Bonus scene from Brave New Films’ Iraq For Sale. This juxtaposition between what our troops are being paid and what contractors are raking in seemed awfully appropriate this morning.
Solai shared a link to a Rolling Stone article on war profiteering this morning that has my blood absolutely boiling. To wit:
…A few months later, in March 2004, your company magically wins a contract from the Coalition Provisional Authority in Iraq to design and build the Baghdad Police College, a facility that’s supposed to house and train at least 4,000 police recruits. But two years and $72 million later, you deliver not a functioning police academy but one of the great engineering clusterfucks of all time, a practically useless pile of rubble so badly constructed that its walls and ceilings are literally caked in shit and piss, a result of subpar plumbing in the upper floors.
You’ve done such a terrible job, in fact, that when auditors from the Special Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction visit the college in the summer of 2006, their report sounds like something out of one of the Saw movies: “We witnessed a light fixture so full of diluted urine and feces that it would not operate,” they write, adding that “the urine was so pervasive that it had permanently stained the ceiling tiles” and that “during our visit, a substance dripped from the ceiling onto an assessment team member’s shirt.” The final report helpfully includes a photo of a sloppy brown splotch on the outstretched arm of the unlucky auditor.
When Congress gets wind of the fiasco, a few members on the House Oversight Committee demand a hearing. To placate them, your company decides to send you to the Hill — after all, you’re a former Air Force major general who used to oversee this kind of contracting operation for the government. So you take your twenty-minute ride in from the suburbs, sit down before the learned gentlemen of the committee and promptly get asked by an irritatingly eager Maryland congressman named Chris Van Hollen how you managed to spend $72 million on a pile of shit.
You blink. Fuck if you know. “I have some conjecture, but that’s all it would be” is your deadpan answer.
The room twitters in amazement. It’s hard not to applaud the balls of a man who walks into Congress short $72 million in taxpayer money and offers to guess where it all might have gone.
Next thing you know, the congressman is asking you about your company’s compensation. Touchy subject — you’ve got a “cost-plus” contract, which means you’re guaranteed a base-line profit of three percent of your total costs on the deal. The more you spend, the more you make — and you certainly spent a hell of a lot. But before this milk-faced congressman can even think about suggesting that you give these millions back, you’ve got to cut him off. “So you won’t voluntarily look at this,” Van Hollen is mumbling, “and say, given what has happened in this project . . . “
“No, sir, I will not,” you snap.
“. . . ‘We will return the profits.’ . . .”
“No, sir, I will not,” you repeat.
Your testimony over, you wait out the rest of the hearing, go home, take a bath in one of your four bathrooms, jump into bed with the little woman. . . . A year later, Iraq is still in flames, and your president’s administration is safely focused on reclaiming $485 million in aid money from a bunch of toothless black survivors of Hurricane Katrina. But the house you bought for $775K is now assessed at $929,974, and you’re sure as hell not giving it back to anyone.
“Yeah, I don’t know what I expected him to say,” Van Hollen says now about the way Robbins responded to being asked to give the money back. “It just shows the contempt they have for us, for the taxpayer, for everything.”
Jeebus. These people have no ethics, no morality, no commitment to doing quality work that keeps our nation’s soldiers safer — it’s all about greed and what’s in it for me. And that is all. Remember when there might be just a little public shame in being exposed as a greedy fraud who cared not one whit for the fact that he was a failure?
The next Republican who starts wagging their finger in the “you are either with this President or you aren’t patriotic” tapdance is going to be scraping themselves off the wall when I get through tearing them a new one. Read the whole damned thing. And then consider this little factoid: there are more contractors working in Iraq than there are soldiers. That’s an awfully big bottom line, isn’t it?
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hello
1 or 2?
That darned spinning wheel is a sure sign.
petwrecker @ 1
Hello to you too. Just us?
Republican corporate ethics at work.
I’ve always said I wouldn’t mind paying taxes if I only thought the money was actually put to the use it was supposed to be. ARRRRGGGGGHHHHH. This is a thousands times worse…
and g’morning all…my g’morning was epu’d :-)
and then i’ll tie him in such a knot he’ll be looking up his left pant leg for the rest of his life.
ReneND @ 4
NO. I know when my latest comment takes forever to post that I am about to go into EPU-land and that a new post is up and messing me up. I come late to a lot of discussions, so I am used to this. :-( So now I have to go back, see if my comment posted and then come back and read the new post. Phew! Such work FDL makes me do!
Naomi Klein covered this in 2004. Important must-read story.
http://www.harpers.org/archive/2004/09/0080197
Also, not related to Iraq, but on the topic of bankrupting Americans, I saw Maxed Out this weekend. Please watch it if you haven’t already. I am gratified to add that it seems to be quite popular if the Netflix list of 50 most watched DVDs is to be believed.
I can think of a properly constructed building Robbins should stay in…Abu Ghraib! *grumble*
The republicans who are silent now will awake and scream bloody murder if Hil is elected and continues the same policies.
Gnome de Plume @ 8
Heh. This is why I have two tabs to firedoglake open at a time. One to a particular thread, one to “home” — and I switch when the new post comes in, which leaves any post being epu’d alone sufficiently long enough that it does post while I’m busy on the new one. Love them tabs.
lightly at 9 — There have been so many articles on the war profiteering fiascos that I’ve lost count. But laying it straight out with the testimony juxtaposed against the dripping shit from the light fixture was as perfect a descriptor as I have ever seen. Gah — now I’m pissed off all over again…
I cannot believe our government is even ALLOWED to make “cost plus” contracts. I MEAN WHAT THE BLOODY HELL ARE THEY THINKING TO SHOVEL OUT MONEY LIKE THAT??!!
