked

Like President Bush’s top political adviser, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales resigned to avoid encroaching Congressional investigations, a fired federal prosecutor said Monday.

During an appearance on CNN, former US Attorney David Iglesias said Gonzales’s resignation is “absolutely linked with Karl Rove leaving two weeks ago,” and speculated the two resigned “for the same reason”: Congressional investigators closing in on their suspected roles in the attorney-firing scandal.

“This is what happens when there is not check and balance” under a Republican-controlled Congress and White House “and all of a sudden you have a new sheriff in town – so to speak – that wants answers to hard questions.”

CTuttle @ 61

zennurse @ 43

CTuttle, oh my gosh, I forgot to ask what happened with your mother in law? Did your wife make it in time?

She died the next morn, Ma’am! 8-(

All Blessings to her and to your family. I sent strong hopes for her peaceful and painless passing. Sorry I didn’t ask earlier.

zennurse @ 37

I was resting earlier and had this little daydream. The military leaders ,who understand that this war is decimating the various branches, their families and the country, and that our troops could be benefiting humanity helping with the disasters we have seen in the world, and that our country is going bankrupt financially and morally, well you get the idea— these military leaders finally got fed up with watching George Bush pretend he knows something about war or about the armed services and they took over. They went into the Oval Office and took it over. They went into Congress and said, It’s over, stop the rhetoric and create a new administration and just get over the political nonsense. The war is killing the country, the president is a fool and you need to start over. We’re waiting.

I am not a military person and would certainly have a stroke if one of my sons joined the service. I have no idea where this little fantasy came from, but I do believe that there are Generals who have good hearts and enlisted folk who want what’s best for the country and don’t believe it’s war. Seth Moulton, Paul Reikhoff, Abby Pickett to name a Few I would trust them not to shoot me for being a liberal.

It made me feel good. I can’t explain it.

And it’s come to this. A military coup is an attractive proposition. What have we done to the world?

My condolences, CT. Not an easy thing to deal with.
Did you get my b-day song ?

a different sort of stand-up comic: (wide-stance) Larry the Gay-bull Guy

GSD @ 63

Sorry to hear CT.

-GSD

Mahalo Nui Loa! The Lake runs mighty deep and mighty wide with much compassion and concern, it is truly a font of strength and wisdom!!! 8-)

$56.00

Loo Hoo. @ 81

$56.00

I don’t get it.
Was that the postage?

Elliott @ 71

LS @ 66

Proof that it was removed. Go to youtube and punch in Larry Craig Mitt Romney, and it says it has been removed. Mr. LS found the “story” in the Rawstory article, Senator Arrested in Men’s Room.

Talking Points Memo reports the same thing.

Even the CNN online article notes the removal of the YouTube video. Some things you just can’t hide, can you? Actually, the CNN article was quite entertaining, it had part of the report from the arresting officer.

OMG! $56 to let you in to the room?

demi @ 78

My condolences, CT. Not an easy thing to deal with.
Did you get my b-day song ?

Sure did! Somebody sent the Beatles version on FB, and, Ya’ll are terrific!!! *g*

persiflage @ 67

Oklahoma kiddo @ 20

We’re never going to get good government as long as the present system of financing elections remains unchanged.

I’m a bit ambivalent Okloahoma Kiddo. Here in Australia we have public funding of elections but the problem is – how much do you give to each candidate? What happens here is that payments are made after the election. Provided that you received more than 4% of the vote, you are paid at the rate of $2 a vote. Parties still do fundraising.

Do you know of a system of public funding that’s better than this?

Perhaps a good place to start would be at the link provided by Phoenix Woman above at #26. ;0)

persiflage @ 67

Oklahoma kiddo @ 20

We’re never going to get good government as long as the present system of financing elections remains unchanged.

I’m a bit ambivalent Okloahoma Kiddo. Here in Australia we have public funding of elections but the problem is – how much do you give to each candidate? What happens here is that payments are made after the election. Provided that you received more than 4% of the vote, you are paid at the rate of $2 a vote. Parties still do fundraising.

Do you know of a system of public funding that’s better than this?

We have Clean Elections here in Maine, and it seems to work, although Maine is not very representative in many ways of the US (we’d probably be a good Canadian province, hint, hint).

My criticism of OKK’s statement is that votes can override dollars. Get people pissed off enough, and the dollars don’t mean much. Unfortunately, it takes an unbelievable amount of effort to actually piss most Americans off enough to vote.

ccmask @ 21

Oklahoma kiddo @ 20

We’re never going to get good government as long as the present system of financing elections remains unchanged.

Unless Gore wins.

Stop my pounding heart!

ReElect President Gore & VP Edwards 2008!

I wish you all a good night, please don’t think I mean what my dream implies. I needed to share it and know this is a safe place.

Re: the future of FDL, I arrived here from a link at C&L about 2 years ago searching for a Libby story. It was a lot smaller then and only Jane and ReddHedd (Christy, incognito) were posting. It has grown in size and scope, but has remained true to its roots. Jane and Christy have created a community which supports its members and moves the important issues forward. They have also been incredibly responsive to a very vocal readership’s input and suggestions. I don’t see that changing and I believe there is huge potential as we move into the elections.

JMO

Since some of you enjoyed James Moore’s comments on CountDown,
an article on Huffingtonpost written by him.

TexBetsy @ 84

OMG! $56 to let you in to the room?

Energy surcharge? After all, with a charger you’re taking their electricity with you.

punaise @ 79

a different sort of stand-up comic: (wide-stance) Larry the Gay-bull Guy

Punaise is back! Yay!

G’night, zennurse!

zennurse @ 89

Jane and Christy have created a community which supports its members and moves the important issues forward. They have also been incredibly responsive to a very vocal readership’s input and suggestions. I don’t see that changing and I believe there is huge potential as we move into the elections.

JMO

{{{zennurse}}}

zennurse @ 89

I wish you all a good night, please don’t think I mean what my dream implies. I needed to share it and know this is a safe place.

Re: the future of FDL, I arrived here from a link at C&L about 2 years ago searching for a Libby story. It was a lot smaller then and only Jane and ReddHedd (Christy, incognito) were posting. It has grown in size and scope, but has remained true to its roots. Jane and Christy have created a community which supports its members and moves the important issues forward. They have also been incredibly responsive to a very vocal readership’s input and suggestions. I don’t see that changing and I believe there is huge potential as we move into the elections.

JMO

Namaste Zennurse

zennurse @ 89

I wish you all a good night, please don’t think I mean what my dream implies. I needed to share it and know this is a safe place.

Re: the future of FDL, I arrived here from a link at C&L about 2 years ago searching for a Libby story. It was a lot smaller then and only Jane and ReddHedd (Christy, incognito) were posting. It has grown in size and scope, but has remained true to its roots. Jane and Christy have created a community which supports its members and moves the important issues forward. They have also been incredibly responsive to a very vocal readership’s input and suggestions. I don’t see that changing and I believe there is huge potential as we move into the elections.

