Some classic Liza Minnelli and Joel Grey from Cabaret — Money…
Politics is the art of making the impossible possible, of bringing to life theories and finding a pragmatic way to implement them to sustain a particular view of the world. In short, it is about priorities. What are the priorities of the Bush Administration?
– From AP (via Star-Telegram — with a H/T to wesgpc):
“This year’s U.S. troop buildup has succeeded in bringing violence in Baghdad down from peak levels, but the death toll from sectarian attacks around the country is running nearly double the pace from a year ago.
Some of the recent bloodshed appears the result of militant fighters drifting into parts of northern Iraq, where they have fled after U.S.-led offensives. Baghdad, however, still accounts for slightly more than half of all war-related killings – the same percentage as a year ago, according to figures compiled by The Associated Press…. (emphasis mine)
Whack. A. Mole. Digby has much more about the “great game” being played out to keep the status quo keeping on.
– There is a fantastic article laying out a number of the current military/command dilemmas within the officer corps from Fred Kaplan (who usually writes for Slate, but is writing here in the NYTimes Magazine.) To wit:
The gap is widening further, Snider told me, because of this war’s operating tempo, the “unrelenting pace” at which soldiers are rotated into Iraq for longer tours — and a greater number of tours — than they signed up for. Many soldiers, even those who support the war, are wearying of the endless cycle. The cycle is a result of two decisions. The first occurred at the start of the war, when the senior officers assented to the decision by Donald Rumsfeld, then the secretary of defense, to send in far fewer troops than they had recommended. The second took place two years later, well into the insurgency phase of the war, when top officers declared they didn’t need more troops, though most of them knew that in fact they did. “Many junior officers,” Snider said, “see this op tempo as stemming from the failure of senior officers to speak out.”
The article is about the internal dynamics of military leadership and the concurrent responsibilities of following civilian command and a responsibility to those who are being commanded to speak the truth from the ground. But it raises a lot more questions than it answers, the biggest one of which is this: what does a military commander do when the civilian command is not only incompetent but also wholly unwilling to listen to criticism and hard truths?
– Digby pieces together some substantial Bush Administration kabuki, and asks how Phil Zelikow can be a paid Bush Administration consultant at the same time as he is leading a charge to topple the Maliki government in Iraq — and claim that the Bushies have “clean hands.” Seems a bit filthy, if you ask me…
– Why aren’t more people stepping up to report Bush Administration and war profiteering contractor wrongdoing? Maybe this has something to do with it:
“Reconstruction is so rife with corruption. Sometimes people ask me, ‘Should I do this?’ And my answer is no. If they’re married, they’ll lose their family. They will lose their jobs. They will lose everything,” Weaver said.
They have been fired or demoted, shunned by colleagues, and denied government support in whistleblower lawsuits filed against contracting firms.
“The only way we can find out what is going on is for someone to come forward and let us know,” said Beth Daley of the Project on Government Oversight, an independent, nonprofit group that investigates corruption. “But when they do, the weight of the government comes down on them. The message is, ‘Don’t blow the whistle or we’ll make your life hell.’”
And in case you are asking yourself, “why aren’t these war profiteers being prosecuted?”, read this from LHP…and contemplate how misplaced priorities at the Gonzales-led DOJ trickle down on all of us.
– Anonymous Liberal posting at Crooks and Liars walks through the filing in the habeas case that I mentioned on Friday. From AL:
So if we assume that the Suspension Clause does apply to detainees at Guantanamo, the question then becomes: has Congress either validly suspended habeas or provided an “adequate and effective” substitute for it? Under the terms of the Suspension Clause, Congress is only allowed to suspend habeas corpus in cases of “rebellion and invasion” – which is pretty clearly not the case here. So the ultimate issue is whether the Combatant Status Review Tribunals established by the President and ratified by Congress are an adequate and effective substitute for habeas under the holding of Swain v. Pressley, 430 U.S. 372, 382 (1977) (”[T]he substitution of a collateral remedy which is neither inadequate nor ineffective to test the legality of a person’s detention does not constitute a suspension of the writ of habeas corpus.”).
I would argue that, no, it has not been constitutionally suspended. And I do wonder if that isn’t the very reason that the Court reversed itself and decided to hear the case after the hasty MCA revisions tried to cut them out of the Constitutional oversight loop. (Wonder how Huckleberry Graham’s August break is going? Ahem…)
And it goes on and on. Sorry to be so cynical on a Sunday, gang, but it is one of those days where the “elite opinionators” are on my last nerve because they are talking past the things that matter. The priority of the Bush Administration is to keep propping up the Bush Administration, and damn the consequences to the rest us. The fact that this isn’t topic A on every damn show is annoying. The fact that the Bushies continue to get away with this makes it all the worse.
(For a little levity, in a sharply cynical way, here is an excellent Monty Python sketch [YouTube] from yesteryear. Still applicable in the cold light of current circumstances, yes?)
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drats
“Sorry to be so cynical on a Sunday, gang”
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I am suffering from corruption fatigue.