Okay. Pet my dog. Get the blood pressure down. Pet, pet, pet…ARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH…
Oh, and, it is worth a reminder that this crap has been going on for years — with the Democrats having to invent an outside policy group in order to push any oversight on this at all between Byron Dorgan and Henry Waxman and assorted others while the GOP controlled Congress. Because the GOP refused to schedule any oversight hearings…arrrrrrrrgh.
Ethics and values, my ass…
I think a tax payer’s revolt is in order. Withhold 50% of your tax due and deposit in an escrow account.
We can’t rely on the reps to do the right thing. We need to move into direct action, strikes and so forth.
There’s now so much wrong with the government it’s hard to know where to start fixing. Every single part of it is broke.
there are more contractors working in Iraq than there are soldiers.
Sounds like the making of a fine “residual force”. Seriously.
So why don’t we bring home the soldiers who signed up to *defend* our country and Constitution, and if the well-paid contractors want to say – more power to ‘em. At lest they’d be earning those $120K/Yr paychecks. Fuck ‘em.
petwrecker @ 7
Thank you for the entertaining visual :-).
SanderO at 16 – That’s a crime, and they will throw your butt in jail for it. Just so you know. (takes off prosecutor’s hat now…sometime, the lawyer has to come out.)
Your post, Christy — just unbelievable.
No, wait. It is believable.
Oh, well. That’s old news.
What’s happening right now? Like, any news about Nicole or Britney?
Christy, just in case you missed it, here’s a Forbes article that explains why nothing has been done about all the graft and corruption in Iraq: http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap…..52736.html
It’s not going to help your blood pressure. I’ll be mailing various Congresscritters copies and demanding they get off their privileged tushies and DO something, not just blather on and on in more pointless political theater. We’ve had more than enough of that.
Maybe Tweety, Pumpkinhead and Lou Dobbs will jump all over this.
Jonathan @ 20
I say, what about Lindsey?
Peanutbutter – I’ve done that before. Sometimes I can just “feel” a new thread coming. I’ve gotten a few zeds that way, but this morning I am trying to take it easy. I am trying not to let Iraq, Bush, Rethugs, et al, spoil my day. I’m on my second cuppa. No one else in the house is awake. I have a dog snoring on the couch behind me.
This is about the redistribution of wealth, American wealth into a small clique at the top. A funnel pointed upward that sucks from the average and middle class folks and lines the pockets of those who already have the most of the most.
I tell ya, I am not much of a bible guy but I am looking forward to the day when the first shall be last and the last shall be first.
-GSD
reparations & iraq war commission at den hague, i dream of them being bopped so hard they wear their belts as bandanas
Riesz Fischer @ 22
*crickets*
Ya know, as much as they blather on about fiscal responsibility, saving money, and so on and so on…
On MTP, Sen.
FoghornWarner put on display his advancing senility. He sort of kind of disagrees with the President maybe but a man of strong convictions has courageously made the decision to do nothing about it.Then there was a roundtable with Richard Engel (NBC), Michael Gordon (NYT), Thomas Ricks (WaPo). Gordon had the kneepads out as usual defending Petraeus, progress, and all things Iraq war. Ricks was a little bit more reality based but still I think supporting a long term presence in Iraq. Engel was hyping the line that withdrawal would be a betrayal of the troops, that they would be really angry about it, and whose take home message is that anyone suggesting withdrawal (Dems for example) should beware.
As usual, no Iraq war critic or proponent of withdrawal was included in this “fair and balanced” discussion.
All this can be seen as more of the media and White House’s PR campaign to keep the “surge” going. Progress is being made, any problems are Maliki’s fault, if we withdraw all the progress will be lost, bad things will happen if we leave, whoever votes for withdrawal is betraying the troops and responsible for losing Iraq. Rinse. Repeat.
Nothing but contempt of Congress and the taxpayer starts at the top with George Bush. The last thread had people discussing the faith-base giveaways. This is the pure greed giveway and is part of the reason Iraq is so completely f*ucked-up now.
GSD @ 25
This sounds right. So, what is the very first thing we can do to try to put a stop to this?
Cost-plus is a provider’s dream. As an architect, I never get this kind of agreement from my clients. I do work with building contractors on that basis quite often, but that is usually for historic work, big renovations and other projects that involve a lot of unknowns. TRUST is the most important component in a cost-plus contract in my world, that and a totally transparent billing and paying system on everyone’s part. Oh wait. That IS called oversight, isn’t it?
I’m not a Hillary fan.
So one part of me rejoices at the thought of her having to deal with the fucking mess that’s Iraq.
The other part asks, where can I go just to get away from the downfall of the U.S.?
sangemon (from downstairs) -
“When I listen to Lee Casey the words “effete intellectual snob” comes to mind.”
DING!
Dog! Greenwald took no prisoners. Please, sir, may I have more?
He was so far past impressive you couldn’t get there from here.
Now to hear what Webb has to say.
I highly recommend Iraq for Sale. I hosted a screening of it at my house. We had a great discussion about it afterwards.
Brave New Films is great tool for putting power in the hands of the people. I was very impressed with the film and the promotional package that came along with the DVD.
Once the screening is over, you can consider donating the DVD to your local library to extend the message to a larger audience.