JMO

Z

I’m recently a firepup.

I love this place (for self-gratification).

Please come back.

newspaperbrat @ 88

ccmask @ 21

Unless Gore wins.

Stop my pounding heart!

ReElect President Gore & VP Edwards 2009!

Honestly, what makes ya’ll think that Gore wants to prostrate himself, all over again??? Hmmm… He’s not Dah-clayed fer a reason…

demi @ 82

Loo Hoo. @ 81

$56.00

I don’t get it.
Was that the postage?

For a 5 ounce phone charger?

zennurse @ 89

I wish you all a good night, please don’t think I mean what my dream implies. I needed to share it and know this is a safe place.

Re: the future of FDL, I arrived here from a link at C&L about 2 years ago searching for a Libby story. It was a lot smaller then and only Jane and ReddHedd (Christy, incognito) were posting. It has grown in size and scope, but has remained true to its roots. Jane and Christy have created a community which supports its members and moves the important issues forward. They have also been incredibly responsive to a very vocal readership’s input and suggestions. I don’t see that changing and I believe there is huge potential as we move into the elections.

JMO

Darcy Burner, and the fresh $100K she’s received over the last few days, would likely agree with you on the “huge potential” statement.

TexBetsy @ 84

OMG! $56 to let you in to the room?

No, to mail it to me.

Zen Nurse @89 -

((((((((((JANE & REDD))))))))))

Loo Hoo. @ 97

demi @ 82

I don’t get it.
Was that the postage?

For a 5 ounce phone charger?

They don’t sell electronics by weight:) oops

Loo Hoo. @ 97

demi @ 82

I don’t get it.
Was that the postage?

For a 5 ounce phone charger?

Terribly unfair. Well, they won’t get Our repeat business. Fer sure.

I have to wonder if Quakers are encouraging thier youngsters to join up and support that little ISG report.

zennurse @ 89

I wish you all a good night, please don’t think I mean what my dream implies. I needed to share it and know this is a safe place.

Re: the future of FDL, I arrived here from a link at C&L about 2 years ago searching for a Libby story. It was a lot smaller then and only Jane and ReddHedd (Christy, incognito) were posting. It has grown in size and scope, but has remained true to its roots. Jane and Christy have created a community which supports its members and moves the important issues forward. They have also been incredibly responsive to a very vocal readership’s input and suggestions. I don’t see that changing and I believe there is huge potential as we move into the elections.

JMO

So true, Ma’am, pleasant dreams!!!

Eureka Springs @ 103

I have to wonder if Quakers are encouraging thier youngsters to join up and support that little ISG report.

subversive little b*st*rds

The two most disturbing aspects of the Larry Craig story are:

1) Leaving the stall without flushing.

2) Leaving the restroom without washing his hands.

Larry Craig is a very dirty, dirty boy.

-GSD

zennurse, I’ve had those thoughts too. Christy smacked me upside the head for them! She’s right. The last thing we want is a military govt., especially with the Blackwater contingent.

Final note, just a good link from Larry Johnson:

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2…..-al-anbar/

g’night

Loo Hoo. @ 99

TexBetsy @ 84

OMG! $56 to let you in to the room?

No, to mail it to me.

At least it’s not at the DoD’s postage rate for $.29 washers… $6mil??? ;-)

demi @ 102

Loo Hoo. @ 97

For a 5 ounce phone charger?

Terribly unfair. Well, they won’t get Our repeat business. Fer sure.

Exactly. Stupid business. They ripped me off for $40., but I will never again stay in a Hyatt. And I travel.

GSD @ 106

The two most disturbing aspects of the Larry Craig story are:

1) Leaving the stall without flushing.

2) Leaving the restroom without washing his hands.

Larry Craig is a very dirty, dirty boy.

-GSD

…laughing hysterically….

zennurse @ 108

Final note, just a good link from Larry Johnson:

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2…..-al-anbar/

g’night

this is a great link, thank you and good night.

PW,

The Q&A from the first link of your post is very depressing. “Naive” is the most charitable term that comes to mind, and let’s just leave the less charitable terms unspoken.

Q: But doesn’t the ISG bill take the pressure off Congress to change policy. I support the FCNL position that the U.S. should withdraw military troops from Iraq and participate in internationally led effort to rebuild the country. The ISG bill essentially gives members of Congress a way to say they are doing something, while doing very little or nothing.

A: It’s possible that some members might seek political cover behind the bill while doing nothing to implement its provisions. But anyone taking this tact is not likely to fool many people for very long. The ISG bill establishes a new level of Congressional oversight of Iraq policy by requiring quarterly reports from the administration. Any members who shy away from aggressively exercising this oversight will stand out in the public mind very soon.

It’s possible that members might use the bill for political cover? Possible? Really? Who could have anticipated . . .

*sigh*

zennurse @ 89

I wish you all a good night, please don’t think I mean what my dream implies. I needed to share it and know this is a safe place.

[snip]

zennurse: don’t feel bad about your dream. Given the horrible mess this admin has created, we all feel the need to be rescued, the need for some safety and the need to return to something like normal.

Generals could do it, but of course the problem would be what happens next. There are certainly well-intentioned generals, but once that kind of power falls into military hands, before long a not so nice one would grab it…

GSD @ 106

The two most disturbing aspects of the Larry Craig story are:

1) Leaving the stall without flushing.

2) Leaving the restroom without washing his hands.

Larry Craig is a very dirty, dirty boy.

-GSD

Nawty, Nawty…!!!

GSD, you have a very special way with words, bud. I always look forward to your “breaking” news. Totally different flavor than punaise, but just as rich!

Zennurse,

Yeah. It is really a sad time for this Republic.

I honestly think that it may have slipped away from us all.

I hope not, but the more I look the less I like what I see.

I also feel that Bush would have a hard time turning the military against America.

It is just what I feel.

-GSD

Loo Hoo. @ 116

GSD, you have a very special way with words, bud. I always look forward to your “breaking” news. Totally different flavor than punaise, but just as rich!

:>

Get distracted.

About some worthless Republican senator seeking a blowj*b in the Minneapolis airport.

Sure. Get some Dem to replace him.

Meantime, he’s a distraction.

Iraq’s the place to focus.

CTuttle @ 109

Loo Hoo. @ 99

No, to mail it to me.

At least it’s not at the DoD’s postage rate for $.29 washers… $6mil??? ;-)

No exaggerating. It was only a million and they bought and sent more than 1!

GSD @ 118

Loo Hoo. @ 116

GSD, you have a very special way with words, bud. I always look forward to your “breaking” news. Totally different flavor than punaise, but just as rich!