EPU’d from below:sangemon @ 158
Now up to read…
I have seen Bob Kerry on the street in Shelter Island and thought about chatting him up? I decided not to bother the man although he seems to have some blood on his hands re the 9.11 commission. Sad what happens to people in power… they go crazy after they get rich or is it the other way round?
Both political parties spend most of their time, money and energy on maintaining the status quo. We are sick to death of it.
British move out of Basra police center, Shiite militia moves it
BASRA, Iraq: Shiite militiamen from the Mahdi Army took over the police joint command center in Basra on Sunday after British soldiers withdrew from the facility and handed control to the Iraqi police, witnesses said.
(snip)
But the witnesses said the Mahdi Army emptied the building — taking generators, computers, furniture and even cars, saying it was war booty — and remained there in the early evening.
(snip)
Last Wednesday, former U.S. Army Gen. Jack Keane, who was vice chief of staff at the time the Iraq war was launched in 2003, said Britain has allowed deteriorating security in southern Iraq to get worse.
He warned that American troops may need to plug the gaps if Prime Minister Gordon Brown withdraws significant numbers of British soldiers.
link
I say we should take to very specific streets — those in front of Republican Representatives and Senators. We have allowed them to insulate themselves against the truth.
I thought the Python sketch was going to be this;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y05EmK66Gsk
But “The Money Programme” is probably a better choice.
Pentimenti at 8 — That is exactly why we’ve been pushing the “You Work For Us Summer Tour” — and I have heard from a number of folks on the Hill that everyone has been getting an earful of disgust in their districts. Everyone.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 10
Excellent!
Somehow the crimes listed under RICO seem to fit…
BTW one of my Crete pictures is over at TaylorMarsh’s, a peacock that was having fun jumping from wall to wall at the 4500 yr old Minoan Palace of Knossos.
Steve-AR @ 7
Looting in Iraq? Inconceivable
Hugh at 13 — That Wallace Shawn tone that I just read your comment in made me spew my coffee… *g*
Christy Hardin Smith @ 10
I’m going to see my congressman this week as a matter of fact. He is a progressive and has voted the right way, so I want him to know that he has my support. I want to tell him so directly and explain to him why it is so important to me. I think that the more we can either support or confront our representatives face to face, the more effective we will be in getting our message across to them.
Was all busy writng a very long diatribe below and by the time I posted it was deep deep in EPU land.
OT I haven’t seen EPU around the Lake lately, if anybody does, say “hi” for me, I miss him.
Back to my point:
Christy asked me to weigh in on the will the IRS put you in jail if you don’t pay your taxes:
Asnwer:
YOU BETCHA!
wrt the book Baghdad Bonanza ( by Pratap Chatterjee) here is a link to an essay from the book.
A sample:
Iraqi companies should do the work. When companies like Contrack pulled out of fixing the Baghdad Central Railway Station, Iraqi companies finished the job, cheaply and well. Every Western contractor used Iraqi labor. Pay the workers in the country directly, not the CEOs abroad.
SanerO are you on Shelter I year round? or a summer person?
The private house party with my Congresscritter has been canceled and no new date has been rescheduled… I heard maybe in a few weeks.
The last event, with my district, surprise Nancy Pelosi showed up at Democratic district event in AZ and no hard questions were asked and it was exclusive admittance, you had to have received the invite email and RSVP’ed. It was announced on the local radio and lots of PO’ed people showed up and were denied access.
katymine @ 19
That inspires confidence. NOT
It’s a lot of depressing links for a Sunday morning, isn’t it? SIGH I’m trying to find something a little lighter for the next rock…truly, I am.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 14
Funny how a single word can become so connected to a movie.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 21
Sorry for emailing you that awful link tied to your story about Profiteering in Iraq x_x
sighhhh – its just overwhelming – iraq rages on – corruption goes on – those who try to make a difference pay a terrible price – why hasnt congress at least intervened? bushco goes on without regard to public outcry – and impeachment is STILL off the table ….oh well the hell with american opinions they do just as they please….its heart-breaking
juslin @ 24
Well, it is so hard to get a veto proof majority . . .
Everytime I try to imagine Congress allowing all of this to continue because Bush has wiretapped “goods” on them is just freakin’ outrageous. Imagine, if a congress critter allowed all of this to continue because they once had an affair and didn’t want their wife/husband to know? Egads.
Hugh @ 25
I want to LOL but I’m not sure if you are kidding.
ccmask @ 27
My sense of humor must be getting too dry. We live in an age where reality outstrips irony.
and more and more the dem frontrunners are sounding like repugs – this doesnt bode well for the country….
juslin @ 24
But, wait!! There’s MORE!!!!
Relatively unnoticed in all the corrupt privatization news is the outsourcing of spying. The overwhelming weight of case law is that the 4th Amendment does not apply to invasions of privacy by “non-governmental” entities. So, if a ChoicePoint or AT&T, et al surveills you and aggregates personal information about you on behalf of the Bu’ush administration, too fucking bad. Your sole, problematic remedy is a tort claim — problematic in that the information is classified.
All nicely wrapped up with a bow on top.
I’m gonna go hydroslide for a little while. See you nice people later.
ahhhhhhhhh what a fucking country!
i’m officially depressed and i know this wont help but i need a long tall adult beverage!! back in a few – carry on people ;o}
Great piece CHS, thanks for the important links.