What, everyone’s off listening to the talking heads? :-) Ah well, I got painting and such calling to me while it’s still cool in the morning. Catch up with y’all later!
why aren’t these people being charged with fraud?
(OT-for those of you who missed montag’s cheesecake and wanted the recipe, i posted it at the end of the last thread)
We have come full circle to the point of being taxed without receiving representation.
It is that simple.
We are taxed and our “representatives” have lost the power to represent us.
All under the name of Executive Power.
And while we’re on the subject — why is there complete media silence on the biggest war profiteer of them all, Richard Bruce Cheney? His Hallburton stock options were worthless when he ran for VP because as CEO he’d stupidly bought a company with huge asbestos liability (familiar-sounding incompetence, isn’t it?). In office, Cheney starts a war in Iraq where his former company reaps hundreds of billions in no-bid contracts, skyrocketing the value of Cheney’s stock options and increasing his personal fortune by millions. Why aren’t people more outraged by this, especially the families of dead and injured soldiers??????
Millineryman at 34 — Donating it to the local library is a great idea. :)
The moral rot and decay in our society starts at the top…. and look no further than the 2 criminals setting the tone. Honor and integrity back to the wh and the nation…my arse.
Our country has lost its moral compass. Although I have mixed emotions about the gentlemen mentioned at the end of the article who was severely wounded in Iraq while working for a private contractor who has essentially abandoned him, his story is a perfect example of everything that is effed up in our society.
And lastly, the traditional media’s and mostly television/cable broadcast’s deafening silence on this type of behavior/activity is huge part of the problem.
Boston1775 @ 37
Right. On.
dalloway @ 38
I think plenty are…but the media (surprise surprise) isn’t reporting on it…
But this is another of the reasons I support impeaching Cheney first. Although I think we should start with Gonzales.
Morning, far-left Fem-Bloggers!
I’ve worked in mechanical contracting (that’s HVAC/Plumbing/Piping) for over 20 years. If a contractor pulled that kind of shoddy work, they would A)Have inspectors all over their asses to correct it, and B)Go out of business when word got out how incompetent they were.
HTF are they getting away with it?
peanutbutter @ 18
howdy, thanks peanutbutter
and then we’ll bang him down so hard he’ll have to unzip his fly to say hello…
lightly @ 9
Netflix has that one available for instant online viewing. I love that they dropped it to $15.99 a month now and 18 online viewing hours.
dmac @ 36
compound fraud the kind dante devoted the harshest regions of the inferno to…
Goopers want to see every penny spent by the federal govt. outsourced. That would eliminate federal workers- who vote dem- and give gooper congress critters and unending supply of slop as “contractors” bid to keep their contractors…
Corruption de jour
PeteCO @ 43
Because they throw the whistleblowers in the slammer. Seriously, go read Forbes… http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap…..52736.html
PB, you are petting the dog gently there, yes?
More and more companies are getting addicted to the federal teat as goopers sell off every aspect of federal spending. Now they’ve got churches suckin on the teat as well…Is it any wonder that the small govt. goopers are now bein packed up and headed to a display at the Smithsonian?
Hi Betsy. Ready for the kiddos tomorrow?
PeteCO @ 43
It used to be:
Government work. Close enough is good enough.
Today:
Government work. Making a profit, good enough.
Harry Truman made his career in the Senate investigating these traitors and their greed.
Who will step forward today or does anyone give a damn besides us progressives?
Came hame from church to this. What kind of HYPOCRACY is this. Now I gotta go to church again to get the stink of this corruption off my soul.
ReneND,
Well, I am afraid very little. Oversight only works when there are teeth to put some bite into the results of oversight.
As we have seen thus far, the Congress that was put in place to challenge an out of control executive branch have the teeth of a 90 candy shot worker.
This is how empires end and the potential end is looking uglier and uglier by the day.
-GSD
Goopers have created a Frankenstein monster- proving that the least efficient most corrupt organization in the universe is not the govt- and not the private sector- but an unholy combination of the two..
This is the kind of thing that can and should become a cornerstone for any party who wants to grab it and run with it.
That should be a “candy SHOP worker”.
-GSD
Being somewhat of a historian, I keep hoping for the cycle to repeat: That we are on the cusp of a new set of reforms like the ones implemented in the first part of the 20th Century in reaction to all the Robber Baron craziness.
rwcole @ 50
Office of Faith Based Initiatives should be re-titled Ministry of Ministry.
-GSD
Gnome de Plume @ 51
Mostly ready to send mine off for someone else to worry about all day.
First days of school are registration chaos and my busiest days the whole year. Worst part is getting there at 7:30 am instead of 10 or 11.
Churches who used to feed the poor and minister to the sick are now eligible to get PAID by the GOVT for doin what they do- and they are free to make up fuck headed ideas and apply for money for them too.
Men of the cloth are becoming men of the Mercedes as they learn how ta suck.
CHS @ 39_ Well I do believe I got that idea from you in previous discussions.
On a side note, I got the last blueberry muffin at the store! I’m sure not as tasty as the ones you baked this morning, however now I can move forward with my day.
The Rolling Stone article is difficult to read-my eyes are bulging with outrage.
Where is the outrage in the rest of the country?
I just don’t get it. And why isn’t there someting equivalent to the Truman Commission from WWII looking systematically at this? Criminal fraud against the US Treasury used to get people’s attention-now, not so much.