:>

Always funny and always true!

GSD @ 117

Zennurse,

Yeah. It is really a sad time for this Republic.

I honestly think that it may have slipped away from us all.

I hope not, but the more I look the less I like what I see.

I also feel that Bush would have a hard time turning the military against America.

It is just what I feel.

-GSD

I concur, the military will be reluctant…!!!

OT: I just got a note from Steve Porter. Apparently he’s been booted off of Daily Kos because he is now an independent.

That is a sorry statement in my opinion. I’ll be sending him more money I think.

GSD @ 117

Zennurse,

Yeah. It is really a sad time for this Republic.

I honestly think that it may have slipped away from us all.

I hope not, but the more I look the less I like what I see.

I also feel that Bush would have a hard time turning the military against America.

It is just what I feel.

-GSD

this is what Ian Welsh said on the subject Saturday, if it’s any comfort:

The upper military brass is pretty angry right now and don’t support Iran. I’ve even heard rumors that many of them will resign rather than attack Iran.

Lower military – still more Republican than Democratic. Still too many of them think that Iraq was behind 9/11, for example.

But the silver lining on Iraq was showing the military what Republicans really think of them, and what they really want to do with them.

Not that I enjoy sending traffic his way. But look at what Drudge is screaming about today.

Sarkozy channels McCain.

-GSD

Ha! Conservative bloggers not sorry Abu resigned via Think Progress:

does a review of the conservative blogosphere’s reaction to the Gonzales resignation and finds “there is precious little love lost for the departing AG.” RedState writes, “I am not sorry to see AGAG go.” Andy McCarthy at the National Review writes the “resignation was overdue,” and Captain’s Quarters adds that Gonzales’ attorney scandal “has been a royal embarrassment.”

What would you think would be bigger news — and hit the press quicker?

– A congressman (Bob Filner) lipping off to and pushing airport security personnel, OR:

– A male Senator (Larry Craig) caught trying to solicit sex from a male undercover cop in an airport bathroom known as a meeting-place for sex trysts?

The Filner (Democrat) altercation happened on August 19 and was national news within hours. The Craig (Republican) incident occurred June 11, and I and the rest of the world are only hearing about it now — even though stories about the gay-bashing conservative Republican Craig’s penchant for airport sex with men have been circulating online and elsewhere for a while.

Oh, and will the oh-so-aggressively-hetero pundits currently fangirling Mitt Romney (in a perfectly hetero manner, mind you) keep it up now that Mitt’s biggest ally (and — until recently — Senate liaison for Romney’s campaign, as this abruptly zapped YouTube video showed) has been caught trying to solicit illicit man-nookie? Fangirling is OK with them only so long as they don’t, you know, actually brush hands openly with gayness.

OKK. I just had a thought. What’s really needed is Truth in Political Advertising legislation. All this nastiness, this gutter stuff, the Ann Coulters and the Melanie Morgans of this world only thrives in a poisonous atmosphere and that toxin spreads around society. The road rage, the rise of television shows where one person is ritually humiliated every week, it all comes from the same place.
People talk about civility in the blogosphere when what we should be talking about is civility in politics. Force candidates to sell themselves and their ideas, rather than denigrate their opponents by demanding that all ads are reviewed indepently to ensure that the information in the ad is not misleading.

Massive fines for airing misleading ads. And who could vote against it? “Sen Vitter votes to give himself permission to lie!”

Just a thought.

Has everyone preordered their Fair Game book by Valerie Wilson?

Phoenix Woman @ 126

What would you think would be bigger news — and hit the press quicker?

– A congressman (Bob Filner) lipping off to and pushing airport security personnel, OR:

– A male Senator (Larry Craig) caught trying to solicit sex from a male undercover cop in an airport bathroom known as a meeting-place for sex trysts?

The Filner (Democrat) altercation happened on August 19 and was national news within hours. The Craig (Republican) incident occurred June 11, and I and the rest of the world are only hearing about it now — even though stories about the gay-bashing conservative Republican Craig’s penchant for airport sex with men have been circulating online and elsewhere for a while.

Oh, and will the oh-so-aggressively-hetero pundits currently fangirling Mitt Romney (in a perfectly hetero manner, mind you) keep it up now that Mitt’s biggest ally (and — until recently — Senate liaison for Romney’s campaign, as this abruptly zapped YouTube video showed) has been caught trying to solicit illicit man-nookie? Fangirling is OK with them only so long as they don’t, you know, actually brush hands openly with gayness.

PW — Are you suggesting Mitt is gay?

OT

Bush Motorcade Crash Kills N.M. Officer

Updated 9:09 PM ET August 27, 2007

ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. (AP) – A police officer in President Bush’s motorcade crashed his motorcycle and died Monday, less than a year after a crash in Hawaii killed another motorcycle officer accompanying the president.

He must be going for a trifecta.

What’s the story with youtube? It can just be erased? That doesn’t feel very you, you know?

TexBetsy @ 119

CTuttle @ 109

At least it’s not at the DoD’s postage rate for $.29 washers… $6mil??? ;-)

No exaggerating. It was only a million and they bought and sent more than 1!

Whats a Mil., or more, between friends…??? ;-)

Jonathan @ 119

Get distracted.

About some worthless Republican senator seeking a blowj*b in the Minneapolis airport.

Sure. Get some Dem to replace him.

Meantime, he’s a distraction.

Iraq’s the place to focus.

Jonathan:

It wouldn’t be so interesting, but for this:

What would you think would be bigger news — and hit the press quicker?

– A congressman (Bob Filner) lipping off to and pushing airport security personnel, OR:

– A male Senator (Larry Craig) caught trying to solicit sex from a male undercover cop in an airport bathroom known as a meeting-place for sex trysts?

The Filner (Democrat) altercation happened on August 19 and was national news within hours. The Craig (Republican) incident occurred June 11, and I and the rest of the world are only hearing about it now — even though stories about the gay-bashing conservative Republican Craig’s penchant for airport sex with men have been circulating online and elsewhere for a while.

Oh, and Craig was — until very recently — a high muckety-muck in (the equally-anti-gay) Mitt Romney’s campaign.

Now see the importance?

LS @ 121

GSD @ 118

:>

Always funny and always true!

indeed!

Just in from Talking Points Memo, a PDF of the full Larry Craig arrest report…

Jonathan @ 130

Phoenix Woman @ 126

What would you think would be bigger news — and hit the press quicker?

– A congressman (Bob Filner) lipping off to and pushing airport security personnel, OR:

– A male Senator (Larry Craig) caught trying to solicit sex from a male undercover cop in an airport bathroom known as a meeting-place for sex trysts?