The Bush administration’s priorities are dismal indeed, criminal is more like it. Invading a country under false pretenses, creating a tragedy beyond belief in Iraq (many believe this is what the “cakewalk” crazies wanted), hundreds of thousands dead, tens of thousands injured, millions displaced as a result. The Bush administrations priorties include, record breaking oil profits, defense sales (Israel, Saudi Arabia), contractors making billions off of a disaster that they supported, U.S. infrastructure failing, (briges, the Gulf Coast, New Orleans), and Americans psyches suffering, not to mention the people in Iraq and the rest of the middle east.
Bush is a seriously dysfunctional human being but this time the harm that his personal and family dysfunction has gone far beyond his immediate family or a company that he was involved with, he and his fellow sickos (Cheney, Perle, Bolton, Ledeen, Feith, Addington, Woolsey etc.) have caused more death and destruction than seems measurable. (especially since we do not count Iraqi lives as real lives)
There’s no reason to think that congress will vote to withdraw troops- and if they did- it would be a certain veto…
Bush will keep troops in Iraq until his final day of office- then it will take a good two years to really get out supposing that we elect a prez who wants to get us out…
We’ve got a long row to hoe here.
I think we know where Karl Rove has been outsourced to.
“There are American officials who consider Iraq as if it were one of their villages, for example Hillary Clinton and Carl Levin. They should come to their senses,” al-Maliki said at a news conference.
Which does not mean that I agree with what I think are arrogant, out of touch comments about Iraq by both Clinton and Levin.
Between Sen. Clinton saying this and here misguided belief that a terrorist attack on US benefits Bush and Republicans, I’d say she’s having a bad week.
-GSD
I’m gonna guess three years at the earliest before we’re out of the mesopotamian swamp.
People want happy news… uh…. happy anniversary?
From TPM:
Five years ago today
Today is the fifth anniversary of Dick Cheney’s 2002 speech to the Veterans of Foreign Wars’ national convention, which was the first instance of the White House making its case for a war with Iraq. Looking back, it’s quite an oration.
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“The case of Saddam Hussein, a sworn enemy of our country, requires a candid appraisal of the facts…. [W]e now know that Saddam has resumed his efforts to acquire nuclear weapons…. Many of us are convinced that Saddam will acquire nuclear weapons fairly soon….
“Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction. There is no doubt he is amassing them to use against our friends, against our allies, and against us….
“In the face of such a threat, we must proceed with care, deliberation, and consultation with our allies.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/051588.php
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Regarding the contractor mess, if you were watching Prime Minister’s questions, the potential for crookedness, inefficiency and and ineffectivness of the Cheney Bush way of doing things was a big topic for complaints and charges of potential for vile doings by both sides of Parliamnet when the war started. And that was our big ally. Whenever I see some pooh-bah snorts that it is silly to even try to go multilateral regarding anything on Iraq, I remember those questions. Even our big ally felt very suspicious.
Of course, some of that was resentment about being cut out of the goodies themselves, I suppose. But everything reeked about the venture right from the start.
Important to get all the questions answered. Otherwise they will come back to haunt us (see Bush’s tendentious Vietnam analogy speech). It is not just scoring political points and mean lefty bloggers wanting to settle scores. It is a matter of national honor, human and political morality, and necessary for a functioning morality. I hope one day to see something like that flun in the face of all these bogus cynical and complacent experts and pundits.
rwcole @ 35
Congress should hold hearings, with serious people asking questions of other serious people who are under oath. That’ll fix it.
Anyone know if (or if so why) the Dems are going to support the Bush agenda by allowing Petreus to speak on 9/11.
Here’s an interesting article on the fron page of the NYT confirming the dog and pony show treatment congresspeople get when they go to Iraq. Congresswoman Jan Schakowsky sees through it, while Baird doesn’t. And here is a lovely excerpt:
Why exactly is it that the military needs to be attentive to the audience in Washington? Mr. Morrell doesn’t say, but judging by his name, I suspect it has something to do with living in a basement and having manure dumped on him to encourage his fungoid nature.
I think that the Bush report is due on 9/15- not 9/11`.
Richmond says August 26th, 2007 at 9:55 am:
Anyone know if (or if so why) the Dems are going to support the Bush agenda by allowing Petreus to speak on 9/11.
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I don’t think that kind of stage management would mean much at all if the Democrats would proceed with the self-confidence, honesty, and relentless purpose needed to get to the truth and ensure the publid was aware of it. If they did, that kind of cheap symbolism would backfire -it has before (eg, ‘bring it on!’ codpiece parade on aircraft carrier)
Need to worry less about that kind of thing and more on encouraging (or demanding, depending on how goog your rep has been), the good side to do their jobs thoroughly and fearlessly.
I may be just dumb ol’ hick, but it looks to me like the Republicans are not the only ones who want to run out the clock.
Come on Mr. Gore.
Look, what we witnessed Glenn Greenwald do today on CSPAN was state the depressing truth. We’ve waited a long time for someone to elegantly put forth the dire straits in which our country finds itself. He was direct with the evidence and strong.