The traditional media just won’t pick up on this and the obvious criminality behind it.
Worse yet, they arrest and torture whistleblowers according to this report:
dmac @ 36
Because DOJ is part of the problem now. They recast teh “Thompson Memo” that dealt with how to punish corporations for fraud w/o destrying the corporation itself (and throwing regular folks out of work). The Thompson memo involved strict monitorships by outside IG’s and severe penalites for individuals at the top if the coporation did not effect meaningful reform.
After Comey left DOJ they issues a new coprorate prosecution guidleine memo that reallly watered it down.
Also the cabinet secrataries refuse to do oversight. When ktrina happened the Interantional Association of Independant Private Secter Inspector’s Generals (former agents and prosecutors that come in on a contract basis to do these monitorships) contacted Dept of Homeland Security and could not even get an appointment to discuss how to set up an auditing system.
Same thing with Iraq. One of the quid pro quos for reupping the Specail IG for Iran reonstruction was theat he could not send outside auditors over their. He can only use his own staff which is too small to do the job.
I have a buddy who was in Army CID (Criminal Investigatiosn Division). He was a contract fraud specialist. He is currently in deep doo doo with Dpet of Army because he refused to go back after his first tour because he was not allowed off the base and was expected to sign off that goods and sevices had actually been delivered when he had never actually seen them.
He wouldn’t sign off on soemthing he he did know about and is now suspended for being “insubordinate”.
DOJ is not supporting these kinds of investigations nor do US Attorney’s meet there quotas by bringing these kinds of cases, so there is no incentive for them to devote limited resources to it. Espeacailly since they have so much pressure to meet their quoatas for gun cases.
OT, but poor HoJo and McCain. It seems that Dean Broder is annointing Hagel and Bloomberg as the preferred “Independent” ticket for ‘08.
Jonathan @ 52
The company I work for does a fair amount of work for the government,local, state & federal, and their standards exceed those required in the commercial sector, in some respects (construction/manufacturing requirements).
Which make this more incredible. I guess brown people don’t count.
it should be way passed time to marinate these goopyporkers…
I remember during the weeks after 911, my sister-in-law telling me how tired my FDNY brother was. He would come home absolutely exhausted after his shifts, eat and pass out for 8 hours. He would open his eyes in the morning, jump out of bed, throw on his clothes and race back into the city. He wasn’t alone. Every emergency worker did the same thing.
Compare this to how military contractors are supporting the troops with their shoddy work. What a disgrace. I have been grinding my teeth for the hour now.
Same with Katrina. Volunteers driving into NOLA are holed up in motels awaiting their orders or told to go home and then the high-paid mercenaries show up and shoot dogs.
Didn’t we used to execute war profiteers?
rwcole @ 60
Many of the churches getting money from faith based initiatives are not the same ones who were ministering to the poor from the outset.
SanderO @ 16
Maybe a RICO suit against the entire Republican party. It does seem to be a criminal enterprise.
wigwam @ 63
That’s the Forbes article I have been recommending — thanks wigwam. Everyone really needs to read it. Torture is not just for terrorists anymore. Who would have ever guessed (snark)?
rwcole @ 60
I propose we start the church of Firedoglake. Maybe we could get our share to “feed” the poor computer servers. :)
dakine01 @ 65
My how, how bi-partisan a Republican turned Independant and a far right wing Republican.
Broderella has all of the bases covered.
-GSD
Gnome de Plume @ 57
The difference as I see it has to do with ideas or the lack thereof.
In the dawn of the 20th century, there were a bunch of new ideas in physics (quantumm mechanics, relativity) and politics (e.g., progressive taxation, female suffrage) that acted like a tidal wave, displacing the old, powering forward into and through the 20th century.
Now, we are in an age empty of powerful new ideas. A dark age, I believe.
Margot @ 68
Sounds like you’re still stuck in the pre-9/11 way of thinking.
– Ari Fleisher
I must be very lucky because I have no server problems with FDL. Pages refresh fast and load fast. Is that because I have DSL?
NYT running a related editorial about the unholy relationship between the federal govt. and lenders- the lenders make bad decisions and then get bailed out.
Lending institutions keep the profit and shift the risk to the govt.
Neat trick!!
“Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power.”
Benito Mussolini
Any questions?
looseheadprop @ 64
LHP, not only are they not supporting such investigations, they are actively quashing them and everyone who attempts to actually do their jobs in such an effort.
PeteCO @ 43
We have spent about $180 billion since the 1980s on an anti- ballistic missile system that doesn’t work.
The Marine’s Osprey has cost $50 billion. It has been described as taking off like a helicopter, flying like a plane, and landing like a bomb. Incredibly these planes that don’t fly are being deployed to Iraq.
Of course, it is not just the Pentagon that does this. One of my favorites, (borrowing from my scandals list) is:
So you see it is business as usual for a contractor to completely f*ck up and still get the follow up contract to start over or clean up the mess they created.
$72 million is in the great Washington money machine chump change.
dakine01 @ 65
The serious-person’s ticket.
rwcole @ 78
But if you happen to be a regular citizen rather than a lending institution ….. the bankruptcy “u be screwed” law instead.
wigwam @ 71
Unfortunately, a successful Civil RICO is like a a great white whale in this country. It exists in statute but not in practice. The judges seems to hate it and rarely let Civil RICO claims get to a jury. They are usually dismissed before that.
WHich sucks.
These are the kinds of stories that will get america REALLY pissed- interesting that no candidates are using em.