The Filner (Democrat) altercation happened on August 19 and was national news within hours. The Craig (Republican) incident occurred June 11, and I and the rest of the world are only hearing about it now — even though stories about the gay-bashing conservative Republican Craig’s penchant for airport sex with men have been circulating online and elsewhere for a while.

Oh, and will the oh-so-aggressively-hetero pundits currently fangirling Mitt Romney (in a perfectly hetero manner, mind you) keep it up now that Mitt’s biggest ally (and — until recently — Senate liaison for Romney’s campaign, as this abruptly zapped YouTube video showed) has been caught trying to solicit illicit man-nookie? Fangirling is OK with them only so long as they don’t, you know, actually brush hands openly with gayness.

PW — Are you suggesting Mitt is gay?

I’m talking about the bizarre mancrushing that’s been directed Romney’s way by so many pundits. John Edwards gets dinged for being rich and good-looking and having good grooming habits, whereas Romney is praised and drooled over for same.

Gunga Djinn @ 131

OT

Bush Motorcade Crash Kills N.M. Officer

Updated 9:09 PM ET August 27, 2007

ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. (AP) – A police officer in President Bush’s motorcade crashed his motorcycle and died Monday, less than a year after a crash in Hawaii killed another motorcycle officer accompanying the president.

He must be going for a trifecta.

The smell of death surrounds him.

I am sure Bush heard the news and then took a bite out of a baloney sandwich.

This man is our Caligula.

-GSD

ccmask @ 128

Has everyone preordered their Fair Game book by Valerie Wilson?

They released it? What, heavily redacted??? ;-)

Phoenix Woman @ 137

Jonathan @ 130

PW — Are you suggesting Mitt is gay?

I’m talking about the bizarre mancrushing that’s been directed Romney’s way by so many pundits. John Edwards gets dinged for being rich and good-looking and having good grooming habits, whereas Romney is praised and drooled over for same.

Bet he doesn’t smell as nice as Fred, though.

GSD-you are one of my very favorite commenters to read, and have been ever since you raised that question about the “portable hole” during a Republican debate, and I literally almost hurt myself laughing.
A way with words, indeed.

George Bush does not eat bologna. He’s a “cut above” that sort of pedestrian crap.

Peterr @ 113

PW,

The Q&A from the first link of your post is very depressing. “Naive” is the most charitable term that comes to mind, and let’s just leave the less charitable terms unspoken.

Q: But doesn’t the ISG bill take the pressure off Congress to change policy. I support the FCNL position that the U.S. should withdraw military troops from Iraq and participate in internationally led effort to rebuild the country. The ISG bill essentially gives members of Congress a way to say they are doing something, while doing very little or nothing.

A: It’s possible that some members might seek political cover behind the bill while doing nothing to implement its provisions. But anyone taking this tact is not likely to fool many people for very long. The ISG bill establishes a new level of Congressional oversight of Iraq policy by requiring quarterly reports from the administration. Any members who shy away from aggressively exercising this oversight will stand out in the public mind very soon.

It’s possible that members might use the bill for political cover? Possible? Really? Who could have anticipated . . .

*sigh*

Remember the post earlier on how we shouldn’t attribute to malice that which could be adequately explained by stupidity (or Beltway Goof Gas exuded by pundits whose salary-payers are all corporate goons who favor the GOP)?

This shows that the Democrats in DC aren’t the only ones falling prey to the Beltway Goof Gas.

Jonathan @ 119

Get distracted.

About some worthless Republican senator seeking a blowj*b in the Minneapolis airport.

Sure. Get some Dem to replace him.

Meantime, he’s a distraction.

Iraq’s the place to focus.

We are perfectly capable of focusing on more than one thing at a time.

persiflage @ 139

Phoenix Woman @ 137

I’m talking about the bizarre mancrushing that’s been directed Romney’s way by so many pundits. John Edwards gets dinged for being rich and good-looking and having good grooming habits, whereas Romney is praised and drooled over for same.

Bet he doesn’t smell as nice as Fred, though.

According to Tweety, at least, eh, Sheila??? ;-)

does anyone have that youtube saved?

would love to see it

PW at 133

We can rag about Repubs endlessley.

The American people are going to say, “Yeah. Waitress. Another Bud, please.”

The real question, in my opinion, is what ideas do Dems have to offer to the American people?

Loo Hoo. @ 110

demi @ 102

Terribly unfair. Well, they won’t get Our repeat business. Fer sure.

Exactly. Stupid business. They ripped me off for $40., but I will never again stay in a Hyatt. And I travel.

I left my phone charger in a hotel in Key West and they charged a flat $20.00 and I was pissed. Wow. I’m glad I stole a bunch of that lemon/lavendar soap from the Hyatt.

Loo Hoo. @ 141

George Bush does not eat bologna. He’s a “cut above” that sort of pedestrian crap.

He just talks it?

TexBetsy @ 149

Loo Hoo. @ 141

George Bush does not eat bologna. He’s a “cut above” that sort of pedestrian crap.

He just talks it?

nothin’ butt

CTuttle @ 139

ccmask @ 128

Has everyone preordered their Fair Game book by Valerie Wilson?

They released it? What, heavily redacted??? ;-)

I don’t know. I mentioned it this morning but things were going pretty fast & furious, if you know what I mean.

Phoenix Woman @ 137

I’m talking about the bizarre mancrushing that’s been directed Romney’s way by so many pundits. John Edwards gets dinged for being rich and good-looking and having good grooming habits, whereas Romney is praised and drooled over for same.

Yeah, $400 haircuts get much bigger press than $1,000 for cosmetics. I’m beginning to suspect the real number are $0 vs $2.50 (for peanut butter).

All politics is local, isn’t that what they say?:

http://www.pridedepot.com/modu…..ss/?p=1178

Loo Hoo. @ 142

George Bush does not eat bologna. He’s a “cut above” that sort of pedestrian crap.

Ah, but Loo Hoo, he would! He would serve it on fine china with all the best sides, and hate you forever if you didn’t pretend it was filet mignon.

CD @ 136

Just in from Talking Points Memo, a PDF of the full Larry Craig arrest report…

OMG! Can you imagine how his mind must have been twirling in that interrogation room?

Loo Hoo. @ 155

CD @ 136

Just in from Talking Points Memo, a PDF of the full Larry Craig arrest report…

OMG! Can you imagine how his mind must have been twirling in that interrogation room?

Or in the bathroom.

Attn. Persiflage: The ACLU would object, I’m sure.

TexBetsy @ 148

Loo Hoo. @ 141

George Bush does not eat bologna. He’s a “cut above” that sort of pedestrian crap.

He just talks it?

Ha! Good one, TB.

TexBetsy @ 148

Loo Hoo. @ 141

George Bush does not eat bologna. He’s a “cut above” that sort of pedestrian crap.

He just talks it?