The truth is, there is more to put out there. If it is not brought to light and understood, it will not be fixed.
It is important to understand the buying of Bush’s Base.
It is important for those people who have sold themselves to this administration to understand that the American Public is on to them.
These people are the opposite of patriots. They may have unwittingly sold themselves at our country’s expense but sold themselves is the kindest way I can put it.
Bush’s Base is made up of corporations, congregations and contractors who are taking our money against our will. It begins by calling out the Base itself.
Approximately one thousand contractors have been killed and nobody talks about it because contractors are a Big Secret. They keep that secret because those that are alive are stealing from us.
Children have been mistreated by Church sponsored Boot Camps supported by tax dollars. The Big Secret is that our tax dollars paid for the abuse. Read about the girl dragged behind a van. Our tax dollars paid for that.
This has become bigger than Congress because Congress played a part in creating it.
It’s bigger than the DOJ and the DOJ has nearly killed itself; the ICU story is a propos.
Glenn showed himself as a person who has come to grips with the situation, even if he doesn’t have all of the answers. We have to do the same.
It doesn’t pay to try skimming through FDL. (But I keep on trying.) There are way too many things to learn.
This may be OT, and it may have come up here in the past week, but it’s the first I’ve seen and I know somebody here will have more info or can clear this up.
I’ve just read: “Members of the 1st Battalion 265 Air Defense Artillery have mobilized and are on a plane headed first to Ft. Bliss, then for federal active duty in the capital region.”
Local Troops Deploy To Nation’s Capital
Is there need for concern? or is this a ploy to cultivate the “terrorists are coming”?
If this has been discussed earlier at the Lake, could you please direct me to it?
thanks.
Time for someone to do a movie version of Irwin Shaw’s “Bury the Dead”–great anti war play!
http://books.google.com/books?…..mp;dq=bury the dead&printsec=frontcover&source=web&ots=te7jEu8i-8&sig=cf-KiNV9olnFWJMeFYEOJlOIGpM#PPP1,M1
Digby sums up the September report:
Surging
by digby
I just saw Sam Brownback say it straight out: the military surge is going so well that now we need to give the “political surge” a chance to work.
Cokie says everyone is getting more realistic.
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com…..w-sam.html
Senator Warner was all about business this morning on MTP. It seems the wind is really shifting, he is basically saying what Murtha said over a year ago. Warner “Mr. President I respectfully ask you to put some teeth behind your words, back up that we’re not going to be there forever”
Russert did let Warner get away with saying that “Iran is trying to develop Nuclear weapons”. This is not new the MSM have been allowing the “cakewalk” crazies get away with this over and over again for the last four years. (with the exception of Diane Rehm, Chris Matthews, and Alex Chadwick who have all challenged these unsubtantiated claims).The crazies have been busy setting the stage for more aggressive actions in Iran and if you have been listening and watching closely you know that they have gone mostly unchallenged. Deja Vu
Warner did refer to the I/P conflict and even called Palestine “Palestine” something the right wing z*on*st zealots just hate.
At the end of Russerts interview with Senator Warner, Warner politely said that after Bush’s mid Sept response about the situation in Iraq that Senators would have to “make our own assessments” because they are “almost” a co-equal branch of governement. What do you think he meant by “almost”?
Really something when Bill Kristol comes back from visiting Iraq and Senator Warner returns from Iraq how their views are completely opposite from one another.
Anyone hear much about Ahmed Chalabi anymore?
~~~ModNote: Edited for content to clear filters.~~~
First produced on Broadway in 1936, Irwin Shaw’s “Bury the Dead” opens at a military burial. As the priest arrives to say prayers for the dead, a groan is heard from the newly dug graves. Slowly the dead soldiers rise up, pleading not to be buried and asking to rejoin the living. Word of their insurrection spreads quickly to the living soldiers and the military brass, who use a variety of techniques to convince the dead soldiers to get back into their graves. Both bold and wickedly funny, “Bury the Dead” is a thought-provoking work that is as relevant today as when it was written.
rwcole @ 42
I have been wondering if Petraeus will have a report (written by the White House but bearing his name) to report on before Congress or if there will be yet another bait and switch in all this.
leslie at 46 — Those folks are in an air defense battery, replacing the folks who are being deployed elsewhere. It’s a routine troop siwtchout for the air defense folks that cover the DC airspace. Nothing new — nothing unusual from what I can tell. They have to rotate in fresh folks so the folks who have been on duty can either (a) do training or (b) get stationed overseas for a while.
Hugh, Could be- but most written reports get scant attention anyway- what will matter is what he will say answering questions.
Reporters don’t seem fond of reading- Americans are not fond of reading either- we prefer DRAMA.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 53
Thanks, Christy.
I have many friends who will be at the Sept 15 demo and I became concerned.
About this 32 day Boot Camp:
Exempt from regulation
Last year, Love Demonstrated Ministries reported private and government contributions totaling $314,673 to operate the boot camp, with nearly 89 percent of the costs, $278,549, going for salaries.
Associate pastors at the Faith Outreach Center couldn’t be reached for comment Friday.