Riesz Fischer @ 76
I’m still a (somewhat)sane, rational person, if that’s the definition.
Two sobering articles on Iraq, that should be read by every Congresscritter:
Posted on Sun, Aug. 26, 2007
Iraq body count running at double pace By STEVEN R. HURST
Associated Press Writer
BAGHDAD — This year’s U.S. troop buildup has succeeded in bringing violence in Baghdad down from peak levels, but the death toll from sectarian attacks around the country is running nearly double the pace from a year ago.
Some of the recent bloodshed appears the result of militant fighters drifting into parts of northern Iraq, where they have fled after U.S.-led offensives. Baghdad, however, still accounts for slightly more than half of all war-related killings – the same percentage as a year ago, according to figures compiled by The Associated Press.
The tallies and trends offer a sobering snapshot after an additional 30,000 U.S. troops began campaigns in February to regain control of the Baghdad area. It also highlights one of the major themes expected in next month’s Iraq progress report to Congress: some military headway, but extremist factions are far from broken.
In street-level terms, it means life for average Iraqis appears to be even more perilous and unpredictable.
http://www.star-telegram.com/190/story/213828.html
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Group: 1.14M Iraqis have been displaced By DAVID RISING, Associated Press Writer
Sun Aug 26, 6:30 AM ET
BAGHDAD – The number of Iraqis who have fled their homes under threat of sectarian violence has more than doubled since the start of the year, despite the increase in American troops that began in February, a humanitarian organization said.
The number of displaced Iraqis shot upward from 447,337 on Jan. 1 to 1.14 million on July 31, the Iraqi Red Crescent Organization said Saturday.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200…..VPg_hvaA8F
hey Christy- do you think that for one second they give a shit wht you think? You know better than that.
Your blood can boil and you can start to throw things but it ain’t gonna mean a damn.
What might just mean something would be for more than a Million folks showing up in DC !! That might. And if it included students from all over the country then it just might mean something. It is time to march Christy. It is TIME!
petwrecker @ 46
Susan Collins was head of the oversight committee with her fraud chief-in-arms, Lieberman.
Instead of MSNBC doing their Friday night Prison Programming, wouldn’t it be great if they took on this subject head first?
On Friday night I noticed that they have these shows about different prisons and the prisoners. Who watched these shows? The prisoners? If you think of how many prisoners we have in this country, they must do pretty good. Why else would they feel that this is a good way to use air time.
Can you imagine if the Dems had 1 or 2 hours of air time on a Friday night?
phred @ 72
After I posted, I noticed that you had already linked to it. IIRC, it was a front page story of yesterday’s LA Times. And damn shocking.
rwcole @ 78
And, once the house is in foreclosure, they get to sell it again.
looseheadprop @ 64
LHP, not only are they not supporting these investigations, they are actively quashing them.
Goopers tried to win control of govt. by demonizing govt.
Does anyone have the guts to demonize the conjunction of the private and the public sectors?
Just heard an NPR story about student loans. Outsourcing em has created higher rates for kids and INCREASED the federal costs by five times (if I remember the number correctly).
Turns out that it’s MUCH cheaper to loan to the kids directly rather than involving a middleman..
rwcole @ 84
Criticizing the government means you hate the troops and are soft on terra.
Since we have discussed in th past the reactions of some Dems to their tours to Iraq here is one Congresswoman who hasn’t partaken of the kool-aid: Still For withdrawing
NBC is owned by GE- they make jet engines among other things- they are way in the tank on federal contracts….don’t hold yer breath for NBC to blow the whistle on this one.
wigwam @ 90
I’m glad you posted the excerpt. I saw it at C&L this morning and was stunned. This is a very troubling development for our Constitutional rights as citizens. I don’t think anyone should be subject to such treatment, but the fact that the powers that be think they can treat citizens this way is very very worrying.
BAGHDAD — Iraq’s beleaguered prime minister on Sunday lashed out at Democrats who have called for his ouster, saying Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton and Carl Levin need to “come to their senses.”
A change in the guard from Maliki to some other American stooge will hardly solve the march to wider war in the Middle East. As to “come to their senses”? There’s more than a grain of truth to that. Most of the leadership in my party… and HRC and Obama do need to come to their senses. That is, if these DC yo-yo yokels have any common sense. I have no confidence in either of these two pols on Mideast policy. I am insensed that HRC and Obama are being rammed down my throat.
Oh great. Thanks Jonathan for the Dark Ages reminder. I think I’d better head to the out of doors, as muggy and miserable as it is, and commune with my plants and animals, rather than think more about Iraq, DOJ, Bushco and the Church (which ruled the European Dark ages). Ha! I just remembered: The European Dark Ages were Islam’s Golden Age (if you don’t count the warring) of scientific discovery and high literature. There. I feel better. See you guys later.
GSD @ 73
Bloomberg was a Dem before becoming a Republic so that he wouldn’t have to face a crowded Dem primary for Mayor.
Tex Betsy @ 82
On the up side of a speculative bubble, it’s all free markets, invisible hand, genius of capitalism, and government should stay out. On the down side, markets which took unwarranted and unjustified risks in return for high profits demand and get massive government aid. Central banks around the world pumped something like $800 billion in short term credit into the markets. The Fed played with rates. The saps who took out these awful mortgages get nada.
Rove must be knitting the blanket pardon right now.
wesgpc @ 86
It’s called whack a mole.
Goopers have created a myth that the federal govt. is incredibly inefficient and that the private sector can do things at much less cost.