Naw, that’s too mild, it’s Texas steer manure… Ya know, those six foot horn spans…!!! *g*

Jonathan @ 147

PW at 133

We can rag about Repubs endlessley.

The American people are going to say, “Yeah. Waitress. Another Bud, please.”

The real question, in my opinion, is what ideas do Dems have to offer to the American people?

they are banking on one this;

they are not republican

hoewever I agree, that is not nearly enough

we need a bunch of things

we need a candidate that reforms campaign financing, that rescinds personhood for corporations, the removes our armed forces from Iraq, that rebuilds our military, that reclaims our integrity, that renews our constitution

AND WE NEED A DEMOCRAT THAT PROMISES TO BRING THE CRIMINALS TO THE BAR OF JUSTICE

now, is that too much to ask?

Everythingseemssoneat @ 40

Look, I’m really angry about the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq but I’m not suspicious about 9/11.

Oh, but you should. You might want to read up on the demolition of WTC7.

Breaking News:

Larry Craig takes over as the new GOP chairman for The Oral Majority.

-GSD

LS @ 155

Loo Hoo. @ 155

OMG! Can you imagine how his mind must have been twirling in that interrogation room?

Or in the bathroom.

Pass the brain bleach, please.

Phoenix Woman @ 127

What would you think would be bigger news — and hit the press quicker?

– A congressman (Bob Filner) lipping off to and pushing airport security personnel, OR:

– A male Senator (Larry Craig) caught trying to solicit sex from a male undercover cop in an airport bathroom known as a meeting-place for sex trysts?

The Filner (Democrat) altercation happened on August 19 and was national news within hours. The Craig (Republican) incident occurred June 11, and I and the rest of the world are only hearing about it now — even though stories about the gay-bashing conservative Republican Craig’s penchant for airport sex with men have been circulating online and elsewhere for a while.

Oh, and will the oh-so-aggressively-hetero pundits currently fangirling Mitt Romney (in a perfectly hetero manner, mind you) keep it up now that Mitt’s biggest ally (and — until recently — Senate liaison for Romney’s campaign, as this abruptly zapped YouTube video showed) has been caught trying to solicit illicit man-nookie? Fangirling is OK with them only so long as they don’t, you know, actually brush hands openly with gayness.

The confusion arose because it was in an airport. All the previous Craig rumors were about Union Station, a train station. Easy to get thrown off the scent.

GSD @ 161

Breaking News:

Larry Craig takes over as the new GOP chairman for The Oral Majority.

-GSD

See? Proof!

TeddySanFran @ 162

Phoenix Woman @ 127

What would you think would be bigger news — and hit the press quicker?

– A congressman (Bob Filner) lipping off to and pushing airport security personnel, OR:

– A male Senator (Larry Craig) caught trying to solicit sex from a male undercover cop in an airport bathroom known as a meeting-place for sex trysts?

The Filner (Democrat) altercation happened on August 19 and was national news within hours. The Craig (Republican) incident occurred June 11, and I and the rest of the world are only hearing about it now — even though stories about the gay-bashing conservative Republican Craig’s penchant for airport sex with men have been circulating online and elsewhere for a while.

Oh, and will the oh-so-aggressively-hetero pundits currently fangirling Mitt Romney (in a perfectly hetero manner, mind you) keep it up now that Mitt’s biggest ally (and — until recently — Senate liaison for Romney’s campaign, as this abruptly zapped YouTube video showed) has been caught trying to solicit illicit man-nookie? Fangirling is OK with them only so long as they don’t, you know, actually brush hands openly with gayness.

The confusion arose because it was in an airport. All the previous Craig rumors were about Union Station, a train station. Easy to get thrown off the scent.

Hey, cut Craig some slack, at least he didn’t claim he was under duress by some Blacks in a Fla public park…!!!

New article in Harpers

Meet Giuliani’s Advisors: A*P*C’s Dream Team

The confusion arose because it was in an airport. All the previous Craig rumors were about Union Station, a train station. Easy to get thrown off the scent.

Whatcha got, Teddy?

Sid58 @ 157

Attn. Persiflage: The ACLU would object, I’m sure.

To truth? Does freedom of speech really mean the right to mislead the voters? Freedom to spin? Maybe, it was just a thought that I couldn’t immediately shoot down so I thought I throw it out here to get some thoughts.

I sure hope that romney craig youtube was saved by someone and it makes it’s way to the tubeules

I want to see it

From Alexandra Pelosi’s Travels with Tyrants, I mean Journeys with George:

GEORGE W. BUSH, PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I like a good baloney sandwich. (INAUDIBLE) every day, but I like just baloney.

White trash, blue-blood.

-GSD

OT, but it seems Warmonger Surge Author Frederick Kagan might never be knighted by the Queen:

Troops pay price for special relationship

Frederick Kagan, one of the architects of the surge strategy, warned that the British departure risked creating “bad feeling” among US troops, some of whom may face extended terms of duty as a result.

He spoke out after the deaths of three British soldiers in Afghanistan, killed by bombs dropped from a US aircraft, placed new strains on the alliance in the other main military theatre.

In an outspoken interview, Mr Kagan condemned British politicians for failing to understand how best to tackle Islamic extremists, and for refusing to increase the size of the Armed Forces so they could pull their full weight in Iraq.

~snip~

Without naming Mr Brown, he accused British political leaders of using Army overstretch as an excuse to withdraw from Iraq.

“Britain has a lot of problems, principally that their ground forces are too small and are now paying the price,” he said. “Strain on the military is a powerful enabler for anyone who wants to make the argument that we want to leave.”

CD @ 136

Just in from Talking Points Memo, a PDF of the full Larry Craig arrest report…

that’s hot

GSD @ 168

From Alexandra Pelosi’s Travels with Tyrants, I mean Journeys with George:

GEORGE W. BUSH, PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I like a good baloney sandwich. (INAUDIBLE) every day, but I like just baloney.

White trash, blue-blood.

-GSD

…trailer trash tastes, embodied within an Andover trained tyke…!!!

Abu.

Here today, gone tomorrow.

Don’t get distracted.

Iraq’s here today, and it’s going to be here tomorrow.

For Hillary. Or for whomever else you choose.

Senator Craig Should Resign
Posted by: Hugh Hewitt at 6:45 PM

ece30318-b490-486a-9747-97a4392cbe77
“>Hugh.

Via Think Progress.

OT

Tue. Aug. 28, 7:30 pm: John Edwards and Dennis Kucinich “will take part in discussions of key domestic issues before representatives of the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers (IAM)”

“The event will be streamed, live, from the http://www.GOIAM.org web site.
Streaming provided by ustream.tv.”

Sorry.

http://www.townhall.com/blog/g…..a4392cbe77

CTuttle @ 173

GSD @ 168

From Alexandra Pelosi’s Travels with Tyrants, I mean Journeys with George:

GEORGE W. BUSH, PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I like a good baloney sandwich. (INAUDIBLE) every day, but I like just baloney.