Patrick Crimmins, a spokesman for the Texas Department of Family and Protective Services, said it “appeared that this operation is probably exempt from our regulation.”
He said for a camp to be licensed, it needed to operate longer than 11 weeks.
The camp in Nueces County only lasts 32 days.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 44
Gore said it close to a year ago, this focus on the 2008 election (hopefully not another selection) a year and a half before the election is just a way to take the peoples minds off of the real issues at hand.
We are waiting patiently for a November announcement. Run Al Run!
I meant to say
“and necessary for a functioning democracy”
but I guess the immorality of it is foremost on my mind this morning.
Steve-AR @ 48
Listening to her I wonder how I ever thought she was an informed critic of government. In recent years, her name seems increasingly descriptive of how she arrives at her views.
Leslie, this is the first I’ve seen of troops being deployed to DC. Weird.
Sigh.
If they stay in Iraq it’s Draft time. This will get Americans attention. Even Senator Warner admitted the troops are exhausted!
The “mostly” priviliged on college campuses might even wake up to what is actually taking place in Iraq.
OT: David Schuster needs his own show, damnit.
rwcole @ 53
Except that Bush has been saying for months that he was waiting on the “Petraeus” report. It would be good to have a written document/record that Congress can refer to when questioning Petraeus. Otherwise Petraeus will wriggle out of one side of this and Bush out the other.
Loo Hoo — It’s the nation’s capitol. Even before the airliner rammed itself into the Pentagon on 9/11, we have had an air battery and more protecting DC. There are a LOT of reasons to do so in the national interest. It’s not anything new.
Wordsmith@work @64 ~
I’ve been sending this suggestion to MSNBC nearly weekly. (along with the thought that Tweety could be replaced.)
Hugh- Hmm- good point- the main written report is coming from the White House- which is what congress ordered- don’t know if Herr General will write one too. Guess he LIKES to write.
If I were Petraeus I’d write a report just to cover my ass- otherwise he’s at the mercy of the merciless White House to say what he thinks.
Thanks, Christy. Aluminum foil.
leslie @ 66
I was watching Wolf on CNN interview some general. W asked the question, general repsonds; no followup on to next question. Flip to MSNBC and it’s David Schuster. He’s tallking to some woman (a CPA) who’s discussing gas prices (I think). She’d say something, Schuster would f-up. Even her “closing remarks” got a comment from Schuster that was relevant.
At the least MSNBC could take that despicable Tucker off the air!
Iran says it has one ton smart bombs—shall we have a contest to see which bombs are smartest? Spelling Bee- or what?
LHP,
I’m there as a summer person.. but on a boat moored there. Been there for 21 yrs.
“And now- in this corner- fresh from a graduate seminar from Harvard University- the George W. Bush sm”art bomb—and NOW- in the other corner- wearing a scholar’s turban- give it up for the Persian Smart Bomb..”
BobbyG @ 30
That is only a correct principle if the “non governmental entity” is doing the snooping of it’s own accord. If it is acting at the behest of the government, as an agent in fact or law for the government, or other cooperation with the government, the 4th Amendment applies just fine.
Tucker’s act was stale the first day he did it…his insipid attempts to point out inconsistencies in the positions of his guests and the whole world are tedious. Dump him NOW!
Perhaps this will awaken the sleeping giant:
The median price of American homes is expected to fall this year for the first time since federal housing agencies began keeping statistics in 1950.
In recent years, many families used their homes as a kind of piggy bank, borrowing against their equity and increasing their spending more rapidly than their income was rising.
Now, however, that financial cushion is disappearing for many families.
A whole generation of americans has been raised to believe that if ya want it- ya can just put in on the card and nothin bad will ever happen–they’re about to get an object lesson in fiscal sanity.
Kathleen says: August 26th, 2007 at 10:06 am:
Re Warner on TV: He said “almost” a co-equal branch of government? He said that? I heard a clip on the radio early this morning where Warner implied that Congress had no say in having any say in directing strategic goals of war, or big picture decisions about troops. That was the Commander in Chief’s job, Warner said. Did he say that during the same interview?
That is really bad. I think Congress considered itself a co-equal branch in basic decisions regarding starting, directing and ending war and peace since 1798, and they should have known what the deal was.
I am more sympathetic to McNerney trying to gin up a veto proof majority than most here. I mean, heck, it’s summer recess, so why not make a few calls and test the waters on that and establish some bipartisan brownie points for the Broders (not that it will do any good with them, but sometimes gestures are good karma I suppose).
But as soon as the Petraeus Show has its run, it is time to get down to business. Even the these supposed moderate Republicans are consistently saying very wrong, very untruthful, very twisted and dangerous things. Need to directly attack them on all their dangerous wrongness. Need to ask public directly whether they still want a democracy and constitutional government, and right now, GOP will not give them that guarantee. Need to say that very directly. Let Broder and pundits and DLC types pee themselves all they want. It is the right thing to do.
Need to attack them head on. Good crop of new progressives in Congress next session is probably best way to go.
Which reminds me, I gotta go give some money to that woman running against the guy who compared Democrats to serial killers. See one of last night’s posts.