Turns out that it was a big fuckin lie- medicare, for example, is a model of efficiency. The problems come through contracts with the private sector and no oversight.
Interesting bits in that article on the whistleblowers:
–the whistleblower lawsuits were strated by some nosey do-gooder named Abraham Lincoln, during the Civil War
(I guess that was the old Republican party. And Sheeeyeeesh, you see, if you let these liberal nosey doo-gooders interfere with gettin’ stuff done, look what happens. I mean, how could the North, hampered with all these trial lawyers, ever have expected to win the Civil War? Losers!
–US government has not joined one of the actions, not one
–a lawyer is quoted saying that US govt not joining the case, makes in harder to win in court. Any of the lawyers here know how true that is?
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From Forbes article:
One way to blow the whistle is to file a “qui tam” lawsuit (taken from the Latin phrase “he who sues for the king, as well as for himself”) under the federal False Claims Act.
Signed by Abraham Lincoln in response to military contractors selling defective products to the Union Army, the act allows private citizens to sue on the government’s behalf.
The government has the option to sign on, with all plaintiffs receiving a percentage of monetary damages, which are tripled in these suits.
It can be a straightforward and effective way to recoup federal funds lost to fraud. In the past, the Justice Department has joined several such cases and won. They included instances of Medicare and Medicaid overbilling, and padded invoices from domestic contractors.
But the government has not joined a single quit tam suit alleging Iraq reconstruction abuse, estimated in the tens of millions. At least a dozen have been filed since 2004.
“It taints these cases,” said attorney Alan Grayson, who filed the Custer Battles suit and several others like it. “If the government won’t sign on, then it can’t be a very good case – that’s the effect it has on judges.”
The Justice Department declined comment.
Bloomburg may be OK. He’s so filthy rich that he might not try to pad his pocketbook while in office- and he seems sane.
Ok, This thread has me feeling hopeless. Time to go do some gardening. Later.
rwcole @ 105
Didn’t he fund raise for Lieberman?
Hugh
Don’t know.
rwcole @ 103
Bloomberg can only be a spoiler. He’ll be elected president when Hell freezes over.
Bloomberg lieberman
rwcole @ 96
But wait!
I thought they made good things for life.
Here is an example of how Bush uses the Federal government: Screwing over NOLA
rwcole @ 111
Bite your tongue. Quickly.
rwcole @ 105
And, this administration has ruled that cost data from private federal contractors such as Halliburton comprise “proprietary information” and, thus, must be kept private.
Neat-o. All nicely wrapped up, with a bow on top. Well, Dim Sun was appointed to office largely to provide eye candy cover for the looting of the federal till. Mission Accomplished with respect to that.
phred @ 93
It wouldn’t surprise me o learn that.
You know when I was a prosecutor, that’s what I did. Gov’t contract fraud involves both public corruption AND fraud against the government.
That used to be a big ticket, high profile gig. Mostly cause in those days in NYC contract fruad casses = mafia cases.
However, these days those cases don’t involve prosecuting some guy with a cauliflower ear wearing a sharkskin suit. Tey would involve prosecuting guys who write campaign checks to both parties. It would possibly involve prosecuting Darth Cheney. It would possibly involve prosecuting a bunch of cabinet secretaries.
Do you see AGAG signing up for that?
I’d vote for Clinton way before voting for Bloomburg.
Jonathan @ 74
When a President is able to declare that Religion offers better social services than those educated to administer those services, it is indeed a Dark Age descending.
The fact that there is no oversight of these services is further proof that we have turned away from the Enlightenment of science and the free exchange of ideas. We don’t need evidence of efficacy; faith-based service needs no proof.
We are left with those who are Biblically trained to address social problems, mental health issues, crime, the imprisoned, educational curricula, the addicted and more.
Billions are dealt to Bush’s Base while millions lack medically based health care.
Richmond @ 89
two bastiches in a pod
Mayor Bloomberg’s decision to give a rousing endorsement to Senator Lieberman’s vow to run for election as an independent is stirring speculation on the possibility of the mayor’s own independent campaign for the presidency in 2008.
Mr. Bloomberg, who is now publicly in the midst of weighing his own bid for the highest office in the land, threw his support behind Mr. Lieberman’s third-party candidacy yesterday, saying the country needs “nonpartisan elected officials who think doing the right thing for the public is more important than supporting some party.”
In terms of Middle East policy, why don’t we just get it over with. Amend the Constitution and elect Bibi prez.
From Raw Story: interesting
Bloomberg/Perot! In ‘08.
oops, sorry for the double posts. I shouldn’t try to use the computer this early in the morning. And I just noticed parts of the usual comment display missing from my screen (no ‘preview’ or ’spell check’ anymore. Some problem with connection I guess.
looseheadprop @ 116
Nope. But I don’t see Congress doing a damn thing about it either. So where do we go from here?
BTW- BobbyG’s latest rant to the paper.
Maybe this shit is why I can’t seem to find another job here after being laid off, LOL!
wesgpc @ 124
quit browser and re-start it.
Howdy folks. Just a reminder – should your comment happen to get caught in moderation, once it’s freed (which usually happens in moments) you will need to do a full page refresh to reveal it, not just a comments refresh.
Mr. Lieberman is hardly non-partisan when it comes to Middle East policy. Lieberman: Mr. chickenhawk draft dodger himself.