White trash, blue-blood.

-GSD

…trailer trash tastes, embodied within an Andover trained tyke…!!!

Now c’mon, a fried baloney sandwich with a big ol’ slice of raw oan-yoan on a toasted bun ain’t bad at all with a side of crispy fries and co’cola.

How, exactly, does liking a bologna sandwich translate into trailer-trash? One can be intelligent and educated and still enjoy the simpler things (and cheaper things) in life.

Not that I’m accusing Chimpy of being intelligent/educated, mind you….

Loo Hoo. @ 168

The confusion arose because it was in an airport. All the previous Craig rumors were about Union Station, a train station. Easy to get thrown off the scent.

Whatcha got, Teddy?

Mike Rogers, American Hero

“The Minnesota arrest is not a one-time occurrence,” Rogers added. “Last October, I reported on three other encounters that Senator Craig had with men – including one in a bathroom in Washington’s Union Station. What’s troubling about this is Larry Craig’s hypocrisy: he repeatedly votes against the gay community during his day job, while engaging in same-sex encounters as extra curricular activity. Now is a good time for Larry Craig to join millions of other Americans and be proud of who he is.

GSD @ 162

Breaking News:

Larry Craig takes over as the new GOP chairman for The Oral Majority.

-GSD

Gargle, swish, spit out, do not swallow, repeat

Elliott @ 175

OT

Tue. Aug. 28, 7:30 pm: John Edwards and Dennis Kucinich “will take part in discussions of key domestic issues before representatives of the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers (IAM)”

“The event will be streamed, live, from the http://www.GOIAM.org web site.
Streaming provided by ustream.tv.”

Woohoo! Thanks Elliott…!!! (h/t Tuttle)

dakine01 @ 176

CTuttle @ 173

…trailer trash tastes, embodied within an Andover trained tyke…!!!

Now c’mon, a fried baloney sandwich with a big ol’ slice of raw oan-yoan on a toasted bun ain’t bad at all with a side of crispy fries and co’cola.

Spam makes a mighty fine Musubi…!!! ;-)

I imagine that this kid might be scarred for life, in more ways than one. Ouch!

TeddySanFran @ 173

CD @ 136

Just in from Talking Points Memo, a PDF of the full Larry Craig arrest report…

that’s hot

I swear, I’d love to stack up any of our ‘preverts’ with any of their ‘preverts’. Go ahead – round up the Dems and see how they stack up.

Hypocrisy makes for strange bedfellows.

Shadowstalker @ 177

How, exactly, does liking a bologna sandwich translate into trailer-trash? One can be intelligent and educated and still enjoy the simpler things (and cheaper things) in life.

Not that I’m accusing Chimpy of being intelligent/educated, mind you….

True!

If you’d like to see the not-at-all unattractive airport policeman who busted Larry Craig, he appears at about 2:31 in the video news report here

persiflage @ 182

I imagine that this kid might be scarred for life, in more ways than one. Ouch!

Oof, not the family jewels…!!! ;-)

Gonzales: A Failed Affirmative Action Case
snip

Gonzales becomes an ironic example of the old conservative argument that affirmative action programs punish individuals targeted for their help by placing them in positions they’re not prepared for. He might have been a capable (if highly controversial) White House Counsel, but as Scott Horton pointed out repeatedly for months on end, Gonzales was an utter disaster as Attorney General, demoralizing an entire institution with his painfully incoherent, meandering explanations on why seemingly capable U.S. Attorneys were thrown aside for political reasons in the middle of Bush’s years in office. Nothing qualified him for the position beyond his friendship with Bush and his status as a bullet point on Why The Republican Party Is Inclusive.

Wee doggies..egads…ooo weee…ok:

http://www.crooksandliars.com/…..nial-1982/

Elliott @ 177

OT

Tue. Aug. 28, 7:30 pm: John Edwards and Dennis Kucinich “will take part in discussions of key domestic issues before representatives of the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers (IAM)”

“The event will be streamed, live, from the http://www.GOIAM.org web site.
Streaming provided by ustream.tv.”

My dream ticket. Edwards/Kucinich

TeddySanFran @ 186

If you’d like to see the not-at-all unattractive airport policeman who busted Larry Craig, he appears at about 2:31 in the video news report here

You wouldn’t be outting an undercover officer, would you, Teddy? That kind of thing doesn’t go over too well here.

*g*

Steven Valentine

TeddySanFran @ 179

Loo Hoo. @ 168

The confusion arose because it was in an airport. All the previous Craig rumors were about Union Station, a train station. Easy to get thrown off the scent.

Whatcha got, Teddy?

Mike Rogers, American Hero

“The Minnesota arrest is not a one-time occurrence,” Rogers added. “Last October, I reported on three other encounters that Senator Craig had with men – including one in a bathroom in Washington’s Union Station. What’s troubling about this is Larry Craig’s hypocrisy: he repeatedly votes against the gay community during his day job, while engaging in same-sex encounters as extra curricular activity. Now is a good time for Larry Craig to join millions of other Americans and be proud of who he is.

I agree with this comment:

I am gay, and I say………BRAVO to the cop……….we do not need this guys…..go to a gay bar, meet online…..but not in public bathrooms….

ccmask @ 190

Gonzales: A Failed Affirmative Action Case
snip

I still think this has nothing to do with ethnicity. Shrub needed yet another yes-man.. he found one with a Harvard law degree and Texan sensibilities. The yes-man said yes-yes-yes right up to the moment he was forced off the proverbial plank.

As far as I’m concerned, his name might as well have been “Mike Brown”

It gets worse..they f’ing never learn..now they are begging:

http://www.slate.com/id/2172861/entry/0/

Blub @ 196

ccmask @ 190

Gonzales: A Failed Affirmative Action Case
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I still think this has nothing to do with ethnicity. Shrub needed yet another yes-man.. he found one with a Harvard law degree and Texan sensibilities. The yes-man said yes-yes-yes right up to the moment he was forced off the proverbial plank.

As far as I’m concerned, his name might as well have been “Mike Brown”

I agree

TeddySanFran @ 186

If you’d like to see the not-at-all unattractive airport policeman who busted Larry Craig, he appears at about 2:31 in the video news report here

***
TSF, could you double-check that link please? It brings up a story about airport cart safety, for me…

LS @ 196

It gets worse..they f’ing never learn..now they are begging:

http://www.slate.com/id/2172861/entry/0/

If they’d read their history, they’d know that selling dispensations was the downfall of the Roman Catholic Church (as a political and economic empire).

But I guess they prefer oral history…

Republicans can never blame anything on the person who did wrong. They always use excuses and I reckon blaming it on Affirmative Action will become a talking point for some in the right blogosphere.