Gloria Borger was great on Fox this morning, she actually had opinions and insights so that Bill Kristol and Byron York had something to run up against. You know challenges
78
wesgpc says
Darcy Burner?
I would say there is a 90% chance of a false flag event to start a war with Iran.
Iraq was the dress rehearsal. The bombing shit worked OK, but the people didn’t have flowers ans chocolates.
Iran has more flowers than Iraq. Hope springs eternal.
Just a quickie but is is probably true that violence is down from this winter’s peak, but there is a really simple explanation: It’s summer and summer in Iraq is HOT!
looseheadprop @ 16
I went to Friends Meetings in the mid- to late-60s with an elderly lady, a Mrs. Baumann, who refused to pay a part of her taxes. She let them take it from her bank, but she wouldn’t send it to them. She said the nice young FBI boys liked the cookies she always made.
The whole Zelicow (PNAC minion) story is just bizarre. Remember when Pelosi was flogged by Republicans for visiting Syria… Yet we have Zelcow taking money and promoting the overthrow of an elected Maliki who Bush supports and what do we hear? *crickets*
And that oh so liberal media doing the same thing by giving Zelicow so much attention (and Alawi).. What do we hear from Republicans? *crickets*
Many have been saying that it’s impossible for the Clusterfuckers to attack Iran-
1) They don’t know where to bomb- the stuff is spread out all over the country and much of it is deep underground.
2) They can’t POSSIBLY field an army for a ground attack..
It would be a “Bomb for effect” mission that would accomplish nothing except for pissing off the entire middle east.
National Guard troops in Puerto Rico cheer when the governor calls for withdrawal from Iraq.
(AP) A call by Puerto Rico’s governor for a U.S. withdrawal from Iraq earned a standing ovation from a conference of more than 4,000 National Guardsmen.
Gov. Anibal Acevedo Vila said Saturday that the U.S. administration has “no new strategy and no signs of success” and that prolonging the war would needlessly put guardsmen in harm’s way.
Coverage Of The British Pull-Out in Basra
by DemFromCT
Sun Aug 26, 2007 at 09:03:06 AM PDT
The British press has had stories about this, but the American press has been relatively quiet about this story. From the AP via IHT:
link
Basra may be the final straw that breaks the US Military. After the Brits leave, the Mahdi Army will be well entrenched. I don’t think the Shiites are going to give the South to the US military without a fight. If the US wants it, it means Combat Air and a lot of civilian casualties. I don’t think the Shiites in Baghdad will be passive to the slaughter of their brothers in the South.
Warners comments are not up at MTP from this morning yet. Here is a clip of Russert talking about Warners stance. That it is “BIG”
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20423695/
wes
There will be no forced withdrawal from Iraq without substantial gooper support—at one point I thought that would happen- now I don’t think so.
Goopers still fear bucking the president and getting a primary challenger more than gettin the shit kicked out of em in the general election for war mongering.
wesgpc @ 78
The only real way that I can see to force the issue in Iraq is in the Defense Appropriations bill. It passed the House and is still awaiting action in the Senate (and there may be need of a conference report). However, the fiscal year begins October 1. If something is to be done it will have to be done quickly. If this bill is passed without mandating withdrawal, there will be no meaningful bill as far as I can see on withdrawal before January 2009.
rwcole @ 85
This group of “cakewalk” crazies should not be underestimated for hubris and insanity. It does not matter that there is no proof to verify their endless claims about Iran. Remember Iraq?
It’s “Come to Jesus” time for the goopers. This is probably their last chance to go on record against the war. Next stop- November 08. If Bush’s war continues to be the mess that it is now- which seems likely- goopers will get hung out to dry in 08- and they know it. Decisions, decisions.
Why do we have co equal branches? Seriously. It seems like the lion share of the people’s work should be done by congress and certainly declaring a war.
The commander in chief title nonsense is stupid. The DOD should be answerable and accountable to the congress not the POTUS. Bush and the executive have no experience in running a war… in fact most executives don’t. They didn’t listen to Powell, who was a general with some war experience.
We need to get the CIC meme killed and have a more sensible relationship between the WAR department and the congress. And they take too much of our resources anyway. It’s just pure waste.
Does anyone remember the audit about a mission trillion just before 9.11? What happened to that? Anyone?
I’m all for checks and balances… but “co -equal”? Na
89 rwcole says August 26th, 2007 at 10:35 am:
If GOP ‘moderate’ congressment haven’t woken up by time the September show over (I’d give them 1 minute) then need to go after them very aggressively. If they are wrong, and cowardly, and politically insane, then no excuse not to.
I hope Dems do that. Get Truman’s ghost on the phone. Remember what his advisors told him during 1948 election? They said he had better be very careful and moderate, lest he scare the better sort of people.
Some things never change.
Margot @ 83
I have friends who have not been paying war taxes for years ever since Vietnam, I could certainly put you in touch if you want to contact them.
The IRS engages in selective enforcement and there are many people who are not paying taxes and who are not in jail.
BTW I am suing the IRS pro se and the lawyers are not terribly swift but they are sneaky. I’ll accept free legal advice.