Tex Betsy @ 49
*grin* absolutely…always…looks up at me with these adoring bambi eyes…
129 Tex Betsy says August 26th, 2007 at 8:50 am:
quit browser and re-start it.
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Tried that. No good. Some problem with connection on my end. Loading very slow. Don’t worry. I threw in the big two cents I wanted to this morning.
Hugh @ 109
The prblem I have with Bloomberg is he approaches runing the gov’t as if it where a private business.
Therefore he has gutted the NYC Dept of Investigations(it is 1/4 of the size it was when I was there) because he has apparently concluded that a certain level of corruption and loss can be tolerated b/c if is more expensive and disruptive to root out and punish the corruption.
Gov’t has a different standard, however, and you cannot do a cost/benefit analysis on government corruption–it is too short sited because it creates a culture within the government that allowes ethical detioration.
When things get bad enough that you can no longer tolerate it, it will cost much more to fix (corruption is like mildew, you have to scrub the bathroom tiles with Tiex every time you see mildew start because if you let the mildew get out of control it will attack the backer board and you will end up having to gut and retile).
I truly believe he has no idea how to deal with gov’t corruption or how to create a climate that fosters ethical behavior.
I think Bloomie is a really nice guy and sane, but surprisingly niave about how government works.
PeteCO @ 95
Well then, wouldn’t saying that the government should be drowned in a bathtub qualify?
Sorry, mostly driving by here, back to fix LEAKY SPRINKLERS…gah…
Riesz Fischer @ 111
Bloomie said he would only get in if Rudy was the nominee. It is his intent to be a spoiler.
Riesz Fischer @ 22
Chris Wallace sure won’t…He’s too busy lecturing Bill Moyers on journalism 101, the putz.
As for the story…Republican money grab, plain and simple.
They pioneered this streamlined type of ‘out in plain sight’ con back in the S & L scandal days, and keep using it for the very simple reason that it works, and it works even better with the full complicity of the bureaucracy that they have enjoyed to date.
Odierno just on CNN talking about the drop in IED attacks and the like as evidence of surge success but then cites evidence of meddling by Iran has been notable in the last 30 to 60 days in the form of IED materials. Sounded like he was trying to have it both ways, but even a little follow-up by Blitzer could have helped clarify it. Of course there was no follow-up.
Nothing’s going to happen to Lieberman. He’s too powerful.
If Halliburton and cronies didn’t make money in wartime, would we even have wars?
rwcole @ 121
Since then Bloomie left the GOP and has reregistered to vote as a “blank”–the name in NY for someone who is registered to vote but not a member of any politcal party.
BobbyG @ 127
another facet of how the “the quiet american commander-guy” sees himself as a crusader…ala vietnam/iraq
peanutbutter @ 134
You are clearly a hysterical liberal. You should leave these matters to Serious People.
http://sflatow1.googlepages.co…..nLaden.pdf
Muzzy @ 137
Onre reason for the recent relative drop in US troop casualties is that they ordered commanders to not undertake risky ground offensive initiatives — “surge” notwithstanding — during the runup to the BetrayUs report, to make it appear as though the surge was causing the decline.
AZ Matt @ 96
We won the initial war in the sense that both of our first two objectives were achieved:
— We rid Iraq of WMDs — actually Clinton did that.
— We toppled Saddam.
We have been defeated in the follow-on war in the sense that none of our ever-shifting list of objectives is realistically attainable. Now we are involved in a war of vanity. We are fighting only to postpone the humiliation of admitting defeat, just like the final seven years of the Vietnam war. And, as in the case of Vietnam, we can postpone that humiliation for as long as we are willing to pay the cost in American blood and treasure.
Muzzy @ 135
As I have said many, many times, Odierno is an idiot.
phred @ 126
I know there are some Hill staffers doing quite a bit of info gathering realting to a possible AGAG impeachment. One lives in hope
ccmask @ 139
We wouldn’t have this war.
So are we getting closer to admitting that this war was really all about looting the treasury, enriching the corporate interests that fund chimpy and his criminal cabal, and thereby controlling the fiscal agenda for years to come?
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Seems to me I can remember a time when such talk was flamed or banned outright on the self-proclaimed “advertise liberally” circle of links…
wesgpc @ 132
And thanks for those two cents!
Oklahoma kiddo @ 118
I’m not voting for any freakin’ mayor.
What would it do to Guliani if he’s the GOP nominee, and Bloomburg runs as an independent? I don’t think it helps him.
It’s all a mess. We’re (in this house) sick of it. And we’re going for a swim.
LHP… where on wrong island to you home? I do pass through wrong on the way to the boat… Are there any other lakers out there?
looseheadprop @ 133
This is probable why Broder likes Bloomburg — the pundit class sees no real value in pursuing charges of corruption or abuse of power. Hence, their bafflement at the whole Libby episode.
Iraq Body Count Running at Double Pacefrom
t r u t h o u t
The Associated Press reports that Iraq is suffering about double the number of war-related deaths throughout the country compared with last year, with the average daily toll this year at 62 compared to 33 in 2006, and the number of displaced Iraqis has more than doubled since the start of the year.
ccmask @ 139
It would be nice to test the theory.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 19
That’s what I thought too, Christy. Until someone here (sorry, wish I could remember who!) posted this film earlier this week.
I wonder if Chatterjee (mentioned in the RS article wrt Baghdad Bonanza) is Anirvan
Chatterjee, the founder and CEO of BookFinder.com?