CD @ 199

TeddySanFran @ 186

If you’d like to see the not-at-all unattractive airport policeman who busted Larry Craig, he appears at about 2:31 in the video news report here

***
TSF, could you double-check that link please? It brings up a story about airport cart safety, for me…

If you watch the video at the link, the airport policeman shows up at 2:31. Yes, he’s talking about airport cart safety at Minneapolis/StPaul airport. Shockingly, people are hit by these carts alla time, including former Senator George McGovern!

His name is the same as the policeman on the arrest report.

ccmask @ 201

I reckon blaming it on Affirmative Action will become a talking point for some in the right blogosphere.

Now, that’s making putrid lemonade out of rancid lemons.

RonD @ 201

ccmask @ 201

I reckon blaming it on Affirmative Action will become a talking point for some in the right blogosphere.

Now, that’s making putrid lemonade out of rancid lemons.

piss and vinegar

Did Sgt. Dave Karsnia piss someone off?

His duties include golf cart enforcement at the airport and trolling for lewd sex acts in the bathrooms.

I hope he gets a promotion soon.

-GSD

howdy y’all!

boing reverse one and a half somersaults with two and a half twists, in the free position, no splash

g’evening everyone

nice work figuring that out teddy – how on earth did you find the airport cart safety film and put 2 and 2 together?

no splash? again? cool diving!

Suzanne @ 206

boing reverse one and a half somersaults with two and a half twists, in the free position, no splash

g’evening everyone

nice work figuring that out teddy – how on earth did you find the airport cart safety film and put 2 and 2 together?

Nice dive, considering you never even took off your detective’s cap.

zennurse @ 89

I wish you all a good night, please don’t think I mean what my dream implies. I needed to share it and know this is a safe place.

Re: the future of FDL, I arrived here from a link at C&L about 2 years ago searching for a Libby story. It was a lot smaller then and only Jane and ReddHedd (Christy, incognito) were posting. It has grown in size and scope, but has remained true to its roots. Jane and Christy have created a community which supports its members and moves the important issues forward. They have also been incredibly responsive to a very vocal readership’s input and suggestions. I don’t see that changing and I believe there is huge potential as we move into the elections.

JMO

zennurse,

I haven’t “seen” you in quite a while. Hope all is well. Come back soon. Don’t worry about the dream – what’s sad is that such a thing could actually seem like the better alternative.

well, since trex is typing away backstage i figured i would dive in on time since he is late.

Hello SK and Suz!

Are we all zed-hunting?

LS @ 189

Wee doggies..egads…ooo weee…ok:

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/0
8/27/1982-larry-craig-denial-1982/

Ha ha ha ha ha…

Hey, Suzanne!

off topic:
Why (oh, why!!) is TDS a re-run??

Wanna hear about 10th grade? This is what I put on my facebook note:

The world’s STUPIDEST schedule.

8:53pm Today

OK. So here’s my schedule for this semester. I have never seen anything so stupid in my ENTIRE LIFE!

A Days (Mostly Mondays and Wednesdays unless Monday or Wednesday is a holiday:) 4 classes, with lunch at 11 AM

B Days (Mostly Tuesdays and Thursdays, except when there’s a Monday holiday:) a different 4 classes with lunch at 12:40 PM

C Days: Fridays, but only if there’s all 5 days in a week. All 8 classes and I have no FFFFing idea what time I eat.

BUT …. I have English on A & B days and twice on C days. ARGH!!!

My brain is confused about which homework is for when and my stomach will be confused every day.

HELP!!!! I am confused! I need many snacks during the day!

Suzanne @ 211

well, since trex is typing away backstage i figured i would dive in on time since he is late.

Fashionably late, no doubt.

Either that, or he’s being a terrible tease.

Cassie, Suzanne.

Ciao.

-GSD

ccmask @ 201

Republicans can never blame anything on the person who did wrong. They always use excuses and I reckon blaming it on Affirmative Action will become a talking point for some in the right blogosphere.

Is there an affirmative action program for soulless bastards? Seems like they’re finding employment everywhere right now.

This statement made my day… “Team Bush must thread the needle between protecting itself with a loyal insider and mollifying Democrats in Congress who want to know where the bodies at the Department of Justice are buried.”
Happy birthday, to me…!!! ;-)

TPM has craig romney utube up

ccmask @ 201

Republicans can never blame anything on the person who did wrong. They always use excuses and I reckon blaming it on Affirmative Action will become a talking point for some in the right blogosphere.

I think that’s right, which is yet one more reason why I’m leary about this ethnicity angle here. That’s going to be the drawroom talking point for rethugs.. The total failure that was AGAG will provide them with yet more reason to be smug about their own racism… and they’ll be quick to blame his failures on affirmative action or whatever. We shouldn’t. We should put the blame where it belongs — on shrub’s love of absolutist tendancies and his desire to surround himself with a cult of mindless, ethically-impaired yes-men.

Cass – baby girl survived a schedule like that her senior year – her tummy adjusted in a few days and she was good for the rest of the semester – second semester had very different class choices :)

Happy birthday CTuttle! Did you already get cake and stuff?

Making a pro-active denial when your name hasn’t come up yet in a scandal just because you’re single and people allude to that in a prurient way is just sad.

I would feel sorry for this guy — I know men who live his life. But they haven’t had the opportunity for his virulent gay-bashing on a public stage, and haven’t his horrid voting record on equal rights for people just like himself.

There. All my potential sorry-for-him is gone.

yellowdog jim @ 215

off topic:
Why (oh, why!!) is TDS a re-run??

two week break, Colbert as well.

By the way. Has anyone noticed what is going on in the Bush World of diplomacy?

The Bush Bots(Keane/Biddle) have begun to badmouth the UK because they are pulling their troops out of Iraq and France’s Sarkozy is stepping in to the role of BFF for Chimpy.

Apparently Bush has a new French Poodle.

-GSD

TeddySanFran @ 226

yellowdog jim @ 215

off topic:
Why (oh, why!!) is TDS a re-run??

two week break, Colbert as well.

Froomkin’s taking a week off . . . and even emptywheel unplugged from the toobz for a long weekend.

Teddy, I feel bad for Mrs. Senator Bathroom.

TeddySanFran @ 226

yellowdog jim @ 215

off topic:
Why (oh, why!!) is TDS a re-run??

two week break, Colbert as well.

thx, tsf.
is there a room we go to jones?

Suzanne @ 229

Teddy, I feel bad for Mrs. Senator Bathroom.

LO-fucking-L

GSD @ 227

Apparently Bush has a new French Poodle.

Well, let’s see what happens when Bush asks him to send troops.

Mrs. Stall #4

SnarKassandra @ 224

Happy birthday CTuttle! Did you already get cake and stuff?