Kathleen @ 88
Listening to Warner this morning, I got the impression he is firing a shot across the bow at Bush. Show “something” to back up that the troops will not be there indefinitely. If Bush doesn’t show a “token”, Warner will completely jump ship. It is as if a little light went on in his head that’s telling him maybe Bush/Cheney are not Republicans, they are Neocons. He’s calling Bush’s bluff. He’s going to make this war Bush’s war, the neocon’s war, and pull the Republican party out from under the neocons.
What Bush will do, is replace Maliki with Allawi, and the military will remove the troops during 2008 “honorably” by saying that Allawi is in control of the Iraqi troops. Allawi is shia, and he will deal with the Sadr movement. Allawi is enough of an ally with Bush, that the oil Bush/Cheney want, will be guaranteed. It is all about the oil. Just my humble 2 cents.
The most important thing for us to do is to ensure that the Repubs completely lose control of the Presidency and assure that there is a large majority in the Senate to negate any of their shenanigans. We have to stay on top of the voter fraud.
In 1798, in one of the countries early cold wars (with France, I think) the Congress first directed Executive on what was and was not authorized to do in US naval actions. Something to do with when and where US naval vessels (or privateers) could or not could not attack or intercept other vessels.
I would think that Congress understood how things were supposed to work. I also think the Executive did not like Congress idea and Congress won.
And I think the US did survive.
I think LS makes sense, but is I’ll Allow Ya really Shia?
SanderO — Can’t give legal advice beyond this: arguing that one person should be allowed to break the law because someone else has gotten away with breaking the law is a sure way to piss off a judge. Just FYI. *g* Beyond that, though, I’ve never practiced in NY and don’t do tax law, so I’m not much help on that front.
I don’t like the idea that the executive branch has morphed in the CEO of the nation. Rubbish
Hugh @ 90
No Congressional action will cause the withdrawal from Iraq. Time lines and “shutting off the money” are wishful thinking. Bush will “order the money to be spent”; I think it was Condi Rice who said awhile back, that Bush would ignore any funding cuts.
I wouldn’t make a pitch that someone broke the law and walked so why not me. All I am saying is that we are not throwing too many people in jail for not paying their taxes.
The IRS negotiates all the time last I checked.
Maliki is, of course, Shia also.
btw, fresh thread for everyone…
SanderO @ 100
Allawi, from Wiki: “A prominent Iraqi political activist who lived in exile for almost 30 years, the politically secular Shia Muslim …”
@ 70
Sorry, I’ve been distracted. My daughter called from Boston.
I agree about taking Tucker off. The only good thing about Tucker is that he’s on when I’m not home and cannot see him.
There is nothing redeeming about Tucker.
Christy, LHP, et. al. – I started law school last Thursday – yikes! Do you have any brief advice for someone who is continuing to work full time while studying contracts, torts, and writing/research ‘part-time’??
I know it’s OT, but I thought since there are some attorneys in the house, now would be a good time to ask :-)
Liza Minnelli and Joel Grey rocked in that scene. One of the best!
1,578 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND..
Citizen Hardin Smith and the Firepup Patriots:
Let’s make it clear, as far as priorities are concerned, we have reached the point of the consolidation of corporate fascism in the United States, so the priorities are to use the federal treasury to transfer as much wealth as possible in the shortest period of time to the wealthy families while usin the largess to create private forces to serve corporate interests. For instance, recruit, train and equip private militia to be garrisoned at home to provide security and social control in the absence of National Guard or conventional forces which have been bankrupted and broken.
We see the consolidation of corporatist political control of the Democratic Party thru Mrs. Clinton and the elected leadership in Congress…if Mrs. Clinton wins the nomination, even if she loses the general election, the forces of reform of the Democratic Party behind Howard Dean are toast.
The priority of the fascist power structure is to institutionalize corporate control of both political parties to enable on-goin war against those who have the misfortune to reside on top of the last reserves of oil. At some point, there will be no alternative for the rest of the world but to create an allied resistance centered around China to oppose the axis of evil runnin between New York,London and the only power in the middle east with no oil.
Our only hope is to derail the corporate takeover of the democratic party by hittin the streets and forcin the Democrats to oppose any extension of the occupation and forcin the Congress to rescind the Iraq war authorization. And, of course, to stop Mrs. Clinton from gainin the nomination.
KEEP THE FAITH AND REMEMBER: YOU DON’T NEGOTIATE WITH FASCISTS!!
wini @ 109
Drinking a lot of alcohol helped me.
LS @ 98
My take away from Warner is more whinging without action. Russert brought up the fact that Warner had said that there was only 2-3 months before real decisions about Iraq had to be made last year. Warner defended himself by saying that Bush’s surge had been the kind of real decision he had been looking for.
I am really sick of Senators like Warner who supposedly have all of this Serious Person cred on defense matters who talk big, cave early, and do nothing. The litany of failure that is Iraq has been going on for 4 1/2 years and Warner is still promising/threatening action in lieu of actually doing anything.
Don’t use civil disobedience as a political weapon unless you are willing to pay the maximum penalty- that’s what it’s all about- ya have to be willing to go to jail.