In the 2008 election we better elect a Democratic President along with a Democratically controlled House and Senate so that we can undo at least some of the severe damage that has been done to our nation and the world during the past quarter century of Republican dominance of our political and economic policies.
Just remember. The business of Ameica, is business.
Fresh thread up and running for everyone…
Tex Betsy @ 154
Then the Surge is clearly working!
Hugh @ 145
Exactly. Why can’t reporters ask the obvious questions:
* Working at what?
* Winning what?
* Where’s the payoff for American taxpayers?
* What’s here to win? (Note: we can buy oil cheaper than stealing it.)
Unless there’s a positive payoff, there are no winners. We’re playing a losing game. And there’s no such thing as winning in losing game.
BobbyG @ 143
While overall attacks have steadily increased over the years, there is a seasonal decline in August which also needs to be factored in.
looseheadprop @ 146
I’ll keep hoping then, but I am worried about the speculation Mimikatz mentioned over at TNH about replacing Gonzo with Chertoff. That would derail any AGAG impeachment and any real ability to get the docs we need to consider impeaching Bush and Cheney. I’ll keep hoping, but at the moment fretting has the upper hand to hoping.
wangdangdoodle at 156 — Yeah, I don’t care what someone says in a film. It is a crime. And they will throw your butt in jail for it. Ask LHP how eager the IRS is to listen to your political objections…you either pay up or they file charges. Truly.
They don’t throw you in jail.
LHP — Care to weigh in on how the IRS treats people who fail to pay their taxes for politial objection purposes and then fail to pay up when it is demanded of them? I’m fairly certain you had to deal with that asn an AUSA in the office — if not on the tax prosecutorial team, I know you guys had to deal with it a lot in NY…
SanderO @ 166
IIRC, I’ve read of cases where they’ve done exactly that.
ccmask @ 157
I just found out that Anirvan Chatterjee is NOT the author of the upcoming book.
snip
Pratap Chattergee is the Managing Editor/Program Director at CorpWatch and the author of Iraq Inc.: A Profitable Occupation. The essay at the link is excerpted from his upcoming book, Baghdad Bonanza: Iraq’s Failed Reconstruction
cleter @ 150
Bloomie would be a spoiler for Rudy. Bloomie is much more popular in NYC than Rudy and if Bloomie got in the race you would likely see a lot of the FDNY, Dpet of Corrections and other scandals become national stories.
Of course, as I say Bloomies got hiw own troubles. NYC Dpet of Investigation s WARNED the Lower Manhattan Developement Corproation that the contractor they had hired to dismantle the Deutsche Bank building was sham front for bad guys and LMDC ignored them.
The sham corp completely fucked up the the the contract to demolish the building and 6 years later it was still standing, still ful of asbestos, still vacnat and the site was not secure and people were building campfires in it.
So, WHOOOPS, the damn thing catches fire on an upper floor (looking eerily like the nearby Twin towers) and the FDNY communications sytems still isn’t fixed and
TWO FDNY HEROES NEEDLESSLY LOST THEIR LIVES!!!
Pat Collins when he was in the USAO NDIL (Fitz’s shop) had a press conference once involing the “hired truck scandal” which began as an investigation of peole getting driver’s licenses illegaly.
it seeme d like such small potatoes corruption. Too small for a US Attorney to bother with. Well, a truck driver with a false driver’s license who did not know what he was doing and who was not qualified to handle such a heavy truck wound up killing a family driving ona highway in (IIRC Maryland).
Small corruptions that seems like a cost of doing busness that a private sector guy might be willing to ignore, can lead to deadly consequences.
That was the Pat Collin’s message that day (it’s the day I became a devoted fan of his).
The same principle was at work inthe Deautche Bank tragedy. I doubt we will see any consequnces for the sham corp there either.
NYC DOI does not have the resources to do it, and I haven’t seen a press conference announcing a major indictment out of USAO SDNY in I don’t know how long
Christy Hardin Smith @ 165
Oh, I don’t disagree that they’ll toss your butt in the slammer! It just seems that they should be able to point to the law or statute when they do it.
;)
Christy Hardin Smith @ 167
For a history of tax resistance see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H…..resistance
SanderO @ 152
I live on the North SHore, near the water. I walk to the beacj every morning to vist with the egrets and the swans. Once, in the winter, I saw some seals which amazed me since I am in Nassau which is pretty far in for them to come.
I believe there are some Pups out here. And of course we have TREx’s girlfriend Pammy from Atlas Shrugs, but she’s on the South Shore.
LHP: The same company also dropped some kind of equipment right thru the FDNY firehouse roof some time ago, IIRC.
SanderO @ 166
Yeah, they do. I’ve done it myself.
Riesz Fischer @ 22
And maybe that pony that I’ve been wishing for since 1957 will show up under my Christmas tree.
rwcole @ 85
This pisses me off so much I had to delete what I was going to post. Let’s just say it had to do with torches and pitchforks.
Deacon Blues @ 178
Smart move.
What’s the name of this company whose contractual performance should be labeled “in default”? They certainly didn’t deliver what they contracted to deliver. How can they get away with this?
Tex Betsy @ 5
Democratic party advertisement, clarifying differences between Rs and Ds. Maybe put it right up there with showing Tobacco company execs denying the addictiveness of nicotine and some other amazing quotes by Republicans saying Dems are like ’serial killers’ and the like.
GSD @ 58
Since when does the Preznit have the power to create a new program and fund it without the House authorizing anything? Isn’t this likely to be an impeachable offense?