Online, Yes!!! However, I asked for none, and they complied!!! That is a gift unto itself…!!! *g*

RonD @ 232

GSD @ 227

Apparently Bush has a new French Poodle.

Well, let’s see what happens when Bush asks him to send troops.

Hopefully he’ll say “merde, non!”

TeddySanFran @ 231

LO-fucking-L

Down the drain with the Toilet Party…

sorry, couldn’t resist

Via TPM:

http://www.boston.com/news/nat…..Boston.com / News / Nation

TeddySanFran @ 231

Suzanne @ 229

Teddy, I feel bad for Mrs. Senator Bathroom.

LO-fucking-L

Don’t you wonder why she didn’t notice something a little, um, off? She didn’t hear about the train station meet-ups?

RonD @ 230

GSD @ 227

Apparently Bush has a new French Poodle.

Well, let’s see what happens when Bush asks him to send troops.

A couple of French corporations will be awarded no bid contracts worth about 6 times the cost of the French militarys limited support.

If memory serves, Mrs Senator Bathroom was a Larry Craig staffer who brought two children into the marriage. The possibility that this has been an elaborate from-the-start sham in which she participated — and from which she benefitted — is more likely than the situation sweet Lorena-tendent Wendy Vitter found herself in.

Wee = wee.

Suzanne @ 229

Teddy, I feel bad for Mrs. Senator Bathroom.

Heh, Kiss, eh, Ma Cheri??? 8-)

Old Quaker:

“I will not cheat Thee, but may outwit Thee.”

yellowdog jim @ 230

TeddySanFran @ 226

two week break, Colbert as well.

thx, tsf.
is there a room we go to jones?

Closest thing I’ve found is Bill Maher, and that’s on HBO. But, Tim Robbins is on the panel and he’s pretty cool.

i hope TRex is okay.
he’s working up a sweat for us and doing his athens radio show too.

pobrecito.

Wow…..

US Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, embroiled in a row over the sacking of eight US attorneys, has formally announced his resignation.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wor…..965602.stm

TeddySanFran @ 240

If memory serves, Mrs Senator Bathroom was a Larry Craig staffer who brought two children into the marriage. The possibility that this has been an elaborate from-the-start sham in which she participated — and from which she benefitted — is more likely than the situation sweet Lorena-tendent Wendy Vitter found herself in.

Mere stage props…??? ;-)

Eureka Springs @ 239

A couple of French corporations will be awarded no bid contracts worth about 6 times the cost of the French militarys limited support.

…as subcontractors to Halliburton

Eureka Springs @ 239

A couple of French corporations will be awarded no bid contracts worth about 6 times the cost of the French militarys limited support.

Jeebus, you’re probably right. The French contingent wouldn’t even have to be large. The PR value of having any in Iraq would be the payoff.

i saw a TRex post upstairs.

New Thread courtesy of your always modest zedster.

Despite Frances reluctance to engage in Iraq, they have a pretty shabby colonial record.

Read about the Rwanda genocide. France was pretty despicable during that atrocity.

Now they have a wanna-be player on their hands. I can’t wait for a baguette chomping Bush to yell out “Yo, Sarkozy”.

-GSD

LS @ 197

It gets worse..they f’ing never learn..now they are begging:

http://www.slate.com/id/2172861/entry/0/

What the hapless Haggard is begging for is a major fraud indictment by the IRS. Nonprofit organizations, be they animal shelters, church resale shops or art museums require a detailed applicationprocess. This takes months and as much as a year to complete the process to receive IRS nonprofit 501 designation approval.

Given his background in church ministries there can be no excuse for Haggard not knowing these facts.

I was extremely disappointed when the American Friends Service Committee, ecumenical though they were, bought into the bogus “war on terror” marketing campaign launched by the Washington Warmongers™ before the smoke had cleared at ground zero of the WTC towers attack. I chastised them for this gross impropriety, straightaway. These are moments when the Quakers’ beliefs are really tested and I must say they failed miserably. To this latest let-down, I merely say, pish and posh!

GSD @ 106

The two most disturbing aspects of the Larry Craig story are:

1) Leaving the stall without flushing.

2) Leaving the restroom without washing his hands.

Larry Craig is a very dirty, dirty boy.

-GSD

And there is no evidence he “wiped”. But maybe he doesn’t need to with his “wide stance”.

Jonathan @ 52

FDL is a good place to hang out.

And to get some good ideas…lots of good ideas.

And from which to contribute to ActBlue candidates.

I wonder, though, what is its future?

The Internet is a fabulous tool for communication and blogs are the core of mass discussions. Used in the political world we’re able to increase the power of the public and that shifts the balance away from the few and towards the many. This will increase the cost to the Rich to maintain their current advantages or it might force them to listen a little to other views of how the world might be shaped to work better for everybody.

I don’t necessarily believe that public financing of elections is the answer. I don’t feel so certain the Rich won’t simply find some way to interfere to their own benefit. Besides, it would tax some people who aren’t all that interested or can’t afford to participate in politics.

What kind of arguments really get to the Rich? I’d suggest you approach them conceptually the same as anyone else: you find what they’re interested in and discuss with them ways to do it better, for them and everyone. Sometimes they aren’t disagreeable so much as simply uninformed or uninvolved.

TRex has got your Late, Late upstairs.

Phoenix Woman @ 137

…
John Edwards gets dinged for being rich and good-looking and having good grooming habits, whereas Romney is praised and drooled over for same.

I confronted a Repub friend about that. He’d been saying what a hypocrite Edwards was for having a big house, being rich, paying a lot for the haircut and then saying he was all for the poor.

I think it’s just a rationalization for the fact they don’t have anything else to dislike except that he’s a Dem.

When I confronted my friend he was just kind of blank. He didn’t really have a thought on the matter. Heck, maybe he was just repeating talking points. You know how these guys are: the borg tells them what to do and say.

I don’t think it ever occurred to him that Edwards actually did feel that the disparity in wealth was immoral or an economic problem.

Jonathan @ 147

PW at 133

We can rag about Repubs endlessley.

The American people are going to say, “Yeah. Waitress. Another Bud, please.”

The real question, in my opinion, is what ideas do Dems have to offer to the American people?

It’s the ‘vision thing’. It’s Leadership.

Just keep your ears open and listen to the speeches and debates to hear what the Dem presidential candidates say. It’s all there and commentary is on the blogs.

Loo Hoo. @ 168

The confusion arose because it was in an airport. All the previous Craig rumors were about Union Station, a train station. Easy to get thrown off the scent.

Whatcha got, Teddy?

Here’s some stuff a ways back about Larry Craigs Union Station dalliances.

http://patriotboy.blogspot.com…..idaho.html

And just for fun…Larry discusses the recipe for “stuffed piquito” while dressed in Beret and sash.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqEcYv2qvOI