I have no idea what Warner’s tryin to do- if he wanted to get a message to the simian he could just call him up!
rwcole@115~
Or simply talk to him when they’re “driving around” like say, to Arlington or a church.
I don’t believe Warner is about to do anything different from earlier on, except to maybe give another 2-3 months….and then another
because as Warner said on the teevee, “No one wants to get the troops home more than the pResident and his wife.”
1,578 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND..
Citizen rwcole and the Firepup Patriots:
“Don’t use civil disobedience as a political weapon unless you are willing to pay the maximum penalty…”
That’s right, brother cole, and the immediate goal must be worth the sacrifice…in this case the immediate goal is the end of the occupation. I should also say that the immediate goal is the IMMEDIATE end to the occupation even if it means political chaos like 1968. Take a look at the political reality right now and the economic collapse that is right around the corner whether we elect a Democrat and end the occupation or not…the calculation to be willing to pay the maximum penalty must be based on the realization that there is no alternative and there are no miracles.
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION, GOD WANTS US TO MAKE OUR OWN MIRACLES!!
bmaz @ 112
Well, not to excess while studying; only afterwards….. Yoga, meditation, religion, alcohol, recreational drugs, all of the above; whatever, you will need a crutch or your mind explodes from the asinine way that law school imparts it’s education. find a couple of third year students that appear well grounded (neither the aggressive top of their class, nor dregs at the bottom), befriend them and seek their wisdom as you settle into the grind. talk to your professors, both in and out of the classroom, study them and research them a little. They all have a point of view, specialized view or position, thought process etc. that is separate from the actual curriculum. If you know, it and understand it, it will be easier for you to regurgitate the material back to them and give them what they want, in the frame they want to hear it in. This is a most important concept to pay attention to. Good luck.
Some more past musings from Phil Zelikow on our ME war plans — via John Mearsheimer & Stephen Walt research (their book on the Israel Lobby coming out in September)
So let’s see what we have here: a) A*P*C’s Levin (noting he’s up for re-election in 2008 – strongly relies on Pro-Israel $ for his campaign) and HRC (noting her neolib credentials and needing to keep her Pro-Israel voters and $ in NY and FL happy the CORPORATES for her campaign) shilling to take Maliki out. b) at the same time – we have Bibi coming back into power and (yet again) Allawi’s name is being passed around… Chalbi Baathist puppet the first time round and now Allawi the second time around?
Umm… what’s up?
In 2003:
Planning still going on in 2006:
Nah — the neocons and HRC’s neolibs can’t be that crazy?
bmaz @ 120
Thanks so much! I’m kind of overwhelmed right now with what the heck I am supposed to be doing (I think I’m taking WAY too extensive of notes on the readings, for example..), but hopefully, as everyone says, I will get the hang of it in a few weeks.
I will absolutely take your advice re: getting to know the professors.. the tricky part will be finding time due to the full time job thing. Thanks again, and I apologize for the late response :-)
The “new” Iraq is the “old” Afghanistan, and BushCo has turned the United States into the “old” Soviets, who back in the 1980s sent men and machines into Afghanistan to prop up a Soviet puppet government in Kabul.
And I’m certain the “old” Soviets had numerous “surges” in Afghanistan in an attempt to give their Kabul puppet government breathing space, countless “surges” spanning almost the entire decade of the 1980s, costing the “old” Soviet military forces thousands in casualties while stuck in the Afghani quagmire.
So, the Bush administration has gotten us stuck in a similar quagmire in Iraq, repeating the same mistakes the “old” Soviets made in Afghanistan in the 1980s. Will the outcome be similar?
The similarities between Afghanistan of the 1980s and the post-Saddam Hussein Iraq of today are striking. Warlords. Tribal enmity. Sectarian butchery. The increasing influence of sharia-spouting religious sects, with their murderous followers enforcing sharia, purging Iraq of any secular freedom. “Players” from outside Iraq financing and arming groups inside Iraq. Iraq today sounds an awful lot like Afghanistan twenty years ago, with the Bush mal-administration having taken the place of the “old” Soviet mal-administration, with Bush’s Iraq having replaced Afghanistan of twenty years ago as the quagmire to end all quagmires.
The question is, though, will Bush’s misadventure in Iraq shatter the United States just as the “old” Soviet Union’s misadventure in Aghanistan led to the break-up of the Soviet Union almost twenty years ago?
Elitist conservative warmongers, whether neo-con Republicans or neo-con Communists, always seem to be good at destroying things, as they embark on one imperialistic conquest after another, don’t they?
The United States of America will be lucky to survive the eight years of the Bush administration, the most lying and thieving administration in American history.
GSD @ 36
Also, if the Florida primary debacle is about helping Hillary because she isn’t doing so well in the early primary states (Iowa caucuses, New Hampshire and S. Carolina), then it might mean she needs a little help from Floridians.
Also, if she is involved with Brazile’s effort to move up Florida, it would look like she’s using the same tactic as Republicans in California who are desperately seeking delegates by changing the rules in mid-game.
Hugh @ 59
I “hear” Cokie and Poppy Bush get along well.
Has anyone got an update on Sibel Edmonds?
http://www.antiwar.com/deliso/?articleid=6934